View Full Version : Civs vs Civs - Open Thread
Tubby Rower
14-11-2006, 18:04
WooOOOooOt
we're finally underway.
Here (http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3844) is the thread where this was started if you care to read it.
Basically each player has 2 leaders from the same civ. except IglooDude and he has Native American civs (as a reward for acquiring a hosting computer :D Thanks ID)
Here is the roster
America (George & Roosevelt) - Robboo
China (Mao & Qin) - Socraynnek
England (Vicky & Elizabeth) - barbu1977
France (Louis & Nappy) - krysABunchOfLetters
Germany (Bismark & Freddy) - Darkness
India (Asoka & Ghandi) - Robi D
Mongolia (Kublai & Ghengis) - BCLG3001
Russia (Pedro & Cathy) - Tubby
Incans and Aztecs - IglooDude
IglooDude
14-11-2006, 18:06
I'll get Civstats going as soon as we have a couple reports of the game working properly.
tubby dont forget to post a picture of your capital so we can all see our summer retreats
Tubby Rower
14-11-2006, 18:36
Which capital? I think that I might name mine after random drinks made with vodka [:p]
oh and I need the city called Uranus so that Buddhism can spread to Uranus [lol]
you liked that one huh? :D
im not sure what to name mine this time, i think i may go for interesting places to spread....
Socrates
14-11-2006, 18:48
What is CivStats ?
I think I'll also name my cities for once. And fact is, we almost (or all ?) have the same civ twice, which means there is redundancy here, not sure how the game copes with it.
Civstats is basically a program that runs alongside pitboss that ID sets up made by some fella at cfc which allows you to check on the internet how long left on each turn there is without actually going through the hassle of logging in and looking for yourself :)
Tubby Rower
14-11-2006, 19:23
http://www.civstats.com/ is the site. You can register and then you can actually conduct diplomacy there if you don't have an email address or PM location. It will also give you information available to everyone in game such as when people log in and out, when people's scores increase or decrease, when someone is eliminated, etc.
IglooDude
14-11-2006, 20:36
Looks like Darkness just finished both his civs' turns. [coool]
Darkness
14-11-2006, 20:37
OK, I logged on just fine for both my civs, but when I had moved all my units I didn't get the "press enter for next turn" announcement on the bottom of my screen (for both civs).
IglooDude
14-11-2006, 20:45
quote:Originally posted by Darkness
OK, I logged on just fine for both my civs, but when I had moved all my units I didn't get the "press enter for next turn" announcement on the bottom of my screen (for both civs).
So you just logged out?
Odd, given that the pitboss admin panel is showing the asterisk next to both your civs, which indicates that your turn is complete. [confused]
barbu1977
14-11-2006, 20:56
could it be that the default seting on the map does not have "always wait the end of turn" box checked?
Darkness
14-11-2006, 21:10
quote:Originally posted by IglooDude
quote:Originally posted by Darkness
OK, I logged on just fine for both my civs, but when I had moved all my units I didn't get the "press enter for next turn" announcement on the bottom of my screen (for both civs).
So you just logged out?
Odd, given that the pitboss admin panel is showing the asterisk next to both your civs, which indicates that your turn is complete. [confused]
No, I ended my turn by pressing [SHIFT][ENTER]
That works just fine. I just wanted to say that I didn't get the "press enter for next turn" message at the bottom of the screen. After ending my turn I got the "waiting for other civilizations", like always.
IglooDude
14-11-2006, 21:23
Civstats is up for the game:
http://www.civstats.com/viewgame.php?gameid=203
The registration password for this game is the letter c. (If you don't have an account at civstats yet, you need to create one before you can register for this particular game.)
And I'm not sure if it'll matter, or for that matter if anyone can even tell, but if I've got your two civ leaderheads in the wrong order just let me know.
Tubby Rower
14-11-2006, 21:24
I didn't get the message either...btw, DArkness and I are tied for the lead :)
IglooDude
14-11-2006, 21:33
I'll see if that setting can be changed via Gyaathar's utility.
Socrates
14-11-2006, 22:06
How do you play a PitBoss game ? [:p]
barbu1977
14-11-2006, 22:22
In the civ menu, you select Multiplayer -> Direct IP connexion.
Then you enter the IP sent to you by PM, hit connect, select your leader, enter PW, wait a little and you play your turn!
That's about it.
IglooDude
14-11-2006, 22:58
On one of my civs, it prompted me to hit enter when all moves were done, but it didn't do that for the other civ...
Socrates
14-11-2006, 23:36
I played. :) I didn't get the End-of-turn message for either civ.
barbu1977
15-11-2006, 00:49
Is there a way to switch leader without logging out?
nope you have to log out....
played no problem.
Logged in for both civs no problems, will play in a few hours when i have the chance to sit down for more than 5 mins.
Anyway big thanks to akots and ID for the map and server respectively :)
socralynnek
15-11-2006, 10:19
Played with no problems, but didn't get the message either but as it waited til I pressed th green button, it's fine.
Lookoing at civstats everyone who has been in has ended their turn, just BC left to play to take us to turn 2
my bad, knew i forgot to do something, ill go in and check it now :)
IglooDude
15-11-2006, 15:11
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
my bad, knew i forgot to do something, ill go in and check it now :)
Looks like you need to hit your turn in the 32-player pitboss game, too.
i was just about to go into that now [:p]
everytime i go into 32 player though it literally kills my comp :(
the mod for the 32 played game wont open :(
maybe could be to do with how ive patched up now... any ideas anyone?
