[Shabbaman]

Sometime after the first english excommunication war and the second french conquest of Burgundy the English occupied Holland. So I made it my goal to liberate Holland. This was actually pretty tough, somehow the English didn't intend to lose these provinces. Somehow the dutch won't make a particular grateful country: I noticed yesterday that I annexed Holland and Liege during the third French excommunication war (or maybe the second, these excommunications are starting to blur into a continuous war), because the infamy cost of annexing these small states aren't that much higher than simply vassalizing them. All in all I end up with an increasingly poor infamy score... but declaring war on France shouldn't go unpunished.