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Matrix
29-07-2010, 16:52
I am Emperor Matriisi of the Finnish Empire.

Events
4000 BC: Helsinki has been founded.
3920 BC: Turku has been founded.
3680 BC: You have discovered The Wheel!
3440 BC: You have discovered Mining!
3440 BC: Hinduism has been founded in a distant land!
3400 BC: Buddhism has been founded in a distant land!
3400 BC: SilentConfusion converts to Buddhism!
3160 BC: You have discovered Animal Husbandry!
3080 BC: Espoo has been founded.
3040 BC: socralynnek adopts Slavery!
2920 BC: You have discovered Bronze Working!
2920 BC: Furiey adopts Slavery!
2800 BC: You have discovered Archery!
2640 BC: You have discovered Pottery!
2640 BC: Stonehenge has been built in a far away land!
2560 BC: You have discovered Mysticism!
2440 BC: Donovan Zoi adopts Slavery!
2240 BC: You have discovered Iron Working!
2080 BC: You have discovered Writing!
2040 BC: Azza adopts Slavery!
2000 BC: You have discovered Fishing!
1960 BC: The Great Lighthouse has been built in a far away land!
1880 BC: Oulu has been founded.
1840 BC: Judaism has been founded in a distant land!
1640 BC: Tampere has been founded.
1600 BC: Donovan Zoi adopts Organized Religion!
1600 BC: You have captured Assyrian!
1600 BC: p-grahamiam adopts Slavery!
1560 BC: You have discovered Mathematics!
1480 BC: Assyrian is renamed to Jyväskylä.
1360 BC: You have discovered Sailing!
1320 AD: Sir Alexander Machenzie (Great Merchant) has been born in a far away land!
1200 BC: The Oracle has been built in a far away land!
1200 BC: Christianity has been founded in a far away land!
1000 BC: Judaism has spread in Tampere.
1000 BC: The revolution has begun!!!
1000 BC: Matriisi converts to Judaism!
975 BC: Nabu-rimanni (Great Scientist) has been born in Athens (p-grahamiam)!
950 BC: Surplus game harvested by hunters near the Holy Roman city of Nuremberg has fueled a minor population boom.
950 BC: barbu1977 has proven that the world is round!
900 BC: You have discovered Calendar!
875 BC: The borders of Tampere have expanded!
875 BC: Lahti has been founded.
875 BC: The Waters of Life, drawn from a certain oasis in Vienna lands, are rumored to be able to cure the sick and heal the injured.
850 BC: Vermin got in to the granary in Vienna. All the food stored there was ruined.
825 BC: You have discovered Meditation!
825 BC: Donovan Zoi adopts Hereditary Rule!
800 BC: The Colossus has been built in a far away land!
700 BC: A slave revolt has taken place in the Portuguese city of Oporto!
675 BC: The borders of Turku have expanded!
650 BC: A volcanic eruption near Andrew Flintoff has devastated the countryside. Fortunately, the English city itself was spared.
650 BC: Gaius Marius (Great General) has been born in a far away land!
650 BC: Khalid ibn al-Walid (Great General) has been born in a far away land!
600 BC: The borders of Jyväskylä have expanded!
600 BC: A tragic mining accident near the Finnish city of Oulu has claimed the lives of hundreds of their miners.
600 BC: Kuopio has been founded.
575 BC: Al-Khwarizmi (Great General) has been born in Athens (p-grahamiam)!
550 BC: You have discovered Metal Casting!
550 BC: The borders of Espoo have expanded!
550 BC: Judaism has spread in Helsinki.
500 BC: p-grahamiam has completed The Pyramids!
500 BC: You have discovered Priesthood!
475 BC: socralynnek has completed The Great Wall!
475 BC: Donovan Zoi has declared war on Azza!
475 BC: A forest has grown near Lahti!
450 BC: Tipu Sultan (Great Prophet) has been born in a far away land!
450 BC: Rovaniemi has been founded.
450 BC: Judaism has spread in Espoo.
450 BC: Espoo and Turku switched names.
425 BC: The Temple of Solomon has been built in a far away land!
425 BC: p-grahamiam has declared war on Azza!
425 BC: Furiey has declared war on Azza!
400 BC: The borders of Tampere have expanded!
400 BC: p-grahamiam adopts Representation.
400 BC: p-grahamiam adopts Organized Religion.
400 BC: Z (Azza) has been captured by the Holy Roman Empire!!!
375 BC: Arminius (Great General) has been born in A (Azza)!
375 BC: Y (Azza) has been captured by the Celtic Empire!!!
350 BC: Confucianism has been founded in Espoo!
350 BC: You have discovered Code of Laws!
350 BC: Haa Huu Haa craftsmen have improved the design of their axe manufacturing. These are the finest axes in the world.
325 BC: You have discovered Masonry!
325 BC: Confucianism has spread in Helsinki.
325 BC: X (Azza) has been captured by the Greek Empire!!!
300 BC: The borders of Lahti have expanded!
300 BC: The Great Library has been built in a far away land!
275 BC: You have discovered Polytheism!
275 BC: The Frenchie Civilization has been destroyed!!!
250 BC: Raphael (Great Artist) has been born in a far away land!
250 BC: A (Azza) has been captured by the Greek Empire!!!
250 BC: p-grahamiam converts to Hinduism!
250 BC: socralynnek has declared war on Donovan Zoi!
225 BC: You have discovered Monotheism!
225 BC: Geronimo (Great General) has been born in Dsching (socralynnek)!
225 BC: Vienna (Donovan Zoi) has been captured by the He Reiter, Ho Reiter!!!
225 BC: Cao Cao (Great General) has been born in Athens (p-grahamiam)!
200 BC: Matriisi has completed Mausoleum of Maussollos!
200 BC: Vantaa has been founded.
175 BC: El Cid (Great General) has been born in Florence (Donovan Zoi)!
175 BC: Donovan Zoi has made peace with Azza!
175 BC: Furiey has made peace with Azza!
175 BC: N (Azza) has been captured by the Greek Empire!!!
175 BC: The Mysterious Civilization has been destroyed!!!
150 BC: Mainz (Donovan Zoi) has been captured by the He Reiter, Ho Reiter!!!
100 BC: You have discovered Currency!
100 BC: A slave revolt has taken place in the Portuguese city of Oporto!
75 BC: Stapel's Golden Age has begun!!!
75 BC: Stapel adopts Bureaucracy!
75 BC: Stapel adopts Organized Religion!
50 BC: socralynnek has completed The Hanging Gardens!
50 BC: Undead Beorn has been founded.
25 BC: Undead Beorn is renamed to Joensuu.
25 BC: The borders of Oulu have expanded!
25 BC: Confucianism has spread in Jyväskylä.

