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Aggie 23-06-2010 11:48

Wages for oldies will increase. So that's a reason they would be less interesting. Also you can't train an oldie, while training other players remains interesting until 29 Y.O. In the long run current 30 Y.O.'s become less and less appealing compared to the many strong multi-skilled players HT will get.

BCLG100 23-06-2010 22:52

I do think that it makes any YA essentially pointless as what is the point in waiting that long to pop a player at excellent if you can get it there faster in the senior squad (price wise)

Shabbaman 06-09-2010 10:49

So, does anyone have some valuable insight to share yet? I'm not too sure if I should change anything yet, but I'm coming to the point where I should buy another IM. Or not. Still training wingers btw.

socralynnek 06-09-2010 12:07

Training times are faster. Don't know exact numbers, but personally I think tehre's not much to change so far. I think it is even worth more if you someone who has only 1 skill to train in the 2nd skill.

My specialist numbers:

Assistant trainers: 9
Psycho, Physio & PR: 6 of each
Therefore I have always space for 3 docs wihtout needing to fire someone else.

But I don't know whether this is really a good strategy.

yndy 06-09-2010 17:02

At low levels training times are visibly faster for younger and older players. I've never missed a pop at step trading and I usually buy players that are one salary step before popping to achieve better prices at purchase.

I will consider training all my trainees to primary and secondary as well, but other than that, no much change.

Shabbaman 06-09-2010 19:27

So it might be worthwhile to train older IM's as wingers and play 4-4-2 or something?

Aggie 20-10-2010 11:40

Looking at the options for next season. Training general did give me a lot, but now I need to choose a training type. I will probably choose keeper. This will be the option that is the least dramatic for my cash-position and the strength of the team. Any other training type requires a huge investment OR a dramatic decrease of the team-strength.

socralynnek 20-10-2010 12:17

Passing or set pieces should be doable without a big investment. OK, they are much more efficient with investments, but you can start with your uld players, in my opinion.
Besides that, Keepers shouldn't be too bad either. Buy a defender with high set pieces and train him in the goal and a few seasons later you have the best keeper in the world. Or kind of...

Shabbaman 20-10-2010 14:11

Well, you could consider training wingers. I'm not sure how much the age penalty is since the change (please tell me!), but you could even train your current players on these positions. The wing is where most teams are weak, so a strong wing attack can be valuable. Investment for secondary trainees are virtually non-existant, you can train even the worst crap to make huge profits. Look for passable to good wing with the quick specialty, and go no higher than inadequate PM.

Aggie 20-10-2010 14:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by socralynnek (Post 129612)
Buy a defender with high set pieces and train him in the goal and a few seasons later you have the best keeper in the world. Or kind of...

That is a good one. Thanks!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shabbaman (Post 129615)
Investment for secondary trainees are virtually non-existant, you can train even the worst crap to make huge profits. Look for passable to good wing with the quick specialty, and go no higher than inadequate PM.

True. I was thinking about winger training, but I want at least 3 strong defenders and 3 strong PM's on a training spot (with a cup run in mind). The other two spots may be for the young crappy players. I have 8 M to spend on the trainees (and on top of that the money I recieve from the 6 oldies I will replace with younger guys). Don't know if that is a feasible option. But you got me thinking Shabba. Thanks.

edit: well, my talk about the defender spot for winger-training is nonsense. Here wingers get only half the training, so all spots should be filled with strong defenders imvho.

edit2: considering both my cash position and my short term ambitions it might be best to go for older trainees (28 YO) and aim to train them for two seasons (should I NOT choose to train keeper). Remains to be seen what the profit will be after training two seasons, but I guess this also goes for any other training choice. The market will be flooded with multi-skilled players.


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