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This is a Warlords game.
The setting are as follows;
Map Balanced, Size Standard, 8 Civs (Noble), All Victories activated
Raging Barbs, No Tech Trade
And here are the players
IglooDude (Qin Shi Huang), Klammi (Gandhi), Robboo (Kublai Khan), Darkness (Huayna Capac), Mauer (Saladin), Killercane (Montezuma), Robi D (Brennus), BCLG100 (Ragnar)
It's going to be a tough game, with no tech trades allowed there is one less reason to be friendly [charge]
One thing i can't complain about is the start
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8991/4000bcel1bh8.th.jpg (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4000bcel1bh8.jpg)
Plenty of food and some silver nearby too:D
I flirted with the idea of going for a religion since i started with Mysticism but with all those crabs and fish i decided fishing was more important.
Should be interesting to see who else is near by.
3840BC
I have already run into Klammi's warrior with my scout, so there is not a big gap between us. My scout got a map for the village that was west of me. Here is a look at the map.
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7995/3840bcel1jf8.th.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3840bcel1jf8.jpg)
There are plenty of resources around with a number of possible city placements. After the warrior i might build a scout to go eastwards and see who else is next to me.
3720BC
My borders expanded and popped the hut for 48 gold. It also revealed IglooDudes warrior so i think i can say for certain that he is next to me in the east. The fact we already have a trade route means the river runs between us. I also have made a deal with Klammi, a non aggression treaty to 1AD and we will share information on where the others are as we meet them.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6885/cel13720btv0.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel13720btv0.jpg)
With the NA deal it means i can expand west faster ansd claim the resources since i don't have to worry about a fight for the moment.
My scout has continued his journey going past Klammis border and southward.
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/6381/cel23720bnx6.th.jpg (http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel23720bnx6.jpg)
As far as research goes i decided to do Mining with a view of BW. If ID turns out to be friendly then i can try to sneak a religion first.
3320BC
Mauer's scout came across my borders so he isn't too far away. Igloodude is looking to be friendly for the moment so i'm going to take a shot at getting Judism so i decided on Masonary which works out fine as it give me my UB.
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3746/cel13320btq1.th.jpg (http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel13320btq1.jpg)
My scout came across another village on his way south for another 51g and ran into BCLG. Given the distance between me and Klammi i figure there is someone else in between BC and Klammi so i decided to backtrack a bit and what do you know, another village:D Hope no one else gets there before me.
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/3824/cel23320bzr2.th.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel23320bzr2.jpg)
2880BC
Last turn my scout ran into a tricky situation
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/306/baddaymi0.th.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=baddaymi0.jpg)
Not something you see every day. My scout put up a brave fight killing the lion and bear but the panther was one bridge too far
Back at home, The wheel is done and so is my first worker. Since everyone around me has gotten BW i thought i would be too tempting a target if i went for Judism so i'm just going to have to hope no one else is going for it.
I'll have a replacement scout out next turn then i'm building a settler to try to grab the silver to my west before Klammi gets there
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/74/cel2880b1xx3.th.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel2880b1xx3.jpg)
2480 BC
I've finished Bronze working and i'm going to attempt to get Judism. First step is learning Poly. Everything is running pretty smoothly. Here is a look at my situation
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6562/cel2480b1vj2.th.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel2480b1vj2.jpg)
As you can see both Klammi and Igloodude are pretty close. I had a talke with Klammi and he has decided to grab the copper in front of him which means i have a free run at the silver. Here is my current placement plan
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1746/cel2480b2js9.th.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel2480b2js9.jpg)
My settler is nearly done and i hope to have the silver hooked up by the time my second city is in place or within a turn or two at worst, then i aim to get the copper thats just south of me. The city placements not the best but i figured it got rid of a tundra tile.
The other news is i met killercane who is a long way SE of me and we managed to come to an major agreement. We will have a non agression treaty to 1000 AD and help each other in war. This pretty much puts ID in my crosshairs when it comes time for war.