Starting position
http://straland.com/images/cdz/rqfs01.jpg
As you can see I've started very close to Furiey. My plan...no, my hope is that horses will be in or close to my territory, so that I can build the Persian immortals and kill her off quickly. If there are no horses within the vicinity I might rethink.

Lt. Killer M
29-07-2010, 17:09
I spy gold and gems...... you're gonna be a research monster if you play this right, and production will be tolerable despite the green, flat land, because of the large city sizes you can reach :)

Robi D
30-07-2010, 01:07
Going for a early settler build i see. Where are you planning of putting that city?

Matrix
30-07-2010, 01:37
Depends on what scouting present me. Hopefully five tiles above Helsinki will be a good spot to preserve what I'd call the perfect city spread (all land tiles used, minimal overlap). I thought of building that settler straight away because I could build a farm on those corns.

The Maori Statues will be built in the future city located on the incense down south. But that's in the long term planning.

@Killer: Indeed, the problem in the beginning is that cities cannot grow that far because of unhappiness, but with that shiny stuff they can be two sizes larger. :D Not to mention the commerce the tiles themselves can produce!

Lt. Killer M
30-07-2010, 14:07
@Killer: Indeed, the problem in the beginning is that cities cannot grow that far because of unhappiness, but with that shiny stuff they can be two sizes larger. :D Not to mention the commerce the tiles themselves can produce!

A mined gems hill can double or triple your research early on - wow! I always love starts where I have enough food to use such a tile early on :) I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with this potential! Don't fall into the trap of becoming a builder, though!

Matrix
31-07-2010, 18:35
It's crowded! I just met SilentConfusion's scout, which you can see on the southeast here, and in the northeast you can see socralynnek's border! [:O]

http://straland.com/images/cdz/rqfs02.jpg

Matrix
08-09-2010, 19:58
There's little room for everyone. About 4-5 cities per civ. I have signed a peace treaty with SilentConfusion and am aiming to hit Furiey with my Immortals. But we're on equal level in the power graph, so either she's up to something herself, or she's on to me.

http://straland.com/images/cdz/rqfs03.jpg

http://straland.com/images/cdz/rqfs04.jpg

Lt. Killer M
08-09-2010, 22:40
I would not be so sure that she's on to you or planning something - this early in the game with such a crowded map everybody will be nervous about a sneak attack and build more troops than we all tend to do if there is more space. This game looks very different from some others I have watched.

akots
08-09-2010, 23:53
If you are plannning to do Immortals rush, you might consider putting a lot of effort into it as early as possible. Don't build that monument but instead chop all forests into Immortals and slave all population to make more units.

