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Based on a modified Earth Map the Rule the World Pitboss has started today. 11 players start on the sites of their historic cap:
akots: Russia (Cathy)
BCLG100: Rome (JC)
Beam: Inca (HC)
Matrix: Zulu (Shaky)
mauer: India (Asoka)
Meli: Mali (MM)
PP: Mongolia (GK)
Robboo: US (Roos)
Robi D: China (Mao)
Shabba: Arabs (Sally)
Stapel: Aztecs (Monty)
Time victory is off as is tech trading.
Some details of the game can be seen here so happy lurking!
http://www.civstats.com/viewgame.php?gameid=434
Overview of the starts:
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Matrix/2007414142130_CDZ_Earth2.jpg
Essential info for playing:
How to log in:
- Start Civ4 - Warlords
- Go to Multiplayer => Direct IP Connection
- Fill in your nickname for Player Name and matrix.kicks-ass.org or 82.73.85.197 for Network Address and click Connect.
- Select your civilization and click Ok.
- Choose a password and fill it in twice. Next time, it will ask for the same password. (No shit! )
- Play!
- [u]Exit to menu</u> when you're done! The connection doesn't close properly when you exit the game directly, resulting in the game going slower and slower every time someone does that. In effect I would have to save and reload the game every turn.
Here's an easy to use program to log into a Pitboss game automatically:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=172459
Not useful for logging in the first time.
Here's the map, so that you can have a look at the map yourself. You don't need it to play the pitboss.
Download Attachment: icon_paperclip.gif CDZEartha.CivWarlordsWBSave.zip (http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Beam/2007416125532_CDZEartha.CivWarlordsWBSave.zip)
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The doublemove rule in this game (discussion on page 7 of this thread):
Doublemoves are allowed in all cases except when accompanied by a declaration of war. In that case the declaring player is not allowed any offensive action against declared player until either:
a) 18 hours after end of the turn where war is declared.
b) the declared player logs in after end of the turn where war is declared.
The declaration of war itself still allows units of the declaring player offensive actions against the declared player in the turn where war is declared.
ProPain is the last one to play his first turn. If he doesn't before the next turn, I'll kick him so that the AI can play for him. But first he'll receive a PM and e-mail from me.
Edit: He hasn't read his PM at all yet. [rolleyes]
He might not get a chance if he doesn't get a move on ;)
He'll prob be at work so little change he can play.
Any suggestions for a name for this game? <s>Spam</s> Post here. :)
Just had a phonecall with PP. He indeed can't play before the end of this turn and if someone else can play this one turn would be nice. 1 can play but I'm in the game myself so not preferred.
Any takers?
Alternatively AI can play his turn.
digger760
17-04-2007, 13:58
What!!! shabba is actually playing in a game[:o]
Digger!! Can you play for ProPain? :D
Someone logged in for him, calling himself "AmateurPain". [lol] But who is it?
He didn't finish the turn, nor did he build a city.
Um, I still don't know who logged in as "AmateurPain", but since I could see from the score that no city was built I thought it would be best for ProPain to kick him, so that the AI can finish his turn and build a city. When I kicked him, the score still didn't increase, so apparently the settlers just moved. Now in the new turn a new city actually is built, by the AI. [rolleyes] So in retrospective it probably wasn't a good decision to kick him. Anyway, a new turn started. But if Mongolia is made a mess ProPain may demand a restart IMO.
But who logged in for ProPain?!
IglooDude
17-04-2007, 16:44
quote:Originally posted by Matrix
Um, I still don't know who logged in as "AmateurPain", but since I could see from the score that no city was built I thought it would be best for ProPain to kick him, so that the AI can finish his turn and build a city. When I kicked him, the score still didn't increase, so apparently the settlers just moved. Now in the new turn a new city actually is built, by the AI. [rolleyes] So in retrospective it probably wasn't a good decision to kick him. Anyway, a new turn started. But if Mongolia is made a mess ProPain may demand a restart IMO.
But who logged in for ProPain?!
Sorry, it was me - I tried to post here (and respond to the requesting PM) and then CDZ timed out on me for a while.
The starting location sucked balls, so I didn't settle yet.
That's ok IglooDude, I Pmed you. Strange is that PP still got 35 points but it might be some Pitboss thingie unfamliar to us.
i was timing out when i tried to log in before
IglooDude
17-04-2007, 18:54
quote:Originally posted by Beam
That's ok IglooDude, I Pmed you. Strange is that PP still got 35 points but it might be some Pitboss thingie unfamliar to us.
If ProPain got kicked to AI after I did the turn (I didn't log out to give ProPain the max amount of time to go on the second turn), the AI would presumably settle immediately and that's where the 35pts came from.
That's what happened. Because I didn't know you took over for him, or what exactly happened, I kicked him. So the AI now settled somewhere for ProPain. [rolleyes]
DOes being kicked mean that I;m out of the game or that the AI just played one turn?
If I'm still in can somebody pls PM me the pass I need. If I'm out then obviously no pass is needed :)
quote:Originally posted by ProPain
DOes being kicked mean that I;m out of the game or that the AI just played one turn?
If I'm still in can somebody pls PM me the pass I need. If I'm out then obviously no pass is needed :)
Afaik you're civ has been taken over by the AI Borg (you've been assimilated by the collective) but since a species 3,1415926 corrupted Borgs tech assessment it seems if IglooDude sends you the pass Matrix can put you back in Human Control. Or the other way round. :)
Darkness
17-04-2007, 22:28
quote:Originally posted by ProPain
DOes being kicked mean that I;m out of the game or that the AI just played one turn?