2240BC
I have my second city. The silver is being mined and i'm on the way to Monotheism.
The bad news is ID put his second city in a place which kills the placement for my 4th city and threatens my placement of city 3 so i'm not thrilled. This means as soon as Robigrad grows to 4 another settler will be built to secure the copper.
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3010/cel2240b1qv3.th.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel2240b1qv3.jpg)
Once the silver is online and the workboat gets the fish the time to Mono will come down. I estimate 7 turns in total to complete it.
1960BC
I'm starting to feel a little closed in with Klammi now starting a city close to my borders. However i got Judism so my culture will stop them getting to close. The settler for my third city is nearly finished so i'll have the copper soon, then i can focus on getting some units and building constructed. Also Stapel has taken over from ID so it will be interesting to see how friendly he is going to be
http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/2385/cel1960b1mj6.th.jpg (http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1960b1mj6.jpg)
And my scout ran into Mauers borders, he is pretty much directly east of me.
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7559/cel1960b2ws8.th.jpg (http://img251.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1960b2ws8.jpg)
1720 BC
I have my third city (everyone else has 1 or 2) up and running and now i'm in the process of connecting the copper. I'm also building another worker so i can go and connect the resources up around Connor City and get it growing.
I can see that Stapel (formally Igloodude) doesn't have copper hooked up but does have horses, which i have around me but not in my borders.
I lost another scout, this one the a barb warrior so i getting another one built to continue exploring. I noticed looking at my past posts i forgot to mention killer and BCLG are at war which started about 15 turns ago. It seems killer went for the dagger on BC but i don't think its going to work. When i talked to killer he was still confident but BCLG got a second city started were killer still only has one so it going to be an uphill battle for him.
Things are running smoothly at the moment, my research targets are now pottery, sailing and Iron working. On the home front growing the 3 cities i have and getting some infrastructure in place and finally start building up the military
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/663/cel1720b1ep0.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1720b1ep0.jpg)
1400BC
Things are falling into place. I have the copper hooked up and all the cities are growing nicely. I'm researching sailing now so i can get a few more trade routes established, then Iron working for my UU and hopefully some iron. My commerce has dropped slightly as Connor City is now working the deer but thats only temporary.
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9394/cel1400b1qk3.th.jpg (http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1400b1qk3.jpg)
My only concern for the moment is my positioning. There is some room along the coast to the east but Stapel is in a difficult position for me. Here is a look at the northern third of the continent
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6553/cel1400b2qv4.th.jpg (http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1400b2qv4.jpg)
925BC
Just finished Iron Working so i can build my UU. My cities are growing nicely so my only problem is the lack of space. Darkness discovered Alphabet so i can see he is 4 techs ahead of me which was a concern, although they were mostly cheaper ones.
However BCLG having agreed to peace with killer jumped straight across and attacked him, which Darkness wasn't prepared for and BCLG has captured a city last turn.
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3460/cel0925b1tf4.th.jpg (http://img514.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel0925b1tf4.jpg)
With all this happening the demographics are starting to look good. Now to try to build up an army without Stapel noticing. He isn't going to be easy to beat with the protective trait.
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4849/cel0925b2lo2.th.jpg (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel0925b2lo2.jpg)
600BC
Things have fallen into place. Stapel got upset when killercane planted a city near him in the south and went after him. I was more than happy to lend him assistance and attacked.
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6528/cel0600b1ns0.th.jpg (http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel0600b1ns0.jpg)
I was able to take the city with the loss of a gallic warrior and chariot. Klammi agreed to assist me with the supply of 3 chariots for a guarantee of peace and a city spot west of Stapels capital. Mauer was just happy to not be in the firing line and is staying out of the way. Klammi tell me the capital will take a bit of work as it has 5 archers protecting it.
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/8567/cel0600b2ti7.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel0600b2ti7.jpg)
Now the game gets interesting. Stapel and Darkness will soon be out of the way this leaves 6 of us. Killer and i have a pact until 1500AD and i have a NAP with klammi until 1000AD. Killer also has a deal with BCLG so in effect we both have a junior partner, which leaves robboo and mauer without a long term parner. So at the moment i'm in a good position for the long term.
