FC Twisters (225337)

[failedreality]

Thought I would post up my team since I just got it..

I will edit this post with the team members shortly..

Hopefully I can make something out of this team I got :)


*** Also give credit to Mauer for telling me about this site and hattricks ***

[Tubby Rower]

hi and welcome to CDZ... you need to tell us a bit about you since we've had a ton of spmabots. Otherwise we could just delete you :D post your team and we'll attempt to help

[Shabbaman]

Show us the team! Otherwise we'll spam your team thread! Oh, and welcome to CDZ.

[failedreality]

Hold on, Hold on, I'm working and cannot make miracles that fast.. lol

[failedreality]

Boyd Lindley
TSI = 930 , 23 years, weak form
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: poor Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: poor
Winger: weak Defending: passable
Scoring: passable Set pieces: weak

Bud Hanley
TSI = 500 , 26 years, inadequate form
Has poor experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: poor Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: weak Passing: weak
Winger: weak Defending: solid
Scoring: weak Set pieces: solid

Clair Regan
TSI = 230 , 24 years, weak form
Has poor experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: weak Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: weak
Winger: poor Defending: wretched
Scoring: inadequate Set pieces: poor

Denis Ly
TSI = 140 , 25 years, poor form
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: wretched Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: solid
Winger: poor Defending: wretched
Scoring: wretched Set pieces: solid

Don Hutchinson
TSI = 100 , 25 years, poor form
Has disastrous experience and disastrous leadership abilities [Powerful]

Stamina: inadequate Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: weak
Winger: poor Defending: poor
Scoring: weak Set pieces: wretched

Donny Brownlee
TSI = 10 , 26 years, weak form
Has weak experience and inadequate leadership abilities

Stamina: disastrous Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: weak Defending: weak
Scoring: poor Set pieces: solid

Donny Schwab
TSI = 0 , 52 years, poor form
Has formidable experience and inadequate leadership abilities

Stamina: wretched Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: wretched Defending: disastrous
Scoring: wretched Set pieces: wretched

Garth Carrillo
TSI = 190 , 25 years, poor form
Has poor experience and poor leadership abilities [Unpredictable]

Stamina: inadequate Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: inadequate
Winger: inadequate Defending: wretched
Scoring: weak Set pieces: inadequate

Guy Phipps
TSI = 400 , 23 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: inadequate Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: poor
Winger: inadequate Defending: weak
Scoring: inadequate Set pieces: inadequate

Herschel Tripp
TSI = 360 , 26 years, weak form
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: poor Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: inadequate
Winger: inadequate Defending: inadequate
Scoring: inadequate Set pieces: inadequate

James Mann
TSI = 1 110 , 23 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and poor leadership abilities [Head]

Stamina: weak Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: passable
Winger: inadequate Defending: inadequate
Scoring: inadequate Set pieces: wretched

Lucas Hinkle
TSI = 220 , 27 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and poor leadership abilities

Stamina: inadequate Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: poor
Winger: wretched Defending: inadequate
Scoring: weak Set pieces: weak

Nate Hall
TSI = 0 , 18 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities

Stamina: poor Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: disastrous
Winger: poor Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set pieces: wretched

Nathaniel Quarles
TSI = 470 , 21 years, poor form
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities [Quick]

Stamina: disastrous Keeper: weak
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: wretched
Winger: disastrous Defending: wretched
Scoring: wretched Set pieces: passable

Nicholas Sloan
TSI = 250 , 26 years, weak form
Has poor experience and wretched leadership abilities

Stamina: weak Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: poor
Winger: disastrous Defending: poor
Scoring: weak Set pieces: wretched

Paul Gilbert
TSI = 90 , 27 years, inadequate form
Has poor experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: wretched Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: poor Passing: wretched
Winger: passable Defending: weak
Scoring: wretched Set pieces: passable

Paul Riggins
TSI = 210 , 21 years, poor form
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities [Technical]

Stamina: solid Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: weak Passing: poor
Winger: weak Defending: weak
Scoring: inadequate Set pieces: inadequate

Porter Bergman
TSI = 180 , 23 years, wretched form
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: poor Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: inadequate
Winger: wretched Defending: poor
Scoring: weak Set pieces: solid

Randy Shockley
TSI = 180 , 20 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities

Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: poor
Winger: weak Defending: weak
Scoring: inadequate Set pieces: inadequate

Rick Coats
TSI = 120 , 21 years, wretched form
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities

Stamina: inadequate Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: weak
Winger: poor Defending: inadequate
Scoring: poor Set pieces: passable

[akots]

Wow! Texas is coming to CDZ full throttle! Welcome, failedreality!

