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And my first BTS game is underway. Its pretty much the default settings with Tech trading off. The map size is standard and the player count is 18 so there is bound to be a few wiped out early on. Here is the line up;
Truronian - Sitting Bull, Native America
BCLG100 - Joao II, Portugal
Robi_D - Pericles, Greece
Classical_Hero - Zara Yaqob, Ethiopia
VRWCAgent - Charlemagne, Holy Rome
ohcrapitsnico - Saladin, Arabia
BirraImperial - Bismarck, North Dakota
ComradeDavo - Tokugawa, Japan
Dandridge - Darius, Persia
Azzaman - Pacal II, Maya
killercane - Justinian, Byzantium
Little Corporal - Napoleon, France
Robboo - Hannibal, Carthage
Whomp/Tubby - Mansa Musa, Mali
Stapel - Ragnar, Vikings
taillesskangaru - Suvayarman, Khmer
IglooDude - Boudica, Celtia
Socralynnek - Huayna Capac, Inca
I chose to go with Greece out of tradition. Bascially going all the way back to Civ 1 some 17 years ago my first game has been with Greece so why stop now. And with Pericles being the new leader avilable for the Greeks i figured i'd give him a go.
And here is my start.
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/8163/gre4000b1jr1.th.jpg (http://img356.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gre4000b1jr1.jpg)
I got myself a nice little peninsular of my own with some wool and fur, which should come in handy in winter since i can see iceburgs off my coast.
AH was a pretty obvious choice for research since i have lots of sheep and the warrior again is obvious since i currently have no and don't wish to rely on the charity of others.
So far my BTS experience is limited so i'll be learning as much as i will be working out strageies and tactics. For now i'm off to explore what beyond my little peninsular
3920BC
We are a couple of turns in now. I have a tiny peninsular with 2 sheep, 2 furs and marble. My scout made it to the mainland and i don't like what i see. French borders a couple of tiles away so i'm going to have to race out a settler to avoid being blocked in, or hopefully i find some copper and take him out early.
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4647/gre3920b1ea2.th.jpg (http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gre3920b1ea2.jpg)
3680 BC
Just continued to explore my surroundings a bit more. And if having the French close by was bad enough, the Germans are right next door.
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/1747/gre3680b1vd6.th.jpg (http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gre3680b1vd6.jpg)
Basically i have space for 2 cities. If the rest of the map is this roomy i expect it will get real nasty real soon
Pastorius
19-08-2007, 11:53
Nice choice of civ/leader :)
3440BC
I ran into a Khmer scout and the Mali border.
Whomp and Tubby who are playing as the Mali seem keen to reach an agreement where the other 3 have been non responsive to even a hello.
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/7356/gre3440b1um1.th.jpg (http://img250.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gre3440b1um1.jpg)
2460BC
Haven't given an update for a while. A few things have happened. First the random events were nice to me. Apparantly some wild dogs have been domesticated and sold as pets so the sheep tile being worked gives me an extra gold :)
I finished BW only to find that i have no copper near me to go along with the lack of horses. I've made a deal with whomp/Tubby. We are going to join forces and get rid of the French and Germans. They are looking at teaming up with a third so we can take control of our island.
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/484/gre2640b1rx6.th.jpg (http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gre2640b1rx6.jpg)
2200BC
I have a set deal with Whomp/Tubby and Killercane. The three of us are going to work together to take control of this island. The first step is France. Whomp has agreed to raise the city so i can grab the copper to the north which will let me go after Germany. For this attack i'm playing support since i have only archers and warrior.
Also i'm told the HRE is in the area as well but i'm yet to meet them. I've hooked up all the resources near Robigrad which has lifted my economy, i'm 5th in GNP, 2nd in Production.
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1139/gre2200b1gz3.th.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gre2200b1gz3.jpg)
2000 BC
The baldies made quick work of the french. Paris fell in the space of 2 turns. Complete kills is on so you can see the french settler trying to get away but there is not much hope for him really. I'm looking to get my second city now
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/9194/gre2000b1aj8.th.jpg (http://img125.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gre2000b1aj8.jpg)
1400 BC
Its been a while since the last update.
As you can see i got my second city up and running with a third on the way soon.
Also my vote for noob of the week goes to germany. Why on earth you would send a settler unescorted is beyond me[lol]
While i wanted some more troops before going to war i wasn't going to pass up the oppertunity to take it. My new worker is with the Axe which is a gift from my good friends whomp and tubby:D
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/1563/gre1400b1yi3.th.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gre1400b1yi3.jpg)
1140 BC
I've moved up to his capital. He has 3 archers and a warrior so i'm going to need some more units. Also got another worker he had just sitting on a hill
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8066/gre1120b1oi2.th.jpg (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gre1120b1oi2.jpg)
950 BC
Ok imagine this. Your under attack and in trouble. You have only one city with 3 archers and a warrior to defend it. Your surrounded by 2 warriors, 2 axes. You see 3 archers and 2 chariots on their way to join them. What do you build next.
