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Grille 29-01-2005 23:32

And a cap can indeed flip (by propaganda;-))
 
I once saw a shot of a capital flip at Poly. I was very sceptic ans so were most folks who also thought it was just faked. But it probably was for real.
According to Oysteins propaganda-formula, a capital can flip. I gave it a try:

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/up...lip_da_cap.jpg
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Beam 30-01-2005 00:03

Bugseeker! Please post the biq, I do believe you, just like to see how it can happen. How much culture is in both cities btw?

Grille 30-01-2005 00:15

No prob. It sure is from a mod.
The save:
Download Attachment: [img]icon_paperclip.gif[/img] flip_cap.SAV
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Just shift-e and initiate propaganda. This is more convenient, since I made maybe 100 attempts.[eek]

And here's the biq. IIRC there's tweaks as addiditonal starting units, (M)GLs for rushing wonders (the GL-bug helps here), techs and gold. Fire up as multiplayer.
Download Attachment: [img]icon_paperclip.gif[/img] nomadmp.biq
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Rik Meleet 30-01-2005 00:15

[blink]

[eek]

[mouth]

<s>Yes, please post the save / biq.</s>

<s>Edit: Thanks</s>

Edit 2: I get a 404 - not found msg for your link

Grille 30-01-2005 00:16

Erm. Zipping works?

Grille 30-01-2005 00:20

trial:

Download Attachment: [img]icon_paperclip.gif[/img] nomadmp.zip
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Download Attachment: [img]icon_paperclip.gif[/img] flip_cap.zip
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edit:
ok, this should work :)

Rik Meleet 30-01-2005 01:13

If I load the nomad-mod my Conquests crashes; :(

Grille 30-01-2005 02:07

[hmm]
Can you load the biq into the editor then?
(C3C 1.22)

If the save works, you could load that from C3C main menue.

Or just PM your e-mail, I send over both files unzipped.

edit245: just rechecked the start from the biq with these settings: PBEM/load scen/close all slots except #1, #2 (both human, think that's important), turn timer off (should not matter anyways).
The map is ultra-ultra-tiny (20x20 or so), maybe that's an issue?

But the save should be more convenient, since you need not to wait for the RNG.

anarres 30-01-2005 04:21

Sorry, but this has been known about for a long time. ;)

It's only impossible to culture flip a capital.

Grille 30-01-2005 16:15

Oh, it sure is a propaganda flip.
Sorry, didn't want to confuse it with a culture flip, should have stated that more clear.[blush]

I originally used the biq for a UN-test, i.e. if a nomadic civ could be a UN candidate. That's not possible, although it can sometimes (?) put a vote. ('sometimes' is prolly related to some MP UN bug). While I were at it, I gave the propaganda thingie a try. IIRC usual discussions go like 'a cap can never ever flip' (of course that's true for c/f), but here's a sav showing a successfull (propaganda-) flip.:)
Should happen rarely in a game anyways, although it could help getting rid of a civ restricted to a one tile island in case marines/zerks are not around (or to avoid a MPP trigger).
Noticed a strange thing: when starting from the save, I cannot rebuff the rebels (?).


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