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mauer
12-03-2008, 06:54
The game is now up!

View the civstats info at....
http://www.civstats.com/viewgame.php?gameid=852

Settings:
Archi map (was no option for fractal archi), low seas, huge, no vassals, no tech trading, civs as requested, and all victory conditions enabled. No other special conditions, and the game is on a 20 hour turn time.

DM's will not be tolerated unless the general consensus is that all attempts were made by the DMer to avoid having to do it. Not a lawyer so I don't know how to be ridiculously specific about this, but you're all grown ups and no how to handle this.

BCLG100
12-03-2008, 11:44
My start is absolute poo :( hows everyone elses?

Robboo
12-03-2008, 12:58
complete crap...

grahamiam
12-03-2008, 13:11
Mine's playable

socralynnek
12-03-2008, 13:17
Mine is very very....oh wait, i am not even playing this game...;)

Robi D
12-03-2008, 13:33
My start is uhhh... well interesting would be a good way to put it

BCLG100
12-03-2008, 14:09
I would not be against a restart- just so folk know.

Main reason is i have tundra outside my fat cross and then ice after that.

mauer
12-03-2008, 14:15
Yeah, I have an crap starting spot as well. So is everyone cool with a restart then?

Matrix
12-03-2008, 14:41
My capital is ok, but I have my doubts about the surroundings.

grahamiam
12-03-2008, 14:42
How many times do we want to restart? Can we at least let the other's check thier spot? Maybe you three are the only ones with bad starts.

Matrix
12-03-2008, 14:49
Hm, three out of six starts are crap. How much chance do you think there is everyone will have a reasonable start when we restart? By the way, this is what you get with archipelago maps anyway.

If we restart we should ask someone not in this game to generate a map and check the starting positions.

BCLG100
12-03-2008, 15:44
quote:Originally posted by grahamiam

How many times do we want to restart? Can we at least let the other's check thier spot? Maybe you three are the only ones with bad starts.


I think thats the best idea. I dont mind playing on with this game just i wouldnt playing a start which has some appeal.

akots
12-03-2008, 15:49
Well, starts on archipelago maps are mostly crappy especially after RtW that would seem for China and thus BCLG became quite upset. ;)

Checking the starts by somebody not playing is a good idea IMO, just to make sure that everyone gets a crappy start.

mauer
12-03-2008, 15:50
I don't mind playing it either, just thought I'd wait for a yay or nay from you lot :)

grahamiam
12-03-2008, 18:00
quote:Originally posted by Matrix
If we restart we should ask someone not in this game to generate a map and check the starting positions.
I'm fine with this idea if we can find someone (Beam?). I just don't want to keep rerolling starts for a week or so.

barbu1977
12-03-2008, 18:22
My start is not bad at all, but how do we judge a good start?

nitro1974
12-03-2008, 20:16
I like it! That doesn't mean it's a good or bad start, but it's definately a start that's worth playing...

BCLG100
12-03-2008, 20:18
Well lets just carry on then, the majority of people seem happy with their start :)

killercane
12-03-2008, 22:10
I get network does not exist when i try to log on to the Hamachi client.

BCLG100
12-03-2008, 22:23
mine green lighting by the game, try a re-load?

killercane
12-03-2008, 22:39
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100

mine green lighting by the game, try a re-load?

deleted

killercane
12-03-2008, 23:40
Got in and played. Start is fine. Thanks for hosting Mauerdude.

Robi D
13-03-2008, 00:12
From what i read no one got a brilliant start, we all seem to have some issues. I would say play on, overcoming a less the ideal start is part of the challenge.

Also as Barbu said, how do you judge how good a start is, it is a subjective thing. One way would be for all of us to post our starting positions but would we all agree to that? Even then we we need a good 20-30 turns exploring to really work out what we have to work with for the begining of the game.

mauer
13-03-2008, 01:21
Play on it is then. Good luck to all. Also....Simon is a bastard. Just thought I'd get that out of the way.

Robboo
13-03-2008, 02:32
yeah play on... a bad start usually means a prime city nearby... law of averages.

barbu1977
13-03-2008, 03:40
OK I had a second look and I have a very nice start, but that does not mean I'm going to have horses, Iron or Cooper!

grahamiam
13-03-2008, 03:44
What is the civstat password? I'd like to register the game for the free spam.
thanks

Robi D
13-03-2008, 03:53
quote:Originally posted by grahamiam

What is the civstat password? I'd like to register the game for the free spam.
thanks

spam

grahamiam
13-03-2008, 03:58
thanks!

Matrix
13-03-2008, 16:03
Killercane and I have got exactly the same colour. [sad] Besides that, there are a lot of subtle variations of red and orange in here which will make it hard to separate each other on the map.

Apart from that, why are there two mauers in the game. [hmm]

akots
13-03-2008, 17:07
My start is OK, not quite shining but certainly playable.

IanDC
13-03-2008, 17:14
I would describe my start as adequate, depending on what's over the horizon & strategic resources.

mauer
13-03-2008, 17:23
quote:Originally posted by Matrix

Killercane and I have got exactly the same colour. [sad] Besides that, there are a lot of subtle variations of red and orange in here which will make it hard to separate each other on the map.

Apart from that, why are there two mauers in the game. [hmm]

Short answer, bodean was over here last night.