If I'm still in can somebody pls PM me the pass I need. If I'm out then obviously no pass is needed :)
The AI just played one turn for you. Matrix can return control of the Mongols to you.
Shabbaman
17-04-2007, 23:04
quote:Originally posted by digger760
What!!! shabba is actually playing in a game[:o]
[punch]
Anyway, PP, I think it's possible to take over an AI, but that's probably depending on the settings.
ProPain can simply log in as Mongolia. A new password will be asked, so no problem there.
IglooDude
18-04-2007, 00:05
quote:Originally posted by Matrix
ProPain can simply log in as Mongolia. A new password will be asked, so no problem there.
That's my understanding as well, but in any case ProPain the password I added to your civ was pp. Also, it was the AI that screwed up your start, not me. [whistle]
How do I change the turn timer? [confused] Every turn takes approx. 26½ hours, so I need to set it on 22 hours.
i still cant connect, timing out some more. I could get into the first turn fine.
Probably just bad timing. I tried to change the turn timer, so saved and reloaded it.
So you try again. If it still doesn't work...you've got a problem. [tongue]
i got in fine now, i think i may have been putting 'kick-ass' instead of 'kicks-ass' :D
allright, dunno if I make todays deadline, if 26.5 hours is correct that would be around 17:30 local time. Critical cause I need to get Floor from daycare but I'kk be trying hard to leave early and play.
All problems will be over in a week or so when the new laptop arives that's powerfull enough to run Civ4. Then I can play during working hours again.
Also due to this (http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4368) I won't be online as much, but I'll be checking in on PM and mails so pls direct all diplo that way if necessary :)
That's alright. If you're not in time, the AI will only take another turn for you. They're not that stupid. [rolleyes] Note that when you log in, it's only to get control back from the AI. The AI always plays it's turn at the very beginning of the turn, so when you log in it has already moved your pieces and stuff...
Well, got control back. Eagerly waiting for tomorrow :)
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Matrix/2007418234555_mooh.gif
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[crazyeye]
Shabbaman
19-04-2007, 07:51
So is there any way to see if I can already play a turn without having to log in?
Wow, my units all automoved succefully in the 2nd turn!
quote:Originally posted by Shabbaman
So is there any way to see if I can already play a turn without having to log in?
If you registered on Civstats you can get a next round e-mail notification.
Darkness
19-04-2007, 11:49
quote:Originally posted by Shabbaman
So is there any way to see if I can already play a turn without having to log in?
Civstats...
The CDZ earth game is here:
http://www.civstats.com/viewgame.php?gameid=434
What happens if everybody finishes turn before the timer is at 00:00. Still run til 0 or switch to the next turn? I see some players have been in the game and done something but not finished the turn. At this stage I can't imagine tactical reasons for that and we could win a couple of hours / day if the Pitboss indeed goes next turn if everybody is finished.
Once everyone has finished the turn a new turn begins right away. As why some haven't finished their turns, maybe they forgot to hit enter (done that a couple of times myself) or in some cases for timing reasons so they don't miss the next turn because they are away for a day they extend this turn. Other then that there is no reason i can think of
Melifluous
19-04-2007, 16:38
quote:Originally posted by Robi D
As why some haven't finished their turns, maybe they forgot to hit enter
You have to press Enter? [blush][hmm][help][melihere][python]
[meli]
Once everyone has presse enter after his turn, a new turn will start, so that would indeed gain us a couple of hours.
Right, press enter. I just left the game when waiting for other players appeared in the screen :)
quote:Originally posted by Melifluous
quote:Originally posted by Robi D
As why some haven't finished their turns, maybe they forgot to hit enter
You have to press Enter? [blush][hmm][help][melihere][python]
[meli]
Ummm...yeah you do[assw]
If could arrange it to be all on at the same time we could go through a bunch of turns at once:D
Oh no, my @Home [u]Regular</u> connection can't handle that! http://www.straland.com/images/smilies/frightened.gif
FYI, my connection speed is:
Download: 500KB/s
Upload: 75KB/s
No idea what that means but id probably slow the rest of you down with my slower than dial up connection!
no way I can make time guys...I play at random times when I get 5 minutes. I have 4 or 5 pitbosses going so I am tapped out.
Melifluous
20-04-2007, 18:36
I was just the last person to play his turn, new turn has started !!
[meli]
BCLG100, did you pop an extra city? [:o]
More likely pop a tech me thinks. Akots go get 'm!
quote:Originally posted by Beam
More likely pop a tech me thinks. Akots go get 'm!
Well, you set me up with planting copper at Norilsk area. ;)
What's wrong with Norilsk? Looks pretty fancy to me, bit like Paris. [lol]
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Beam/2007421233356_Norilsk.jpg
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finished oracle thats why big score jump
Shabbaman
22-04-2007, 09:12
Nice, haven't even researched a tech yet.
Next turn ill have done 3.
Shabbaman
22-04-2007, 16:21
Balanced starts eh...
He's just pulling your strings, Shabba. He's done as much techs at I have tits.
He's just pulling your strings, Shabba. He has researched as much techs as I've got tits.
Shabbaman
22-04-2007, 19:11
2?
