BCLG100
12-08-2007, 03:20
Ok, so i thought i'd already made one for it but apparantly not. This is gonna be a long post!
Everyone is doing amazingly crap in this game, its gone past 1000AD and the majority (including myself don't even have CS yet), laregely i'd say this is down to small number of people and lots and lots of war. Darkness and Stapel have already been eliminated.
Initially my settler was a tile north west but i saw the gold and wanted it in my phat cross so i moved and got it, things trickled along and i met darkness quite early noticing there was very little gap between our capital cities, rob also appeared to the west of me, settling a city pretty much on my capitals big fat cross. Me=not happy by these events, what made me especially unhappy was that darkness had metals (or he would have when he bothered hooking them up), whilst robbo had iron just outsdie his city that was right on top of me, funnily enough it would have been inside my capitals fat cross if i had of settled immediatly.
Im afraid i only have recent pictures so you'll have to imagine the scene :) city named after me of course :)
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/1072/civ4screenshot0000hx5.jpg
All these problems however paled into comparison when casey who'd had a warrior sniffing around my border for awhile decided to declare war, initially i thought gameover, ahwell it was fun. We however came to a compromise, in return for gifting him two settlers before 0ad (which i later accomplished a few turns later) he would not knock my city out the game but help me crush darkness, who had founded buddhism and a second city south west of his capital- in what he would later learn contain iron and bronze. So then the race was on (at least the race in my head) to settle the horses that was in a midpoint between me and darkness. I eventually got there first but not before his quecha was stuck on the hill next to the city, worried that he could quite easily get rid of my connection to the horses i decided to settle on top. And immediatly started trying to pump out chariots in both cities.
named for the song i was listening to at the time
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/7235/civ4screenshot0001lm4.jpg
My hand was forced when i was unprepared for attack with only 3-4 chariots when i saw darkness planning on settling another city just north of supermassive, it was only guarded by a quecha but i felt i'd much prefer a worker than a pile of rubble and so i moved like pete townshend in a nursery and quickly killed the quecha and took the worker as my prize.
I immediatly moved as many units as i could towards the front, darkness still only had quechas and hadn't hooked up any resources, however whilst i took out his metal city (with a chariot i got from casey and a couple of my own) he discovered archery and due to the tremendous ability for archers to be a complete bastard on top of a hill i was forced to wait another 30 turns before i could attack the city whilst i researched construction and built some cats! However the day soon came (not quick enough in my mind- for my score was staying level whilst everyone around me was growing and growing). I lost i think it was 2 cats and an axe, i had borrowed copper from rob previously in exchange for gold later on in a free thing for about 30 turns- later this'd become a talking point!
Well my prize for taking so long to finish off darkness, metals both iron and copper, two very good cities and a religion fo my very own! hurrah!
Named after my leading lady
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/8406/civ4screenshot0002wk7.jpg
And in honour of the dead
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/3566/civ4screenshot0020pg2.jpg
With barbs on raging it would be a constant problem keeping the east pacified enough for them not to disrupt everything, something i have only just accomplished, one way was to keep a city i would have probably normally razed and then resettled when i could afford the maintenance.
named slightly different that what the barbs called it because i was sleepy that day!
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3248/civ4screenshot0004fh4.jpg
Now we enter the second portion of the game, i was near bottom in score, only above stapel who was getting spit roasted by about 10 different people ;) whereas klammi and robbo seemed to be setting the early pace, both getting a healthy lead, rob through pop and territory and klammi through wonders and tech. Unfortunatly one of the leaders was next to me!
Unfortunate for them that is, i wasn't going to let a potential winner, win next to me! so immediatly after finishing off darkness my attention turned westwards and i started building a military attack road. Then relation between me and rob turned sour, he argued that because i had borrowed copper off him earlier in the game i should think twice about warring with him, i had thought twice, twice and three time and noticed how his power graph was largely down to population and land, so the initial few cities should be pretty easy takes. Then further arguments ensued when he complained i hadnt given him enough time to prepare for an attack even though he had near twenty turns after the conclusion of our peace treaty (copper had been given back to him nearly 50 turns ago).
