View Full Version : Open thread: Aggie vs Killer PBEM
Who wants to set up a map for us?
We want a game with the following statistics:
-Emperor
-Continents, Killer and me start on different ones.
-Standard size
-Aggie: Ottomans
-Killer: Japan
The rest may be a surprise or random!
I'm also going to aks at CFC...
Killer, what's your MSN e-mail adres? Mine is ageling@xs4all.nl...
Melifluous offered to create the map (on patch 1.14). Thanks :)
EDIT: Meli sent me the map a few minutes ago and I am ready to play...
I updated the CFC site, nice starting position:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=866825#post866825
Lt. Killer M
24-03-2003, 01:16
got it, playing.....
aggie: I always use my GMX mail; my hotmail is geology_henry@hotmail.com (Trillian use only). I'll see what my start is in a few ;)
Lt. Killer M
24-03-2003, 20:48
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/AK01.jpg
what can I say...... :D
Lt. Killer M
26-03-2003, 17:37
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/AK03.jpg
sometimes, if you are too greedy...... I declared war on someone to make the scout NOT open a hut - and overlooked a warrior!
it came as it had to come:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/AK04.jpg
but I lucked out and only lost 1 HP.......
Lt. Killer M
26-03-2003, 19:13
sometimes, just sometimes, things work our very nicely indeed.........
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/AK051.jpg
sorry for the censoring
Lt. Killer M
26-03-2003, 19:26
there's some things I simply cannot resist.....
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/AK06.jpg
Well, my first 50 turns aren't this eventful. I have good news too though:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/my_start.JPG
EDIT: yes, I know... Why did I irrigate the silk tile? :(
Lt. Killer M
26-03-2003, 19:31
the idiotic Arabs attack across the river with an archer two turns later after I had fortified my warrior.
They lost him, doing 1 HP damage but promoting my Warrior :D
Appears that the barbarians al choose one to pick on. Guess who :(
Lt. Killer M
26-03-2003, 19:51
hehe, sold a tech for 110 Gold to Russia.......
Lt. Killer M
30-03-2003, 17:18
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/AK0711.jpg
I managed to grab the Horse and the Wines in the north - Russia is not really expanding.......
Lt. Killer M
30-03-2003, 18:54
someone is out for a piece of me... we'll see....
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/AK08.jpg
It's weird to see what Killer is having to do in this game. I am only:
- expanding
- fighting barbs
- playing catch up in technology
Lt. Killer M
02-04-2003, 06:57
gaarg! I keep clicking the *Spoiler* thread by mistake, then wonder where my posts ahve gone....
I am now at war with the Celts. They brought over ten units, mostly vet and elite warriors, but also 1 Archer and 1 Spear IIRC, then shadowdanced with me for a while. I could get them to walk around for a few turns by inforcing the towns they went for, but had to take the risk of having a new town defended by a vet warrior attacked by a conscript. Naturally, I lost and the town got razed. Also, I lost 23 HP all in all and won only 7 when their warriors were attacking mine, despite fortification and terrain boni. :mad:
Now, there doesn't seem to be any Celtic reinforcement (weird!). I will build enough troops to survive an onslaught, then sign for peace. I need to expand more.....
btw: will get reat Lib very very soon :D
Killer :(...
Still no real shocking news to tell. I'm expanding. I'm at tech parity. I have very nice neighbours that want to trade and all like me. Can't wait for the Sipahi [}:)]
Lt. Killer M
02-04-2003, 10:38
Aggie: I didn't read anything, I clicked the link, saw too many of your avatars and closed it......
LUcky you with your nieghbours.... means you have been a good boy, as opposed to me ;)
quote:Originally posted by Lt. Killer M.
Aggie: I didn't read anything, I clicked the link, saw too many of your avatars and closed it......
I know, but I like the 'angry' smilie :(
quote:
LUcky you with your nieghbours.... means you have been a good boy, as opposed to me ;)
I've got room to expand, no need to fight yet. Plus: would you fight hoplites ? [:0] (I like the 'shocked' smilie as well...)