;)
the joys of goody huts though lads :)
Shabbaman
24-04-2007, 08:18
When I look at civstats I notice something odd: some players log in, and out, but apparently don't finish their turn [punch]
Hey ProPain, is that your troops massing on my border or are you just pleased to see me :D
whats wrong Robi...scared of 2 or 3 troops?
He's building wonders....the only warrior he has is on the can
quote:Originally posted by Shabbaman
When I look at civstats I notice something odd: some players log in, and out, but apparently don't finish their turn [punch]
Sometimes I log in and see the next turn hadn't started yet...
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
whats wrong Robi...scared of 2 or 3 troops?
No, just stirring the pot as always
as was I...early war is good for those of us protected by distance
The Aztecs are not that distant ;)
quote:Originally posted by Robi D
The Aztecs are not that distant ;)
Well, the first Aztec plan to annoy Robboo's Americans has failed ;). I popped a hut, considerably closer to Robboo than to me, but fortunately for Robboo, no barbs came out.
Which makes me wonder: Are there any barbs at all in this game?
And what about rules? Do we have any? Or can I simply promiss not to attack Robboo, but actually do so without getting any punishment?
Another thing: civstats shows the name of the computer's profile logging in, rather than the player's name. My home PC is simply labelled as Stapel, however, my GF's pc profile for me is Bastiaan.
haha... no barbs in the hut.
Hmm checks notes. Adds notes... Dont trust Stapel
Stapel- at the bit where you enter the IP address above that there should be a name change place- where you can alter your log in name if you wish, that is what shows up :)
barbs at nobel dont really appear for another couple of thousand years.
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
haha... no barbs in the hut.
Well, I did hesitate for that reason. But then I realised you might have a unit near as well. I more or less figured out barbs were probably ruled out of this game and went for it. The hut did provide me knowledge of all your land :). Not that I really see the benefit of that, though......
quote:Hmm checks notes. Adds notes... Dont trust Stapel
Sure, I cannot be trusted. Most people here already know that.
However, I'm most certainly NOT the kind of player that would break any unilateral or bilateral agreements in a game. I think other games, like diplomacy, are more suited for that!
So, the question still stands: How do we handle diplo affairs? If it's up to me, peace deals are simply confirmed in this thread. Whoever breaks it, should be kicked out of the game. Sounds a bit harsh, but otherwise deals are worth exactly nothing.
How do others think about this?
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
Stapel- at the bit where you enter the IP address above that there should be a name change place- where you can alter your log in name if you wish, that is what shows up :)
I'm fine the way it is. It's just that others might be surprised to see unknown names in civstat.
I think on the subject of peace deals that if you make one with another player your relying on their honour for them to keep it, i dont think someone should be kicked from the game for breaking it but most people realise that consequences in this game travel through to others.
Unless you already have a reputation for breaking deals, then it doesn't really matter, isn't that right robboo[lol]
Well, the standard at CDZ has always been so much to honour deals I don't recall we ever had a rule in case a deal was broken. That's in Civ games. Like Stapel said Diplomacy (the game) is different, it is made for breaking deals.
I'd be perfectly happy if we agree to honour deals and no rule if you break. You simply don't.
Shabbaman
27-04-2007, 22:36
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
Stapel- at the bit where you enter the IP address above that there should be a name change place- where you can alter your log in name if you wish, that is what shows up :)
barbs at nobel dont really appear for another couple of thousand years.
Bull, popped huts at noble that spawned barbs [punch]
quote:Originally posted by Beam
Well, the standard at CDZ has always been so much to honour deals I don't recall we ever had a rule in case a deal was broken. That's in Civ games. Like Stapel said Diplomacy (the game) is different, it is made for breaking deals.
I'd be perfectly happy if we agree to honour deals and no rule if you break. You simply don't.
Ai. I forgot about that gay-happy-teddybear-attitude you guys always had in Civ3. [rolleyes] IMO, unbreakable treaties are boring. Civ is just as much suited for such diplomacy as in Diplomacy. And for what it's worth, I've played in a couple of Pitboss games now and no treaty was ever safe for sure. In reality, however, it didn't matter much, because people fear a damaged reputation too much, so don't worry too much about that either.
But I would make an exception if there's just the two of you (for now), because indeed then you can break a treaty and no one will ever know. That's a bit lame. http://www.straland.com/images/smilies/undecided.gif
quote:Originally posted by Beam
Here's the map, so that you can have a look at the map yourself. You don't need it to play the pitboss.
Download Attachment: icon_paperclip.gif CDZEartha.CivWarlordsWBSave.zip (http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Beam/2007416125532_CDZEartha.CivWarlordsWBSave.zip)
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How can I open/play this map?
quote:Originally posted by Stapel
quote:Originally posted by Beam
Here's the map, so that you can have a look at the map yourself. You don't need it to play the pitboss.
Download Attachment: icon_paperclip.gif CDZEartha.CivWarlordsWBSave.zip (http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Beam/2007416125532_CDZEartha.CivWarlordsWBSave.zip)
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How can I open/play this map?
Just run the file, it will start the game automatically, then go into world builder.
As for breaking treaties, there should be no in game punishment. To take out the double cross takes away some of the uncertainty and excitement of the game. Besides the penalty for doing so is that in future games no one will trust you. Personally i don't agree to any treaties i'm not going to keep:D
Ok, let's not make things more difficult than they are. We simply have no rules about treaties.
Ok, let's not make things more difficult than they are. We simply have no rules about treaties.