Long answer, I've got an army buddy that lives in Kentucky down visiting for the week and I'm on vacation. We decided we would play a game of Axis and Allies Europe, so I called bodean to see if he could swing it. He came over and I reminded him that he needed to play his turn. So he logs in on my computer and forgot to change the display name.

killercane
13-03-2008, 20:16
quote:Originally posted by Matrix

Killercane and I have got exactly the same colour. [sad] Besides that, there are a lot of subtle variations of red and orange in here which will make it hard to separate each other on the map.

Apart from that, why are there two mauers in the game. [hmm]

Must mean we are brothas from anotha motha.

BCLG100
13-03-2008, 22:49
quote:Originally posted by mauer

quote:Originally posted by Matrix

Killercane and I have got exactly the same colour. [sad] Besides that, there are a lot of subtle variations of red and orange in here which will make it hard to separate each other on the map.

Apart from that, why are there two mauers in the game. [hmm]

Short answer, bodean was over here last night.

Long answer, I've got an army buddy that lives in Kentucky down visiting for the week and I'm on vacation. We decided we would play a game of Axis and Allies Europe, so I called bodean to see if he could swing it. He came over and I reminded him that he needed to play his turn. So he logs in on my computer and forgot to change the display name.


He realises its a daily thing right?

mauer
13-03-2008, 22:50
He knows, hope he plays it.

Matrix
13-03-2008, 22:58
Well, for the first turn you had to remind him as well... [rolleyes]

killercane
23-03-2008, 06:05
Im not able to connect to this game atm, but I can connect to the Arboria game just fine and I see Mauer player and Mauer server on Ham Sushi. Dont need a rollback or anything Im not doing squat but just wondering what was up.

mauer
23-03-2008, 06:34
anyone else having problems? I see a few of you haven't finished your turn with under 3 hours to go. I was able to log in, so I'm figuring that KC tooled around with his specs. Well, since he said as much anyways. If we're having problems though, I'll take it down until we fix it and roll back if need be. Just let me know.

akots
23-03-2008, 07:01
Don't know, no problem here.

Robboo
23-03-2008, 17:11
Nope just forgot to press enter.

mauer
23-03-2008, 17:39
Looks like cane is having issues on his end is all. KC, you able to fix it or find a sub? Hate to let the game roll if you can't get in.

Robi D
24-03-2008, 01:32
Got in just fine, my only issue is with the terrain i'm looking at when i do get in[tongue]

mauer
24-03-2008, 01:37
Yeah, me too robi. They've already told us to stop being panty waste about it though. [:p]

BCLG100
24-03-2008, 02:03
I will bet my entire civ that my surrounding territory is the worst in the game.

mauer
24-03-2008, 02:11
Well, if it is then who'd want it?

BCLG100
24-03-2008, 02:14
never said anyone would take the bet.

mauer
24-03-2008, 02:34
I'll still come get it though, so no worries :)

Beorn
24-03-2008, 03:10
I'd take the bet if I had the intention of playing.

Robi D
24-03-2008, 03:44
quote:Originally posted by mauer

Yeah, me too robi. They've already told us to stop being panty waste about it though. [:p]


Not complaining about it, just saying its a bit of an eyesore.

On the plus side given the limited options i don't have to debate about which spot to settle next[lol]

killercane
24-03-2008, 06:13
I havent had time to figure out the problem. Anyone wanna sub for a while?

killercane
25-03-2008, 14:42
Well looks like I made a post that didnt post. Hamachi forums tell me that the problem is on your end M. Dont know how that could be since everyone else connects (but I can connect to other games?). So if you could AI me for a bit until support gets back to me that would be ok.

mauer
25-03-2008, 21:54
cane has been AIed. If there's anything that could be wrong on my end please share the info. All I know is that I'm able to connect to my pitboss and to Indiansmoke's, and that others can connect to me except for KC.

BCLG100
25-03-2008, 21:58
Gone are the days where playing multiplayer just involved attaching a file to an email eh?

Robboo
27-03-2008, 12:43
Cant connect...

Robboo
27-03-2008, 12:45
Cant connect. It says Mauer the player is active but Mauer the server is not. ITs OK for the turn to roll over. I had a build que and planned moves.

BCLG100
27-03-2008, 13:58
Same with me- not that im really doing much tbh so no need for a reload if there is one.

mauer
27-03-2008, 14:07
Sorry guys, meant to check on it before I left this morning but was running behind. Will be 6 to 8 hours. Anybody else miss their turn because of this?

killercane
27-03-2008, 14:44
Can you see if your server can ping me? I think Im Uno on there since I reinstalled hamachi trying to figure this deal out. What a terrible support page they have. They have a game problems thread, but you go through all the suggestions, and it just ends! Not even a call the 800 number, which I spent 15 minutes of my time on to no avail.

BCLG100
27-03-2008, 18:19
From memory if you reinstall hamachi you have to rejoin the network. Something to do with that ip being stuck now.

mauer
27-03-2008, 20:32
Reloaded, there is 7:53 remaining on the turn.
Still need to play:
Simon
Rob
Robi
Nitro

If there's a problem getting your turn in, due to the time out, just let me know and I'll do my best to fix it.

mauer
27-03-2008, 20:54
quote:Originally posted by killercane

Can you see if your server can ping me? I think Im Uno on there since I reinstalled hamachi trying to figure this deal out. What a terrible support page they have. They have a game problems thread, but you go through all the suggestions, and it just ends! Not even a call the 800 number, which I spent 15 minutes of my time on to no avail.

