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BCLG100
11-04-2006, 22:22
Anyone want to play a game? im not very good so would be over quite quickly

Matrix
11-04-2006, 23:23
Sure, I'd like to. :) I prefer playing with three players (or more). But a 1on1 is nice as well.

Whomp
11-04-2006, 23:45
I would join however I need to get my pc situation straightened out first. I hope to have to recovery disk today or tomorrow so I'm crossing my fingers.

How about 2x2 locked war. Duel research on Civ4 is kinda cool and adds a dimension.

barbu1977
11-04-2006, 23:50
When will the new patch be out?

Matrix
12-04-2006, 01:47
Who knows. Perhaps never. (i.e. the expansion pack is the coming patch.)

Mistfit
12-04-2006, 01:54
I agree with you Matrix... maybe never. Especially if the disigners are too busy surfing and not working :)

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=123089&d=1144779274

BCLG100
12-04-2006, 02:08
Well sure id be up for a 2v2 locked war, dunno what id have to do though :D, would it be on pangea? or continents? and who would be the 4th?

Mistfit how come i cant look at that link? Sirian aint got a clue about the patch but it aint looking hopeful anytime soon.

Btw this is my 2nd MP game after pitboss one over at cfc, oh and i spose ive played a couple with a friend but he isnt that good so it doesnt really count :)

akots
12-04-2006, 02:35
quote:Originally posted by Matrix

Who knows. Perhaps never. (i.e. the expansion pack is the coming patch.)


No, there should be a patch. Current state of the game can be characterized as essentially uplayable especially in PBEM and to a certain extent with MP.

grahamiam
12-04-2006, 05:37
this all reminds me of the 1.22 patch process for C3C

quote:Tavis appears to have posted this in the secret CFC forum:

"The current status of the next C3C patch is On Hold. This decision was made about a week ago and was the result of several things:

1) Pirates needed the people
2) Fix attempts resulted in varying and disasterous results
3) Civ : Complete

I realize I made some heavy promises back in January, but I am not going to be able to delivery on them. I refuse to deliver another patch that launches like v21 (or worse) so at this point I can't make anymore promises. I have no idea when a patch will be made privately available or publically available."

So maybe 1.22 will all in all be our final patch. I hope not though.

Krys posted this actually [lol] Well, just replace "Pirates" with "Oblivion" and Civ:Complete with CIV:Warlords. Only problem is, that it's Take2 this time, and not Firaxis, that's apparently holding it up (I do beleave Sullla et al on this, as I have no reason not to).

Oh, and I can be a 4th if you need one :)

Darkness
12-04-2006, 11:11
Looks like fun...

Too bad you've already got 4 players... :(

Matrix
12-04-2006, 12:27
Oh? Who's the fourth?

Darkness
12-04-2006, 15:27
grahamiam?

BCLG100
12-04-2006, 15:56
I dont mind either way, just so you know im not too good :)

Whomp
12-04-2006, 16:20
I'm not 100% sure I can do this since I installed my recovery disks last night but no windows. Maybe I'll have it fixed by the patch.[cry]

Tubby Rower
12-04-2006, 16:23
see the cartoon thread (http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=740&REPLY_ID=71384) for additional details on Whomp's computer status

grahamiam
12-04-2006, 16:46
@Whomp: sounds like a reformat is in order [sad]

Looks like we have BCLG100, Matrix, and grahamiam, as well as Darkness since Whomp's comp is DOA.

quote:Well sure id be up for a 2v2 locked war, dunno what id have to do though :D, would it be on pangea? or continents?

I'd be fine with a 2v2 Locked War. I'd prefer small size, whatever landmass we agree on. How about we all choose random civ's?

BCLG100
12-04-2006, 17:11
Sure, do we work out who's on who's side before we start?

barbu1977
12-04-2006, 17:34
Normaly you put the two stronger players on one team and the newbies on the other. That way, we get less forum down time because the size of the spoilers are smaller.