[mauer]

Not only that, but he lives near where I work.....or where I show up for work anyways.

Oh yeah, get this guy a forum so we can serve him some high quality pork based products.

[Tubby Rower]

To be honset... your starting squad isn't that hot. There's only like one or two players that are good. There's a bunch that could play for a while, but will need to be replaced before you finish next season.

Forward
Boyd Lindley (passable scoring ; passable defending, inadequate PM) -play him defensively
Clair Regan (inadeq scoring ; inadeq PM)
Guy Phipps (inadeq scoring, winger, PM)

Central Defender
Bud Hanley
Rick Coats

wing back
Donny Brownlee (weak winger & defending but does have solid SP) - you'd want to replace him soon though
Herschel Tripp (inadeq defending, winger, & passing)

winger
Garth Carillo (inadeq winger & passing)
Paul Gilbert (passable winger)

Inner Midfielder
James Mann - all around inadeq
Lucas Hinkle - inadeq PM & defending
Nicholas Sloan - passable PM

Goal Keeper
Nathaniel Quarles - you'd want to upgrade him

Useless (in my opinion)
Denis Ly (solid passing and solid SP but no main skill) maybe could sell him, but I doubt it
Don Hutchinson
Nate Hall
Paul Riggins
Randy Shockley

Coach
Donny Schwab

[failedreality]

Thank you for the input... [beer1]

[BCLG100]

[spam]

hope that helps :) otherwise you'll be the one to rival me for the BCLGaward.

[failedreality]

Ok so here are my last 3 matches.
Not good at all.
I think it will take awhile to figure this one out..

Played Matches
7/2/2007 (League): fc twisters - Crest 1 - 3
7/5/2007 (Friendly): fc twisters - Henry's Sporting Club 1 - 5
7/12/2007 (Friendly): Wind Riders - fc twisters 9 - 0

[sz_matyas]

As far as the friendlies go, that isn't a bad sign. It means you are getting better teams to challenge you, which leads to higher attendance. If you play friendlies only in the USA challenge better teams to play at their arena, since it doesn't cost you anything, they probably are more likely to accept and they may have some VIP seats looking to get filled.

Biggest tips at this point:
1) Decide what you are going to train and use you starting money to buy decent (passable/solid/excellent) players for all positions and young players with this level at that position. I'd buy now as players are slightly cheaper in the offseason, though not terribly so.
2) The worthless players (listed by Tubby above) should be fired, you are paying them and they don't help your team one bit
3) Get a new coach, I would suggest passable trainer/poor leadership. Training is one of the best ways to improve your team/make money at this stage, especially since your attendance isn't going to carry the day.

Best of luck and hopefully you get it figured out before too long

[Shabbaman]

Everything in due time. First, change your lineup to something more useful. Did you already install a program like hattrick organizer? And reat the platypus guide? If you read the platypus guide (at hottrick.org), you need everything you need to know.

[failedreality]

Thanks
I will check into all those you listed.

thanks

~fr

[failedreality]

ok well not that it's big news or anything, but I did finally finish all my challenges to get my diploma. ha lol

[Aggie]

Congrats!

[failedreality]

Ok got a couple new players..
Nothing major but better than what I had..