I can ping you.

killercane
27-03-2008, 21:28
Well by god it works sweet as soda pop. AI has ran around in circles in my vast swath of desert looks like.

mauer
27-03-2008, 21:47
I wonder if me having to reboot the PC had anything to do with it? I really have no clue why Hamachi wouldn't work for you. But now it seems that you're our resident Hamachi expert! Having read the entire website and called the 800 # and what not [:p]

killercane
27-03-2008, 22:18
Yeah I guess it created some new tunneling path automatically. Who fucking knows. But it works well now!

Robboo
27-03-2008, 23:48
got in thanks Mauer.

KC welcome back. Mauer probably put you on a banned list.

mauer
28-03-2008, 02:26
I didn't know I could put people on a banned list. Now that I do though, I know just the cajun to ban.

Robboo
28-03-2008, 04:20
quote:Originally posted by mauer

I didn't know I could put people on a banned list. Now that I do though, I know just the cajun to ban.

Thats cool.. I already got into your computer and stole your ID. Now I can go score crazy Mexican chicks at the grocery store.

barbu1977
28-03-2008, 13:53
quote:Originally posted by Robboo

quote:Originally posted by mauer

I didn't know I could put people on a banned list. Now that I do though, I know just the cajun to ban.

Thats cool.. I already got into your computer and stole your ID. Now I can go score crazy Mexican chicks at the grocery store.


Lol

mauer
29-03-2008, 01:28
Sorry for the short notice guys, but I've got to take the game down for the weekend. I'll have it back up in approximately 48 hours. I'm gonna be out of town for the weekend and my wife needs the computer out of the way. The painters are gonna come and paint grandma's room and my room, so they'll need to have stuffed pulled out of the way. Again, my apologies for the late notice.

mauer
31-03-2008, 03:55
OK guys, the game is back up. Again, sorry for the short notice on the break. If I hadn't been out of town it would have just been a couple hours, but I haven't given my wife a class on setting up the pitboss server and civstats uploader yet...lol

BCLG100
31-03-2008, 22:15
I don't know about everyone else but this has been thrill a minute/edge of your seat stuff so far! ;)

barbu1977
31-03-2008, 22:17
I can't wait to see what is going to be in my goodie hut!

I'm wondering, is there a way to speed up the turntimer for the first 2 weeks of a game to let's say 12hrs and put it back to 24 when the first barbs arrive?

BCLG100
31-03-2008, 22:22
you can change the turn timer mid game for sure. I already popped my goody hut, i got fission!

mauer
01-04-2008, 00:08
Sorry it's a boring game. I'd change the turn timer, but there's no way I'd make all my turns at 12 hours. I know Bodean has a pretty busy schedule as well and is probably toughing it out just to make 20 hour turns. Just floating the idea here to see what kind of responses I get, but what would you all think about a tearing down the game and starting a new one with different settings?

BCLG100
01-04-2008, 00:15
I dont mind so much but its up to everyone else- we could try advanced start with say 2000 gold or something like that. That'd bring us back to where we are now essentially.

Beorn
01-04-2008, 00:24
I think that, if (at least!) 2 of you are bound to be slow, advanced start would help.

mauer
01-04-2008, 00:44
Started a poll for this discussion ----->http://civ3duelzone.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5208

akots
01-04-2008, 01:00
I think it is an OK game, Civ4 is actually boring and slow but once it gets going after 60-70 turns, it will get better. As all have noticed, I'm having a horrible start (dead last in score for the time being) but it is still OK, just slow going at the beginning. If the map would have been inspected before the start for overlaps or for two civs on one island, we could have started with 2 settlers, 3 warriors, worker and some gold but even if we did not, it still might be fine.

Robboo
01-04-2008, 13:11
yeah this is typical just give it a chance

Robboo
09-04-2008, 12:59
game is down as is "mauer server".

:)

mauer
09-04-2008, 13:36
Sorry guys, was a power outage last night. Thunderstorms and all. Working on it right now.

EDIT: Done, only Matrix, Robi, and akots have played thus far.

mauer
09-04-2008, 13:51
Nitro wants me to remind everyone that going to war with the host is not an option. This public announcement brought to you by "Winers r' us": We don't cry, we just stay drunk. Besides, I'll probably boot whoever goes to war with me from the game [:p]

Robi D
09-04-2008, 14:24
As long as simon isn't next to you your pretty safe

BCLG100
09-04-2008, 14:47
he's next to me in another game though!

nitro1974
09-04-2008, 20:51
quote:Originally posted by mauer

Nitro wants me to remind everyone that going to war with the host is not an option.

That was indeed my message, but I was hoping that you would only relay the message, and not who the messenger was. [mischief]

Suddenly, I feel of having committed a suicidal act... [headstab]

mauer
09-04-2008, 22:03
Knowing this lot, it'll probably make me a bigger target! That and my far superior gaming abilities.

Robi D
10-04-2008, 09:12
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100

he's next to me in another game though!


but he isn't hosting that one:D

BCLG100
18-04-2008, 19:13
I can't seem to connect to the game network, is it down?

mauer
18-04-2008, 22:31
Sorry guys, game is back up now. I guess the power went out last night and I didn't even notice. My alarm still went of though!? Anyways, 7 hours remain. If the timing has inconvenienced any of you all, just let me know.

mauer
19-04-2008, 04:20
Looks like KC and BC might miss their turns. I'll roll it back to a time that you two can get back on if you just send me a PM and let me know.