IglooDude
15-11-2006, 16:12
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
the mod for the 32 played game wont open :(
maybe could be to do with how ive patched up now... any ideas anyone?
That'd certainly be my assumption - the game is running unpatched still, so unless you install an unpatched Warlord game or the game patches, you're SOL.
hmmmm. We'll i patched up so i could play the civIVor warlords game
IglooDude
15-11-2006, 16:21
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
hmmmm. We'll i patched up so i could play the civIVor warlords game
Right, I think most people that are also in other multiplayer Warlords games (this doesn't happen to include me) are running both versions at once.
plus i patched to see the blake thing, havnt played SP yet :)
IglooDude
15-11-2006, 17:00
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
plus i patched to see the blake thing, havnt played SP yet :)
What's the blake thing? [confused]
makes the AI actually clever, theres a thread both at cfc and poly listing what he's done and basically he's made the AI think like a human- its pretty amazing tbh. Makes the game harder without just giving the AI bonuses
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
makes the AI actually clever, theres a thread both at cfc and poly listing what he's done and basically he's made the AI think like a human- its pretty amazing tbh. Makes the game harder without just giving the AI bonuses
That sounds interesting, which part of the forum is it in?
Edit- Never mind, found it
new turn is up :)
oh and it appears im at war now :)
socralynnek
17-11-2006, 18:58
i'm at war too.
evil ********************************************** declared on me twice, no, four times.
or so...
Tubby Rower
17-11-2006, 19:06
so ynnek and BCLG are at war.. do tell... I'm at work and won't be able to check the game until a bit later.
EDIT:: nevermind I have once again confirmed that I'm a moron... everyone is at war in this game... duh. I confused this with the CDZ pitboss game [wallbash]
wait are we supposed to be at war or are we supposed to declare it when we meet. i dont see the war tags by the names.
IglooDude
17-11-2006, 20:30
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
wait are we supposed to be at war or are we supposed to declare it when we meet. i dont see the war tags by the names.
I think it happens automagically when we meet.
Wait, does that mean if we don't explore we can delay war weariness? [lol]
Tubby Rower
17-11-2006, 20:30
when you meet someone.. it will auto-declare. Sort of like in our 2 on 2 PBEM with Whomp & BCLG
cool...so dont explore more than i need to. :)
/note to self....explore in force.
Tubby Rower
17-11-2006, 20:56
riiight [:p]
Socrates
18-11-2006, 00:42
Does anyone know if there is war weariness in this game ??? I hope not, otherwise Always War is quite silly.
Are we supposed to conduct absolutely no diplo with any opponent in this game ? I assume so.
Is there any reason for the turn timer to be set at 22 hours per turn, instead of say 24 hours ? Just wondering. Does the current turn automatically end when the last civ to play logs out ? Not sure, but it seems so, if I understand that Civstats.com page well.
no war weariness
no diplo
22 hours because due to loading of game etc it evens out at about 24 hoursish
quote:Originally posted by kryszcztov
Does anyone know if there is war weariness in this game ??? I hope not, otherwise Always War is quite silly.
Are we supposed to conduct absolutely no diplo with any opponent in this game ? I assume so.
Is there any reason for the turn timer to be set at 22 hours per turn, instead of say 24 hours ? Just wondering. Does the current turn automatically end when the last civ to play logs out ? Not sure, but it seems so, if I understand that Civstats.com page well.
There is a little WW but at only 1/4 of an SP game. Also if you look at how WW is worked out in civ4 the only time you get it is by fighting losing units outside your cultural influence as well as taking cities. Also WW is specific to each civ, so if you kill someone off it resets. The only way in this game that you will suffer the effect of WW is if you attack someone, lose a lot of units and they survive. There is an article in the war acadamy at the cfc which goes into greater details here (http://www.civfanatics.com/civ4/strategy/war_weariness.php).
As for diplomacy, in game your at war with everyone so there is none, however that does stop you conducting some out of the game.
The 22hrs, as BC alluded too the pitboss clock tends to run a little slow so 22hrs takes about 24hrs in RL
I thought we agreed to no contact out of the game anyways, due to tubbys benefit because he couldnt keep up with diplomacy.
I've never seen it mentioned. Although lets face it there is not that much available for discussion. The only thing two people could discuss is not attacking each other for x turns so they can focus on killing other people. I think even tubby can handle minimal negotiations.
Socrates
19-11-2006, 14:41
Does a PitBoss server use a time system based on the Sun or what ? [lol] We gotta tell Firaxis they can use quartz !
kyrs...the timer is right but when we log in or do other in game functions its pauses the timer therefore it "looks" like its running slow.
Tubby Rower
19-11-2006, 16:14
It was mentioned somewhere Robi... No diplo... just taunting
Socrates
19-11-2006, 16:47
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
kyrs...the timer is right but when we log in or do other in game functions its pauses the timer therefore it "looks" like its running slow.
I see... A weird way to implement a "timer", I'm afraid. It should have top priority over any feature ! Anyway, does the next turn start immediately when the last player logs out ? On the Civstats page, it seems it's always the case (and thus said player gets to play 2 turns in a row). If so, that means that we can speed up things a little...
yep when everyone played it starts the next turn. Some turns will go quick but expect during major wars for turns to last the full time.
quote:Originally posted by Tubby Rower
It was mentioned somewhere Robi... No diplo... just taunting
Fine then [assw][assw][assw][assw]
Consider your self taunted
that is the worst taunting ive seen since i looked at the whomp darkness taunting thread, consider your wrist slapped robi- we want higher quality stuff than that!