1. Miguel Ángel Viana [1 booking accumulated]
TSI = 960 , 27 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and inadequate leadership abilities [Quick]

Stamina: formidable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: inadequate
Winger: passable Defending: inadequate
Scoring: poor Set pieces: passable

2. Ove Neergard [1 booking accumulated]
TSI = 920 , 25 years, poor form
Has poor experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: excellent Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: wretched
Winger: poor Defending: weak
Scoring: passable Set pieces: weak

3. Rapolas Viktorovas
TSI = 290 , 21 years, passable form
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: poor Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: wretched
Winger: inadequate Defending: passable
Scoring: weak Set pieces: wretched

[Shabbaman]

What are you going to train?

[failedreality]

Since I really wasn't sure the best thing to do, I have it set at 93% Defending

Stamina training share is 5%

i also picked up a new coach per another suggestion earlier in the thread..

Should I switch training often, or every season?

[sz_matyas]

I would suggest that you use 100% intesity regardless of training type. As far as how often you should switch training, that depends on your goal. If you are training for cash usually you don't switch training that often as you want to sell players right when they get a skill increase and most players get skill increases at different times.

If you are training to improve your team then you switch training when your players hit the desired skill level and move on to the next area of your team that needs help. Regardless of the style you will likely maintain a single type of training for well over a season. (The new coach will really help your training out though so that was a solid investment)

[failedreality]

Just added a pretty good forward, well better than what I had in the same position. was a 1.7 this guy is a 3.0
And just in time for my cup match here in a few hours..

Hope he makes an impact..
=)

[Aggie]

Well, a good try but your opponent had a stronger team. You did better than I did anyway!

[failedreality]

Update: Things are looking ok for now. Won the first league game 2-0 and tonight won a friendly 5-1. I think I have bought 3 good players to add to the team, not to mention that when I first got the team I had players out of position. Looking up.. However don't think I will make it first in the league, but hope to make a run for 2nd this season..

[sz_matyas]

Looks like you're off to a decent start and your league is pretty weak, so things just might work out for you. Something you might want to do is change your formation so that you can train the maximum number of players. If defense maybe use a 5-4-1 for example or 3-5-2 if playmaking.

Also don't get too anxious to promote as the teams in div V are much, much better than you. Build a solid team where you are against good competition and keep adding fans.

[Tubby Rower]

I would argue that you need at least 2-3 seasons in div 6 of US before you promote. That way you can build up your team. I promoted after exactly 3 seasons and ended up in the weakest div 5 league and barely squeaked out a 4th place position. I'm hopefully going to better this season, but you never know.

[failedreality]

Well after the 2nd league game, I'm pretty bruised up, however I have won 2 straight and the only team that has 0 goals against. I'm sitting in 2nd place at the moment. I know the season is early and all, but pretty happy so far.

[Tubby Rower]

congrats. you might want to hire a few doctors and then when everyone is healed wait until friday/saturday to fire them. Then take get the same amount of physiotherapists to make injuries less when they happen.

[failedreality]

Tubby.. Question, so how long do the docs stay on for the week? You say fire them. Is this a rapid way to heal the players?


Also here is my current league look:

1. Cult of the Dark Sk 3 21 - 1 9
2. fc twisters 3 8 - 2 6
3. tigres usa 3 8 - 8 6
4. Berkshire County Cr 3 9 - 10 6
5. Irish Dragons 3 7 - 8 3
6. Someseni Eagles 3 9 - 13 3
7. Crest 3 3 - 8 3
8. FC Merenge 3 0 - 15 0

[Tubby Rower]

they stay until you fire them. But the thing is that if you fire them on Monday and then get some back on the payroll if people injured in your friendly, you would pay twice for them.

Essentially this is the way it works... (for other specialists too)

1. hire doctors any time during the week (you do not pay for them yet)
2. doctors have their effect every night at the update
3. if the doctor stays until the economic update Saturday night -> you pay $1500 per doctor
4. when you fire them -> you pay the $1500 for the week when you fire them

So you see if you do #1 then everyone is healed on Monday, you fire them (#4-$$), then get someone critical hurt in your friendly you get more doctors (#1), then the economic update comes (#3-$$). You'd pay double for the doctors just that week.

So always wait until after your friendly to fire doctors as you'd have to pay for them anyway.


RE: your league.... looks like a tight league. Good luck.