:D

BCLG100
12-04-2006, 17:40
lol, ok well who would be on my side? would make short work of the other team :D

Matrix
12-04-2006, 21:06
Although the game is out now for quite some time, I still don't think we can state clearly who is better than who. So...how about we form a team, BCLG100? :)

BCLG100
12-04-2006, 21:25
yep sure :)

BCLG100
13-04-2006, 02:27
So what do we do now?

grahamiam
13-04-2006, 03:13
well, we still need a partner for me :) hopefully, darkness or whomp will show up and confirm

grahamiam
13-04-2006, 03:15
quote:Originally posted by Mistfit

I agree with you Matrix... maybe never. Especially if the disigners are too busy surfing and not working :)

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=123089&d=1144779274


hmm, must be in the supersecret CFC mod location

quote:grahamiam, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

BCLG100
13-04-2006, 03:40
Ah right ok, well they should do it soon, what needs to be done after that? couldnt we start getting that sorted before we have a final group of players.

grahamiam
13-04-2006, 05:18
yep, let's decide on a map script and starting era. If we go with something later, say Industrial, I think we start with 3 settlers as well as some rifles and explorers, which should get things going immediately [hammer] or we can just go with an ancient start, doesn't matter to me. Map script seems tricky, not sure if I want pangea or some water between the teams.

I don't know how to set it up so it's 2v2 locked war.

Darkness
13-04-2006, 10:04
quote:Originally posted by grahamiam

well, we still need a partner for me :) hopefully, darkness or whomp will show up and confirm


[wavey]

I don't have any preference regarding map/starting era, so whatever you decide is fine with me.

Matrix
13-04-2006, 12:27
I also no preference. But I'm going now. I agree with everything. :)

BCLG100
13-04-2006, 15:42
We'll we're going to have to wait till matrix gets back, are we playing PBEM or anyone going to set up pitboss? Whomp was the one who said about 2v2 but i dont know how to set that up either :). if we're doing 2v2 how about ring?

grahamiam
13-04-2006, 15:56
I've never played ring, so it sounds good to me :) I like new experiences. Also, not sure how to set up the 2v2, but I'll try to fiddle with it tonight. Any advice from the peanut gallery would be appreciated :)

oh, and i hope darkness is strong because he's got a pretty big anchor around his neck now [lol]

Whomp
13-04-2006, 16:12
I think 2x2 is set up as AW. The main difference is that with a research partner both can research the same tech and cut the research time in half.

Darkness
13-04-2006, 17:24
quote:Originally posted by grahamiam

oh, and i hope darkness is strong because he's got a pretty big anchor around his neck now [lol]


I really hate to disappoint you, but the anchor around your neck is even bigger... ;) [lol]

BCLG100
13-04-2006, 18:39
Are we going for an early start as well? just because it would be unfortunate for someone to get an anceint age civ without a UU. are we going to play with barbs on?

Matrix
14-04-2006, 17:44
Hm, in second thought I do have a slight preference. First of all I'm already playing a PBEM on a "wheel" map, so anything but that please. http://www.straland.com/images/smilies/undecided.gif Secondly, the earlier the better. Classical or Medieval era instead of Ancient is ok, but not much later please.

And in case you're wondering "Hey, I thought that dude was gone?!": I'm with my parents who don't have Civ4.

BCLG100
15-04-2006, 04:33
ok so whats your ideas on the other type of map we can play? i'd say plains but wasnt the last GOTM plains

BCLG100
16-04-2006, 17:38
or anyone else.......

Matrix
16-04-2006, 18:06
Plains is fine.

BCLG100
16-04-2006, 19:36
ok so are we doing PBEM then? does anyone actually know how to set up the 2v2 locked thing?

Matrix
16-04-2006, 20:28
Just start a new PBEM and see what happens/what options you have. That's what I do when learning something new.

But I might as well to start it, if you like.

But shouldn't we choose our civs first? We could also choose random. [tongue]
Otherwise I'd like Kublai Khan.

Darkness
16-04-2006, 23:20
Random is fine with me.
If not random, then I'd like Alexander...

BCLG100
17-04-2006, 01:00
well random is cool if not id like Louis. But yer if matrix would like to start it that'd be good.

grahamiam
17-04-2006, 03:52
random is fine with me.

BCLG100
17-04-2006, 03:52
also just checking but would be on 1.61?

grahamiam
17-04-2006, 04:56
I will have to upgrade for another game, so I hope so.

Darkness
17-04-2006, 12:14
I already upgraded for my 1vs1 with grs as well as the "ignition" game, so 1.61 would definately be my preference.

BCLG100
18-04-2006, 00:31
so are we just waiting for matrix to create it now or do we need to do anything else?

