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ProPain
23-03-2011, 13:46
It's about a week old news but what the heck. Civilization V has won the Bafta for best strategy game. The other contenders were

- Civilization V
- Fallout: New Vegas
- FIFA Manager 11
- Napoleon Total War
- Plants vs. Zombies XBLA
- Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty

Now I wonder if these judges even play games themselves. Categorising FallOut, FIFA & PvZ as strategy games is stretching the genre imo. My personal favorite from this list is SC2 but I wasn't on the jury :)

Other notable results. Cut the Rope won the Bafta for best handheld. From first hand experience I can say this is indeed a really good game and for the € 0,70 the AppStore charges it's a steal really.

Best game overall went to Mass Effect 2, can't say anything remotely sensible about that as I never played the game :D

PP

BCLG100
23-03-2011, 19:52
What the hell is FIFA Manager? Is it like Football Manager?

ProPain
23-03-2011, 23:44
Yeah, it's exactly that for what I know. Can't claim to be an expert though, never played the game :)

BCLG100
24-03-2011, 01:38
It is Football Manager or it is the same concept? Last i heard FM was its own seperate thing and FIFA only made actual football playing games (just wondering if it is the manager attachment to the FIFA games which i think is unlikely as it is generally poor).

ProPain
24-03-2011, 08:55
Apparently there's FIFA soccer and FIFA manager. Soccer is essentially a sports game where manager is a management game. I suppose you could classify that as a 'strategy' game, but then any game requires some sort of strategy and that doesn't make them strategy games in my book.

BCLG100
24-03-2011, 11:48
Well i know Football Manager is highly strategic and requires a lot of in depth thought. Robi D used to play it on a regular basis also, however i can't believe that FIFA manager is any better than FM.

Robi D
30-03-2011, 14:33
Well i know Football Manager is highly strategic and requires a lot of in depth thought. Robi D used to play it on a regular basis also, however i can't believe that FIFA manager is any better than FM.

I still do from time to time when i get a chance and i'd say it a strategic game and pretty accurate to. I played a version of FIFA manager about 5 or 6 years ago and it was pretty rubbish, it was FIFA game where you didn't play. Don't know how much they have progressed but Football manager is still the management game

Shabbaman
30-03-2011, 16:54
I'm not sure I would call FM a strategy game. There's more long term planning than in most management games though, in that aspect it's head and shoulders above all other management games I've ever played. The game changed the way I look at football. It's a shame it's so time consuming...

I still play the portable version occasionally (read: when I'm on holiday), but that version lacks a lot of detail.

BCLG100
30-03-2011, 17:05
Well there's very little difference between the meaning of 'strategy' and 'management' in those regards imo.

ProPain
30-03-2011, 17:36
WARNING: This post has no scientific base whatsoever

For me the difference between strategy and planning is that strategy involved thinking up a good way to approach a problem. Planning is a process to optimise your execution. That said I consider a management game that basically has only has one strategy that needs to be executed more of a planning game.

By no means saying that applies to FM, haven't played that game.

Robi D
01-04-2011, 16:02
Well FM has more than one strategy, there are lots of choices to make in the different aspects of managing a club, tactics, training, transfers, man management ect all give you different choices to make.

It would be difficult to compare it to civ, i mean one game involves running and build a nation, the other deals with just football. What i would say is they are the best games in their genres (despite the civ5 cock up) and both have given me hundreds, maybe thousands of hours of enjoyment.

Pity there isn't a FM pitboss, it would be good to play a game of FM against a group of people

BCLG100
01-04-2011, 21:14
Well FM has more than one strategy, there are lots of choices to make in the different aspects of managing a club, tactics, training, transfers, man management ect all give you different choices to make.

It would be difficult to compare it to civ, i mean one game involves just running and build a nation, the other deals with football. What i would say is they are the best games in their genres (despite the civ5 cock up) and both have given me hundreds, maybe thousands of hours of enjoyment.

Pity there isn't a FM pitboss, it would be good to play a game of FM against a group of people

Edited for accuracy.