So then another great war began, first up was his city that had been bugging me for centuries! i was tempted to raze it for its annoyance but decided i should better keep it, it looked to be a reasonable production city, containing a few good hills, iron and horse. Roughly ten turns earlier Rob had founded christianity in one of his cities, that was next to be taken, so far minimal losses everything was going very nicely, i then took his final metal city to the north, he was left with nothing to build but archers. The world was my oyster and i was ready to pound him into dust, i began moving my troops towards his capital, what i saw made me pull up, i had one stack of about 9, mostly cats and another of about 5, mixture of axes/spears and cats. However in his city he had a combination of about 13 units, his remaining archers/axes/and a keshik. I decided to hold up in forests outside his capital, one to the north another to the east.
Then, disaster strikes, the patch comes out and warlords no longer works! im not in control of the situation and during this time rob manages to slay my stack of 9 in the forest, apparantly with quite a few losses, indeed he moved every unit out of the capital to do it, unfortunatly my other stack couldn't have reached it so (thanks again for playing Stapel!!!) Stapel under my orders beat a hasty retreat, the stack of 5 back to the northern city and i started shoring up my defences for what would eventually be a counterattack.
Luckily by this point i'd got machinery and therefore xbows, one of these in each of rob's newly conquered cities was enough to force him to the debating table and after initially telling him he wasn't getting squat back from me we signed a 10 turn peace treaty, leaving me in control of these cities!
Named LOLA cos rob called it NOLA and i didnt understand what it meant! Partytown because every turn is a party in the viking empire!
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/4577/civ4screenshot0007ic1.jpg
And Also the Christian Holy city 'Downtown' in the south.
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/2190/civ4screenshot0006ee4.jpg
Now we come to a point in the story i skipped out to make it easier reading, during the war rob became vassel of klammi therefore getting klammi unintentionally involed in a war, i demanded klammi either gift me the city which rob had given him for vasselship (just north of Partytown) or face the consequences, klammi got back to me saying he'd gift me two settlers instead, i was overjoyed- finally i was able to plug that gap in the east!
So Drunk and Funky were founded, 3 turns later, drunk was razed, damn barbs!
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3369/civ4screenshot0005ru7.jpg
As it was only ten turns of peace and i didnt want to leave a job undone, i immediatly started preparing for war again, having researched engineering i built a treb but before i could build more i was interrupted by what i thought was a double assault by robi d and robboo, robi d's attack surprised me a lot- furthest civ away from me, literally 100 tiles plus. But it meant the stack i'd been saving for rob had to be called away to deal with this threat as he was attacking my capital. His stack of 13 was pretty easily crushed and we signed peace soon after, the only reasoning i can think for it was whatever he wanted to do went wrong, i.e. raze my capital/get a GG/ get rid of obsolete units. However i lost the majority of my siege equipement as he was in forests i suicided about 6 cats against him, which allthough was beneficial to my normal units promos was not so usefull for my attack on rob as i was down to three cats across the empire.
Meanwhile in the North casey, my ally, had made a promising start smashing into klammi (roughly the same time i went into rob) but was now being held as mauer threatened to attack, due to mauers immense production capacity he had to bring the majority of his troops back, whip a load and defend, the last turn he lost one of his best cities when mauer moved a 25 strong stack up against his 15 in the city. I think this is the beginning of the end for him.
So now we reach the present, there's little i can do to help casey, i've got a stack of about twenty healing and ready to head into rob land with 3 cities producing me some mor siege equipement, im waiting till i get a stack of 30+ before moving which is roughly 7 more turns plus 4 moving. So not long to go if all goes to plan.
Due to my beelining for machinery and engineering, i missed out quite a few techs, only recently switching to Hered Rule and theocracy.
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1863/civ4screenshot0008zc4.jpg
What my cities are bulding-
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1129/civ4screenshot0009mh4.jpg
Except for my capital, Supermassive and EM i've been using the whip like and egyptian slave driver so most cities now have a granary/rax/lib if they need one a trading post also (Ub). Partytown and LOLA i now have producing units, theres nothing so sweet i think as having conquered cities produce units to kill their old overlord!
Demographics-
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1486/civ4screenshot0010dq5.jpg
Well im doing reasonably well, i would very much like to see my mfg a lot higher, next turn i should be switching some tiles around in darknessian which should add another 10 and cities growing etc but yeah im reasonably happy, especially with land area and pop means if im left alone in peace i should get quite a lead!