A) An archer. Make the city a near fortress because if your going down you take anything you can with you.
B) A warrior. They are cheaper so you can build more. Make the city a near fortress because if your going down you take anything you can with you.
or C)http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/4650/gre0950b1wd4.th.jpg (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gre0950b1wd4.jpg)
Yes if you look closely at the bottom left of the picture you will see a settler has joined the 3 archers and warrior.
The only thing i can think of is he is planning to do a runner. Complete kills is on so its possible except there is one problem, he has nowhere to go. So i guess i'll be thanking him for his donation of a 3rd worker when its finished.
Also i built my 3rd city, which i named Chrome Dome. That is because i'll be gifting it to whomp/tubby when i'm done with Germany. I came to a deal with them. Since i'm crative my culture would cripple Balding frogs in no time but i needed the copper. In return they will gift me a settler so i'll be able to take the copper near germany for myself. So overall everything is running to plan. Killercane the third part of our alliance is kicking ass down south on the Khmer. Looks like we will have this area to ourselves in no time:D
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3874/gre0950b2ep3.th.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gre0950b2ep3.jpg)
875 BC
He tried to make a run for it. 2 archers went with the settler while the other archer and warrior stayed back. That just made my job real easy. I lost one warrior in the attack on berlin and no taking out the traveling party. Not bad days work for a city and worker.:D
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2254/gre0875b1sm8.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gre0875b1sm8.jpg)
He must have had a scout or warrior exploring somewhere because he is not dead but he wont be causing and more problems. Now its time to get some infrastructure.
400BC
Its been a while since an update. Not much happening for me at the moment. With Germany gone and casey beating up on tailesskangaru(Khmer) that he only has one city left i'll have all friendly borders around me. The economy isn't the best so that my main focus along with settling what spare space is left. I have 2 location to do, one next to the horses which tubby/whomp will give me a settler for and an island location just off the khmer coast. I can build the maoi stutes there to get decent production. I'm beelining Literture for the Great Library. I figure since i have marble i have a decent shot at it.
I found out that casey and whomp are currently attack commanddave so we are quickly get rid of the competition on this island. Apparently the other island is engaged in all out warfare too from some of the posts in the open thread over at the cfc. Here is a look at my current status.
http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/8996/gre0400b1tc7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
225BC
Had something interesting come up. Never had it before but i've been given a quest to build 7 libraries, also get a bonus for the GLib
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8445/gre0225b1mv0.th.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gre0225b1mv0.jpg) http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6460/gre0225b2kc2.th.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gre0225b2kc2.jpg)
I have no idea what to expect so has anyone had one of these come up? What type of award am i looking at? Also do i need to get the GLib built before the 7th library to get the bonus?
Also i've had to find a spot for city 7 since i need 7 libraries. I have a settler on the other 2 spots ready for next turn.
225 AD
Its been a while since the last update, although nothing to dramatic has happend in the meantime.
As it was killercane answer my query about the quest in a thread for another game.
quote:Classic Literature
Prereq: WRITING
Obsolete: NATIONALISM or PRINTING_PRESS or EDUCATION or GUNPOWDER or ASTRONOMY
Active/Weight: 20/500
Aim:
Build default number of players for this world size libraries (7 for standard)
Result:
1.+2 research in one (triggering) city's library
2.get one ancient era tech
3.IF you control the Great Library wonder gain +1 scientist specialist for this wonder
Therefore it is somewhat of an irony the he ended up beating me to the Great Library by one turn[rolleyes], which seems to happen all too often, like why not 3 or 5 turns, why does it have to be bloody 1 turn. I still can get my quest done, i'll have all my libraries in place in 8 turns.
Also i have a great prophet. I'm considering using him for a GA once the libraries are done because my economy is bad and needs a kick start. Here is the nation
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/3497/gre0250a1zh2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
This brings me to the demographics and the GNP in particular. Its 6th out of the 13 remaining civs but look at where first is. A difference of 200 per turn is huge at this stage. My only comfort is that this seems to be killercane and that a lot of his GNP is coming from culture points produced by his many wonders. Still it doesn't account for all of it.
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/8384/gre0250a2ck8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
As for the rest of the island, i've pretty much explored the limits. I do not have an open border with ComradeDave of Japan and VRWCAgent of HRE. Whomp and killercane seem to have nearly finished Japan off though so apart from us 3 there is only the HRE and Socralynnek's Inca left. It a bit hard to tell the difference in colour but Incas are bottom centre and HRE bottom right.
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8310/gre0250a3xj2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
500AD
I've had a busy last couple of turns. I finshing my quest, so i'm getting an extra 2 beakers per turn in Robigrad. I also started a golden age with my great prophet. I also got a great scientist which i used for mathematics.
