Aggie - Nightfa11

[Aggie]

Nightfa11 and me started a game with the following specs:

-monarch
-small map
-pangaea
-Nightfa11: Greeks
-Aggie: Persia
-Random AI
-Random world
-Random barbs

Here's my starting position:

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/aggie/200371182717_AGNFstart.jpg
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[Nightfa11]

Here's my starting position
http://www.dickey.cc/cobra/agvsnf/nfstart.jpg

[Aggie]

Turn 55:

Nightfa11 and I meet.

We agree to have peace until 0 ad. [love]

[Aggie]

Turn 66:

Nightfa11 and I traded maps:

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/aggie/200377215243_nfmap66.jpg
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The histograph:

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/aggie/200377215349_nfhisto65.jpg
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[Aggie]

Turn 129:

Nightfall says:
hey, I know you're busy but before I play...our peace treaty expires this turn?
Aggie says:
yes it does
Nightfall says:
do you want to continue it or just have at it?
Aggie says:
how long do you want us to keep the peace?
Aggie says:
i don't mind
Nightfall says:
I don't know if I do....in my mind, your advantage increases with more time
Nightfall says:
whereas now I'm reading strong military...so the advantage is mine, or at least we're even
Aggie says:
yes, but at the moment I have a decent military built up
Nightfall says:
strong military against world average that is
Aggie says:
don't understimate my military
Nightfall says:
I'm not
Aggie says:
but you are right, maybe you have to go to war...
Aggie says:
i want peace
Nightfall says:
but yours will just grow stronger and mine will grow weaker...at least in my estimation
Nightfall says:
for how long?
Aggie says:
well, I don't mind peace for a long time
Nightfall says:
let's make it for a number of turns rather than to a specific year
Nightfall says:
like 20 or 50 or 5 turns....(just examples)
Aggie says:
hmmm, 5 and 20 is a little low...
Nightfall says:
those were just examples
Aggie says:
what turn do we have now?
Nightfall says:
you just sent 129
Nightfall says:
I think
Nightfall says:
yes, 129
Aggie says:
ok, what about peace until 170?
Nightfall says:
41 turns....
Aggie says:
yes?
Nightfall says:
mmmm....thinking
Nightfall says:
you are going rock climging starting weds?
Nightfall says:
climbing even
Aggie says:
that's right
Nightfall says:
ok...done deal
Aggie says:
ok, have fun with the ai

[Aggie]

Turn 129:

World Map:

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/aggie/200371417247_AgNF129map.jpg
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The powers of the world:

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/aggie/200371417447_AgNF129power.jpg
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[anarres]

You forgot to say whose turn the deal ends on!

[mwaha] mwahahahahahahahhahahaha [mwaha]

[Aggie]

anarres, I didn't forget ;)

[anarres]

quote:Aggie says:
ok, what about peace until 170?To me this says it ends in turn 170, it doesn't specify when in turn 170. Some people may argue this is (by default) at the start, and so player 1 get the first attack. I would argue that player 1 gets all the trade advantages and so by default deals should end mid-turn, after player 1's go.

If you are player 1 and use the 'Start of Turn' argument for the agreement to end on your turn then you are a very naughty boy, and I suggest we find a suitable way of dealing with you. [evil]

[ERIKK]

...it ends when that turn starts I guess...

...so P1 has the advance here.

[Nightfa11]

Hey, I gotta learn my lesson somehow (and besides, first attacker does NOT always have the advantage :)

[anarres]

Nightfa11, Aggie is just BS'ing. You should renegotiate the agreement since it is not well defined.

Ignore ERIKK, he is just saying that because he used it to get the advantage in a Peace Treaty in our first game. ;) [devil]

[Aggie]

Nightfa11: I was BS'ing indeed [fdevil]

So my proposal is that you may have the first strike, because I wanted peace. :)

[digger760]

[hmm] i remember a time way back in high school were two guys were going to have a fight, one guy[crazyeye] offered the other to have the first shot[hammer]. And i can tell you that first punch was a ripper[B)].

Looking foward to the update.

[Nightfa11]

I'm conceding this one. I had too many failed attacks (stacks too small) and am way behind Aggie in expansion. See the map request forum for our rematch :D

[Aggie]

Nightfall, thanks for the game! I feel that I won it in the early part of the game. I expanded very quickly and was lucky with the lack of resources of the Romans. But I'm sure that you will come back with a vengeance!