Score graph
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1144/civ4screenshot0011ja1.jpg
Hopefully this will highlight what i was talking about previously with my poor score, I cut it down to 50 turns which will hopefully show more accuratly
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5222/civ4screenshot0012vo5.jpg
basically that massive brown line drop, thats me battering rob but my points have really started to accelerate after peace with him when i could let my cities grow a bit for the first time in the whole game! darknessian especially being usefull, i have also recently agreed a trade with casey in exchange for a prophet im giving him 400 gold, something which the prophet should easily pay me back with a shrine. that coupled with an eventual wall street in there should mean $$$$ for me! [:D}
Bit of current info about rob, his capital
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7907/civ4screenshot0013wi4.jpg
And from what i can make out the only other city i didnt capture
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/8981/civ4screenshot0014mt0.jpg
during the peace i can work out he built another settler as he founded a third city, i havent been able to find it so far. Also, which is most annoying for me, his capital found a source of copper in one of his hills by the capital!
Klammi hearland, got the pyramids and a few other wonders, recently brought out some knights so has got to guilds first which is annoying for those around him i suppose!
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/3599/civ4screenshot0016yo7.jpg
Current leader- Robi D
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/7606/civ4screenshot0017we8.jpg
Recently founded taoism to add to his judaism, other than that is planning on an upcoming war between him and klammmi (klammi allthough at war with casey is planning on invading robi d also!)
Casey's lost city of dantoo, mauer captured it so its still there just i have no units about to go look!
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/5704/civ4screenshot0015gg1.jpg
Mauer heartland,
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/5819/civ4screenshot0018ze4.jpg
Production powerhouse, doing wonders for his military but not so much for his economy, hopefully casey can keep him busy long enough to leave him in a massive hole!
The empire at 1100AD
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4821/civ4screenshot0021ek4.jpg
Im in a the south of the continent, so if i finish off rob should be able to fill it up fairly easily if i want, its just finishing off rob then avoiding a war for awhile which'll be tricky. Anyways sorry about the length, hope it was worth the read. :)
Everyone is doing amazingly crap in this game, its gone past 1000AD and the majority (including myself don't even have CS yet), laregely i'd say this is down to small number of people and lots and lots of war. Darkness and Stapel have already been eliminated.
Initially my settler was a tile north west but i saw the gold and wanted it in my phat cross so i moved and got it, things trickled along and i met darkness quite early noticing there was very little gap between our capital cities, rob also appeared to the west of me, settling a city pretty much on my capitals big fat cross. Me=not happy by these events, what made me especially unhappy was that darkness had metals (or he would have when he bothered hooking them up), whilst robbo had iron just outsdie his city that was right on top of me, funnily enough it would have been inside my capitals fat cross if i had of settled immediatly.
Im afraid i only have recent pictures so you'll have to imagine the scene :) city named after me of course :)
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/1072/civ4screenshot0000hx5.jpg
All these problems however paled into comparison when casey who'd had a warrior sniffing around my border for awhile decided to declare war, initially i thought gameover, ahwell it was fun. We however came to a compromise, in return for gifting him two settlers before 0ad (which i later accomplished a few turns later) he would not knock my city out the game but help me crush darkness, who had founded buddhism and a second city south west of his capital- in what he would later learn contain iron and bronze. So then the race was on (at least the race in my head) to settle the horses that was in a midpoint between me and darkness. I eventually got there first but not before his quecha was stuck on the hill next to the city, worried that he could quite easily get rid of my connection to the horses i decided to settle on top. And immediatly started trying to pump out chariots in both cities.
named for the song i was listening to at the time
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/7235/civ4screenshot0001lm4.jpg
My hand was forced when i was unprepared for attack with only 3-4 chariots when i saw darkness planning on settling another city just north of supermassive, it was only guarded by a quecha but i felt i'd much prefer a worker than a pile of rubble and so i moved like pete townshend in a nursery and quickly killed the quecha and took the worker as my prize.