BCLG100
19-04-2008, 12:16
I'm good with just letting it go im still not really doing that much.

BCLG100
21-04-2008, 21:40
Someone will be pleased to know they have me on their doorstep- just waiting for a cultural border to expand! :)

mauer
21-04-2008, 23:04
I've found everyone but Simon so far.

mauer
22-04-2008, 23:32
Nobodies noticed yet I think, but the game was down. Bringing it back up now. For some reason my PC keeps shutting down.

BCLG100
06-05-2008, 18:46
Woooo i can build tin men!!!

Robboo
07-05-2008, 00:07
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100

Woooo i can build tin men!!!

what? You drinking again. ;)

Matrix
10-05-2008, 16:51
Aagh, it was a mistake to spy KC to see him in the score chart. Now there are two orange lines. http://www.straland.com/images/smilies/ack.gif

BCLG100
10-05-2008, 16:52
Round two of the crappy start argument

I can't actually reach anyone else till optics and i can't attack/settle/whatever till astronomy!

mauer
10-05-2008, 20:24
I should have done a restart before anyone logged in at the very first of the game.

Robi D
11-05-2008, 03:20
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100

Round two of the crappy start argument

I can't actually reach anyone else till optics and i can't attack/settle/whatever till astronomy!


It the attack part that really bothers you[tongue]

grahamiam
11-05-2008, 05:05
down again?

mauer
11-05-2008, 14:17
Sorry guys, I live in the country. Power outages happen often, but don't last long fortunately. Tis back up now :)

grahamiam
14-05-2008, 02:36
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/grahamiam/200851423638_timeout.JPG

mauer
14-05-2008, 04:16
It's up and running. Barbu was able to get in just a few minutes ago.

grahamiam
14-05-2008, 04:34
[goodjob]

Matrix
14-05-2008, 11:36
Shouldn't we try to find a substitute for killercane? He's last in score now...

BCLG100
14-05-2008, 11:45
He started playing the arboria game again so perhaps he'll start again on this one.

Robboo
14-05-2008, 13:17
quote:Originally posted by Matrix

Shouldn't we try to find a substitute for killercane? He's last in score now...


HE is last in score because the AI attacked me...not because its the AI. And I talked to KC and he said to "go ahead and kill it".

mauer
14-05-2008, 14:05
quote:Originally posted by Matrix

Shouldn't we try to find a substitute for killercane? He's last in score now...

So, were you lobbying to have me replaced when I was 5 points lower [hmm]

akots
14-05-2008, 14:10
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
HE is last in score because the AI attacked me...not because its the AI. And I talked to KC and he said to "go ahead and kill it".


[:o] [smirk] [saiyan]

Matrix
14-05-2008, 14:22
quote:Originally posted by mauer

So, were you lobbying to have me replaced when I was 5 points lower [hmm]
[lol] No. I thought the AI was doing crap, so we'd better have an extra player make the game more interesting. But I guess Robboo's post makes it a different story.

Robi D
14-05-2008, 14:29
quote:Originally posted by Robboo

quote:Originally posted by Matrix

Shouldn't we try to find a substitute for killercane? He's last in score now...


HE is last in score because the AI attacked me...not because its the AI. And I talked to KC and he said to "go ahead and kill it".


Must be nice to be on the other end of a beating for a change[tongue]

mauer
14-05-2008, 14:49
If any of you know someone that would want to jump in and beat up on Robboo then tell them to sign up :D. Is it just me, or does anyone else here like to see Rob get spanked?

Matrix
14-05-2008, 15:39
I already had the honour in RTW2 (http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4868). That was my revenge for the first CFC pitboss (http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3452). Now we're even. ;)

BCLG100
14-05-2008, 16:16
I did it in klammi! anyone that hasn't is a loser!

akots
14-05-2008, 17:46
quote:Originally posted by Matrix
No. I thought the AI was doing crap, so we'd better have an extra player make the game more interesting.


+1

I'd like Matrix to be switched to AI effective immediately. :) As a recompense. Seriously, if KC cannot or does not want, we can try to seek a replacement. Otherwise, we should have played with AI from the very start.

barbu1977
15-05-2008, 04:07
Houston, we have a server down!!!

Robboo
15-05-2008, 05:47
I have taken my share and given my share of beatings... ask Tubby, Whomp, Mauer and Romeo besides those who left before I did in a few pitbosses.

I welcome a human player, but before we do we should ask KC. HE and I had a deal in place that the AI ..voided.

mauer
15-05-2008, 22:59
quote:Originally posted by barbu1977

Houston, we have a server down!!!

Sorry guys, apparently Bodean tried to call me last night but I couldn't be bothered talking to him...lol

BCLG100
15-05-2008, 23:03
So out of spite you put the game down?

barbu1977
16-05-2008, 01:40
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100

So out of spite you put the game down?

[lol]

mauer
16-05-2008, 03:48
LOL! No goober, he tried to call me and tell me the game was down!

IanDC
25-05-2008, 18:15
Can't hold a connection long enough to play the turn atm.

mauer
25-05-2008, 18:36
Shows everything fine on this end. I'll restart the game though from where it's at. That might help some?

IanDC
25-05-2008, 19:45
That fixed it for me thanks - looking at civstats Barbu was having the same problem.

barbu1977
25-05-2008, 21:33
Yes I had, since the game was restarted, yamachi shows green connexion, it showed teal before.