Melifluous
02-04-2003, 11:09
quote:Originally posted by Aggie
[:0] (I like the 'shocked' smilie as well...)
Its the blowjob or infaltable doll smiley aggie, not shocked ;)
I thought you lived in Amsterdam?
Surely you should have recognised it?!?
[:o)]
Melifluous
Moderator action: moderated because of making fun of the moderator of this sub-forum.
Yes! It worked! [:0]
quote:Originally posted by Melifluous
Its the blowjob or infaltable doll smiley aggie, not shocked ;)
I thought you lived in Amsterdam?
Surely you should have recognised it?!?
He he!
Turn 131:
I reached the Japanese continent and found that Killer dominates the place.
The histograph:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/agki131histograph.JPG
Lt. Killer M
08-04-2003, 22:36
interestingly, the next turns for me shows a trend for aggie:
my revolution went over fast (religious), so it doesn't show on the graph, but the rushing of temples with money does right away :D
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/AK09.jpg
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/AK10.jpg
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/AK11.jpg
Do you have the world map Killer? If so, you may post it you you wanna...
Lt. Killer M
09-04-2003, 09:49
aggie: I will mount our two maps together is you agee, the minimap ones....
Lt. Killer M
09-04-2003, 09:52
ggargh, I deleted the mail by accident - doh!
here is my minimap:
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Lt. Killer M./2003499535_aaaa.jpg
Killer, I'll be playing ERIKK tonight and surely be able to play a couple of turns against you as well. In fact, I look forward to it!
I also have a lot of time this weekend :)
Lt. Killer M
11-04-2003, 13:59
hehe, very nice!
I will have time during the weekend, sadly my evenings are taken though......
Hey opponents! ;)
This evening I will be around till 23:00 CET. I have to work tomorrow (daytime)but have no appointments the rest of the weekend.
I think we will be able to play lots of turns :D
quote:Originally posted by ERIKK
Hey opponents! ;)
This evening I will be around till 23:00 CET. I have to work tomorrow (daytime)but have no appointments the rest of the weekend.
I think we will be able to play lots of turns :D
I think we will be able to finish the game [cry]
At turn 155 Killer says: 'Hey, you're at war with Greece'!
When I open my save I see that they ROP-raped me and took a city [cry].
What to do now? I wasn't prepared! I decide to wait one turn. Korea can be bought into the war with invention. But when I do that, killer will get it as well (TGL). Within one turn I will get the next tech to Mil Trad (gunpowder). Then Killer will be still one tech behind me. Great idea, so it seems...
Turn 156: Killer: 'The Greeks bought Russia in a MPP vs you' [lol]. The Russians have one city left, who cares. 'Wow, they have a lot of money. No they have Korea on their side too'. [wallbash]
Turn 160:
I lost three cities vs the Greeks and Koreans. I'm building up my army like crazy. The Chinese are my allies now vs both Korea and Greece. A good thing: Killer's TGL has expired, so every tech I sell won't give him that tech for free.
Turn 162:
I got Ankara back, but still I must re-capture my only saltpeter city. [sad]
PS. The Koreans were my trading partner and I lost a lot of gpt when they declared war. One very positive thing: I will surely win the UN vote if it stays like this...
That sucks, losing cities means losing lots of improvements and untis...
quote:Originally posted by ERIKK
That sucks, losing cities means losing lots of improvements and untis...
It's true, but these were my most corrupt cities. with a lot of potential though...