I immediatly moved as many units as i could towards the front, darkness still only had quechas and hadn't hooked up any resources, however whilst i took out his metal city (with a chariot i got from casey and a couple of my own) he discovered archery and due to the tremendous ability for archers to be a complete bastard on top of a hill i was forced to wait another 30 turns before i could attack the city whilst i researched construction and built some cats! However the day soon came (not quick enough in my mind- for my score was staying level whilst everyone around me was growing and growing). I lost i think it was 2 cats and an axe, i had borrowed copper from rob previously in exchange for gold later on in a free thing for about 30 turns- later this'd become a talking point!
Well my prize for taking so long to finish off darkness, metals both iron and copper, two very good cities and a religion fo my very own! hurrah!
Named after my leading lady
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/8406/civ4screenshot0002wk7.jpg
And in honour of the dead
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/3566/civ4screenshot0020pg2.jpg
With barbs on raging it would be a constant problem keeping the east pacified enough for them not to disrupt everything, something i have only just accomplished, one way was to keep a city i would have probably normally razed and then resettled when i could afford the maintenance.
named slightly different that what the barbs called it because i was sleepy that day!
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3248/civ4screenshot0004fh4.jpg
Now we enter the second portion of the game, i was near bottom in score, only above stapel who was getting spit roasted by about 10 different people ;) whereas klammi and robbo seemed to be setting the early pace, both getting a healthy lead, rob through pop and territory and klammi through wonders and tech. Unfortunatly one of the leaders was next to me!
Unfortunate for them that is, i wasn't going to let a potential winner, win next to me! so immediatly after finishing off darkness my attention turned westwards and i started building a military attack road. Then relation between me and rob turned sour, he argued that because i had borrowed copper off him earlier in the game i should think twice about warring with him, i had thought twice, twice and three time and noticed how his power graph was largely down to population and land, so the initial few cities should be pretty easy takes. Then further arguments ensued when he complained i hadnt given him enough time to prepare for an attack even though he had near twenty turns after the conclusion of our peace treaty (copper had been given back to him nearly 50 turns ago).
So then another great war began, first up was his city that had been bugging me for centuries! i was tempted to raze it for its annoyance but decided i should better keep it, it looked to be a reasonable production city, containing a few good hills, iron and horse. Roughly ten turns earlier Rob had founded christianity in one of his cities, that was next to be taken, so far minimal losses everything was going very nicely, i then took his final metal city to the north, he was left with nothing to build but archers. The world was my oyster and i was ready to pound him into dust, i began moving my troops towards his capital, what i saw made me pull up, i had one stack of about 9, mostly cats and another of about 5, mixture of axes/spears and cats. However in his city he had a combination of about 13 units, his remaining archers/axes/and a keshik. I decided to hold up in forests outside his capital, one to the north another to the east.
Then, disaster strikes, the patch comes out and warlords no longer works! im not in control of the situation and during this time rob manages to slay my stack of 9 in the forest, apparantly with quite a few losses, indeed he moved every unit out of the capital to do it, unfortunatly my other stack couldn't have reached it so (thanks again for playing Stapel!!!) Stapel under my orders beat a hasty retreat, the stack of 5 back to the northern city and i started shoring up my defences for what would eventually be a counterattack.
Luckily by this point i'd got machinery and therefore xbows, one of these in each of rob's newly conquered cities was enough to force him to the debating table and after initially telling him he wasn't getting squat back from me we signed a 10 turn peace treaty, leaving me in control of these cities!
Named LOLA cos rob called it NOLA and i didnt understand what it meant! Partytown because every turn is a party in the viking empire!
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/4577/civ4screenshot0007ic1.jpg
And Also the Christian Holy city 'Downtown' in the south.
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/2190/civ4screenshot0006ee4.jpg
Now we come to a point in the story i skipped out to make it easier reading, during the war rob became vassel of klammi therefore getting klammi unintentionally involed in a war, i demanded klammi either gift me the city which rob had given him for vasselship (just north of Partytown) or face the consequences, klammi got back to me saying he'd gift me two settlers instead, i was overjoyed- finally i was able to plug that gap in the east!
So Drunk and Funky were founded, 3 turns later, drunk was razed, damn barbs!