375BC
With the amount of archers Stapels got in the capital there isn't much at the moment to do execpt slowly strangle him. I've pillaged almost everything so its just a matter of sitting and waiting him out. Killers progress has also been a bit slower than i had hoped.
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5903/cel0375b1ux3.th.jpg (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel0375b1ux3.jpg)
I guess my one issue is how to go about research after currency. One option i'm considering is alpha-lit and building the Great Library. I don't have any sites that are especially fantastic for a GP farm but Robigrad could do a decent job with the 2 scientist the GL gives. That however means i have to wait longer for catapults to help finish stapel off, which would be the other way to go in doing construction first. But if i do construction first i might lose the chance of getting the GL. So i'm trying to figure out the best way to go for the long term.
Here is a wide angle view of the geopolitical situation
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1213/cel0375b2oi5.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel0375b2oi5.jpg)
1AD
The waiting game is nearly over. I'll have construction next turn and catapults on the way to Stapel soon. I've taken the opertunity to start some settler builds for a couple of turns while waiting for construction. Next turn all cities will change to cat builds. I should have 6 or so within about 10 turns then is on to Stapel.
Once Stapel is out of the way i'll have a trade route to killer which i have a resource deal ready to go. Deer and silver for wine and corn.
BCLG killed Darkness a couple of turns ago so we are down to 7. I have NAP's in place with killer and klammi from before and i got one with mauer recently too, so my only threat of war for the moment is robboo and BCLG but they are both a fair distance away and seem more worried about each other. So i should have no problems getting another 3 cities in place and building in peace for another 50+ turns, from there i can work out what needs to be done.
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9372/cel0001a1eg5.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel0001a1eg5.jpg)
300AD
Nearly there :D
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/7631/cel0300a1cd7.th.jpg (http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel0300a1cd7.jpg)
400 AD
Its all done and dusted. The attack on Stapel went off without a hitch. I did lose my 7 cats, i was hoping 1 or 2 would withdraw but no big deal as i didn't lose any other units in the attack.
I razed and started a new city 1 tile north
Here's the shot the turn after (375AD)
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/6710/cel0375a1nm7.th.jpg (http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel0375a1nm7.jpg)
And now. Klammis borders expanded, mine didn't but i should move them back soon enough.
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/1943/cel0400a1cy1.th.jpg (http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel0400a1cy1.jpg)
And here is an overview of the region
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1661/cel0400a2ml4.th.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel0400a2ml4.jpg)
I have one more city i want to put down then its a choice of what to do next. I have non agreesion deal with everyone around me ending in a little while and given the agression levels in this game a big military is going to be required either way. At the moment BCLG is hammering robboo.
quote:Originally posted by Robi D
With all this happening the demographics are starting to look good. Now to try to build up an army without Stapel noticing. He isn't going to be easy to beat with the protective trait.
Hehe,
You had planned to kick my butt all along! Makes me wonder what could have happend if I hadn't moved my forces to KC.
Otoh, I could only build horses, so a few spears would have done the trick.
Yeah I did. Yourself Klammi and I were put in a area for 2 civs not 3. It was a close call on who to attack but you had slightly better land.
Also you did have Iron near your capital, luckly for me you didn't know about it, otherwise we would still be fighting
700AD
Things are really starting to heat up.
I in my infinite wisdom made peace deals with everyone to 1000AD except killer which lasts until 1500AD
Here are the current relations
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/8093/cel0700a1oz3.th.jpg (http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel0700a1oz3.jpg)
Stapel is subbing for BCLG and Davo for killer. Now i just learned mauer has given killer the 10 turn warning he was obliged to in their deal. This leaves me without a fight on my hands and everyone asking me to join them and offering me some pretty good deals.