Matrix
18-04-2006, 00:41
I can create it. But I forgot I lent my dvd out to my brother when I patched it, with result I can't play until I get it back. [blush2]

Darkness
18-04-2006, 20:19
quote:Originally posted by Matrix

I can create it. But I forgot I lent my dvd out to my brother when I patched it, with result I can't play until I get it back. [blush2]


And when are you going to get it back? [crazyeye]

BCLG100
20-04-2006, 22:52
........matrix?

Darkness
20-04-2006, 23:12
IIRC he said friday in another thread...

BCLG100
20-04-2006, 23:47
Ah ok, thanks i never saw :)

Matrix
21-04-2006, 01:40
quote:Originally posted by Darkness

And when are you going to get it back? [crazyeye]
Tomorrow. :)

BCLG100
22-04-2006, 02:16
So today then :)

Darkness
23-04-2006, 11:56
I know you've got your DVD back Matrix, 'cause I got the ignition save from you...
Any plans to create this one soon?

Matrix
23-04-2006, 13:48
Ah yes, will do so now. I forgot I'd create it myself. [blush]

Matrix
23-04-2006, 14:28
Here's the first savegame for BCLG100. After him it's Darkness' turn, then grahamiam. Random Civs, and I appear to play as Japan.

I've clicked on permanent alliance, but couldn't set who's who's partner. I guess you'll have to decide once you've met each other.

Since 'plains' doesn't have a lot of shores, I thought it would be nice to create some natural borders by playing on a rocky map. That's why the game is called "Rock on". [rolleyes]

Download Attachment: icon_paperclip.gif Rock_on_BC-4000_to_BCLG100.zip (http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Matrix/2006423133326_Rock_on_BC-4000_to_BCLG100.zip)
19.05KB

Darkness
23-04-2006, 15:39
OK. Nice. We'll see how it goes...

@BCLG100: My emailadress is: MPStoop~AT~hotmail~DOT~com

BCLG100
23-04-2006, 15:49
oh ok, well seeing how permanent alliance isnt with our partners do we sign peace with the first person we see or wait for our set ally?

And as this is my first PBEM, i just play my turn, then save, then attach that file to an e-mail and send it to darkness?

Matrix
23-04-2006, 16:22
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100

oh ok, well seeing how permanent alliance isnt with our partners do we sign peace with the first person we see or wait for our set ally?
That might indeed be better. That way you know for sure your ally is close to you. But we'll see how it goes.
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100

And as this is my first PBEM, i just play my turn, then save, then attach that file to an e-mail and send it to darkness?
Either that, or you fill in the right SMTP server for your current ISP (e.g. for me that's "mail.home.nl") in "My Details".
Read the manual to see how it works exactly.

BCLG100
23-04-2006, 17:04
ooooo dont wanna do too much too soon :D, am gonna post a spoiler for lurkers just as soon as i find a sub forum of someone not playing :)

Im the indians, fear my worker!

I checked what everyone else was, bit of a variety.

BCLG100
23-04-2006, 17:56
Well i think ive played and sent it now :)

Darkness
23-04-2006, 18:33
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100

Well i think ive played and sent it now :)



Good news:
Yep, I got it...

I sent it on tho grahamiam now (the yahoo adress I had)

Bad news:
I'm bloody Roosevelt! :(

@BCLG100L: Which leader are you, Gandhi or Asoka?

BCLG100
23-04-2006, 19:33
ooooooo crap i forgot, im gonna take a stab that im Gandhi. Be good if graham was in this side of the world though :)

BCLG100
24-04-2006, 01:56
my spoilers in whomps forum, for anyone lurking this thread :)

grahamiam
24-04-2006, 01:58
got it! Darkness, please send the next save to gramiam AT gmail DOT com. Thanks!

BCLG100
24-04-2006, 01:59
oh and matrix im BCLG100 AT hotmail DOT com :)

BCLG100
24-04-2006, 02:48
The game sets your alliance with the first person you meet, im with graham, so then its darkness and matrix i assume :)

Gyathaar
24-04-2006, 03:10
Clicking permanent alliances option usually means you can form permanent alliances after you have researched either communism or fascism. (To have alliances from the start you have to change the players team number in the setup screen .. or in the worldbuilder save)

grahamiam
24-04-2006, 03:55
well, I have a little trade icon next to BCLG so I assume I'm allied with him, as I didn't see him on my screen.