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
that is the worst taunting ive seen since i looked at the whomp darkness taunting thread, consider your wrist slapped robi- we want higher quality stuff than that!
just go and play your turn slow coach[assw]
Hey Robi...do you have any sheep resources. Everyone knows it makes you Aussies more comfortable to have a few good sheep around. Australia...where men are men and sheep are nervous.
/now thats taunting...rookies.
I prefer to taunt when i have something to back it up with, just like the turn before Partytown disappeared from the Alohan PBEM map[charge]. Otherwise your just pissing in the breeze:D
Hey as long as you piss into the breeze and not against it you wont get your feet wet.
/And yes I cant taunt you as much as I'd like as your kicking my butt in the PBEM head to head.
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
Hey as long as you piss into the breeze and not against it you wont get your feet wet.
Which is my point, it either does nothing or comes back on to hit you.
quote:
/And yes I cant taunt you as much as I'd like as your kicking my butt in the PBEM head to head.
Well play the turn and end your pain[slay]
Sorry about that...planned to play this morning but I had a sick kid to deal with.
I forgot to add that it does accomplish something if someone else if down wind.
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
Sorry about that...planned to play this morning but I had a sick kid to deal with.
I forgot to add that it does accomplish something if someone else if down wind.
I suppose for you the best thing about being thumped by me is that i'm playing america as you are in this game. Should give you some ideas on how to win.
Oh and when people see someone pissing in the breeze they tend to stand well clear bringing us back to hitting nothing or yourself so leave my metaphor alone
yeah..control the choke and have more food rich land...and play against a fool who tries to control the choke with a city too far away from his capital.
As far as pissing in the breeze...Tubby isnt that bright and BC is usually too drunk to check wind direction.
Tubby Rower
21-11-2006, 15:21
My mom says I'm special [:p]
Darkness
21-11-2006, 15:28
quote:Originally posted by Tubby Rower
My mom says I'm special [:p]
Well, special can be read in so many different ways... ;)
IglooDude
21-11-2006, 15:32
You ever see two chipmunks chasing each other all over the place squeeking like mad and seemingly even the other animals sit and watch the spectacle, and have deja vu and realize you're reminded of a CDZ thread?
And on-topic, my scout is better than your scout. [assw]
You mean we are supposed to stay on topic....
Forest Rower or Tubby Gump ????
Tubby Rower
21-11-2006, 19:53
I do relate to that young man. [uglyham]
IglooDude
22-11-2006, 14:13
*waves at BCLG* [drunks1]
[:p]
played my turns [p] even said hello to robi while i was in there, just cos some of us actually have lives ;)
holiday time sucks.....I will play later on today if I am holding it up. If I can just get civ on my work computer then things would be great.
Meditation brings wisdom; lack of Meditation leaves ignorance.
Know well what leads you forward and what holds you back.
TARGET ACQUIRED...Holy man.
Darkness
23-11-2006, 09:31
quote:Originally posted by Robi D
Know well what leads you forward and what holds you back.
What holds me back? I guess my scout getting killed by a panther didn't help... :(
quote:Originally posted by Darkness
quote:Originally posted by Robi D
Know well what leads you forward and what holds you back.
What holds me back? I guess my scout getting killed by a panther didn't help... :(
He should have Meditated:D
Darkness
23-11-2006, 11:39
quote:Originally posted by Robi D
quote:Originally posted by Darkness
quote:Originally posted by Robi D
Know well what leads you forward and what holds you back.
What holds me back? I guess my scout getting killed by a panther didn't help... :(
He should have Meditated:D
People usually sit still when they meditate. Scouts tend to move around. Now if you know any good techniques for meditating on the run...? [???]
socralynnek
23-11-2006, 12:44
I don't have meditation. I ignore it.
Darkness, you can Meditate in many different positions. I will send you some people called "missionaries" that will teach you all the techniques so you need not feed another animal again
Darkness
23-11-2006, 12:48
quote:Originally posted by Robi D
Darkness, you can Meditate in many different positions. I will send you some people called "missionaries" that will teach you all the techniques so you need not feed another animal again
But then the poor animals would starve....[cry]
How about I just feed your missionaries to the animals? That'd solve the problem, beacause then they would be so well fed that they'd have no inclination to eat my scouts anymore...[cool]
Excellent solution... [goodjob]
Socrates
23-11-2006, 13:07
quote:Originally posted by Robi D
quote:Originally posted by Darkness
quote:Originally posted by Robi D
Know well what leads you forward and what holds you back.
What holds me back? I guess my scout getting killed by a panther didn't help... :(
He should have Meditated:D
How could his scout have meditated if Darkness still didn't know Meditation ??? [hmm] :D
socralynnek
23-11-2006, 13:33
can one spread to a civ one's at war with? I thought you could not enter that city then?!?!?
intersting.....can you "attack" a city with your missionary to force your religion on them..
To world builder I go to try something out.
You can send a missionary, but unless a cities undefended he would be killed before he got a chance. Also there is nothing to stop it spreading via a trade route by itself except for running theocracy.
trade routes wont happen with always war....
if you have a potential trade route before you meet it can. I've had it happen a few times in SP games were i've got/gave a religion without knowing the other person because there was the potential for a trade route.