Robi D
28-05-2008, 11:41
server is down...

mauer
28-05-2008, 13:47
Thunderstorms again, putting it up now.

Ian, I think you need to replay your turn. Sorry for the trouble guys.

BCLG100
28-05-2008, 14:01
So who circumfellad the globe?

Matrix
28-05-2008, 14:27
Akots did. Real early!

killercane
28-05-2008, 14:54
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100

He started playing the arboria game again so perhaps he'll start again on this one.

Rob said he was on the verge of killing the AI forever ago? Was this not accomplished?

mauer
28-05-2008, 15:17
Not yet KC, it is Rob...:p

Robboo
29-05-2008, 05:28
No hurry to do it... Got him pretty much surrounded and I will take him out when I feel like it. I am expanding and really dont feel like slaughting my units when I can wait another for another tech to make it easier.

Matrix
29-05-2008, 10:12
Interesting tactic. I wonder whether you're not making it harder on yourself. He's gonna have a huge pile of archers by then.

Robi D
29-05-2008, 10:58
Well that depends on what he means by surrounded. If he has a unit on every tile the city can work the AI wont be able to build much.

But then again this being robboo, it could well mean he lost his attacking force and has to start again

Robboo
29-05-2008, 12:52
quote:Originally posted by Robi D

Well that depends on what he means by surrounded. If he has a unit on every tile the city can work the AI wont be able to build much.

But then again this being robboo, it could well mean he lost his attacking force and has to start again


Every tile is covered....he can only whip and now since he is starved/whipped down to pop 2 He isnt getting much built Soon he will have his water tiles blockaded.

BCLG100
29-05-2008, 13:02
Hammer effective for you...

Robboo
29-05-2008, 13:10
Play your game and I will play mine...
I am typically unit light, not so this time. And I dont even have the most "soldiers" in this game. So at least someone( or more) else must be hammer wasting also.

yes i know it includes pop and techs.

Robi D
29-05-2008, 13:31
Well it may have taken 80 turns but this game's starting to come to life :)

Robboo
29-05-2008, 13:33
quote:Originally posted by Robi D

Well it may have take 80 turns but this game's starting to come to life :)


The terrain is what took it so long.

Robi D
29-05-2008, 13:45
Not for me, my terrains just super!

killercane
29-05-2008, 18:36
quote:Originally posted by Robboo

quote:Originally posted by Robi D

Well it may have take 80 turns but this game's starting to come to life :)


The terrain is what took it so long.

What is wrong with the terrain? The war must have started out warriors vs. Skirmishers for you so when you said I was dead I took your meaning as that, a number of skirmishers vs. a warrior.

Robboo
30-05-2008, 01:58
nah it was axes vs archers.

I meant the map being water rich seemed to limit exploration unless where I am is the exception. And yeah I like my terrain except for a bit of desert.

mauer
03-06-2008, 00:25
I've got to say that there are two piss poor starting positions that I know of on this map. I got one of them, and my neighbor got the other. So those of you who have 4 or more cities already, don't be surprised when you come home and find that you've been booted from the game out of pure spite [:P]

BCLG100
03-06-2008, 01:08
Well at least you've met someone!

am i the only one without contact elsewhere?

IanDC
04-06-2008, 08:22
I have also yet to find proof of life out there.

Robi D
04-06-2008, 11:10
quote:Originally posted by mauer

I've got to say that there are two piss poor starting positions that I know of on this map. I got one of them, and my neighbor got the other. So those of you who have 4 or more cities already, don't be surprised when you come home and find that you've been booted from the game out of pure spite [:P]


Your poor neighbour[tongue]

Robi D
04-06-2008, 11:11
quote:Originally posted by IanDC

I have also yet to find proof of life out there.


Not always a bad thing :D

BCLG100
10-06-2008, 18:51
game seems to have disapeared from hamachi.

mauer
10-06-2008, 22:39
Game is back up.

mauer
10-06-2008, 22:39
Game is back up.

Robi D
11-06-2008, 11:43
quote:Originally posted by mauer

Game is back up.


Game is back down[:p]

mauer
11-06-2008, 17:12
back up, Akots probably needs to replay.

Robi D
14-06-2008, 16:35
I just noticed it this turn (hadn't look at the top cities for a while) but who built the pyramids, great library and great lighthouse all in one city[:o]. That is a hell of an achievement for the first 100 turns of the game.

I would guess Ian or barbu would be the most likely since they are leading the points but i am curious.

BCLG100
14-06-2008, 18:05
Probably the same person who's gnp is like 90 more than anyone else!

mauer
14-06-2008, 20:22
I'm guessing it's the bear.

barbu1977
15-06-2008, 02:36
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100

Probably the same person who's gnp is like 90 more than anyone else!


And it's not me!

Robi D
15-06-2008, 05:39
a stack of archers and axemen on my border, i wonder what they could want?

mauer
15-06-2008, 06:42
Tries to think.....wasn't me???

EDIT: In other news, Rob and I still seem to be battling for that ever sought for title of "Most suckiest". It's a literal tit for tat every turn with the points!

Robi D
15-06-2008, 07:41
quote:Originally posted by mauer

Tries to think.....wasn't me???

EDIT: In other news, Rob and I still seem to be battling for that ever sought for title of "Most suckiest". It's a literal tit for tat every turn with the points!


