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Darkness
12-04-2006, 10:13
Civ4 PBEMming is starting to grow on me... ;)
Anybody interested in a new game, 1vs1 or a game with more humans? (or both?)
I have no preference really...
I've finally gotten a copy (borrowed, since the free one is nowhere to be seen), so I'd be in for a game, nice method to see how much I still remember, and how much has changed in the game. It would have to be at a quite relaxed tempo though I'm afraid as I usually can only play evening hours these days, and not every day. I hope that's not a problem...?
Maybe monarch level, continents, standard or large map, default AI number of opponents, and all standard settings? :)
Shabbaman
12-04-2006, 10:38
I'm really not interested in playing a pbem, but if I have some time on, say, a friday night perhaps we could play simultaneous moves or something. Haven't tried that with civ4 yet.
Darkness
12-04-2006, 11:04
quote:Originally posted by Kemal
I've finally gotten a copy (borrowed, since the free one is nowhere to be seen), so I'd be in for a game, nice method to see how much I still remember, and how much has changed in the game. It would have to be at a quite relaxed tempo though I'm afraid as I usually can only play evening hours these days, and not every day. I hope that's not a problem...?
Maybe monarch level, continents, standard or large map, default AI number of opponents, and all standard settings? :)
[goodjob]
That seems good to me.
I'd prefer standard over large sized map, BTW. I think a large map would lead to a very, very long build-up until something actually happens with both human players.
Any leader preference?
Darkness
12-04-2006, 11:05
quote:Originally posted by Shabbaman
I'm really not interested in playing a pbem, but if I have some time on, say, a friday night perhaps we could play simultaneous moves or something. Haven't tried that with civ4 yet.
Unfortunately friday night is not possible for me...
But the idea is nice. Any other nights an option (wednesday and friday are impossibles for me)?
Since I hate playing against him, my first choice pick would be Mansa Musa.
btw, most pbem games are done using pitboss sessions I assume? I'm really a newbie with regard to pitboss since it didn;t come along with the first release of the original game.
Shabbaman
12-04-2006, 11:11
Well then, let's just look when the opportunity arises. I'm short on time during the week anyway, but perhaps some weekend is possible (although not in the very near future, I'm afraid). But then perhaps we could just as well arrange a 4 player (or whatever) game, no doubt there's interest. The only problem is probably finding a date.
Kemal, Darkness, can I join? [mischief] (Don't feel oblidged to say yes.)
Kemal, the more players, the more convenient Pitboss is in contrast to PBEM. But with two to four players I think PBEM is easier. Especially since Pitboss is still in it's beta stage.
Pitboss is probably another thing that won't work nicely until you've bought Warlords. I'm beginning to feel myself drawn into Shabbaman's anti-Firaxis camp. http://www.straland.com/images/smilies/undecided.gif
Shabbaman
12-04-2006, 12:07
Who, me? [slanteye]
Darkness
12-04-2006, 14:26
quote:Originally posted by Kemal
Since I hate playing against him, my first choice pick would be Mansa Musa.
btw, most pbem games are done using pitboss sessions I assume? I'm really a newbie with regard to pitboss since it didn;t come along with the first release of the original game.
I'll be Qin Shi Huang then...
Pitboss? Haven't used it so far actually...
@Matrix: Like I said in the opening post: I don't have a preference about 1vs1 or multihuman. Let's wait and hear/read what Kemal thinks...
@Shabba: Weekends are possible, but just like on your side, not in the near future. A 4-man game would be gun indeed, if we can agree on a date...
Maybe we could make it a 4-player, since a 3 player game on continents doesn;t really work as well I think. Matrix joining is fine, of course.
Darkness
12-04-2006, 15:09
Fine by me!
Let's wait and see if we can find a 4th...
I would like to join and I would prefer a classical PBEM. I don't like many aspects of the simultaneaous moves.
Darkness
13-04-2006, 09:06
OK, 4 players are in
Kemal - Mansa Musa
Darkness - Qin Shi Huang
Matrix - ?
grs - ?
monarch level, continents, some AI, standard settings?
I guess we want to play in 1.61?