Matrix
24-09-2010, 23:35
I'm all peaceful now. Furiey holds a firm 1st place on the power graph because of her position on the map. She borders next to everyone on the continent, while I am nicely cosy in a corner. So I have a peace deal with socralynnek and grahamiam until 1 AD and with furiey until 400 AD.
http://straland.com/images/cdz/rqfs06.jpg
I also met barbu this turn on the north-eastern tip of the continent, because he has a work boat there.

http://straland.com/images/cdz/rqfs05.jpg
Assyrian was a barbarian city, exactly on the location where I planned my last (home built) city on this continent. [:D]

The gold and diamond had a good effect on my economy, but there has been absolutely no improvement. As you can see there are two clear leaders.
http://straland.com/images/cdz/rqfs07.jpg

Robi D
25-09-2010, 16:21
You still looking good. The peace deals give you a good chance to focus on domestic matters and maybe taking some time to go sailing?

Matrix
25-09-2010, 19:26
Spot-on! [;)]

Matrix
08-10-2010, 18:17
I met Stapel this turn; he was the last for me to meet.

Unfortunately both Stapel and barbu1977 have a galley at my side of the globe. Firstly that means that they can settle on the islands west of me. Therefore I cannot wait until my research is above 50% to settle there myself or one of them might claim it. Secondly, there is a possibility to circumnavigate the globe before caravels.

http://straland.com/images/cdz/rqfs08.jpg

http://straland.com/images/cdz/rqfs09.jpg

Matrix
17-10-2010, 14:35
Oh, look at that! [:O] Right under my capital, ripe for the picking. :)

http://straland.com/images/cdz/rqfs10.jpg

I have a few issues to settle. There is absolutely no reason for my to fight any war, because I have this newly discovered island to claim and apart from that also three other locations to claim (two small islands and a narrow peninsula). But I'm at 40% science at this moment and some cities have built all the buildings available or are building the last one.

My food production is the second highest.*
My production is the highest.*
My GNP is below average.*

Therefore I think I should build a couple more workers and perhaps even build cottages on hills, which I'm not used to do.

Peace treaties:
Grahamiam: until 1 AD.
Furiey: until 400 AD.
Socralynnek: until 500 AD.
Stapel: termination of peace should be noted 25 turns in advance.

Lastly, barbu1977 circumnavigated the globe.

*: Stapel is the only one of whom I cannot see graphs. I didn't check the demographics.

Robi D
20-10-2010, 10:07
My opinion would be to keep the peace, settle the islands (well the ones you think are worth settling) and beeline CoL for courthouses. As long as you can be near certain of long term peace then i would not worry about dipping the research rate lower, you'll catch it up later on once the cities are established. Basically what i did in CDZ Earth I ;)

Darkness
20-10-2010, 10:39
My opinion would be to keep the peace, settle the islands (well the ones you think are worth settling) and beeline CoL for courthouses. As long as you can be near certain of long term peace then i would worry about dipping the research rate lower, you'll catch it up later on once the cities are established. Basically what i did in CDZ Earth I ;)

It's also the strategy I used with my Vikings to get that insane growth spurt in RtW2. Seems like a good idea here to me too.

Matrix
20-10-2010, 20:23
I was thinking the exact same thing. :)

Matrix
26-10-2010, 21:29
Score (2nd)
http://straland.com/images/cdz/rqfs12.jpg http://straland.com/images/cdz/rqfs11.jpg

GNP (Look at the jump I made!)
http://straland.com/images/cdz/rqfs13.jpg http://straland.com/images/cdz/rqfs11.jpg

Production (oh so high)
http://straland.com/images/cdz/rqfs14.jpg http://straland.com/images/cdz/rqfs11.jpg

Food (2nd! :))
http://straland.com/images/cdz/rqfs15.jpg http://straland.com/images/cdz/rqfs11.jpg

Power (My defense is peace treaties.)
http://straland.com/images/cdz/rqfs16.jpg http://straland.com/images/cdz/rqfs11.jpg

Matrix
28-10-2010, 23:05
Made a proposal to grahamiam for peace till 500 AD and to Donovan Zoi till 1000 AD. barbu is so weak, we don't need a treaty. [tongue]

This is one of those pitbosses that sucks me into it. I'm gonna enjoy this one, nurture it and thus you will see many updates!

