Kingreno vs Killer ***SPOILER***

[Kingreno]

I play a special game against killer who had plenty of time left in his schedule.[crazyeye]

The specs can be found in the mapmaking forum.

the start:

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[Plux]

I think our German friend somehow discovered a way to put 48 hours in one day. Where does he find the time [???].

\edit: BTW, good luck on this one, Kingreno [goodjob]

[Kingreno]

The petciv called Ottomans is very close, as agreed. I decide to settle towards them and get into a war soon. I have a 4-turn-setlerfac in bombay so I build barracks in Delhi.
Trading with the Ottomans netted me BW and WC. I do not want Masonry yet since it would bring the price down. Germany and Killer will have to research it at a high cost!
I discovered writing myself.[cool]
the map:


http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Kingreno/200311161265_1870BC.JPG
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the worker is on a game on grass, south of bombay is a cow![goodjob]

[Kingreno]

We're on fire! We have had two powersessions and are now nearing 90 turns! In the 1000BC area I captured the Ottoman capital Istanbul. On the followup Edirne was captured and two other towns were destroyed. I got all Osmans techs in the peace treaty, as can be seen in the screeny.[estwing]



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and the map. Notice Bismarck is outscoring killer!!


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[Kingreno]

two screenshots of turn 112, 310bc:


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and



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strategy will follow, gotto work now[crazyeye]

[Skyfish]

Hope you plan to wipe out those Turks before soon !

Great progress, this game is in the bag :D

[Kingreno]

quote:Hope you plan to wipe out those Turks before soon !

No Skyfish. The idea of the Turks is to have them as a pet scientific civ. I will make sure that killer will not get in contact with them. This will be achieved by giving them some backwater city between my cores surrounded by my cities and troops. I will profit from their free techs.[coool]

On strategy. I know killer is behind in several ways as can be seen in the demographics. These, I know, do not mean all that much but supported by the overall score, the fact he took Berlin many years after I took Istanbul and some looselipped MSN-chatter:D, makes me think I am leading.
Chances are that one of us will create a leader on our pet. Chances on this are small however. I will have to make plans on building a FP by hand since we agreed on no Palace switching...
This in turn means getting a GA, WLTKD in a ideal FP location soon, since having too many cities will make it all that more difficult to build it by hand due to corruption...

My plan is therefore to snatch the religious wonders of the game...ALL of them...and start the collossus soon. This will make sure Killer won't get his GA before Navigation and with me having a GA before that I should reach that sooner, making a landing on his continent possible.
[fdevil]

[Skyfish]

Sounds good ...as long as HE does not get a GL ;)
A lot of your production will be tied up in building Wonders, while he will be building Infra, you could get behind because of that...

[Kingreno]

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[Skyfish]

Check one, two to go :D

[Kingreno]

Indeed. The pyramids brought the Indian Republic the first of many celebrations. The Oracle is due in 4 and planns for a Bronze statue are being made ready in Bengal.
On science we are happy to announce we have entered the next age. Our pet supplied us with Engineering which we traded for our Monarchy and Literature.
Immediately research was set on Feudalism with Monotheism to follow that. The pet, in the meanwhile has had a short uprising with 3 new cities found.
Needless to say that a pet that bites should be punished soon[estwing]


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[Kingreno]

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Kingreno/20031127123320_oracle.jpg
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[cool]

[Darkness]

Why the Oracle, Kingreno?
To trigger your GA? Because it's a pretty useless wonder otherwise...

[Kingreno]

As mentioned I want to deny killer easy access to his GA and am therefore attempting to snatch all religious wonders :)

Also, a cultural victory remains an option.[tongue]

[Darkness]

Ah, sorry, I should have read more carefully. [blush]

[Kingreno]

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As shown, The Art was completed in Madras. In the meantime, Bengal is only two turns away from the colossus which in turn will trigger our GA!
Funniest on this is that i beat Killer to SZA by ONE turn. Needless to say he is unhappy:D
But returning to our side of the world. We are Researching Astronomy due in 2. After that Music/Navigation. After that, we'll see.
On production it is easy. Caravels/war elephants in most cities. Wonders in the rest. I will have enough money after the GA for anything on the wishlists.
The Empire ONE turn (very likely) before the GA!


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Followed by the 420AD Demographics:


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Any comments are more then welcome![goodjob]

[ERIKK]

Has Killer defeated the Germs yet?

[anarres]

Did Killer lose his pre-build?

Anyway - good to see you are #1 in demographics before your GA! [groucho]

[Kingreno]

Both Erik and Germany had to switch their builds!!![cool]

As can be seen in the following screenie, :D



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The Great Library is nearly useless as I do not intend to give The Otto's any knowledge before Killer researches education himself. So it is "just" culture.
The Best part is that neither of them switched to the Hanging Gardens, a more usefull wonder as it at least gives some extra hapiness, witch makes me believe they do not have Monarchy yet.
I switched the Gardens in Delhi to a University due in 2 turns.
And as predicted:



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I entered my GA and galleys and elephants are due all over the place. The exeptions being the FP building city in New Delhi (in 14), the Sistine in Bangalore (in 22) and to be determined in a few turns the town that will build bachs.
I make 150+ gpt with all techs in 4 turns so I can rushbuy galleys in corrupted cities.
Once I find the other continent I will begin on opperation "Holy Cow". The details will follow soon[yeah]

[Lt. Killer M]

ahem, compared to my jungle kingdom is is pure heaven... now who made that map and called it balanced??????? [mad]

[Kingreno]

And so it began. For years rumours have spilled over our world. A ruthless race called the Spannish misused the male cows in arena's filled with the dumbest scum on earth. Our Holy Cows will soon come to the rescue! soon!

On turn 165 we discovered Navigation and two turns later we saw a light blue border. We did not make contact yet as we did not want Killer to know we had the ability to cross ocean.

The fact that it is sort of a one-on-one also means I will have no clue as to where is core is located. Operation "Holy Cow" therefore has no particular target but an overall mission: "Search and destroy any Spannish cities you may find!"[estwing]



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Above can be seen the invasionfleet 3 trurns away from landing. The fleet contains 17 Elephants and one Explorer.:D

After Making contact with Killer I notice Killer lacks Monotheism![???]
On MSN I tell him we have met and after a nice discussion about me having Navigation I also inform him of the Elephants.[:p]



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Needless to say that Killer capitulated!
In the end my lands were better, the pet friendlier and the Wonders more wonderful[cool]
I thank him for a great game and a fast game (171 turns in say 4 weeks), we had a lot of laughs and already agreed on a rematch!

[anarres]

Yea! Nice going there Kingreno. [coool]

[Lt. Killer M]

congrats, KR.....

I still suggest we play the same game again, just with exchanged starts..........[:p];)

[Plux]

good one KR! Killer just can't stand elephants, although in our game it didn't even come to those Dumbo's :)

[ProPain]

@killer: I'm to blame for the map Killer. I know your start position was slightly worse than Kingreno's but your island was slightly bigger. I had not expected that your pet would outexpand you on monarch level so I thought you would quickly build a worker army. I think germany started around flood plains with FL+wheat near, so I accounted that would become worker fac. Guess things worked out a bit different.

So if you guys have a rematch I would like a 2nd chance to build a map for you. Then we can judge my learning curve too!