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Skyfish
06-10-2003, 15:50
Following a challenge from "poldermodel players" ProPain and Kemal, Perfid Albion anarres and chauvinistic Skyfish took up the challenge and teamed up in what will hopefully turn out to be an epic PBEM ;)

Here are the map conditions :
Players :
I have decided on player order according to when people usually play turns (Matrix's system) :
- ProPain : Player 1/admin -> Ottomans (Team Kempro)
- Skyfish : Player 2 -> China (Team anarSky)
- Kemal : Player 3 -> Greece (Team Kempro)
- anarres : Player 4 -> Russia (Team anarSky)

Map parameters:
Land form : Pangea
Size : Random
Climate : Wet OR Temperate (NO arid)
Temperature, age, barb level. : All Random

Difficulty :
Deity

No AI civs

Specific requests :
Teammates should be fairly close to each other but with both enough room to expand.
Preferably both facing the other team rather than have one player facing both ennemies
or one facing one with 2 others in the background (do I make any sense ?
The 2 teams should be also separated to allow early unhindered expansion.

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Some points on the rules :

1: Are team members allowed to play each other's turns ?
Yes

2: Should the map be made by the Map Makers ensuring team mates are close to each other?
Yes

3.Will only "team results" be valid ?(i.e preventing possibility of nasty internal backstabbing)
Yes

4.Should there be any AIs ?
In this game we have no AIs : sse the logs of the dicussion below... ;)

5.What's the play order?
A-B-A-B, that is alternating team members.

6. Will contact be allowed before teammates meet?
Yes.

Additional rules I would like introduced are the following :
- Ban of the "far Palace/FP exploit"
- Ban of the "settler creep exploit"
- Ban of the "deficit research exploit" where ONLY a building and a worker gets destroyed per turn even when running huge gpt deficit with 0 gold.

Please react if its a problem and if we need to add antyhing else...
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I will post some chosen extracts of the discussions that occured in an MSM chat concerning the setting up of the game : it got quite heated to say the least :)

Kemal
06-10-2003, 16:12
The KemPro team would like to add the following rule to the set proposed by the anarsky team:

Put a ban on the exploitative feauture of "leader farming" which arises in team games, meaning one player builds cheap units only for his team member to slaughter and get free leaders on. As the impact of leaders in Civ3 is so great, this would massively change the way the game is intented to be played.

As for the other rules you propose, the KemPro team can agree with those. (Or at least this half of the team can). :)

anarres
06-10-2003, 17:49
No leader farming is OK by me. In essence this means we can never be at war with each other - that means no war declarations and no MPP's (although they are useless anyway).

Skyfish
07-10-2003, 09:34
quote:that means no war declarations and no MPP's
I know its obvious but just to be absolutely clear the above rule is only applicable for "within a single team", and not between the teams...

Good we're all agreed on rules, lets wait for ProPain to post here as he might have some additions...

Now about we post our starts ? Any objection ?

anarres
07-10-2003, 10:32
Here is the spoiler for anarSky:

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=994

Sky, If you want your own then so be it, but I think we would do better to share...

Skyfish
07-10-2003, 10:57
Course we will share ! [love] we'll share everything from now on :D

anarres
07-10-2003, 12:14
heh, you have a wife, no? [mwaha] [mischief]

Skyfish
07-10-2003, 12:25
Aha so u wanna share my missus...[nono]

[mad3]

[rocket]

DrAlimentado
07-10-2003, 15:46
what sky dosen't mention is the sharing of the shitty nappy duty too ;)

DrAlimentado
07-10-2003, 16:02
LOL... my post read better with skys original post;

quote:
Two are better than one :D


hehehehehe...

Skyfish
07-10-2003, 16:05
Dr A [mad2]
Your name's next up on the list !!!!! [slay]

ProPain
08-10-2003, 12:43
As Kemal already said, I agree with all proposed additional rules.

anarres
08-10-2003, 13:42
Well I will be the first to post my start then...