How about formalizing all treaties. In chat or fly by PM's just count as negotiations which can always fall through. I've burned myself on fly by PM's, and I don't like making treaties that way....coughrobboocough....So don't weigh and measure my every word unless it says "Treaty".
i can tell the difference between a treaty and word of mouth, i'll only get seriously annoyed if its just a plain break but then ill just remember that for the next game.
quote:Originally posted by mauer
How about formalizing all treaties. In chat or fly by PM's just count as negotiations which can always fall through. I've burned myself on fly by PM's, and I don't like making treaties that way....coughrobboocough....So don't weigh and measure my every word unless it says "Treaty".
NOT my fault you cant remember deals...your attack cost me any chance at winning despite you AND I promising never to attack each other..you bastard. :)( no hard feelings...)
I have never once broken any treaties so I dont quite know what you are talking about Robi. :)
Is it just me? Or do 24 hours take about 26 hours here?
Injection eleven. [tongue]
At last a Quecha found something else to eat than raw Amazon vegetation. [dance]
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Celebrate every small victory while you still can. [tongue]
I've made a second Windows account here which is solely meant for the hosting of this game. Now the two Pitboss windows don't clutter the task bar. ;) And with the task manager I've closed all processes in that account, except for the Pitboss and Civstats, but including Explorer. :D But it's a limited account, so please let me know as soon as possible if you can't connect.
quote:Originally posted by Matrix
Injection eleven. [tongue]
I'm affraid I am too dumb to understand this.
BTW, my question was serious. The start of the turn seems to come later every day....
Spuit elf! (Ken je die uitdrukking niet? Ergens mee aankomen wat al eerder gepasseerd is.)
Anyway, you're right. The timer goes a little bit slower than it ought to do. This is a known issue. But I haven't figured out yet how to change the timer.
quote:Originally posted by Matrix
Spuit elf! (Ken je die uitdrukking niet? Ergens mee aankomen wat al eerder gepasseerd is.)
Of course I do know that! However, you do NOT!. We use so many sayings and phrases in the Dutch language, that most people have no idea where they come from! The proper translation of 'spuit elf' is nozzle eleven, not injection eleven.... I would never have guessed what you mean! The complete saying is "Nozzle eleven gives mud". It comes from fire fighters. When there already are ten guys fighting a fire, there is no use in getting an eleventh person, because his nozzle will only give mud (from the bottom of the canal). In practice it indeed means that there is no use in saying something which has been mentioned ten times.
quote:Anyway, you're right. The timer goes a little bit slower than it ought to do. This is a known issue. But I haven't figured out yet how to change the timer.
Well, as you have concluded, the issue was not known to me!
quote:Originally posted by mauer
Anyone gonna claim Poly?
Can't you see the name of the holy city? Not sure, but I think that's possible, right?
Nope, can't see it till I meet them.
quote:Originally posted by Stapel
Of course I do know that! However, you do NOT!. We use so many sayings and phrases in the Dutch language, that most people have no idea where they come from! The proper translation of 'spuit elf' is nozzle eleven, not injection eleven.... I would never have guessed what you mean! The complete saying is "Nozzle eleven gives mud". It comes from fire fighters. When there already are ten guys fighting a fire, there is no use in getting an eleventh person, because his nozzle will only give mud (from the bottom of the canal). In practice it indeed means that there is no use in saying something which has been mentioned ten times.
Hehe, didn't know that! You certainly put me in my place here. [scratch]
Civ 4 makes me feel like a complete noob......
I wish I still had the huge amount of time I had when Civ3 hit the shelves :)
Well, Civ4 simply takes a little bit more time to get used to than Civ3. The good thing as well as the annoying thing is that there isn't always a clear best strategy to go for.
quote:Originally posted by ProPain
Civ 4 makes me feel like a complete noob......
I wish I still had the huge amount of time I had when Civ3 hit the shelves :)
It took me more than a year to get sucked into cIV. Many things that were extremely important in civ3 have disappeared (like the mm-ing to get exactly filled up shield and food boxes, lowering the tech percentages when a new tech is near, or cities shutting down).
But cIV offers a huge amount of new features! It simply takes time to get along with that!
Just a heads up to yous guys....Klammi is filling in for me here starting today and ending on Tuesday of next week...Have fun guys, I'll try and bring ya'll back a hula girl [wavey]
quote:Originally posted by Stapel
quote:Originally posted by ProPain
Civ 4 makes me feel like a complete noob......
I wish I still had the huge amount of time I had when Civ3 hit the shelves :)
It took me more than a year to get sucked into cIV. Many things that were extremely important in civ3 have disappeared (like the mm-ing to get exactly filled up shield and food boxes, lowering the tech percentages when a new tech is near, or cities shutting down).
But cIV offers a huge amount of new features! It simply takes time to get along with that!
There still is an awful lot of MM'ing that can be done so its not just hit enter every turn and move units around :)
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
quote:Originally posted by Stapel
quote:Originally posted by ProPain
Civ 4 makes me feel like a complete noob......
I wish I still had the huge amount of time I had when Civ3 hit the shelves :)
It took me more than a year to get sucked into cIV. Many things that were extremely important in civ3 have disappeared (like the mm-ing to get exactly filled up shield and food boxes, lowering the tech percentages when a new tech is near, or cities shutting down).
But cIV offers a huge amount of new features! It simply takes time to get along with that!
