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Grille · 02-01-2005, 22:43

I forgot to turn off auto-deal-renegotiation the turn before, thus Hammurabi knocked on the door to renew the peace deal. The deal included a mere 4gpt from my side (I originally assumed the deal should silently go on with auto-negotiation off in case I give the gpt; dunno if this assumption was correct in case I had turned off auto-re-neg?).
Since upgrading has not been done so far, I didnt take the risk to deny the peace deal. Now I have a new peace treaty with Hammurabi in place... d*oh.
(Additionally, I renewed the wine deal with him, but scrapped the horse deal.)
Anyways, now that I punked myself [crazyeyes] (and other gpt-give-away deals ran out), I opened a new tech trading round in turn 162. It appeared that Korea charged the cheapest prices for all techs in question, so I buy invention/gunpowder/chemistry for 43gpt/44gpt/38gpt&horses from them. Except for chemistry (not known by Hittites), these techs were spread all over the world; I exchanged newly gained chemistry for printing press with Hitties (btw, they would have exchanged education for chem).

Beam was quite surprised how it was possible to catch up with 4 techs in one turn, but IMO the deals were not unusual given that almost all techs were known to all civs.

In 163 I noticed that Germans have gems to offer for 24gpt; I still ran 10% lux tax and turning it down resulted in a better surplus than 24gpt, so I bought it; I had to re-adjust some specialists and now I run 100% tax with 50gpt surplus left (4 taxmen are also present). My FP will be ready in Marseilles in 4 turns (delayed by one turn due to clown-hiring - no market there).

Gunpowder says there's no saltpetre within my borders, but there is a source a stone throw away in Babylonian area (city of Nineveh). So it may be possible to first steal the saltpetre, then grade up to cavs and go for Babylon. OTOH question remains if the delayed TGL raid is still worth it, meaning that Beam might finallly decide to attack his neighbour, pumping up his empire in a GA while I sit and wait not trashing my rep (this game *might* very well see a diplo victory).
Anyways, a great TGL abuse with 5(!) scientific civs -possibly all in industrial age at that time- is very tempting. Hence I did not exchange chemistry for education.
Intel suggests that Beam now builds military. Note that he has ROPs with every AI civ!

02-01-2005, 22:43	#28
Grille Join Date: May 2003 Location: in a swamp. Posts: 901	I forgot to turn off auto-deal-renegotiation the turn before, thus Hammurabi knocked on the door to renew the peace deal. The deal included a mere 4gpt from my side (I originally assumed the deal should silently go on with auto-negotiation off in case I give the gpt; dunno if this assumption was correct in case I had turned off auto-re-neg?). Since upgrading has not been done so far, I didnt take the risk to deny the peace deal. Now I have a new peace treaty with Hammurabi in place... doh. (Additionally, I renewed the wine deal with him, but scrapped the horse deal.) Anyways, now that I punked myself [crazyeyes] (and other gpt-give-away deals ran out), I opened a new tech trading round in turn 162. It appeared that Korea charged the cheapest prices for all techs in question, so I buy invention/gunpowder/chemistry for 43gpt/44gpt/38gpt&horses from them. Except for chemistry (not known by Hittites), these techs were spread all over the world; I exchanged newly gained chemistry for printing press with Hitties (btw, they would have exchanged education for chem). Beam was quite surprised how it was possible to catch up with 4 techs in one turn, but IMO the deals were not unusual given that almost all techs were known to all civs. In 163 I noticed that Germans have gems to offer for 24gpt; I still ran 10% lux tax and turning it down resulted in a better surplus than 24gpt, so I bought it; I had to re-adjust some specialists and now I run 100% tax with 50gpt surplus left (4 taxmen are also present). My FP will be ready in Marseilles in 4 turns (delayed by one turn due to clown-hiring - no market there). Gunpowder says there's no saltpetre within my borders, but there is a source a stone throw away in Babylonian area (city of Nineveh). So it may be possible to first steal the saltpetre, then grade up to cavs and go for Babylon. OTOH question remains if the delayed TGL raid is still worth it, meaning that Beam might finallly decide to attack his neighbour, pumping up his empire in a GA while I sit and wait not trashing my rep (this game might* very well see a diplo victory). Anyways, a great TGL abuse with 5(!) scientific civs -possibly all in industrial age at that time- is very tempting. Hence I did not exchange chemistry for education. Intel suggests that Beam now builds military. Note that he has ROPs with every AI civ!