IglooDude
28-11-2006, 19:57
So, by the way, no out-of-game diplo at all?
Damn, there goes the huge advantage I would have exploited...
[lol]
you'da been screwed if you'd allied with me, have you not noticed most games im in i tend to generally be at war?
Tubby Rower
28-11-2006, 20:10
quote:Originally posted by Robi D
if you have a potential trade route before you meet it can. I've had it happen a few times in SP games were i've got/gave a religion without knowing the other person because there was the potential for a trade route.
That could have been because the AI had a clear path to you but you might not have known the path yet. As soon as anyone sees the other, you'll auto declare
And no igloo no diplo. All out war vs everyone. Which means no cooperation
Well you can't close a path you don't know about.
Civstats is down but the game is still going
IglooDude
29-11-2006, 12:39
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
[lol]
you'da been screwed if you'd allied with me, have you not noticed most games im in i tend to generally be at war?
Uploader is fixed.
And no diplo talk at all, aye.
And BCLG, I was thinking we might as well fight everyone else as each other - I'm as much of an MP warmonger as you. But, hey, nothing wrong with fighting each other in one more game, eh? [karate]
I'll just be glad to go long enough to be killed by someone else because the Barbs arn't making it easy atm
Is it just me or did akots leave some surprises for us because i've never seen a stack of 3 lions before. When did they unionise?
Indeed they can. Don't forget that this is the hub-type map and there might be a rather large barbarian-infested area towards the center of the map whereas the starting locations of each player are rather compact which might "squeeze" barbarians and animals into the space available for them outside of the cultural borders.
Darkness
30-11-2006, 11:13
quote:Originally posted by akots
Indeed they can. Don't forget that this is the hub-type map and there might be a rather large barbarian-infested area towards the center of the map
Oh, goodie.... Let's go visit the Zoo. Oh wait, some stupid panther already escaped the damn Zoo and killed my scout. [crazyeye]
[hmm]Call me paranoid but i think the animals are cooperating
Luckly my warriors are strengthed by their Meditation sessions[tongue]
Tubby Rower
30-11-2006, 13:12
yeah the bears came my way and got one of mine.
Note to self: don't set scouts to auto-explore
Socrates
30-11-2006, 13:51
quote:Originally posted by Tubby Rower
Note to self: don't set scouts to auto-explore
Call me paranoid, but setting anything to "auto" in Civ is a nono for me. And BTW, what are you doing exactly each turn if your exploring units are controlled by the AI ? [hmm]
Tubby Rower
30-11-2006, 14:06
I was away last week from Wednesday to Sunday and I wanted my little scouts to go exploring. Most of my "island" is non-black, so I set them to auto-explore while I was gone so no time was wasted. I needed some sort of intelligence since sending them blindly into the black, could have ended badly.
on a side note, if the animal wasn't a bear, I prolly would have survived since I was on a forested hill.
Socrates
30-11-2006, 15:13
OK, but auto-explore what ? What you had already unveiled ? [hmm] What for ?
BTW, I have one question. What happens when you don't log on for a turn or more ? Can we stop the game for a few days if people go on holiday ? I'm a bit uneasy to let an AI get in charge of my civ for a week... An answer would be laptop + WiFi, but that is costly. Always money...
Tubby Rower
30-11-2006, 16:08
you could either get a sitter or give your workers, cities, research and units queued orders. Just hold down the shift key and select away.
The only thing is if someone declares war on you or you want to do any trades during that time. Then you definatly need a sitter. I know that I'll be away the last week of the year so it would be nice if that week we could shut it down, but I don't think that it's mandatory.
Tubby I agree..week between Christmas and new years may be a good time to shut it down. too many people away for enough subs to be available. its also a good time for a cease fire. :)
barbu1977
30-11-2006, 19:36
I also agree with the pause for the Christmas holidays.
oh and as far as barbs go....I havent seen a single one.
I have no problems with the game being turned off for the week between xmas and new year.
Also to anyone who need a player to fill in around this time in other games, i'm hosting the party this year so i'm available:)
IglooDude
01-12-2006, 15:43
No problem with a Christmas break, just let me know what dates to turn off and on the PTBS...
Tubby Rower
01-12-2006, 15:51
how about 12-24 thru 1-1 ?
socralynnek
01-12-2006, 16:10
I can't play from 12-22 in the evening to 12-27 afternoon. I have no problem with shutting it of for longer or missing one turn or so.
Tubby Rower
01-12-2006, 16:31
so 12-22 to 1-1?
Sounds reasonable...a few days before for people traveling and we can kick it on on the 1/2.
Igloo...you will do this for the others you are running.
Darkness
01-12-2006, 16:42
quote:Originally posted by Tubby Rower
so 12-22 to 1-1?
Fine by me...
Socrates
01-12-2006, 16:46
This should be fine with me too.
Tubby Rower
01-12-2006, 16:47
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
Igloo...you will do this for the others you are running.
what is that a Jedi Mind Trick?
[karate]
[luke2]
barbu1977
01-12-2006, 16:57
fine by me too.
IglooDude
01-12-2006, 16:59
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
Sounds reasonable...a few days before for people traveling and we can kick it on on the 1/2.
Igloo...you will do this for the others you are running.
I'll ask if folks want it in the respective threads, it hasn't been mentioned elsewhere yet.
yep it was Tubby..looks like it worked. :)
Damn americans always have things backwards[:p]
23/12 to 2/1 is fine by me.
dang upside down sheep lovers....