There still is an awful lot of MM'ing that can be done so its not just hit enter every turn and move units around :)
The main difference is that forgetting to mm a city one turn, will not affect your whole plan for a dozen turns in cIV.
im not sure i had to do a very important piece of mming a few turns ago that would have meant my whole game would have been about 15 turns behind where i wanted it to be if i hadn't.
How to change a password in a pitboss game?
I tried to search CFC, but without succes.
Does anybody know how to chnage my pitboss password?
I don't think you can, not in the usual way. The only way i know of is to retire and let the AI take over then log in and take over again. Maybe someone else knows a better way
I don't, but there's nothing wrong with that procedure. Just make sure you've finished your turn before retiring, so that the AI won't do things for you.
quote:Originally posted by Robi D
I don't think you can, not in the usual way. The only way i know of is to retire and let the AI take over then log in and take over again. Maybe someone else knows a better way
Sounds ok, if this can be done within one turn, right?
quote:Originally posted by Matrix
I don't, but there's nothing wrong with that procedure. Just make sure you've finished your turn before retiring, so that the AI won't do things for you.
I've finshed my turn this morning. So, when I get home, I should join the game (make sure I have indeed pressed enter) and simply retire?
Then what?
pick the Aztecs and simply fill in a new PW (twice)?
IglooDude
03-05-2007, 13:30
quote:Originally posted by Stapel
quote:Originally posted by Matrix
I don't, but there's nothing wrong with that procedure. Just make sure you've finished your turn before retiring, so that the AI won't do things for you.
I've finshed my turn this morning. So, when I get home, I should join the game (make sure I have indeed pressed enter) and simply retire?
Then what?
pick the Aztecs and simply fill in a new PW (twice)?
Yep.
Password succesfully changed!
I'm off to France. Darkness will take over this week.
Have fun!
How's the connection, guys? Does it take a long time to download the game (compared to other Pitboss games)?
seems about normal Matrix..I cant say its longer yet. The real test will come when more of of teh map is filled with units and cities.
i now realise why i love imperialistic for the early game!
Shabbaman
06-05-2007, 17:48
So, what's wrong with the server?
You can't connect? [confused]
Shabbaman
06-05-2007, 20:42
quote:5/6/07 12:44 am Uploader timed out
So only 5 players played the previous turn?
No civstats the main site is having an update, therefore the civstats things will be out of date for the next few days. its just hit and miss whether turn has gone over etc right now.
Civstats is back in the air for me. Next turn 17 hours from now.
Melifluous hasn't logged in for twelve turns in a row now. [hmm] I sent him a PM.
i sent him a pm regarding another game awhile ago too, still no reply.
Darkness
10-05-2007, 20:19
quote:Originally posted by Matrix
Melifluous hasn't logged in for twelve turns in a row now. [hmm] I sent him a PM.
He hasn't been at CDZ for about two weeks either...
He has been at the site according to the Memebers page but hasn't <s>spammed</s> posted.
digger760
11-05-2007, 11:06
He obviously upset that nobody has noticed the lack of spam recently
He asked me to kick him to AI, because he's got too much work on his hands right now.
Darkness
14-05-2007, 09:44
quote:Originally posted by Stapel
Ich bin zurück!
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
sorry?
I am back - in German...
I think the uploader disconnected at or about the same time I logged in. Should have about 12 hours left.
yeah, just matrix and pp to go now.
PP hasn't been playing for a couple of turns now, maybe send him a PM?
Actually, he's missed 6 turns, with this one being the 7th. Is there some way we might be able to sub the AI for him until he returns or someone hears from him?
Alright, I kicked ProPain too.
I hope Melifluous didn't set a precedent. [sulk]
Just wondering what the difference is between being AI or skipping turns apart from delaying the whole shit to the next turn. Pretty clear "AI" means the even better artificial intelligence will play the game for you but does the same happen when skipping turns? For example will a new tech or improvement be started?
If its just a few turns then no the AI does nothing, after you miss a certain number though the AI takes over.
What gives you that idea, BCLG100? Most logical seems to me that the AI will do nothing. All the things you put in queues will be performed (and if you give a unit the order "explore" it will effectively do the same as when you leave it to the AI), but whatever unit does not have something in queue will do nothing. If you have no science in queue you will research nothing. If a city isn't producing anything it won't start something unordered.
Because it happened to me in that first game we played hosted by daveshack with davemcw the eventual winner. I couldnt get in for over a month and a half as it wasnt accepting my password for some reason.
I just got Buddhism. [???] Why didn't anyone else take it earlier? Because you all thought "someone else will probably beat me to it"?
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
Because it happened to me in that first game we played hosted by daveshack with davemcw the eventual winner. I couldnt get in for over a month and a half as it wasnt accepting my password for some reason.
And you're sure DaveShack didn't kick you? I can't deny what you're saying, since you've had experience with it and I haven't. It just seems highly unlikely in my perspective. [scratch]
IglooDude
21-05-2007, 14:26
Same here - my sense was that if a person doesn't log in, there's no "AI" involved at all - the orders are followed, and the queues are researched/built, but beyond that nada, and the pitboss server never decides on its own to AI-ize a human player's civ.
Easy enough to test, I suppose - just bring up a new pitboss game with a few (non-playing) human players and minimum turn times, and check back in a month.