[failedreality]

Thanks for the information

[failedreality]

Ok another league game down.. Played the #1 spot and lost pretty bad.. 0-4... Which puts me now down to 3rd place..
Also my 2 forwards\attackers are BOTH out for 4 Weeks,.. WTF..
Now I'm screwed.. But the good news is I had over 9000 peeps in attendance and thats a new high for the stadium so pleased about that..
Also one of my wingers is still out for 1 more week.. ugh..

[failedreality]

Current standings and total points for the season..

1. Cult of the Dark Sk 39
2. fc twisters 28
3. tigres usa 28
4. Berkshire County Cr 22
5. Lakewood Dynamo 21
6. Crest 14
7. Irish Dragons 7
8. Someseni Eagles 6

Trying to start to pick up some more players and get more talent
on the team..

[BCLG100]

nice one, FR i finished one point above the relegation zone my first season.

[failedreality]

well im sure that half the team in my division here were not controlled...
But for my first full season I have to say that I think I did pretty good..

[sz_matyas]

An impressive first season to say the least. Just don't get over ambitious and try climbing too fast (3-5 seasons in div VI isn't a bad thing). Soon you'll be able to join everyone else and beat BCLG in the CDZ cup.

[arne1]

quote:Originally posted by sz_matyas

An impressive first season to say the least. Just don't get over ambitious and try climbing too fast (3-5 seasons in div VI isn't a bad thing). Soon you'll be able to join everyone else and beat BCLG in the CDZ cup.

Stop picking on BCLG, that is tubby's job.

[failedreality]

quote:Originally posted by sz_matyas

An impressive first season to say the least. Just don't get over ambitious and try climbing too fast (3-5 seasons in div VI isn't a bad thing). Soon you'll be able to join everyone else and beat BCLG in the CDZ cup.


yeah i figured I would be here a few seasons trying to get figure everything out. I'm pretty content with the team at the moment....

[Robboo]

I will not take it easy on you this week...( as long as I get a keeper before our game)

[failedreality]

ha, no problem, I think I have lost everygame in our cup here anyways... :)

[failedreality]

Well this last season I placed 2nd. The season prior was 2nd or 3rd so with a little work I might be able to promote next season, barring any real injuries...

I also just signed up as a supporter so I get all these cool new features I dont know anything about..
I will post some new team info later on...

[BCLG100]

FR- what are you training? im looking at your squad but can't seem to see anything that your training. Perhaps this season you could focus on getting that up and running?

[failedreality]

Most of last season it was scoring..

Training really confuses me..
Im at 100% and 10% is stamina...

[Aggie]

If you want to train it pays to stick to one type for a long time. It might be worthwhile for you to train playmaking. That way the core of your team grows and grows and grows for 3 or 4 seasons.

If you would choose PM training I'd do the following:
- buy solid 17 y.o. PM's with nice passing (inad or higher). Also nice subskills are forward and defense.
- train them until they are 21 y.o. By then you'l have a very strong group of Playmakers of which you can sell a couple.
- Myself I'm training 100% with 15% stamina during the season. During season break I'm training general with a bigger part (30%) stamina.

If you don't have the money for solid 17 y.o. you might also look for passable 17 y.o. PM's with nice passing or solid/excellent 18 y.o. with nice passing.

I have made a lot of money training winger myself. This however is slightly more difficult than training PM, which is more straightforward.

[BCLG100]

If you train scoring (which is what i do) then you'd be advised to play a 3-4-3 lineup as that gives you the most amount of training for your money.

If you go playmaking like aggie suggests then perhaps play 3-5-2 or 4-5-1 whicever you prefer anything to add an extra IM to the pack.

[Aggie]

quote:Originally posted by BCLG100

If you go playmaking like aggie suggests then perhaps play 3-5-2 or 4-5-1 whicever you prefer anything to add an extra IM to the pack.
You can never train more than 3 PM's per game. So in case you would train PM 4-4-2, 5-4-1, 5-3-2, 3-4-3 and other variants are also possible. As long as you field 3 central mids.