I'd say so yes... makes little difference for me, as I'm used to neither version. :)
Darkness
14-04-2006, 10:51
Fine by me...
Kublai Khan for me, please. :) Settings are perfect!
(Monarch in Civ4 is a bit scary though. http://www.straland.com/images/smilies/frightened.gif)
Darkness
14-04-2006, 17:42
Kemal - Mansa Musa
Darkness - Qin Shi Huang
Matrix - Kublai Kahn
grs - ?
monarch level, continents, some AI, standard settings...
Darkness
18-04-2006, 08:41
Kemal - Mansa Musa
Darkness - Qin Shi Huang
Matrix - Kublai Kahn
grs - Huayna Capac
monarch level, continents, some AI (3 or 4?), standard settings...
I think 4 AI is probably better, that way there is an equal amount of civs on the continents.
Do we want 2 humans and 2 AI on a continent, or do we all want our own island with one AI on it?
quote:Originally posted by Darkness
Kemal - Mansa Musa
Darkness - Qin Shi Huang
Matrix - Kublai Kahn
grs - Huayna Capac
monarch level, continents, some AI (3 or 4?), standard settings...
I think 4 AI is probably better, that way there is an equal amount of civs on the continents.
Do we want 2 humans and 2 AI on a continent, or do we all want our own island with one AI on it?
In general I would prefer 1 human, 1 AI. Can we make sure it will be that way with the custom continents script?
But that would still lead to a very long build up same like a large map would... I'd more prefer 4 civs per continent, since that also won't make you dependable as much of which leader your single AI opponent would draw. Facing Alexander instead of Elizabeth (for example) early on can make a big difference I would think in the possibility to develop early on.
I am not dogmatic in that case, it is only a slight preference. Do we want a random map (custom continents?) or one to be made?
Darkness
18-04-2006, 10:58
I agree with Kemal.
I don't really know if we can make sure that 2 humans are with 2 AI on a landmass using the custom continets script. I can try tonight?
quote:Originally posted by Darkness
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I don't really know if we can make sure that 2 humans are with 2 AI on a landmass using the custom continets script. I can try tonight?
It is quite random and there is no guarantee it would work. It might be better to start a SP game and once an appropriate map (continent size and other things) is generated, move the players to the corresponding positions there and then start PBEM using the world builder save. Otherwise, you can never be sure and you cannot check it because you cannot see the map as you are playing in this game.
There is also a problem with the Monarch level here because the starting units and techs for the AI will be different with those of the human player, so these would have to be edited in WB as well. It is also not possible to start the SP on Noble and then start a PBEM (hotseat) with these settings without any editing because then the AI would not get the required units and techs for Monarch difficulties and above.
So, you if wish, me or somebody can start the game for you. It seems that there is no other way to ensure the settings are correct and the distribution of civs is desired. When I yesterday started a game Whomp versus barbu, the right shaped map had been generated on 8th attempt and still I had to assign civs to human players manually there.
Darkness
18-04-2006, 19:18
I just tried, and akots is indeed correct. There is simply no way of guaranteeing 2 humans and 2 AI on 1 landmass. :(
If the others agree, then I'd appreciate it a lot if you could start us up, akots! :)
Yes, that would be very nice. I just have one thought about the 2human/2ai setting. It is like forcing players into 2vs2 alliances, while having continets with only one human is more flexible, but we will see. An even distribution of humans and AI is a must imho.
Ok, I'll do it later tonight then. It will be not edited at all, only starting positions reassigned and starting units and techs corrected for difficulty.
Do you want a standard size map? With 8 players (4 AI and 4 human) it will be very crowded unless water level is set to minimal. Then, you would be probably able to sail between the continents before Astronomy. Is that what you want?
Darkness
18-04-2006, 20:12
I have no objections to a crowded map. If anything it'll increase the action in the first part of the game...
Well, as said earlier, I'd prefer everything random (including water levels) except the distribution of players... so just using the first decent map available with as minimal editing as possible is my preference.
OK, I'll try to generate something suitable in shape and size at random water level.
Here is the save. Passwords pm'ed to all players.
Map is completely unedited, picked it up at the fourth attempt.