I dont think he did, it was over a year ago now so my memory isnt crystal clear but i don't recall any re-entering of my password whilst during that time i had built a worker and a rax.
quote:Originally posted by Matrix
I just got Buddhism. [???] Why didn't anyone else take it earlier? Because you all thought "someone else will probably beat me to it"?
I already have hinduism :) .
quote:Originally posted by Matrix
I just got Buddhism. [???] Why didn't anyone else take it earlier? Because you all thought "someone else will probably beat me to it"?
Because i was too busy trying to stop Propain killing me :D
Anyone still receiving e-mails from Civstats when the next turns starts? It has been dead for me since they did some kind of upgrade. [scratch]
I never got them to begin with :( not sure why.
though i have seen reports of that happening elsewhere.
Same here. And apparently the other account I made doesn't allow Civ4Pitboss to send e-mails.
I'm gonna have to switch my modem, so the game will be offline for either a couple of minutes or many hours. I'll post here when I'm back online.
Edit: Haha! You're not gonna get me with your 'law', Murphy! http://www.straland.com/images/smilies/boxer.gif
btw who built stonehenge?
Matrix, as soon as you walk away it's gonna blow up.
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
btw who built stonehenge?
you mean theres more people out there other than the one i found....
I think if you havent met them you shouldnt know. Unless we allow diplo between civs that havent met.
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
Unless we allow diplo between civs that havent met.
I don't think we should, but does it matter to know earlier who built a certain wonder? It wasn't me, by the way.
diplo sure, ackowledging a wonder is part of the fun in my mind, especially as we could not meet other nations for hundreds of turns.
If you look at the scores at the time its pretty obvious if you ask me
*cough* beam *cough*
quote:Originally posted by Robi D
If you look at the scores at the time its pretty obvious if you ask me
*cough* beam *cough*
Moi? [mischief]
*cough* yes you *cough* [:P]
This weekend I'll be away from sometime Friday to sometime Sunday so ur all welcome in the Green Hell of Bolivia. [evil] For most things are automated for the coming turns except for one I have a Q later.
Sad thing is I won't be finishing turns so the Pitboss timer will run the full 26 hours or so for the next turn. In your experience anyway of avoiding this except switching AI which I really don't want?
My Q is about worker action automation. Is it possible to give a worker working a tile a command working another tile after completing the current tile?
TIA
I don't think that's possible. No worries though Beam, that's what the timer is for. Thanks for the notice though :)
@Mauer, you mean that's also for a worker being able to see what it can improve on another tile, no way of queuing that? One of the CiV selling points I recall is doing multiple worker improvements in one go (i.e. move > chop > work > connect for example, not that I've ever seen it this literally).
killercane
31-05-2007, 23:46
You can definitely queue up worker moves by holding Shift or Control or something like that. I just dont know the specific button combination.
yeah, you just hold shift from memory
Hmm, learn something new everyday. I was looking in the book and couldn't find anything on it.
As long as the improvement is visible and within your territory and there are no enemies or barbarians to interrupt it, that Shift thing works quite well. I'm not sure how deep one can go there in terms of how many actions are actually remembered but should be enough for a couple of turns. When animals or barbarians appear next to it, everything is cleared and worker is activated to be able to run away from danger. It also does work even with the Great Wall and animals which is rather annoying at times.
did rhye fix the bug in this map where you could build certain wonders in europe and they would count for the whole of eurasia?
yo beamhow come your not ending your turns?
7 posts up, he's away for the weekend. Apparently Matrix had to reload at some point in time also.
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
yo beamhow come your not ending your turns?
The answer is a few posts up :) .
beat you by 9 seconds there stapel :p
well that would explain it if he wasnt logging in but you can click on his name and see that someone called beam is...
Oh yeah, I have no explanation now Sherlock Holmes.
quote:Originally posted by mauer
beat you by 9 seconds there stapel :p
You've ruined my day!
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
yo beamhow come your not ending your turns?
You mean one single turn? When I was about to leave next turn came in and I guess actually logged out without ending in the hurry.
quote:Originally posted by Beam
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
yo beamhow come your not ending your turns?
You mean one single turn? When I was about to leave next turn came in and I guess actually logged out without ending in the hurry.
well if it had of been once then i wouldnt have mentioned anything but it was twice in a row, was subtely hinting that maybe you were waiting for something to happen.
This time the waiting is on ProPain. He checked in again, to take over from the AI.
I say we get out the cane pole for non turn enders......they make me madder than a wet hornet.
JK
Matrix, can you please send PP another e-mail if he is sure he has time to play? Don't think PM will work cause he hasn't been on site for weeks.
6/4/07 10:51 pm Stapel Logged out
6/4/07 10:43 pm ProPain Logged in
6/4/07 10:36 pm Stapel Logged in
6/4/07 10:03 pm Cat Behemoth Logged out
6/4/07 10:01 pm Cat Behemoth Logged in
6/4/07 7:39 pm Shabbaman Logged out
6/4/07 7:30 pm Shabbaman Logged in
6/4/07 7:01 pm Stapel Logged out
6/4/07 6:52 pm Stapel Logged in
6/4/07 6:25 pm Stapel Logged out
6/4/07 6:24 pm Stapel Logged in
6/4/07 6:14 pm Shabbaman Logged out
6/4/07 6:10 pm Shabbaman Logged in
bleeding hell people- civstats is there for a reason [:p]
just so you know logging in too many times does put a strain on some servers.
Shabbaman
05-06-2007, 07:57
I was actually doing something.