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
dang upside down sheep lovers....
[rolleyes]
Call me when you come up with something original[:p]
Tubby Rower
03-12-2006, 20:17
thr truth is sometimes monotonous [:p]
Darkness
04-12-2006, 11:31
so is the debate between you guys... [:p]
Socrates
04-12-2006, 11:38
quote:Originally posted by Darkness
so is the debate between you guys... [:p]
+1
ten chars
I found you [:p]
seems them Indians arnt a very peace loving folk even with their meditation and unhesitantly declared war on me!
on another topic, does everyone else still have to shift+enter to end turns etc?
I still have to shift-enter. It might have something to do with converting a custom map to PTBS.
And i never said Meditation made me more peaceful
Darkness
06-12-2006, 09:17
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
on another topic, does everyone else still have to shift+enter to end turns etc?
Yes...
Tubby Rower
06-12-2006, 12:20
I just click the green button
Socrates
06-12-2006, 13:07
quote:Originally posted by Tubby Rower
I just click the green button
Me too.
And a reminder : sometimes someone forgets to do that or an equivalent, which results in the game waiting for it, and if the dude doesn't log on again (likely), the turn will only be completed after the full cycle. [blush2]
BTW, it seems there is a city at size 5 (demographics button). After 19 turns ? I highly doubt the dude has had the time to build a granary so early (50 hammers, some turns on high hammers and low food, Pottery being a tech you have to research whatever your civ...) AND profit from it. This means the dude was able to get 22+24+26+28 food, ie. 100 food, in 19 turns, which results in more than 5 food per turn in average !! [eek] WTF ?
just using what the god (is it akots that made this map) gave me :)
its fairly easy to work out by score who's city it is which is why im admitting to it :)
Tubby Rower
06-12-2006, 13:27
holy crap... are you becoming a builder Simon? you peace-loving beat-nik [lol]
Socrates
06-12-2006, 13:31
And not to mention that this figure (more than 5 food per turn in average) should be the result of improvements built by a worker... and you don't have a worker in the beginning... Lemme guess, Simon, did akots give you 5 wheat grasslands already farmed and by a river ? [eek]
Yup, he gave me some uranium also-hence why ill have my nukes out in the upcoming turns :)
becoming one??? ive always been one [:D}
Tubby Rower
06-12-2006, 14:53
you seem to be building armies only in other games ... that's not considered standard builder schema ;)
i have no idea what other games you are referring too, in every game the army of BCLG'ians are a peace loving army who merely like having lots of comrades about them :)
kyrs....I didnt push enter but that was because I knew I was going away for 30 hours so i wanted the turn to last the full time.
BC a builder...A SIZE 5 CITY....WOW well theres an advantage every one will be looking to own..
Socrates
06-12-2006, 19:30
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
kyrs....I didnt push enter but that was because I knew I was going away for 30 hours so i wanted the turn to last the full time.
OK, I see. Nice "trick". ;)
quote:BC a builder...A SIZE 5 CITY....WOW well theres an advantage every one will be looking to own..
Yeah but I still can't figure out how he was able to pull off such a growth. I hope we find out at the end of the game. :)
IglooDude
06-12-2006, 20:08
quote:BC a builder...A SIZE 5 CITY....WOW well theres an advantage every one will be looking to own..
I call dibs!! [hyper]
Yes the growth of uranus Simon is quite astounding.:D[assw]
Btw that scout walking through MY territory has a death wish which i'm happy to fulfil if he keeps going.
Tubby Rower
07-12-2006, 13:24
I sacrificed my scouts to a bear god that I found in the woods. He seems to be friendly as he constantly smiles. Although it looks like he has some toothpaste foam around his mouth. Maybe I'll send someone to go help him wipe his face
IglooDude
08-12-2006, 15:05
quote:Btw that scout walking through MY territory has a death wish which i'm happy to fulfil if he keeps going.
It appears that if he keeps going, he outruns your warrior and thus stays alive... [mischief]
that and robi's territory is infact on a different island to where his units are!
Tubby Rower
08-12-2006, 16:26
[lol] I was wondering how someone made it through the zoo to someone else's territory.
Religion does wonders to border expansion ;)
IglooDude
08-12-2006, 16:40
quote:Originally posted by Tubby Rower
[lol] I was wondering how someone made it through the zoo to someone else's territory.
Indeed - my thinking was that enemy warriors were probably less deadly (and certainly less plentiful) than all those lions and tigers and bears out there, so my scout will be safer inside someone's borders. :D
and my warrior will be only too happy to kill that scout off for you if you want :)
Socrates
15-12-2006, 12:55
To all : Might be an idea to play the current turn before tonight (Europe time), so that I don't lose one turn. I'm going to London for the weekend, but short enough to not lose one turn if turns fit my schedule. ;) The next turn beginning somewhere between 6pm GMT tonight and 4am GMT tomorrow morning would be nice.
Tubby Rower
15-12-2006, 13:16
[lol] the funny thing about Pitboss games is that it doesn't matter if you play every turn. the game will go on if you play or you don't. But I played this morning around 2 hours ago and will try to play this afternoon if the turn changes over again.
socralynnek
15-12-2006, 14:02
It seems you could do a CDZ gathering in London then...Rik is also there...
Socrates
15-12-2006, 14:47
quote:Originally posted by socralynnek
It seems you could do a CDZ gathering in London then...Rik is also there...
