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DrAlimentado
27-05-2003, 23:07
my start:

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/DrAlimentado/200352816426_Jack_REALstart.jpg
Lt. Killer M
27-05-2003, 23:08
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jack merchant
27-05-2003, 23:13
My start:

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/jack merchant/2003527231220_DrAvsJ_start.jpg
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I have discovered neighbours close by: The Aztecs ! Well, at least they should be able to chase barbs away as they appear.....
DrAlimentado
28-05-2003, 01:53
I have celts as neighbours. I *hate* the celts [mad3]

and Jack, your graphics hurt my eyes... [tongue]
Lt. Killer M
28-05-2003, 10:58
I apologize again for the screwup that wasted 18 turns. Seems these are the correct starts now....
DrAlimentado
31-05-2003, 13:19
turn 088 and something wonderful happens in the newly expanded persian empire...

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/DrAlimentado/200353113183_Jack_GL_88.jpg

I'll update spoiler later, bit suffice to say I'm kicking ass ;)
jack merchant
31-05-2003, 13:31
Two words:

fucking hell !
anarres
31-05-2003, 16:53
Wow! Turn 88!

Guys - What are your Civs! ;)
prettyvacant
31-05-2003, 17:52
let the mystic peer into his crystal balls.......

Dr Al is persian - he has taken Richborough from the celts, gained a leader and built GL there. Jack M is Ottos. This is not from spoiler.
DrAlimentado
31-05-2003, 20:26
full marks pv for absorbing all the info available in this very thread and doing the deductions ;)

It was a slight risk building the GL in a captured city... I quelled the single resistor and did the calcs, but I had to do it right then as the Aztecs (next to jack) had been building it for a while. Building it in Richborough also had the advantadge of instantly expanding its borders to bring in 2 fish's, else it was stuck with just 1 grassland for growth. Worked out rather nicely though [lol]

And I am making full use of immortals while I can, if Jack ever gets to mil trad he will make my life very tough so I'm going for an early win here :D

Here are the stats at turn90 (note the lovely curves on the light green):

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/DrAlimentado/2003531202412_Jack_histographALL_096.jpg
DrAlimentado
02-06-2003, 16:50
turn 121:

Hahaha

Hahahahahaha

Mwuhahahahahahahahahahahaha [fdevil]

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/DrAlimentado/20036216502_Jack_ST_121.jpg
jack merchant
02-06-2003, 17:01
[eek]

Never again will I allow any classy opponent to play as the Persians again, ever !
DrAlimentado
04-06-2003, 03:51
turn 137. I have almost finished off Carthage, and Jack is getting there with the Aztecs...


http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/DrAlimentado/20036434437_Jack_minimap_137.jpg

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/DrAlimentado/20036434351_Jack_ScorePowerHisto_137.jpg
Score/Power

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/DrAlimentado/2003643461_Jack_CultureHisto_137.jpg
Culture

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/DrAlimentado/2003643471_Jack_Scores_137.jpg
Score sheet


let's face it, basically Jacks fucked [lol] It won't be too long till I put him out of his misery...
jack merchant
04-06-2003, 16:50
Turn 144- Dr Alimentado violates the oath of Hippocrates and declares war on the peace-loving Ottomans !
DrAlimentado
04-06-2003, 16:55
Dr Alimentado says:
we are at war...
jack merchant says:
oh
jack merchant says:
any fighting yet ?
Dr Alimentado says:
so far it is a cold war, no blood and no incursions into your territory! what can it mean??

Transfer of "DrAvsJ_144b.sav" is complete.

jack merchant says:
that the Borg are coming to assimilate me ?
Dr Alimentado says:
:D
Dr Alimentado says:
call it an idealogical stance... we despise the way your nation has bullied the poor peace loving aztecs for so long
jack merchant says:
roflmao !
Dr Alimentado says:
we are the only superpower... it is our DUTY to intervene ;)
DrAlimentado
06-06-2003, 04:28
After some 16 turns of bitter warfare between glorious Persia and the evil Ottomans the inevitable happens:

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/DrAlimentado/2003664243_Jack_Istanbul_falls.jpg
The Fall of Istanbul


:D

Jack has conceded. I'll write up my side of the war tomorrow, I'll say now I made a few mistakes and Jack did everything he could to hold me off - but you can't argue with this for very long:

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/DrAlimentado/20036642612_Jack_156_SoD.jpg
persian SoD

I had another 15 or so knights on the way to the front too...

That's my first game finished, I should retire now with a 100% win rate ;)
Aggie
06-06-2003, 07:57
Dr A, congratulations [bday]
anarres
06-06-2003, 11:11
hehe, Well done! [party]
jack merchant
06-06-2003, 11:22
I second that - [thumbsup] for the superb play and thanks for a very enjoyable game. I was shocked at the number of troops DrA was able to bring to bear upon me !

Terms for the revenge game are already under discussion....
ERIKK
06-06-2003, 12:32
This looks exactly like my first game against anarres (my first PBEM) where I was
overwhelmed with the number of troops. Seems like it runs through the family....!
jack merchant
10-06-2003, 03:09
the ignominious end of game #2 as Persians come knocking on my door at turn 20:

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/jack merchant/20036103855_DrAvsJ2_dead.jpg
19.02KB

SHORTEST.......PBEM..........EVER !
ERIKK
10-06-2003, 10:13
You could rush a spear.
Agree with DrA to load one turn back for a stupid mistake!!!
Aggie
10-06-2003, 11:50
Hmmmmm....now I understand why a new map is needed :)
jack merchant
10-06-2003, 12:52
I can get a spear one turn earlier, which might be enough to hold off the Persians - of course that means screwing the Persians out of a tech for gpt deal with foreknowledge, but OTOH they might not attack if there's a spear now.

I suggest we wait with asking for a new map until we have decided what to do.
anarres
10-06-2003, 13:08
If you must replay a turn don't screw then with a gpt deal as that would be really bad...
WildFire
10-06-2003, 13:12
quote:Originally posted by jack merchant
SHORTEST.......PBEM..........EVER !


Afraid not [^]

Me and killer had like a three or four turn one awhile back. Even though it was that short on purpose, it was still the shortest ever[dance]
DrAlimentado
10-06-2003, 13:49
well, if we can get a new map thats cool (new map= Aggie rejigging the starts/Ai civs? pretty please Aggie [worship])

Jack, if we go back a turn or two it would have to be with an understanding that you don't use your foreknowledge to screw the persians... that would piss me off a great deal! There's no way anyone should get an advantadge out of being crushed by turn 20 imo!
anarres
10-06-2003, 14:42
You know in my game with jack I was rushed by several archers and warriors by the Romans by turn 25!! I had to rush 3 spears in a row to survive, and I was behind for nearly the whole game.

I think a restart is OK very occasionally, but by the strict interpretation of the rules jack should take the loss (sorry jack). If DrA is happy to make an exception it should be under whatever conditions DrA lays down, since he is giving up a free win.

Just IMO of course...
jack merchant
10-06-2003, 19:25
Having read the rules, they are indeed pretty unambiguous, which means DrA should indeed take the win - the restart will be take 3 then ;)
DrAlimentado
10-06-2003, 21:42
nah, we'll call it an agreed restart ;)
Aggie
10-06-2003, 22:07
Great fair play Dr A :)