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/anarres/2003107205312_001.jpg

Skyfish
09-10-2003, 08:46
And here's my shitty one :( :

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Skyfish/20031098467_Titans-startPublic.jpg

Kemal
09-10-2003, 09:31
Kem's start, fair but not great:

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Kemal/200310993041_start.jpg
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Skyfish
09-10-2003, 09:48
Didn't you move your settler before founding Kemal ? [groucho]

ProPain
09-10-2003, 13:50
I'll post my start when I have a little more time, but I can alrdy say it closely resembles SKy's start.

PP

ProPain
11-10-2003, 12:37
and here it is: my start


http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/ProPain/20031011123648_openstart.jpg
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Skyfish
17-10-2003, 18:10
OK guys I am back from my trip : where is the turn ?
:D

Lets plan a powersession, tomorrow night (Saturday) would be great : who else can ?
In that early stage I think its easy to agree a tactic and have players standing for each other if one of us cant attend...no ?

anarres
17-10-2003, 20:04
If it's not in your inbox then PP still has turn 6...

ProPain
20-10-2003, 10:12
I resend 6 to sky

Skyfish
20-10-2003, 10:25
Turn 6 played and sent on to Kemal...

anarres
15-12-2003, 21:12
We're on turn 43, and look what my scout came across!

Apparently being right next to the evil Ottomans doesn't hold much sway with the local tribesfolk... [lol]

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/anarres/20031215211238_2x2.043.fucksie.jpg
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Aggie
16-12-2003, 06:57
Interesting place for a popped city [rolleyes]

Why isn't there a Kempro spoiler [cry].

Skyfish
16-12-2003, 08:58
quote:Why isn't there a Kempro spoiler
Lazy cunts :D

The negotiations about this village with the local tribesfolk resulted in...utter failure :(
The locals were apparently not interested in expanding their Empire for cheap and did not agree to the very modest requests put forward by the anarSkys [sad]

ProPain
16-12-2003, 09:03
[rotfl] You call that cheap, in comparison to your request sawing of my right arm and trading it for that city seems cheap.

anarres
18-12-2003, 21:59
Look what happened when my popped warrior approached ProPain! [eek] [mwaha]

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/anarres/20031218215943_2x2.049.jpg
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Skyfish
18-12-2003, 22:01
[coool]
Now lets get that settler ? :D

ERIKK
18-12-2003, 22:04
How is this game gonna fit in the ladder? Or isnt it a ladder game?

Skyfish
18-12-2003, 22:05
Course its not !
Its a real fun one nevertheless :D

ERIKK
18-12-2003, 22:08
To bad, Kemal could use some loses on the ladder... ;)

Aggie
19-12-2003, 06:54
EDIT: Whoops *open thread* [eek]

ProPain
22-01-2004, 15:47
no comment



http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/ProPain/200412215475_sevastopol.jpg
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Aggie
22-01-2004, 17:06
I don't understand you guys! Playing against humans without defense in the cities? [confused]

Skyfish
22-01-2004, 17:49
Aggie if you think about it its much less dangerous to do it in a no-AI game than against Deity AIs ;)

Aggie
22-01-2004, 18:22
But you both lost cities this way!

Skyfish
22-01-2004, 18:49
quote:But you both lost cities this way!
Yes....but its for balancing issues of course :D

Stapel
10-02-2004, 16:16
Kemal & PP have no spoiler? Reading the Anarsky spoiler was very good!

I am confused too on the lack of defense.

anarres
10-02-2004, 16:17
I think they also have a spoiler, not sure what the name is...

Kemal
11-02-2004, 11:43
Yes, KemPro has a spoiler too, the "KemPro spoiler thread", started by ERIKK and located in my forum. :)

Stapel
11-02-2004, 13:05
In Kemal's forum.......

anarres
22-03-2004, 19:35
Last save received: 73c on 13/3. It may have come to me again, but it appears I've lost at least 1 days worth of emails (about a week ago).

Skyfish
22-03-2004, 19:57
I just got the save (74) this afternoon ;)

Kemal
22-03-2004, 22:07
....and you were in such a hurry that you forgot to play it before sending on I guess, since I got 074a instead of 074b, asking for the password of the anarsky Chinese ;)

Could you please do a resend sky?