Interesting:
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Beam/20076710117_battle.jpg
19.92KB
Trying to errm... say something?
:)
So ive met 3 others now, who can beat me?
Shabbaman
07-06-2007, 16:14
Good question.
You got good land and resources, plus the advantage of the sea in your back. You can block me easily in Greece/Turkey, so that leaves you with Akots fighting for territory. I bet you knew what you were picking when we choose the map. Or did you only pick romans because you are the type that likes to rush his neighbours with preatorians, claiming that they're only on a scouting mission?
beat me in the sense of beat me in numbers of contacts mr ulterior motive [:p]
im unsure- everyone knew what they were picking when they chose the map, i got lucky no-one else picked a european civ other than akots.
Shabbaman
07-06-2007, 18:03
Well, I could choose between Mali, Egypt, Persia and Arabia. I think I choose the best of that pack, but it's nothing worth organizing a party for.
Come conquer me then, take my land :p
dang...I dont think shabba and BC will get along with out fighting in this game...
killercane
07-06-2007, 19:23
Hey Mali is strong, Mali is mighty... and we now have 5 total population!
Shabbaman
07-06-2007, 21:15
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
Come conquer me then, take my land :p
You don't have enough sand for my liking ;)
igloodude, at least in klammis game he is.
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
im unsure- everyone knew what they were picking when they chose the map, i got lucky no-one else picked a european civ other than akots.
Well, I've picked Russia for obvious reasons which have nothing to do with map or whatever else. I like some role-playing, you know. So, I'd be trying to be peaceful and quiet just like the real history can be considered to have been with Catherine (someone might certainly disagree though; and unless Mongols come and would try for some mischief).
If it were Stalin, it could have been different. If it were Piter, it would have been certainly different. So, everyone can relax now and have a glass of warm, delicious, wheat vodka, courtesy of the Imperial Distillery in Moscow. [beer1]
quote:Originally posted by akots
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
im unsure- everyone knew what they were picking when they chose the map, i got lucky no-one else picked a european civ other than akots.
Well, I've picked Russia for obvious reasons which have nothing to do with map or whatever else. I like some role-playing, you know. So, I'd be trying to be peaceful and quiet just like the real history can be considered to have been with Catherine (someone might certainly disagree though; and unless Mongols come and would try for some mischief).
If it were Stalin, it could have been different. If it were Piter, it would have been certainly different. So, everyone can relax now and have a glass of warm, delicious, wheat vodka, courtesy of the Imperial Distillery in Moscow. [beer1]
The Mongols are slightly preoccupied at the moment with some internal issues so i think you can rest easy
IglooDude
10-06-2007, 13:10
quote:Originally posted by Beam
Who is "Stapelshelper"?
Yeah, it's me, Stapel asked me to sub for him this weekend.
Stapel is back!
Anyway, what's up with ProPain?
quote:Originally posted by Stapel
Stapel is back!
Anyway, what's up with ProPain?
Afaik he is set as active player but not playing.
deja vu, could we set him as AI to possibly make it a bit harder for robi to roll over him?
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
deja vu, could we set him as AI to possibly make it a bit harder for robi to roll over him?
too late, not that it would have helped much given the firepower i have
You were throwing cans of fosters at him cos no-one else wants them?
Little red books actually
Ops, sorry, but my civ crashed on me during the turn after I've pressed end of turn button. Hopefully the server is OK.
Seems to be. My computer is rock solid. [evil]
Shabbaman
11-06-2007, 22:09
Bummer, I can't manage to play my turn today: no civ4 installed.
send me your pass ill log in for you :)
Shabba currently is logged in according to civstats. I guess you have to use that scouting Praet to stop him BC!
Actually, as the standard replacement player for Shabba and having seen his post here, I contacted him via PM to play so that would be me being logged in.... currently awaiting some info on any wandering praets or what else from shabba via PM...
Shabba? You've got mail (again)..
I think he said, and I quote..."Give all the cities and units to Mauer". I'll log back in after a bit to accept :D
Damn I knew I had forgotten something when I pressed end turn... [sad]
It's ok, I can wait until next turn :p
am i the only one that scouts with units other than warriors and scouts then?
i figure whats the point in building them if they're not going to be usefull! may as well wander around for a bit see what they can find.
Damn, you guys are pretty aggressive! ProPain is already dead (though he kinda asked for it, if I understood correctly), Shabbaman's having a hard time, and killercane attacked my scout with his warrior for no reason. [confused] Or were you angry that I nicked that hut before you? [dunno]
Don't know, really. The map seems to be so huge, there is room for everyone there. No, seriously.
I am at war with myself in this game as well, so no worries guys....I have mauer covered!
im not being aggressive with shabba though :S im just exploring!
killercane
12-06-2007, 04:01
I thought the hut was still there! I need some action in the dregs of the world over here in Nigeria or wherever I am.
From Nigeria, go NE on the express lane to the point leader. He's got some nice cities and excellent chardonnay :D
killercane
12-06-2007, 05:06
My maps only go as far as the northern desert and southern jungle. Who's giving Shabbaman the Oracle Builder trouble?
whats this talk of other civs....I only know of one.
Shabbaman
12-06-2007, 08:02
quote:Originally posted by killercane
Who's giving Shabbaman the Oracle Builder trouble?