Obviously its not you otherwise it might take you out of contention for suckiest player[tongue]

Still it does come as a surprise, i wouldn't have thought someone would be in such a rush to take my fields of ice off me

mauer
15-06-2008, 17:50
Maybe it's your holy city.

mauer
20-06-2008, 02:21
Ok, looks like I'm patching for 2 other pitboss games and one PBEM. I'm gonna go ahead and take the game down now so everyone can patch. Please check in when you're patched.

grahamiam
20-06-2008, 02:35
updated

barbu1977
20-06-2008, 03:58
I'll patch only tomorow night...

akots
20-06-2008, 04:37
Patched.

IanDC
20-06-2008, 07:45
Patched & temp dual install.

Robi D
20-06-2008, 09:14
Patched

mauer
20-06-2008, 21:51
Looks like we're just waiting on Nitro and Rob. I believe Rob is gone for the weekend, so if no one has any major qualms then I'll just get it back up and running on Monday.

Robboo
21-06-2008, 14:56
I am back and will patch before noon today. (4 hours from this post). I will email you Cody when I am patched.

I caught enough fish so the first fishing trip ended early. Still wont be here tomorrow due to another trip for a different type of fish but I can play when ever.

mauer
21-06-2008, 18:35
For some reason my "Check Updates" wouldn't work on my host computer. Anyways, I'm using a mirror download atm, so as soon as I finish that and we hear from Nitro we can get the game back up.

nitro1974
21-06-2008, 19:42
I'm patched as well...

mauer
21-06-2008, 20:39
Game is back up now. About 8 hours to play and most of you guys haven't played your turn. Ian, I'm pretty sure you need to play your turn again.

Robboo
22-06-2008, 00:27
Updating now... internet outage here since before noon. IF i missed a turn its not a big deal. :)

IanDC
29-06-2008, 17:22
Game seems to be down atm.

mauer
29-06-2008, 17:33
Game is up now, we had an electrical storm here last night and apparently something got blown....and it wasn't me :(

There's 3 hours + left on the turn, if anyone can't make it let me know.

IanDC
29-06-2008, 18:06
I can get as far as connected to host but not into the game.

akots
29-06-2008, 18:15
Same here.

mauer
29-06-2008, 19:00
Sorry guys, I had some kind of pop up that froze the game. Back on now.

Robboo
01-07-2008, 03:05
mauer emailed me via phone...cant access the web due to internet outage. He will get the game back up as soon as he is able.

grahamiam
01-07-2008, 04:08
the more they overtech the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain

akots
01-07-2008, 06:21
Please leave the game after loading on pause so that everyone can move the turn. It is kind of important because of ongoing wars.

mauer
01-07-2008, 21:54
The game is back up now with 14 hours to play. Is this timing good for you akots? I can go in and pause it if it's not.

akots
01-07-2008, 22:17
Thanks, for me it should be apparently OK.

nitro1974
06-07-2008, 15:36
For some strange reason I can't log off on my brother's pc, but this is Matrix speaking...
...saying 'Goodbye all!' [wavey]

I was planning to run away with a settler of mine, but apparently without a city you get destroyed anyway.

Robi D
07-07-2008, 01:32
[wavey] Farewell Matrix.

I guess you wont be terrorising holy cities in this game

mauer
07-07-2008, 02:00
Just cause you don't have any more cities doesn't mean you have to quit.

akots
07-07-2008, 04:54
For some reason, I cannot log into the game, BtS shuts down with a memory allocation error. Am I the only one experiencing this?

akots
07-07-2008, 05:23
I can connect and play at RtWII PB without any problems. So, something might be wrong either with server or the latest game disposition which only the host can tell. :)

akots
07-07-2008, 07:15
Still cannot connect, so please if possible, pause the game, this move is kind of important. I might try again in the morning and then again at lunchtime but by then, the turn might have been ended.

It stalls after downloading the save somewhere while trying to initialize and comes with runtime c++ error.

IanDC
07-07-2008, 07:49
I just tried it & got the same error.

Robboo
07-07-2008, 13:38
me too.. I can play other pitbosses. just not this one.

Well thats one way to win mauer.. stop everyone else from playing. :)

mauer
07-07-2008, 23:16
Only thing I can see is a Norton virus scan that ran. If someone can try to get in we'll see if it works. If it doesn't, then I'll just reload. Sorry fellas.

EDIT: I was able to get in fine after clearing that mess up. Let me know if there are more problems.

Matrix
07-07-2008, 23:19
quote:Originally posted by Robi D

I guess you wont be terrorising holy cities in this game
Actually, I had a holy city for only few turns before that was destroyed. [lol]

akots
08-07-2008, 01:45
Well, there is a problem since me (and apparently others) was unable to actually move on a previous turn. Well, considering that BCLG is apparently not playing at all recently and IanDC also missed the turn, I can live with that unless somebody declared and razed Rome.

BCLG100
08-07-2008, 01:59
i've been away for a week but i have been waiting to play as well.

mauer
08-07-2008, 02:37
quote:Originally posted by akots

Well, there is a problem since me (and apparently others) was unable to actually move on a previous turn. Well, considering that BCLG is apparently not playing at all recently and IanDC also missed the turn, I can live with that unless somebody declared and razed Rome.

What turn did you miss? I've tried my best to keep the reloads up at the request of others. If anyone misses a turn because of my computer, connection, plumbing is out, car is broke down, or wife is snotty then just let me know and I'll reload. There should be NO problem.

akots
08-07-2008, 07:25
Well, I've already played the next turn, so there is no point in reloading the game and hence the problem had dissipated on its own. I'm not sure about plumbing, cars, wives, and connections up at your place though, so cannot say anything meaningful on the matter.