Darkness
29-10-2010, 13:58
This is one of those pitbosses that sucks me into it. I'm gonna enjoy this one, nurture it and thus you will see many updates!

Which, of course, is exactly what we spoiler-starved lurkers want to see... :)

Matrix
30-10-2010, 17:12
Well, I added the entire in-game log in the first post and will also keep my agreements with other civs up to date there.

In any case, here is the current map. Two or three spots left to claim: the middle island west of Helsinki, the peninsula southeast of Helsinki and perhaps another island to the south, west of grahamiam.
http://straland.com/images/cdz/rqfs17.jpg

Grahamiam agreed with peace extension. Haven't heard from Donovan yet, but we have a resource deal and he's currently at war with Azza (AI), so I don't think I can expect hassle from him.

Almost all my cities are building a forge now. That'll take some time.

Matrix
02-11-2010, 20:03
PM from socralynnek:
maybe you have seen that grahamiam, furiey and donovan have simultaneously declared war on former Azza. I fear they might have some kind of alliance, which might mean that we'd soon face 3 strong opponents.

If you are thinking the same then how about striking them first before they grow strong. I have a nice army handy (I am at least stronger by some margin than Furiey and Donovan in the power ranking) and so we could attack them while they are still busy with Rome.

What do you think?My answer:
It's a nice thought, but I have the intention to not get involved in any war at this moment. Indeed, it's a pity that they can take advantage of Azza turning AI, but then again it's good that they're dividing it among themselves, so that there won't be one big boss on the continent.

You could ask Furiey to join you in a war against Donovan Zoi, or the other way around. I know that Furiey hates her position on the continent, so she'll probably be craving for a military partner. ;) But count me out!

PM to Donovan Zoi:
Looks like the both of us are doing pretty decent in the pitboss. :) And I'd like to keep it that way. Therefore, would you like to sign a peace treaty with me? For all I care it can be a very long and firm one, e.g. until 1000 AD. Perhaps by then we're the only ones left on the continent. ;) But if that's too long, feel free to make a counter proposal.Reply from Donovan Zoi:
Yes, you and I (and barbu) seem to trading off the lead nicely! So I hope I don't end up regretting the following:

I've sent an in-game message to you agreeing to 800AD, so let's leave it at that for now. We can then renegotiate 10 turns before the agreement expires.

BTW, what can you tell me about socralynnek's troop build up? He seems to storing up for something, and I don't have OB with him.My answer:
Dunno. I'm not planning to get involved in any war at the moment, so I'm afraid you'll have to ask him yourself.

Matrix
06-11-2010, 12:59
Socralynnek declared war on Donovan Zoi!! http://straland.com/images/smilies/jump.gif

I kept them both on friendly terms, despite the fact that they both have asked me what's the deal? I honestly don't know what the outcome will be of this, but it's gonna harm them both. Donovan Zoi is economically stronger, but the power graph shows socralynnek as strongest, and he just finished a quest which gave him better axemen.

Good, good, good... :)

Matrix
11-11-2010, 01:45
http://straland.com/images/cdz/rqfs18.jpg
And yet another nice spot! This one's rather far away, though. But I have a peace deal both with Stapel and barbu1977: end notice 25 turns in advance! Barbu1977 says to prefer a building game. Stapel is a big warmonger though, and 25 turns might still not be enough to build up defenses against him. So if I go this far to expand, I really need to have some more military material.

Meanwhile Donovan Zoi is squeezing out his population to fight socralynnek. He lost two cities already. I hold a firm #1 position in the score now. I should start thinking about alliances and defense.