Order of play and civs:
1. grs - Huayana
2. Matrix - Kublai
3. Kemal - Mansa
4. Darkness - Qin
5. Montezuma - AI
6. Roosevel - AI
7. Caesar - AI
8. Hatshepsut - AI
Download Attachment: icon_paperclip.gif 4+4-PBEM_BC-3960_to_grs.zip (http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/akots/20064194753_4+4-PBEM_BC-3960_to_grs.zip)
33.93KB
Good luck and keep the spoilers going!
Darkness
19-04-2006, 08:53
OK. Thanks akots!
May be if I just rename it, it would work.
Download Attachment: icon_paperclip.gif qq.zip (http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/akots/2006419201941_qq.zip)
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When if see the Not found error, correct the filename in the address bar so that the % sign is deleted and the file name is matched. Then it should work in any case.
The wrong address bar says:
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/akots/20064194753_4%204-PBEM_BC-3960_to_grs.zip
If you replace it with this, it should work.
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/akots/20064194753_4+4-PBEM_BC-3960_to_grs.zip
It is browser- and forum-specific imho since it replaces "+" with "%20" automatically because it thinks that "+" is some special character. [confused]
Thanks akots, eagerly awaiting the first turn in my mailbox... :)
Lurker reports for duty. :)
Planning to do spoilers? I'd really like to learn how it goes with the latest patch and if ok return to IV.
Ill be glad to lurk as well :)
Darkness
20-04-2006, 22:15
quote:Originally posted by Beam
Planning to do spoilers?
Off course...
But we're waiting for Matrix to get his dvd back, so he can play and send turn 1 on. :)
quote:Originally posted by Darkness
quote:Originally posted by Beam
Planning to do spoilers?
Off course...
But we're waiting for Matrix to get his dvd back, so he can play and send turn 1 on. :)
Did he leave it in the train again? [rotfl]
Darkness
20-04-2006, 22:28
quote:Originally posted by Beam
quote:Originally posted by Darkness
quote:Originally posted by Beam
Planning to do spoilers?
Off course...
But we're waiting for Matrix to get his dvd back, so he can play and send turn 1 on. :)
Did he leave it in the train again? [rotfl]
No, this time his brother borrowed it... [crazyeye]
quote:Originally posted by Darkness
quote:Originally posted by Beam
quote:Originally posted by Darkness
quote:Originally posted by Beam
Planning to do spoilers?
Off course...
But we're waiting for Matrix to get his dvd back, so he can play and send turn 1 on. :)
Did he leave it in the train again? [rotfl]
No, this time his brother borrowed it... [crazyeye]
Cool, one more potential pbem victim. [evil]
http://www.straland.com/images/smilies/cringe.gif
Darkness
23-04-2006, 10:57
[bump]
So, where is it?
I sent this one to Kemal. :)
Got it and played it, standing by to send but I don't know yet on which address Darkness wants to receive the save.
mpstoop AT hotmail DOT com is where I send mine.
Darkness
23-04-2006, 15:39
quote:Originally posted by grs
mpstoop AT hotmail DOT com
That's the one... :)
Darkness
23-04-2006, 16:05
quote:Originally posted by Kemal
Sent. :)
me too...
1st turn completed. :)
Thanks for the map akots! :)
gotta go and start a spoiler now...
Hmm, haven't seen a save for a while now... [sad]
I just got it and just played it!
Thank you, played and sent to Darkness!
Would you guys believe I still send these saves manually...? I just can't get it to work properly via the ingame mechanism, game always freezes. [blush2]
I suppose it is something to do with firewall settings but I just stick to the old-fashioned way for now. :)
Darkness
28-04-2006, 09:07
quote:Originally posted by Kemal
Thank you, played and sent to Darkness!
I was already sleeping at that time. Will play tonight...
BTW: I'm also still sending saves the old fashioned way... [blush2]
me too, whats an SMTP server???
grahamiam
28-04-2006, 17:26
If you have outlook, you can look it up for each of your email accounts, then write it down for CIV. However, even doing that, I still have problems too. I think my virus scanner (TrendMicro) interfers and CIV just locks up. I even turned off the outgoing scanner, but it didn't seem to help (v1.52, haven't tried 1.61 yet).
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