That'd be the desert :(
Did anyone even try to build the oracle? I researched useless techs like fishing before I even got on that path. Didn't chop anything (no trees in the desert you know). Matrix had a religion before I did, so he could've gotten to it first.
I was too busy building settlers and workers, 6&6 resepectivly :)
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
whats this talk of other civs....I only know of one.
I know only one too.... oh wait ummm, let me rephrase that
i used to know one other civ[mischief]
eh.....you know me. So I'm reading across threads here, and I think I'll be ready.
Can somebody explain me what this talk about "other civs" is about?
Shabbaman
12-06-2007, 21:47
Just sit back for some turns and I'll send you a nuke to explain what it means ;)
[cry] I'm dead. Prolly for the best as my logging behaviour wasnt even erratic at best. My sincere apologies for this.
Pretty clear for me that any form of online gaming that requires a regular log in is out of the question for me and prolly will be for quite a while as I;ve come to realise that my personal and professional life just don't leave time for this sort of activity right now. Promised myself I won't enter any new civ games for the next year at least.
Again my apologies for letting you guys down on this game.
Didn't let me down, just means we'll have nothing but dumb savages to meet in the future in the "New Land", or so shabba's oracle says.
Nuff savages around here, if you wanna see some in your imaginatory future I'll keep them in cages for 5 gpt each.
I didn't call you a savage, remember that Shabba and his little domed building did ;)
quote:Originally posted by mauer
I didn't call you a savage, remember that Shabba and his little domed building did ;)
You're saying you can't afford the 5gpt for the savages? You better decide now cause they will go +1gpt every 10 turns.
Actually, if you can come pick up my savages, then I might just go for that! They're starting to sprout just about every turn.
Very glad to pick up your savages but I'm colorblind you know so I might mistake a couple.
quote:Originally posted by ProPain
Again my apologies for letting you guys down on this game.
No problem. ;) I actually pushed you too much to play this game in the first place...
quote:Originally posted by mauer
eh.....you know me. So I'm reading across threads here, and I think I'll be ready.
Oh yeah, so i do, sorry i forgot about that[blush2]
quote:Originally posted by ProPain
[cry] I'm dead. Prolly for the best as my logging behaviour wasnt even erratic at best. My sincere apologies for this.
Pretty clear for me that any form of online gaming that requires a regular log in is out of the question for me and prolly will be for quite a while as I;ve come to realise that my personal and professional life just don't leave time for this sort of activity right now. Promised myself I won't enter any new civ games for the next year at least.
Again my apologies for letting you guys down on this game.
Sorry Propain. I would have prefered to have you around when those savages in the west come knocking, but your AI counterpart Genghis isn't a very friendly chap at the best of times so i had to take care of things before they got out of hand
killercane
14-06-2007, 19:54
Anybody want to play for me for a week starting Saturday? I dont even care if you are in the game since we are all so isolated anyhoo.
I'm not sure that would be ok! Who knows what advantage your replacement can have over other players, by knowing your surroundings.
I agree. Best would be to find a replacement from out of the game, otherwise let the AI handle your civ, or just use queues. It's just seven turns...
IglooDude
14-06-2007, 22:10
quote:Originally posted by killercane
Anybody want to play for me for a week starting Saturday? I dont even care if you are in the game since we are all so isolated anyhoo.
I think I can do it, if you'd like. Certainly my knowledge of ProPain's start is obsolete.
killercane
14-06-2007, 22:49
Good deal. Thanks ID. PM sent.
quote:Originally posted by IglooDude
quote:Originally posted by killercane
Anybody want to play for me for a week starting Saturday? I dont even care if you are in the game since we are all so isolated anyhoo.
I think I can do it, if you'd like. Certainly my knowledge of ProPain's start is obsolete.
Since its a map of the earth we all have a decent idea about everyones starting locations so it doesn't really matter to much.
The Ministry of Despotic Indians would like to announce the unveiling of the worlds latest and greatest wonder of the world! I present to you.....the Parthenon! The Parthenon will primarily be used as a center of worship to the Goddess Athena, although it may never be a recognized religion. It will also be used as a catalyst for the discover of many great people and a sushi bar. All that or it will be used to draw the attention of future invaders who have no sushi of their own.
Shabbaman
16-06-2007, 08:58
Sushi? Sounds great! [punch]
According to civstats, I have finished my turn twice....
Im away for ten days, HAK is covering my turns in this one so if any deals need to be done can you talk to him please :)
HAK = HitAnyKey, by the way. [tongue] Is that his nickname at CFC as well, cos I don't believe he's a member here...
Yep it is, he's at strategamer too.
Doz ke now he can regoster her as well?
quote:Originally posted by Beam
Doz ke now he can regoster her as well?
You were either in a hurry, or terribly drunk, when you typed this, right? Probably the latter :D .
quote:Originally posted by Beam
Doz ke now he can regoster her as well?
Register who? [coool]
quote:Originally posted by Matrix
quote:Originally posted by Beam
Doz ke now he can regoster her as well?
Register who? [coool]
In correct english, that would be "register whom?"
Oh, dear me! http://www.straland.com/images/smilies/old.gif
quote:Originally posted by Stapel
quote:Originally posted by Beam
Doz ke now he can regoster her as well?
You were either in a hurry, or terribly drunk, when you typed this, right? Probably the latter :D .
There actually is one typo with what I wanted to type ;) ke instead of he.
I'm thinking maybe HAK forgot he was filling in or something.
EDIT: Found him on the other site and PMed him.
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