IanDC
08-07-2008, 07:46
I don't know what the problem was but it seemed that the turn end routine cleared it. I was able to get back in as soon as the turn ticked.

mauer
08-07-2008, 10:28
I just saw that on civstats guys. Ok, next time a reload is needed can someone that can make it clear what they want please post as much? Sorry, but I don't sit around looking at civstats and this forum 24-7 looking for who has and who hasn't been able to log in.

nitro1974
08-07-2008, 11:07
I still can't connect. My turns are not terribly important right now, so it's ok if I miss a turn. But I do have a problem... (not with other pitboss games)

Robi D
08-07-2008, 11:13
quote:Originally posted by Matrix

quote:Originally posted by Robi D

I guess you wont be terrorising holy cities in this game
Actually, I had a holy city for only few turns before that was destroyed. [lol]


I know a couple of people who would smile at that ;)

mauer
08-07-2008, 21:56
quote:Originally posted by nitro1974

I still can't connect. My turns are not terribly important right now, so it's ok if I miss a turn. But I do have a problem... (not with other pitboss games)

I'm restarting my PC.

EDIT: Restarted, if it's not working still then I'm up for suggestions.

barbu1977
09-07-2008, 01:56
I can connect withouth problems.

Stupid question, but have you installed the patch?

Matrix
09-07-2008, 02:02
Check Hamachi, Nitro. (Whether it's on and you're connected to the network.) I might've fiddled with it when I was at your place.

Robi D
09-07-2008, 11:26
Just to check with everyone, i'll be without internet for a few weeks from next tuesday and Matrix has offered to take over for that time.

I don't think that i have met anyone matrix did before his demise so i can't see any issues with him having knowledge of things happening in my part of the world. But if you do have a problem speak now or hold your peace:D

nitro1974
09-07-2008, 20:47
quote:Originally posted by Matrix

Check Hamachi, Nitro. (Whether it's on and you're connected to the network.) I might've fiddled with it when I was at your place.


Hamachi is on and I'm connected to the network. Is that sufficient? Because I still can't connect to the game.

I was wondering if Matrix could play for me, but I skip this request. If Matrix would play for both Robi D and me, we wouldn't have any holy city left in this game.

Matrix
09-07-2008, 21:48
Yes, that should be sufficient.

grahamiam
10-07-2008, 03:33
According to a PM from Mauer, a thunderstorm rolled thru this morning and knocked out his internet connection so that may have been the issue, nitro.

mauer
10-07-2008, 04:14
Nitro PMed me and asked me to give him the boot until he figures this out. Just thought I'd let you guys know.

BCLG100
10-07-2008, 13:49
Nitro i can see you on hamachi if that helps but you time out when i attempt to ping you.

nitro1974
10-07-2008, 14:26
Well... I'm back. I think that McAfee prevents the ping from being answered. Thanks, Mauer, for putting me on AI. There was no damage done.

I'm not sure what the problem was, but it was of the kind: "your configuration has changed, please reinstall windows". Anyhow, removing crap from my pc, and reinstalling Civ4 and Hamachi worked.

Robi D
15-07-2008, 08:06
Just a reminder Matrix will be taking over for me from the next turn for a while, until i get my new internet connected.

I should still be able to check in a couple times a week (when i can get to a friends house) so you can still send me any diplomatic messages, although its probably a good idea to send it to Matrix aswell.

socralynnek
19-07-2008, 16:55
Game is down?

Another thunderstorm?

mauer
19-07-2008, 18:44
No idea what's going on! It's plugged in, no thunderstorm, and no power outages!? The PC won't come on [:S] Don't have time to fiddle with it right now, but will try to work it out in a few hours.

mauer
19-07-2008, 21:34
I'm no expert, but I'd say I'm screwed. PC is plugged in, all cables in order, circuit breaker is fine.........PC won't come on though. Suggestions, comments or ideas are welcome.

grahamiam
19-07-2008, 21:43
Do you get any beeps or any sounds when you try to power up?

mauer
19-07-2008, 21:50
quote:Originally posted by grahamiam

Do you get any beeps or any sounds when you try to power up?
nothing at all

akots
20-07-2008, 04:35
Power supply? Or button or some switch?

mauer
20-07-2008, 06:03
Games back up guys. Not sure what was wrong with the power strip, but I just tried a different one and it worked.

mauer
23-07-2008, 00:56
Just FYI, Bodean will probably be missing his turns for a day or two, or three. He just called me and his wife was in a car accident. Broke several bones and seems ok, but is hospitalized atm. He'll have his hands full with work, the kids, and a hurt wife when she comes home, so be patient with him please. I'll ask him, when the moment seems ok, if he wants me to AI him.

barbu1977
23-07-2008, 02:10
I'll be away from tomorow untill august 1rst.

socralynnek will sub for me.

BCLG100
23-07-2008, 02:15
All my best to mrs bodeon :) don't need to worry about the delays :)

mauer
23-07-2008, 04:36
Anyone able to contact KC? I tried sending him an email through MSN but it didn't go through. Was gonna see if he could sub for a few days for Bodean since he's on our hamachi group.

killercane
23-07-2008, 05:54
quote:Originally posted by mauer

Anyone able to contact KC? I tried sending him an email through MSN but it didn't go through. Was gonna see if he could sub for a few days for Bodean since he's on our hamachi group.