;) Actually I'm going to that CFC meetup, and Rik, Matrix, Stapel and Meli are going too (BCLG I'm not sure).
Yeah, I know the game doesn't stop and stuff, but there is a way I can control every turn here, which implies people to play and end turn a bit before the deadline.
I will play in about 7 or 8 hours...hope that makes your time limit.
Socrates
15-12-2006, 19:47
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
I will play in about 7 or 8 hours...hope that makes your time limit.
I'll be sleeping, but I don't mind firing the game just before I leave tomorrow morning (a matter of 5-10 minutes to spare, remember, I'm a geek). Also Iglo and BCLG to move, if you all do that, it'll be well appreciated, but if you can't, no biggie.
Tubby Rower
15-12-2006, 19:53
will you give a city for it? [:p] I have one that I'd like [lol]
IglooDude
15-12-2006, 20:02
quote:Originally posted by kryszcztov
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
I will play in about 7 or 8 hours...hope that makes your time limit.
I'll be sleeping, but I don't mind firing the game just before I leave tomorrow morning (a matter of 5-10 minutes to spare, remember, I'm a geek). Also Iglo and BCLG to move, if you all do that, it'll be well appreciated, but if you can't, no biggie.
I'll move about 3-4 hours from now.
ill try, i keep loading up civ-as can be seen from civstats cdz game but something or another keeps going wrong!!!
Socrates
15-12-2006, 21:24
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
ill try, i keep loading up civ-as can be seen from civstats cdz game but something or another keeps going wrong!!!
At the moment, you've logged in for both your civs, but haven't closed your session for one of them (not good [blush2] ). You're almost there. [:p]
Tubby, I'll send you an e-Xmas card, if you want. :D
ID, you should know better then to leave your scout wandering through the jungle alone, there no telling what unsavory people he might run into
quote:Originally posted by kryszcztov
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
ill try, i keep loading up civ-as can be seen from civstats cdz game but something or another keeps going wrong!!!
At the moment, you've logged in for both your civs, but haven't closed your session for one of them (not good [blush2] ). You're almost there. [:p]
Tubby, I'll send you an e-Xmas card, if you want. :D
sorry krys did you still manage to play the turn?
Socrates
17-12-2006, 23:13
Nope, and the irony is... I spent something like 10-15 minutes before firing up my PC, only to discover I had missed said turn by... 4 minutes. [eek] Which means I could have played it if I had been nerdy to the extreme as soon as I stepped in my house. I'm still surprised because this turn lasted a lot more than 22 hours, I know it usually lasts more (seems like the clock doesn't have its own battery and is a low-priority process on the PitBoss server), but that more ?... [hmm] No biggie, I'll live with it.
the 22 hours was set like that so that average turn turnaround would be 24 hours :)
sorry about you missing your turn still
Seems you noticed my welcoming party igloo?
any idea on down dates on this game. Some of us would like a concrete answer, so we can get replacements lined up
/paging robi d you assistance may be needed.
IglooDude
20-12-2006, 23:22
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
Seems you noticed my welcoming party igloo?
Yep. They'll be welcomed very warmly indeed. [estwing]
did you notice the back up party?
Tubby Rower
21-12-2006, 12:40
I can't see any parties... I need a better spot for the viewing of battles
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
any idea on down dates on this game. Some of us would like a concrete answer, so we can get replacements lined up
/paging robi d you assistance may be needed.
I'm already in this game so it that would be difficult
( yeah I thought this was the other game....).. Spammed the wrong thread. Thats what i get for hurrying up and trying to post with my boss in the room.
You up to play CDZ group hug for me till dec 30
IglooDude
21-12-2006, 16:17
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
did you notice the back up party?
Yes and we're quite upset about it, uninvited guests crashing the party are always unwelcome.
Tubby Rower
21-12-2006, 16:33
Robboo... group hug will be down as well IIRC
no one confirmed for how long....
IglooDude
21-12-2006, 16:55
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
no one confirmed for how long....
Damn, I forgot all about this. Hang on while I review the threads - it is very likely going to be from the start of the first absence to the end of the last absence, though.
IglooDude
21-12-2006, 22:24
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
so any idea yet ID?
Based on everyone's input, the game is going down about 5min from now, till 6AM EST on the 27th of December.
but i am gone till dec 30 can you leave it up for me to change some builds.
I have internet issues but perhaps i can log in before 3 hours from this post.
ID is it not going down over new years also? if so may as well leave it down until jan 2/3rd
Tubby Rower
22-12-2006, 02:15
2nd or 3rd would work here too. Is that ok ID?
IglooDude
22-12-2006, 12:39
Yeah, sorry for the abrupt takedown. Till the 2nd (or 3rd if necessary) it is, and if anyone wants to give me a specific time/date to bring it up for 20-30min so they can issue queued orders, just let me know.
if its down till the 31th or longer i will not need to que orders. :)
Thanks ID
Socrates
22-12-2006, 13:46
I haven't played the current turn (but I guess there will always be one like that, since the game starts a new turn when all are done). But moreover, I'm away from Friday, January 5 to Saturday, January 13. So I'll be unable to play during that week.
i dont mind stopping then krys but it may be worthwhile to ask around for a sub?
IglooDude
03-01-2007, 13:57
The game is back up. Whoever gets back in there first to run a turn, please post in the thread so I know all is well (I have no way to test access, at the moment).