Those who do not support me, are against me! (This is a joke Killer [scared]):
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/AgKialliance166.JPG
Killer and I made a deal: I give him Metallurgy for Chivalry and Navigation (was it navigation?, oh well...). This allows me to produce knights!! With that (the first will be ready in turn 170) I will surely re-capture my two lost cities. And I won't stop there. Within 15 turns I will be able to produce Sipahi[dance2]
Turn 183:
Within one turn I'll have Sipahi. Then I won't have to negotiate with this guy anymore:
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/aggie/2003421204938_AgKi179koreanopeace.jpg
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I captured the city the same turn [evil]
Damn, I used Korean worker to hook up the saltpeter. One more turn before Sipahi [sleep]
Turn 186: Maybe a mistake, but I sell Military Tradition to Killer for Banking and Navigation.
Turn 188:
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/aggie/2003425132840_AKgoldenage.jpg
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http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/aggie/2003425132917_AKlighthouse.jpg
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This is the current powergraph. Naturally Killer is far ahead, but I had to recover from an AI sneak attack which lost me three cities.
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/aggie/2003425133038_AK188powergraph.jpg
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Lt. Killer M
25-04-2003, 15:32
a MISTAKE?????? aggie, that deal was very fair.....
quote:Originally posted by Lt. Killer M
a MISTAKE?????? aggie, that deal was very fair.....
OK, I tried to cover my ass [tongue]. I found it a great deal [thumbsup]
Maybe it was a mistake if he was the only one with Mil Trad and everyone else had banking and navigation... ;)
Lt. Killer M
25-04-2003, 16:50
anarres. the others are broke and behind.... well, on par if they are well off.
Killer, they are not broke [coool]
Lt. Killer M
25-04-2003, 17:17
aggie, they are now :D
Moderator Action: corrected spelling and inserted correct smile
Lt. Killer M
25-04-2003, 17:34
tsk tsk tsk, touchy today, hu aggie ;)
Some vital statistics:
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/aggie/200342671510_AgKi200map.jpg
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I believe that the world will only be at peace with two civs left [evil]:
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/aggie/200342671539_AgKi200worldwar.jpg
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Lt. Killer M
26-04-2003, 13:18
aggie and I agreed on a 2 lux for 2 lux deal, as long as it runs (i.e. no minimum).
Lt. Killer M
26-04-2003, 13:19
that is because of the MPPs flying around, I fear the Celts ally with Greece, aggie has MPP with Greece... BAM, I break the deal.... nah, this wouldn't be good to have 20 turns on the deal.
We also agreed that we both would be principally willing to come back to the deal if something 'happens'.
My people want me to thank Killer for the gifts. [bday]
Turn 211:
This is a unikely picture. Peace in the world. [party] However, Killer stands before the gates of Athens [tank]
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/aggie/2003427193645_AgKi211peace.jpg
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Turn 216:
I decided to join Japan in the war vs the evil Greek traitors. Now it's payback time. Did they really think that I forgot their little sneak-attack? [evil]
I took out five cities in the first turn of the war [hammer]
Here's the map:
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/aggie/2003427223847_AgKi216map.jpg
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Killer started the war against Greece by razing Athens. In doing so, he denied me the opportunity to get the Pyramids and Sun Tzu. Clever [thumbsup]
Turn 220:
Nice!
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/aggie/200342819922_AgKi220TEO.jpg
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Lt. Killer M
28-04-2003, 19:11
you fucker! how did you get so far ahead in science????
Lt. Killer M
28-04-2003, 19:28
a new deal: peace and WM and Industrialization for Electricity and Medicine.
First allowed attack date is turn 240 8which gives aggie the chance to stirke first).
Turn 223:
[band]
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/aggie/2003429191125_AgKi223hoover.jpg
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Lt. Killer M
30-04-2003, 12:19
Grrrrr......
and he is industrial...
at least I bagged Universal Suffrage...
NEWS FLASH:
Japan and the Ottoman Empire will have peace until turn 260 [party]
This is established by a lux trade. Japan gives the Ottomans Furs in return for Gems.
Here's the world at turn 240:
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/aggie/200359113121_AKmap240.jpg
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Wow, this game really is moving along nicely. I can't wait to see the tanks roll!