For now i’m hiding behind my peace deals to avoid committing to anyone but offering everyone moral support
The way i see it i’ve got 20-30 turns to push my development to the max. I wont need to worry about troops to much since everyone will be having theirs killed in battles, then way up my options and pick the winning team...hopefully
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7551/cel0700a2sw3.th.jpg (http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel0700a2sw3.jpg)
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/9858/cel0700a3bu1.th.jpg (http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel0700a3bu1.jpg)
1030AD
The turns are moving along quite quickly. Around my southern borders battles are going on between mauer, klammi and casey while i happily keep my nose clean
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1064/cel1030a1kh3.th.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1030a1kh3.jpg)
However i didn't want to miss out on all the fun so i decided to conduct a little raid in the south while BC and robboo are at each other.
I figure at this point i want everyone clubbling each other over the head and BC has gained the up hand on robboo, so if i can restore some parity then all the better:D
Yes i know i'm evil[fdevil]
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6552/cel1030a2nr3.th.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1030a2nr3.jpg)
1090AD
My attack on BCLG didn't go to well. Whether it was good planning or luck he had a big stack waiting for me. I had hoped he had most of his unit over near robboo. Anyway i did do some damage and took half his stack with me but i lost everything execpt for a chariot. So we basically agreed to a stright forward peace deal.
Maybe that little adventure will by robboo some time maybe not. Internally things are going as planned. I'll have longbows soon so i can start upgrading my defenses. The demographics show me well placed to join the fray up here in the north at some stage although i still haven't figured out which side to join.
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/972/cel1090a1be0.th.jpg (http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1090a1be0.jpg)
1180AD
Not much has changed in the game. Mauer finally started to make so inroads in killer the soon after klammi made some too. I had been considering which side to support but killer made the decision for me when he started giving BCLG 50gpt. BC is still busy finishing off robboo but no doubt he will be sending support to killer soon. All i have to do is wait for my agreement to end with killer and build up the forces steadily.
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/2504/cel1180a1kf9.th.jpg (http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1180a1kf9.jpg)
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/7606/cel1180a2xu8.th.jpg (http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1180a2xu8.jpg)
Pastorius
19-08-2007, 09:25
Yet another interesting read.
Great to get some perspective on this game
1280AD
Casey bit the dust quicker then expected so we are down to 4. Klammi and mauer have divided the spoils
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7769/cel1280a1tx5.th.jpg (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1280a1tx5.jpg)
This leaves me with the smallest amount of land but its not a big margin. We are all evenly matched so diplo will be key. I have a non agreesion with mauer and klammi to 1500 and no deals with BC. Now i know BC and klammi just did a deal to 1500 as well which suits me just fine.
Given the positions hitting klammi is the best option for me and i could propbably count on BC wanting to hit me too. The first issue for me is to keep mauer from attacking me on the other side if i go after klammi. There is also the issue of not letting BC claim too much territory if he did join in. All in all this game is very much in the balance at the moment
killercane
29-08-2007, 17:42
Looks like a good game plan. Im surprised you had so little in the way of food but those silver hills are nice. I had thought we had peace until 1250, not 1500, though? I was going to give Mauer troops to attack you whenever our deal ran out so was surprised when he agreed to that and then decided against it a few turns later and for war with me.
I'm pretty sure it was 1500 but it didn't matter in the end. I was hoping you would hold out a little longer so klammi would not get as much of a chance to set up so i was cheering you on... sort of :)
Whos next on your list? Klammi or mauer or BC.
1350AD
Were going through a couple of turns a day nowso things are moving along. As for me my plan is set. Klammi is the target. I've secured a deal with mauer, and simon is the wildcard at the moment and could jump in on either side.