Socrates
03-01-2007, 14:20
I've just successfully played my turn with both civs. :)
As said in my previous post, I'm leaving the city on Friday afternoon (in exactly 48 hours), and I'm coming back on Saturday morning, a week after that. Yeah I'm going skiing in the Alps. [cool]
I don't know what's Igloo's policy on this (it's your server after all). I'd rather play my turns myself, for coherency reasons, and not lose 8 turns. But it's up to you. I don't intend to leave again before looong this year (if I go to The Hague in February, I could even play there).
socralynnek
03-01-2007, 14:22
You could ask someone to play the turns for you. Maybe grahamiam or whomp...
I guess I need to find someone for me too, cause I am away for a week in middle of January.
If we stop that each time where just one player is away, we won't get this done til Civ VII...
IglooDude
03-01-2007, 15:50
Socralynnek's pretty much summed up my take - Christmas break was one thing, but stopping the game for you for a week means I have to stop it anytime anyone is going to miss more than a couple turns in order to be fair to everyone, and then the game begins stuttering as it needs to conform to the schedules of nine different players.
In my (limited) experience in playing these, you won't have any problem finding someone to fill in for you while you're gone.
Socrates
03-01-2007, 16:00
OK. Who wants to be my sub ? Of course that has to be someone who hasn't read any spoiler.
Tubby Rower
03-01-2007, 16:00
I agree.. Christmas is a time when most people aren't around. Vacation will be something that you will have to endure krys. I feel sorry for you to have to endure the Alps [:p]
Hello there Barbu[beer1]
Now how on earth did you manage to navigate the zoo in the middle without a scratch?
what zoo...thats a promotion farm. :) Someone is going to get a visit from a very promoted warrior. :)
barbu1977
10-01-2007, 16:04
I havent seen a single creature yet in that zoo! Someone must have killed all of them.
IglooDude
10-01-2007, 17:05
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
what zoo...thats a promotion farm. :) Someone is going to get a visit from a very promoted warrior. :)
Which will promptly get obliterated by a rookie axeman... [lol]
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
what zoo...thats a promotion farm. :) Someone is going to get a visit from a very promoted warrior. :)
Only if they survive
quote:Originally posted by IglooDude
Which will promptly get obliterated by a rookie axeman... [lol]
[lol]or spearman
ahhh yes...maybe I should send him home to become a promoted mace.
Tubby Rower
11-01-2007, 13:02
then he'll be obsolete by the time he gets back ;)
ahhh but I have boats to speed up the normal maces. I also taught my units to swim.
kudos to a certain mr d who built stonehenge a few turns ago btw :)
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
kudos to a certain mr d who built stonehenge a few turns ago btw :)
Thank you, for a moment there i didn't think any of cared[cry]
Anyway why don't you send that worker over for a [beer1], he looks mighty thirsty after doing all that road construction:D
hmmm well you can choose which one, i have 4 so its really upto you?
one of which is a mr dudes.
IglooDude
12-01-2007, 16:18
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
hmmm well you can choose which one, i have 4 so its really upto you?
one of which is a mr dudes.
Could you at least name him, so I know which one is which when I return the favor? [lol]
ok- he's called frosty :)
Socrates
13-01-2007, 09:26
I'm back from holiday. :)
welcome back krys, not much happened i dont think
Another traveler in central zoo, so thats the mighty warrior you have been boasting about robboo
Opps...hahahah....yeah.
Now he is going to do his best Monty Python and "Run away run away." IF I get in the forest...you wont be able to kill me. :)
Bring it Aussie. I have been wanting to pay you back for the 1 on 1 PBEM for a while now.
Oh, no doubt he would be tough to kill in a forest but i don't see him storming any cities so excuse me i don't lose too much sleep over him
his job is search and annoy. His big brother will be along in about 50 turns...his job is to rape and pillage.
Tubby Rower
15-01-2007, 13:03
I have some sheep over by me if your units are feeling frisky Rob... I'll pimp them out to you for a tech. They are welcome to visit. But I do have to warn you about the cows... they are mean.
barbu sent a warrior my way, i figured id send him on an incredible journey- thus the warrior is dead and beginning his journey :)
barbu1977
15-01-2007, 15:31
Thanx, I tought my military upkeep was a bit high anyways.
no worries, got anymore you want me to kill just send em along :)
Interesting, then who lost a unit to the injured bear i can see.
Tubby Rower
16-01-2007, 12:51
I accidentally opened ynnek's spoiler thread. I saw nothing except the civs list at the top, then immediately closed it. I, for some reason, thought that it was the Hattrick match list for the CDZ cup even though it clearly says that it is ynnek's civs vs civs spoiler..... I need more coffee. brb
socralynnek
17-01-2007, 10:27
grahamiam is taking the turns for me for a week...but as there is no diplo here you won't see a difference...
except when you come back and half the other civs are dead ;)
quote:Originally posted by socralynnek
grahamiam is taking the turns for me for a week...but as there is no diplo here you won't see a difference...
Well there is this thread which we use to taunt each other which could be considered a form of diplomacy[mischief]
socralynnek
18-01-2007, 11:35
Yeah, but as I can read and post here, i can bash you bastards here still...but maybe grahamiam wants to join bashing here...
IglooDude
18-01-2007, 16:01
quote:Originally posted by Robi D
quote:Originally posted by socralynnek
grahamiam is taking the turns for me for a week...but as there is no diplo here you won't see a difference...