Who me? I would but my Himachi is borked. Cant log into any Himachi games.

mauer
23-07-2008, 06:07
Ah right, I'd forgotten that's why you couldn't get in. Thanks anyways though :)

akots
24-07-2008, 05:13
I cannot connect to CDZ Game network since the network appears to be full (only 16 free members are allowed). I have only this state notebook to play since I'm now in San Antonio. Please, if mauer (who's probably an admin) can delete somebody who already finished playing and is not currently subbing. May be my other account can be deleted and then re-created upon my return. Or may be this is not possible at all. If not, then may be a new network might be created. This is actually a good idea with all Hamachi-based networks. Then, I should be able to join and to play. Otherwise, since I'll be gone for 4 more days, I think that would force me to abandon the game. Meanwhile, I'd ask the host to please pause the game until the issue is resolved.

mauer
24-07-2008, 22:54
Created another network. I tried to boot KC from the network, but it won't let me. Or I can't figure it out at least. I sent you the info in a PM akots.

mauer
25-07-2008, 01:00
From civstats......What in the world does this mean???

7/24/08 5:54 pm socralynnek ???Ärver: Apache/2.0.61 (Unix) PHP/5.2.6 mod Changed name to socralynnek
7/24/08 5:54 pm socralynnek ???Ärver: Apache/2.0.61 (Unix) PHP/5.2.6 mod Finished turn
7/24/08 5:54 pm socralynnek Changed name to socralynnek ???Ärver: Apache/2.0.61 (Unix) PHP/5.2.6 mod

akots
25-07-2008, 05:33
Thanks, that worked out quite well albeit very slowly since second network on free Hamachi comes at 8 Kbps.

akots
26-07-2008, 07:37
Cannot connect via new network, connection timed out every time for the past 2 hours. Still 3 hours to the end of turn. Please, asking again to pause the game. This will be second turn I'm going to miss. Some damage just cannot be repaired. I've set some build queues but workers are not automated and will presumably idle which is very sad.

BCLG100
26-07-2008, 14:28
i can't connect either, though this is with the normal network.

mauer
26-07-2008, 19:12
Unfortunately I can't sit by the computer 24 hours a day and make sure everyone can make their turns. If you miss your turn for a reason other than you just didn't feel like playing it then all you have to do is ask for a reload. Most days I can check this thread, or the PC itself, from 3PM-10PM CST.

However, after checking the PC I have discovered that both the uploader and the game itself are running uninhibited. It looks as though two people have been able to connect since akots last post. My only suggestion would be to try closing hamachi and then reopening. I have another pitboss game that I am in that I have found this solves the problem quite well.

So I'm asking you akots, would you like a reload?

IanDC
26-07-2008, 20:52
I couldn't connect at about the same time as BCLG, there seemed to be something weird with Hamatchi then, I connected ok to 1 game but couldn't to 2.

socralynnek
27-07-2008, 00:48
Couldn't connect earlier today but now it worked fine.

I paused the game again after playing the turn.

BCLG100
27-07-2008, 01:15
Yeah i got in about an hour or so later, i figure it was a hamachi problem as i couldnt get into arboria yet could still ping the host.

akots
27-07-2008, 08:30
I'm fine this time, played the turn finally and set the game back on pause since a few ppl did not move yet. I can live with one turn skipped, it is OK. :) Tomorrow I'm hopefully coming back home and would resume normal gameplay.

nitro1974
27-07-2008, 11:03
Can someone unpause the game for me? I'm in a diplomacy window, and don't know how to get out.

Edit: akots, could you do me the honour of unpausing? [please] I already have asked mauer and Matrix, and everybody seems to have a diplo screen.

mauer
27-07-2008, 17:19
I tried to, but I've got a diplo window up as well.

BCLG100
27-07-2008, 18:03
game is unpaused

Matrix
27-07-2008, 20:51
Only grahamiam has to play his turn, so can it stay unpaused now?

grahamiam
28-07-2008, 00:08
I'm having a lot of trouble with Hamachi. It's actually slower (extremely slow) to connect than to Matrix's game and I constantly get timeouts when trying to log on. It probably takes about 40 minutes for me to play my turn, 30-35 minutes of which are spent just trying to log on.

akots
28-07-2008, 01:41
While in diplo screen, one can unpause by pressing the pause key on keyboard, should work.

grahamiam
28-07-2008, 02:47
Alright, looks like Mauer fixed my issue today [beer1]

mauer
28-07-2008, 04:16
quote:Originally posted by akots

While in diplo screen, one can unpause by pressing the pause key on keyboard, should work.

That doesn't work. Both Nitro and myself tried this.

BCLG100
28-07-2008, 14:09
game seems to be buggered.

mauer
28-07-2008, 22:59
Is there anyone else that wants to host this game? If not then I don't know what we should do. I'm really getting frustrated with this.

socralynnek
28-07-2008, 23:16
what was the problem again? I was able to login fine.

mauer
28-07-2008, 23:23
If it were just one person then I'd tell them to bug off. But it seems that a number of people are having problems logging into the game most of the time that they try. To the point where some have been missing turns. That doesn't really turn out for a high quality competition, and if this continues maybe we should put a hold on the game until we can solve the problem or find another host.

mauer
29-07-2008, 00:39
Sorry ynnek, I had to reload since there were mulitiple people that weren't able to finish their turns.