I've used the no anarchy during the GA to make confucianism the offical religion and to switch to Heritary rule after i finished monarchy. I also deleted my 5 chariots, they were just costing me upkeep and by the time i might be going to war would be useless.
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9747/gre0500a1zj5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
With the GA the demographics are looking better. The main thing now is building up my economy since i have long term deals with whomp/tubby and casey, both are well ahead tech wise and i'm going to have to start making inroads.
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3514/gre0500a2nd0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6797/gre0500a3yr0.th.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gre0500a3yr0.jpg)
940AD
I've been a bit slack of late but here is an update finally. This game for me is all over in terms of winning. Killercane decided to change tactics and has attacked whomp/tubby. Whomp did allow me to take the his two northern cities (one i gifted, the other i assisted in taking off the french, however casey beat me to the former french one.
He is on the verge of being unstoppable. I really don't know how he has managed it but he is just getting further ahead (of everyone, not just me) no matter what. Now my deal end with him in 1500 AD, and i am at his mercy. He is a whole generation ahead of me in weaponry (archers,axes,horses vs longbows,maces/knights) so i'll really continue existing only if he wishes to keep me around.
Anyway here is a look at the situation.
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1440/gre0940a1xf0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Perhaps you should speak to ynnek?
Also you've still got quite a bit of forest to chop, your best bet is getting optics and somehow astronomy to get everyone to team up against him.
Ynnek fighting VRWC and from what i've seen both of them are a similar level to me. I can only hope since both of them are closer to his capital he would go after them first, but it doesn't really matter as far as winning goes. Azzaman seems to be in a similar position on the other continent but its hard to say with no contact as yet. But even with Caravels they can't bring anything across until astronomy.
1420 AD
Its been a long time since i last updated this game. The main reason being not much has happened.
I made a deal with killercane to the end of the game, which he also did with Socralynnek, so its locked into a 3 civ continent.
The main reason for this was he was offering and i am way way behind in just about every aspect, so i decided i would use this as a practise game since i really haven't got a full handle of BTS and i don't have much time to play these days. I also got a city out of it so that was nice of him:D
Here is a view of my nation. You can see we have been trading maps and can see most of the world.
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1459/gre1440a1kj6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
And here are the demographics
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1235/gre1440a2tz4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Lots of 5th and 6th on there, which is pretty much last. There are 9 civs left, but one is just a unit running around no one has killed (complete kills are on) and Arabia and Celtia are 4 city civs that are currently under AI control. Arabia has been the whole game since the guy never showed, also its got mostly ice and tundra. ID was playing the Celts up until his recently but is on a small island. So really there is only 6 main civs.
For some fun since i don't have much to do i'm launching an invasion of the Celt island. KC has beaten me to it but we have an agreement to share cities.
The game is not over yet. While you're in a 3-way alliance, you can still try to persuade other civs to attack Justinian I. [smirk]
1560AD
I was all set to collect a few cities off ID's little civ when dandridge threw a spanner into the works. I landed on the western point of the island to find he had taken a city KC had captured. Now for whatever reason he thought was good he figured it would hurt KC if he got me out of the way. What the sneaky bastard did, was gift the city back to ID, who i hadn't met so wasn't at war with, this kicked my troops off the island and next to his city on another continent. To top it off he sunk all my galleons so there was no going anywhere, then has the nerve to say i should join him against KC. Yeah right after doing everything possible to piss me off i'm going to help you, i don't think so.
Here is a look at my nation i'm still plodding along. I'm about level with Stapel and i can see almost all his cities, definately worth considering something there in the future
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/8649/gre1560a1qy9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2969/gre1560a2qh3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3854/gre1560a3kc2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Getting back to Dan, KC has provided me with some upgrades to my units and some airships which are really handy. Now instead of going the the direct way i though i'd see if the back door is open, it will be interesting to see if there is anything in his capital:D
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7483/gre1560a4ao3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Ooo... Let us know how this ends. ;)
Well his capital isn't empty but it also isn't a fortress
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2955/gre1570a1bn0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Its takeable (and razeable[evil]) but it also depends on what else he has lying around. I sent him an offer of leaving his capital intact and a peace deal for 1000 gold. I figure if he takes it i can just go a few tiles south and attack stapel
He was just able to get enough back there, but it was worth a try
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7667/gre1575a1vo2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
1680 AD
With Killercanes growing lead and a growing amount of players going to AI for various reasons there was an agreement to call the game and give KC the win.
I grabbed some screenshots before the end.
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/4121/gre1675a1ec1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/1482/gre1675a2gz5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1571/gre1675a3od0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5459/gre1675a4jr2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Can't really say it was one of my better games. Didn't have the best starting spot, i was closed in on my little peninsular and had to fight my way out in a drawn out war with Germany very early on.
From there i was always behind and never caught up. I also haven't gotten completely to grips with BTS because the economy especially was a bit of a struggle to get going which i have had an issue with in some other BTS games
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