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/2584/cel1350a1mp2.th.jpg (http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1350a1mp2.jpg)
My plan is pretty straight forward. 1 and 2 are my main stacks and will attack Calcutta and Bombay respectively. 3 is my defensive stack since klammi still has a lot of units and the south and simon would also come that way if he did attack. 4 is the floater, will have horse units and will cover were they are needed most. 5 is the party piece. I'll have 2 or 3 galleys come down and hope to catch klammi out and take out Delhi. I have a caravel 3-4 turns from circling the world to get the extra MP. Also about 5 turns out i'll use my spirtual trait and switch to vasselage and slavery for the final surge of unit builds. Power graph looks good so far
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/6807/cel1350a2ov9.th.jpg (http://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1350a2ov9.jpg)
killercane
31-08-2007, 16:56
I feel good about your chances. Are you worried about Klammi getting grens soon?
Not really, i don't think he can build them in significant numbers to worry me if i can grab a few cities quickly. But if i see a stack of them i might start :). My big worry right now is what Simon will do.
I'll have engineering in about 8 and should get gunpowder around the start of the war so at least i'll be able to get pinch upgrades. Also have a GP due in 3 and its a 25% chance of being an artist,scientist,merchant or engineer, so that should help.
Wasn't able to get in to the cdz the past day or so[mad]
So you get an all in one update
1490AD: Ready
http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/2299/cel1490a1nf6.th.jpg (http://img482.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1490a1nf6.jpg)
1500AD: Set
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/7682/cel1500a1fs9.th.jpg (http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1500a1fs9.jpg)
1505AD: Go
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9963/cel1505a1yg0.th.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1505a1yg0.jpg)
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/584/cel1505a2ls8.th.jpg (http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1505a2ls8.jpg)
Klammi was able to raise a big army over the last few turns with lots of Grenadiers thanks to a change in civics to Police state and slavery. This evened up the troop numbers quickly although i held and edge.
The first turn of the attack i managed to mostly survive a load of punishment klammi threw at me but the big loss was the naval attack klammi had a few caravel waiting and i lost all the units before landing.
Overall round one was a draw, but klammi took out any momentum i had going. The problem is in my position a draw is the same as a loss.
There is a positive, in klammi rush his gnp dropped to -19 (yes that is a minus) so he is on the brink their. Given that and his technological advantage i thinking of switching from direct attack to pillaging runs. Another thing is i have a GP in a few turns with a strong chance of an artist popping up which i could use for a cuture bomb to push the borders back around Calcutta making attaking easier and dening him working tiles.
All in all not the best start but hopefully things will improve, otherwise 4th place will be mine[lol]
1525AD
Klammi has been able to whip out a lot of grenadiers out so faced with losing all my units i retreated back otherwise i would have had a counter attack on my hands, as it is klammi is staying put while his units heal up. I have been able to make an impact in the south by raze some towns and villages.
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/462/cel1525a1nt5.th.jpg (http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1525a1nt5.jpg) http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/3540/cel1525a2mm5.th.jpg (http://img466.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1525a2mm5.jpg)
I did have some good fortune and got a great scientist so i will have chem very soon so i can cancel out the grenadiers. But at the end of the day it not going to help me much in winning the game. I can grind down klammi since his gnp is awful but by the time thats done simon will be long gone.
1560AD
The not so great war with klammi is over. He managed to take Connor City but with me getting grenadiers up and running and simon starting to run away with the game he was happy to leave it at that.
This means i'm pretty much guaranteed 4th unless the other 3 get bogged down in a long war with each other. For then moment i'll concentrate on getting the economy going again and jump on any oppertunities that present themselves
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1466/cel1560a1ci6.th.jpg (http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1560a1ci6.jpg)
1695AD
Klammi and mauer are about to go to war with simon. I'm happy to sit back and watch while playing them off against each other. I've been selling mauer grenadiers and simon information. Hopefully an oppertunity might open up for me and i can drag myself back into the game. I think my best chance is if simon can beat up klammi a bit i can get some cities off him. I'll have steel next so i can start building some cannons.
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/392/cel1695a1vj8.th.jpg (http://img79.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1695a1vj8.jpg)
1795AD
Simon has been slowly beaten back by the twin forces of klammi and mauer. My peace agreement with klammi ends next turn and i have not extended it even though klammi was desperate to.
This is where the politics gets confusing and interesting[backstab].