Well there is this thread which we use to taunt each other which could be considered a form of diplomacy[mischief]
Of course, taking each others' cities and pillaging each others' lands is also a form of diplomacy. [slay]
quote:Originally posted by IglooDude
quote:Originally posted by Robi D
quote:Originally posted by socralynnek
grahamiam is taking the turns for me for a week...but as there is no diplo here you won't see a difference...
Well there is this thread which we use to taunt each other which could be considered a form of diplomacy[mischief]
Of course, taking each others' cities and pillaging each others' lands is also a form of diplomacy. [slay]
Yes non verbal diplomacy can be very effective eg.[assw][finger]
grahamiam
19-01-2007, 04:29
what is the problem with ending the turns in this game? very bizarre...
if you mean the units ending and then switching to another one...yeah i agree its a bit odd.
i think he means how you ahve to shift enter to end turn or presss the green button :P
IglooDude
19-01-2007, 15:00
They're both pretty odd. I've got to assume it is a result of the pre-pitboss setup, and I'm loath to futz with it for fear of breaking things outright.
grahamiam
19-01-2007, 15:53
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100
i think he means how you ahve to shift enter to end turn or presss the green button :P
ok, i'll try those tonight :)
Its will be a painin the ass to remember to check every dam unit once we get massive armies.
IglooDude
19-01-2007, 16:43
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
Its will be a painin the ass to remember to check every dam unit once we get massive armies.
Hmmm... That's an excellent point.
Okay, I'll see if I can figure something out this weekend. Apologies in advance for any downtime or disruptions caused. I'll be doing frequent saves, so I don't expect anyone to have to re-do turns.
you may ask one of the pitboss "experts"
IglooDude
19-01-2007, 17:29
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
you may ask one of the pitboss "experts"
Well, I have been running several pitboss servers 24/7 for months, and I am a network engineer by trade, but... *gets off high horse, shoots it, and beats it with a stick*
...good idea. :)
yeah no doubt you know the network side...just the game side is what I meant.
IglooDude
19-01-2007, 18:03
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
yeah no doubt you know the network side...just the game side is what I meant.
Yeah, I probably should have stuck that in [sarcasm] tags or something. No worries. :)
dont worry i will only kill you in this game now:)
oh and the other we are at war in....
IglooDude
19-01-2007, 18:45
quote:Originally posted by Robboo
dont worry i will only kill you in this game now:)
oh and the other we are at war in....
Given your results to date, I'm not particularly worried. [neener]
Tubby Rower
19-01-2007, 19:21
Yeah Robboo is a keen liar and his taunts are 90% empty ;)
liar..I never lied to anyone...yet. ;)
The taunt thing is about 50% true. Sometimes its 90% BS and sometimes its 90 % not BS. BUT there is always a bit of BS involved.
Tubby Rower
19-01-2007, 20:08
quote: liar..I never lied to anyone...yet. ;)ok.. I won't divulge the proof since this would affect another game. [:p]
Hi person that I ran into then ran away from.
Ok now i have a MAJOR issue. I am trying to trade something from one civ to the other and it wont let me. I opened up the diplo, put the item in the offer and sent it. I then exited and entered into the other civ and no offer appears. I went back and forth a few times to no avail.
Any ideas why, because it should be something thats easily done.
IglooDude
20-01-2007, 13:21
quote:Originally posted by Robi D
Ok now i have a MAJOR issue. I am trying to trade something from one civ to the other and it wont let me. I opened up the diplo, put the item in the offer and sent it. I then exited and entered into the other civ and no offer appears. I went back and forth a few times to no avail.
Any ideas why, because it should be something thats easily done.
No idea offhand, but given the thwackedness of the unit cycling, it sounds like that's just another symptom of whatever the larger problem is. Hopefully I'll be able to figure it out this weekend.
Robi...are you sure you dont already have it in the other civ...do they not share everything?
barbu1977
20-01-2007, 14:21
IICR, you don't have to trade, resources are shared automaticly. Is that possible?
No they don't share everything, one resource, one civ. If it was true that swapping/giving was not required then the option to do it in the diplo screen would not come up to do it. Send the offer isn't the problem, it just not recieving it at the other end.
One thing i've thought of is due to the wackiness of the game the offers might not be recieved until next turn but i will have to wait and see.
Sorry if my description of the problem is unclear but spoiler info is involved.
It might be worthwhile seeing if there are any other pitboss games out there with specially made maps and if they suffered any problems
Tubby Rower
20-01-2007, 20:12
I've experienced Robi's problem too. no trading might be checked which excludes trading the resources unfortunately.
It might happen actually because it is AW game however if being played by a team. So, logically, trading within the team should be possible and when the game was tested (in hotseat) that had actually worker. However, the Pitboss has its own glitches and bugs and hard to tell exactly how it would turn out. I know also that in similar setup in multipayer games with simultaneous moves it is working so it should work.
quote:Originally posted by Tubby Rower
... no trading might be checked which excludes trading the resources unfortunately.
Only AW was checked, that trading was not checked. But I don't know how it were when ID actually started the game.
If no trading was on then i would imagine going into the diplo screen it wouldn't give you the chance to do so.
then can we change cities?
if we cant trade we should be allowed to trade cities.
Nope can't do that either BC because when you send the deal one civ it doesn't arrive at the other one to accept it to make it go through.
If we can't fix the problem then my game is basically screwed
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