[tank][tank][tank][tank][tank][tank]
Turn 242: Alexander of the Greeks wants to trade world maps. That does it, This insult can't be forgiven. The Ottomans take 5 cities to show them. Greece has three left [evil]
Lt. Killer M
12-05-2003, 08:53
correction: two (well, almost, there was one Longbowman left.....) just wait for turn 243, Alex.......
quote:Originally posted by Lt. Killer M
correction: two (well, almost, there was one Longbowman left.....) just wait for turn 243, Alex.......
Turn 243: Indeed, the Greeks are no more [hammer]. Sorry Killer, I felt the urge to kill them quick [soldier]
Now only the Celts are left, with one city.
Lt. Killer M
13-05-2003, 14:35
are they?
an oversight I think ;)
Turn 246:
Time for an update of the map. Remember Greece? I don't [whipped]
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/aggie/2003513171417_AK246map.jpg
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Lt. Killer M
13-05-2003, 20:38
I do make a lot of mistakes, but the Celts one is corrected by now. Just look a the minimap above and imagine the celtish town was a dark, soothing green.....
mm - looks like someones gonna have to build a few ships - or a big space race is in store. Invading another continent will be realy hard against a fully railed opponent.
Looks nicely balanced from here - but that can be somewhat deceptive.
quote:Originally posted by col
Looks nicely balanced from here - but that can be somewhat deceptive.
Stalemate or no stalemate, that's the question :)
I'm going to prevent a histograph win by Killer, that's for sure[tongue]
That might be difficult as he is quite ahead of you... First of all you need to get your happiness up to create more specialists who will give you more points!
Hehe, it was a (lame) joke ERIKK :). That's one win that certainly will be difficult without war.
Turn 250:
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/aggie/2003622365_AK249headtohead.jpg
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Turn 256:
This one is long overdue:
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/aggie/20036520277_AKBach.jpg
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Turn 261: Killer and I renew a lux deal. This means peace until turn 281 :)
EDIT: The game constantly crashes when we try to renew our deal [cry]
We had a lot of problems yesterday. We weren't able to declare: the game crashes then. After testing for 10 turns, with same result, we agreed to continue until:
1 - One of us wins the space race
2 - We get to nucleair weapons. The first to build a stack of ICBM's will win.
We lost the joy of playing this PBEM a bit, now that we aren't able to go to war anymore.
We will both continue our path to space.
I lead in every category of the F11-screen, except happiness. Killer doesn't seem to mind, because stealing is so cheap. Way to cheap imho. It is very difficult to benefit from my bigger production and income :(
However, with my free tech in the modern age, I will have a shot at getting some vital wonders. I am almost certainly the first to be allowed to build nukes.
Killer may have a tactic I don'texpect...
Lt. Killer M
16-06-2003, 10:25
stealing fails far too often..... :(
I suspect a (dirty) tactic from aggie, too, that will make it impossible to do something about the production difference we have :(
Yes indeed. I use an exploit that is banned in several types of games. I'm not proud, but I want to survive......
Lt. Killer M
16-06-2003, 10:56
ahhhhhhhh, OK; I will name my suspicion: there are a few places where I could land troops and ..... annoy you. I guess I will need marines to land?
Yes, indeed. I blocked the coast with my units, so Killer can't land troops. He indeed needs marines and I won't research that tech for him!
EDIT: hmmm, I see that this Island Block cheat is allowed in the GOTM at CFC (see cheat page). Now I feel a bit better about it.
Lt. Killer M
19-06-2003, 21:20
ahem.
as much as I hate to give up now, I must admit that my chance is NOT worht the hassle of playing this constant crash on........
bow to aggie!
Thank you killer. Next time we will really have a fight huh? Shall we order a map?
Congrats to Aggie!!!!!! :)
Killer, two loses in one day, you will fall on the ladder [cry]
Lt. Killer M
19-06-2003, 23:33
Erik: I plan a comback already ;)
The looser has to fall!
Congrats Aggie!
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