Simon is now struggling, but klammi has been the one winning cities, which mauer hasn't. So klammi is now looking like the run away winner. This is something mauer can't do anything about directly since very early in the game he signed a NAP with klammi to the end of the game[slap] which of course he now regrets.
So both simon and mauer are happy for me to attack klammi. Mauer himself is looking at a ceasefire with simon but he wants to have one last go at capturing a city before offering one. When he does he is happy to return the units i gifted him so i can attack klammi.
I on the other hand for the moment am happy not to attack klammi but just let him think i will. Why, well if i did attack him my relatively small force would be wiped out quickly and klammi would be free to return to taken care of simon after a few turns. Where as if i just have units there waiting to stirke without guaranteed peace then he is forced to keep extra near me just in case or risk losing cities. And more units near me means less near simon:D
Better still would be if klammi got frustrated at having units sitting there doing nothing and attacked me and with defending being easier than attacking i might be able to wipe him out and couter attack or if klammi takes a chance and moves some of those units away to deal with simon i could get an opening.
All in all i'm qite happy for simon and klammi to continue a long draining war why i chip away at klammi and bring myself back up into the game. It a small chance but i've got nothing to lose since i'm a distant last in this race anyway.
So basically the 4 of us are all playing two sides in our unique way. Would make a decent script to a spy drama:D
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9263/cel1795a1hc6.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1795a1hc6.jpg)
1808AD
Klammi attacked after i didn't and sent a couple of small stacks which i dealt with pretty easily. He just has single units roaming aroud for now
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4803/cel1808a1pp0.th.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cel1808a1pp0.jpg)
Also it seems mauer might be making a peace agreement with simon very soon so he will be repaying me all those units i gave him, so i might get a chance to go on the offensive.
1828 AD
There isn't much to say. I'm nearly dead. Klammi broke through the lines after he signed a peace deal with Simon. So basically i am outmanned and outgunned. If that wasn't enough the RNG hated me for some reason in some key battles.
I guess 4th is what i'll have to settle for[beer1]
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It was 1834 and i was asleep in bed when it happened. My participation was finally ended.
Looking back i think the obviously turning point was back in 1250 AD. It was about 7 or 8 turns before that date, when my peace deal with klammi was to finish and he along with mauer were busy hammering away at casey. I extended the deal to 1500, expecting casey to last that long and to squeeze out some more economic builds in the cities.
As it was Casey was killed off way before 1500(more like 1300), klammi was able to consolidate, and with a combo of slavery and police state whipped out enough newly aquired grenadiers to stop my attack dead and even end up taking my holy city, which was my nations cash cow.
Still all was not lost. I learned a fair bit about playing the game with no tech trades. It really does put a different spin on strategy involved and on tech research where i found that while its generally good to keep even advance of all branches there are times when you need to concentrate on one branch and then back fill later.
All in all an evenful games with lots of highs and low. I think this quote pretty much sums it up.
"I wanted much, I started much, but the whirlwinds of history blew me away"
quote:Originally posted by Robi D
Given the positions hitting klammi is the best option for me and i could propbably count on BC wanting to hit me too. The first issue for me is to keep mauer from attacking me on the other side if i go after klammi.
You so crazy aussie man! You were gonna cut my throat you goober...lol
I said we had a deal, so you had absolutely no threat of me attacking. At this point in the game Simon was my only war option. Nice spoiler though, bigger pics next time [:p]
Well you can never be 100% sure in these games, besides you DID end up attacking me in the end so there.
The pics expand when you click on them [:p]
quote:Originally posted by Robi D
Well you can never be 100% sure in these games, besides you DID end up attacking me in the end so there.
The pics expand when you click on them [:p]
Just to clarify for the rest of your readers...or your other one actually[col]..... I took your last two cities, which were undefended, when it was clear that Klammi was steamrolling you. They were falling anyways, might as well be to the peace loving and generous leader of the Arabs rather than the murdering butcher from India[smirk]
A very very minor technicality in my book.
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