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3369/civ4screenshot0005ru7.jpg
As it was only ten turns of peace and i didnt want to leave a job undone, i immediatly started preparing for war again, having researched engineering i built a treb but before i could build more i was interrupted by what i thought was a double assault by robi d and robboo, robi d's attack surprised me a lot- furthest civ away from me, literally 100 tiles plus. But it meant the stack i'd been saving for rob had to be called away to deal with this threat as he was attacking my capital. His stack of 13 was pretty easily crushed and we signed peace soon after, the only reasoning i can think for it was whatever he wanted to do went wrong, i.e. raze my capital/get a GG/ get rid of obsolete units. However i lost the majority of my siege equipement as he was in forests i suicided about 6 cats against him, which allthough was beneficial to my normal units promos was not so usefull for my attack on rob as i was down to three cats across the empire.
Meanwhile in the North casey, my ally, had made a promising start smashing into klammi (roughly the same time i went into rob) but was now being held as mauer threatened to attack, due to mauers immense production capacity he had to bring the majority of his troops back, whip a load and defend, the last turn he lost one of his best cities when mauer moved a 25 strong stack up against his 15 in the city. I think this is the beginning of the end for him.
So now we reach the present, there's little i can do to help casey, i've got a stack of about twenty healing and ready to head into rob land with 3 cities producing me some mor siege equipement, im waiting till i get a stack of 30+ before moving which is roughly 7 more turns plus 4 moving. So not long to go if all goes to plan.
Due to my beelining for machinery and engineering, i missed out quite a few techs, only recently switching to Hered Rule and theocracy.
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1863/civ4screenshot0008zc4.jpg
What my cities are bulding-
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1129/civ4screenshot0009mh4.jpg
Except for my capital, Supermassive and EM i've been using the whip like and egyptian slave driver so most cities now have a granary/rax/lib if they need one a trading post also (Ub). Partytown and LOLA i now have producing units, theres nothing so sweet i think as having conquered cities produce units to kill their old overlord!
Demographics-
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1486/civ4screenshot0010dq5.jpg
Well im doing reasonably well, i would very much like to see my mfg a lot higher, next turn i should be switching some tiles around in darknessian which should add another 10 and cities growing etc but yeah im reasonably happy, especially with land area and pop means if im left alone in peace i should get quite a lead!
Score graph
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1144/civ4screenshot0011ja1.jpg
Hopefully this will highlight what i was talking about previously with my poor score, I cut it down to 50 turns which will hopefully show more accuratly
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5222/civ4screenshot0012vo5.jpg
basically that massive brown line drop, thats me battering rob but my points have really started to accelerate after peace with him when i could let my cities grow a bit for the first time in the whole game! darknessian especially being usefull, i have also recently agreed a trade with casey in exchange for a prophet im giving him 400 gold, something which the prophet should easily pay me back with a shrine. that coupled with an eventual wall street in there should mean $$$$ for me! [:D}
Bit of current info about rob, his capital
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7907/civ4screenshot0013wi4.jpg
And from what i can make out the only other city i didnt capture
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/8981/civ4screenshot0014mt0.jpg
during the peace i can work out he built another settler as he founded a third city, i havent been able to find it so far. Also, which is most annoying for me, his capital found a source of copper in one of his hills by the capital!
Klammi hearland, got the pyramids and a few other wonders, recently brought out some knights so has got to guilds first which is annoying for those around him i suppose!
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/3599/civ4screenshot0016yo7.jpg
Current leader- Robi D
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/7606/civ4screenshot0017we8.jpg
Recently founded taoism to add to his judaism, other than that is planning on an upcoming war between him and klammmi (klammi allthough at war with casey is planning on invading robi d also!)
Casey's lost city of dantoo, mauer captured it so its still there just i have no units about to go look!
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/5704/civ4screenshot0015gg1.jpg
Mauer heartland,
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/5819/civ4screenshot0018ze4.jpg
Production powerhouse, doing wonders for his military but not so much for his economy, hopefully casey can keep him busy long enough to leave him in a massive hole!
The empire at 1100AD
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4821/civ4screenshot0021ek4.jpg
Im in a the south of the continent, so if i finish off rob should be able to fill it up fairly easily if i want, its just finishing off rob then avoiding a war for awhile which'll be tricky. Anyways sorry about the length, hope it was worth the read. :)