[Tubby Rower]

I thought that wingers get 1/2 training for PM regime

[Aggie]

quote:Originally posted by Tubby Rower

I thought that wingers get 1/2 training for PM regime
Ooooops, you're right. This means that BLCG is also right and that 3-5-2 and 4-5-1 are best......

[arne1]

quote:Originally posted by Tubby Rower

I thought that wingers get 1/2 training for PM regime


Your thinking is correct. Fro pm training you really want to play 3-5-2 or 4-5-1.

[failedreality]

What about the stamina level?
Right now its 10% - is that sufficient?

And if I do PM and move to say 3-5-2 should I do this in games and friendly's
Also how about this.. If you get disorganized in the game (by reading the play output) does this hurt you in any way?

[Mistfit]

As far as stamina goes it depends on where your current players are at right now. This is something good to track. All of my players (except my 2 GK trainees) are at solid or excellent so 10% works well for me as I have not had anyone slide below those levels. Age is a factor in this so you will need to play with it to get to the right level for you.

[BCLG100]

Im generally at 10% and because avergae age of my squad is ~23 i've actually experienced a few growths.

you should do 3-5-2 all the time, that way you can train your players faster to sell them to then invest in other areas of your squad.

initially you'll start out very disorganised but after a few games that should sort itself out.

[failedreality]

While we are somewhat on the subject. When is a good time if at all, to start a youth academy...

[BCLG100]

Whenever and if ever you feel like it and you think your finances can take it.

[sz_matyas]

Regarding trainees, look at stats that matter in games. For inner midfielders (if you are training playmaking) these are: playmaking (duh), passing (popular on the market as it helps offense) and defense (not that popular, but is used to calculate stars and defensive stats). Contrary to Aggie's comment, scoring doesn't help at all (though it is a common misperception).

In your case, I would recommend buying solid PMs that are late 17 to early 18 yrs old so you can afford to get sub-skills along with the playmaking and afford 6 trainees (3/game*2games/week). I would also be willing to sell them when they reach outstanding or brilliant, it will likely take longer as you will have to train stamina on young players, so buy them all at once (if possible) so you can get the big hit over with.

Regarding a youth academy, I would start it once you have your training in place and don't need to spend money on getting quality players for that. It took me 3 seasons before I was ready (and it still has been a net loss for me).

[socralynnek]

Agree with sz_matyas.

For starting teams, I still think GK is a nice training option: You only need 2 trainees(which means less initial investment), you can play whichever (valid) formation you like and you get fast skillups which means you get your money earlier.
Trainees 17yo inad-passable GK with maybe a little set-pieces. Or you even take one inad-passable defender and train him in GK (not really recommended)

[arne1]

quote:Originally posted by BCLG100

Im generally at 10% and because avergae age of my squad is ~23 i've actually experienced a few growths.

you should do 3-5-2 all the time, that way you can train your players faster to sell them to then invest in other areas of your squad.

initially you'll start out very disorganised but after a few games that should sort itself out.

I would first get up team experinece in 3-5-2 if that is done start playing 4-5-1 as well, so you than have the team experience if you need it. This of course only holds if you plen to train pm.

[failedreality]

So FC Twisters promoted this season from VI to V.
14-0-0
Pretty happy with the results.. Team sheet was updated to reflect some changes but haven't had time to update all the changes...

Hopefully this next season I can at least stay in the middle of the road , but I think I need to up a lot of my players to be a contender...

[Shabbaman]

That's a nice winning streak!

[failedreality]

Thanks...
I'm sure it wont happen again for a very long, long time..

[Shabbaman]

Not if you're playing in the cup I guess...

[failedreality]

Yeah won 1st cup, lost 1 league, lol
All good things come to an end..! =)

[failedreality]

New league is not going so great. My team is just not built to withstand the beating I'm taking.. All but 1 team in my division/league has at least 20 stars over me. I'm trying to recruit a few new players to help ease the pain. Hopefully I will not lose all games and drop back to VI - ** I'm not really sure how relegation works **

[arne1]

5 and 6 get a qualifier at home ant 7 and 8 relegate automatically

[failedreality]

Thanks for the info on that...