Matrix
25-11-2010, 12:16
Events continued...
1 AD: The borders of Kuopio have expanded!
1 AD: John D. Rockefeller (Great Merchant) has been born in a far away land!
1 AD: St. Patrick (Great Prophet) has been born in a far away land!
25 AD: A slave revolt has taken place in the English city of Simon's Spot!
50 AD: Georgy Zhukov (Great General) has been born in Dsching (socralynnek)!
75 AD: You have discovered Machinery!
75 AD: Hinduism has spread in Rovaniemi.
75 AD: Our eldest scholars have collaborated on an effort to collect, record and preserve all of our oral traditions and unwritten literature.
They require storage space for pottery, stone tablets and other artifacts, as well as special repositories within our cities.
75 AD: Subutai (Great General) has been born in Dsching (socralynnek)!
100 AD: The Temple of Artemis has been built in a far away land!
100 AD: Finnish scholars have successfully recorded all of their oral traditions and stories in to a new compendium of literature, thereby completing the classic quest of Classic Literature!
125 AD: Helsinki can no longer work on The Temple of Artemis. The lost http://forums.civfanatics.com/images/smilies/civ4/hammer.gif is converted into 66http://forums.civfanatics.com/images/smilies/civ4/gold.gif !
125 AD: The Sistine Chapel has been built in a far away land!
125 AD: Taoism has been founded in a distant land!
125 AD: Stapel's Golden Age has ended...
150 AD: You have discovered Construction!
150 AD: Aristotle (Great Scientist) has been born in Helsinki (Matriisi)!
150 AD: The borders of Jyväskylä have expanded!
150 AD: Vaasa has been founded.
150 AD: Matriisi's Golden Age has begun!!!
175 AD: You have discovered Monarchy!
175 AD: Matriisi adopts Hereditary Rule!
175 AD: Matriisi adopts Caste System!
175 AD: Matriisi adopts Organized Religion!
175 AD: Matriisi converts to Confucianism!
175 AD: barbu1977 adopts Bureaucracy!
225 AD:Taoism has spread in Vaasa.
275 AD: You have discovered Feudalism!
275 AD:Confucianism has spread in Joensuu.
275 AD: Xi Ling Shi (Great Scientist) has been born in Athens (p-grahamiam)!
275 AD: Zoi (Donovan Zoi) has been captured by the He Reiter, Ho Reiter!!!
300 AD: Nikolaus August Otto (Great Engineer) has been born in Immer Weiter (socralynnek)!
300 AD: socralynnek's Golden Age has begun!!!
300 AD: Confucianism has spread in Turku.
325 AD: Confucianism has spread in Oulu.
350 AD: You have discovered Civil Service!
375 AD: TheTemporaryRuler adoptsBureaucracy!
375 AD: Confucianism has spread in Tampere.
400 AD: Michiel De Ruyter (Great General) has been born in Prague (Donovan Zoi)!
400 AD: El Cid has died in combat!
400 AD: William the Conqueror (Great General) has been born in Dsching Dsching (socralynnek)!
400 AD: Augsburg (Donovan Zoi) has been captured by the He Reiter, Ho Reiter!!!
450 AD: Nicola Tesla (Great Engineer) has been born in Camulodunum (Furiey)!
475 AD: Atisha (Great Prophet) has been born in Lisbon (barbu1977)!
475 AD: Donovan Zoi adoptsTheocracy!
500 AD: You have discovered Guilds!
520 AD: You have discovered Horseback Riding!
520 AD: Angkor Wat has been built in a far away land!

[COLOR=Gray]540 AD: barbu1977 has completed University of Sankore!
580 AD: Charles Darwin (Great Scientist) has been born in Helsinki (Matriisi)!
580 AD: barbu1977's Golden Age has begun!!!
640 AD: You have discovered Engineering!
640 AD: The borders of Espoo have expanded!
680 AD: Makhail Lomonosov (Great Scientist) has been born in Aachen (Donovan Zoi)!
680 AD: barbu1977 has completed The Spiral Minaret!
680 AD: Confucianism has spread in Mainz.
680 AD: Harkuf (Great Merchant) has been born in Garfield Sobers (Stapel)!
680 AD: Furiey has declared war on socralynnek!
680 AD: Mainz (socralynnek) has been captured by the Celtic Empire!!!
680 AD: Furiey's Golden Age has begun!!!
700 AD: A cache of ancient texts has been discovered hidden away in a English monastery.
700 AD: barbu1977 adopts Hereditary Rule!
720 AD: You have declared war on socralynnek!
740 AD: The borders of Tampere have expanded!
740 AD: Stapel has completed Notre Dame!
740 AD: barbu1977's Golden Age has ended...
740 AD: You have captured Steppenwind!
740 AD: You have captured Immer Weiter!

760 AD: Helsinki can no longer work on Notre Dame. The lost http://forums.civfanatics.com/images/smilies/civ4/hammer.gif is converted into 120http://forums.civfanatics.com/images/smilies/civ4/gold.gif !