Gyathaar
24-04-2006, 04:55
If you are allied with him, you should see what tech he is currently researching next to the score.. and you should be sharing line of sight, so you would be able to see him on screen.. the trade icon just means there is a trade route :)

Darkness
24-04-2006, 10:21
quote:Originally posted by grahamiam

got it! Darkness, please send the next save to gramiam AT gmail DOT com. Thanks!


Will do! :)

@grahamiam and BCLG100: You've got at trade route on turn 2? Damn, you must really be close together...

grahamiam
24-04-2006, 18:10
quote:Originally posted by Gyathaar

If you are allied with him, you should see what tech he is currently researching next to the score.. and you should be sharing line of sight, so you would be able to see him on screen.. the trade icon just means there is a trade route :)

<s>So, how do you set up locked alliances then?</s>Forget it, gotta learn to read :)

So, how do we want to do this? I really wanted locked alliances so I could experience how this works in CIV. Now, we just have a jury-rigged C3C setup [dunno]

Darkness
24-04-2006, 18:15
We're not very far in: Restart with the tips that gyathaar posted?

grahamiam
24-04-2006, 18:19
that's my preference

Darkness
24-04-2006, 20:20
Mine too. I am also quite curious about this locked alliance thingy. The save is in my inbox. I'll hold it until we've got a respons from Matrix and BCLG100.

BCLG100
24-04-2006, 20:40
i dont mind, i had a pretty good start and got my spoiler up and running but if anyone wants to start again then sure, out of interest whats the problem with how things are now?

grahamiam
24-04-2006, 20:47
There are no permenent alliances or wars setup, which is how it was supposed to be setup. If it was setup with permenent alliances, teamates would share research, line-of-sight, etc. We're curious to see how this works since it's different than Civ3.

BCLG100
24-04-2006, 20:49
Isnt what me and you have a permanent alliance?

grahamiam
24-04-2006, 22:53
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100

Isnt what me and you have a permanent alliance?

no, that really is a trade route [lol] not sure how we got that, but probably along the river. We do not share line-of-sight, so there's no way we are allied. reread what Gyanthaar wrote, and you'll see what Darkness and I are talking about.

BCLG100
24-04-2006, 23:09
Ah right yer i kinda get whats going on, though i have absolutly no idea how to change things, we may have to get a map maker to set it sort of scenario style?

Gyathaar
25-04-2006, 00:49
If you want I can take your current save and edit it to put you into permanent alliances?

BCLG100
25-04-2006, 00:53
well that seems cool, i like my start :)

is that ok with everyone else or does everyone really want to start again?

Gyathaar
25-04-2006, 00:53
If so.. link last save and specify who should be teamed with who :)

BCLG100
25-04-2006, 00:55
erm darkness has it, i dont mind who should be linked with who. may be better idea for me to be with graham because i know where he is but its up to everyone else, one of you has to put up with me!

Darkness
25-04-2006, 01:01
That would be great Gyathaar! [cool]

This is the current save (zipped):

Download Attachment: icon_paperclip.gif Save.zip (http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Darkness/2006425005_Save.zip)
125.44KB

If you can ally grahamiam with BCLG100 and Matrix with me, then that would be great!

Gyathaar
25-04-2006, 01:01
Actually.. just tested... it seems editing the same would cause some problems (all line of sight to home area for one of the team members would get lost).. so you could get better results if you start over..

I can try to edit thou

BCLG100
25-04-2006, 01:05
well if you wouldnt mind giving it a go otherwise spose we can just restart.

Gyathaar
25-04-2006, 01:17
Tried editing.. but it doesnt work out well for the team that has blacked out line of sight for own territory.. cant even see their own units or cities..

This is how you set up teams thou.. in the setup screen, use the circled numbers.. players that has the same number after them are in the same team.

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Gyathaar/200642501715_teams.JPG
38.61KB

BCLG100
25-04-2006, 02:06
ok well cheers for your help, guess its upto whatever everyone else decides.

grahamiam
25-04-2006, 04:07
Ok, I'll start anew since I'm being the bitch [lol]

grahamiam
25-04-2006, 04:12
Here's the setup, all on Prince. Selected Permenant alliances and Permenant War, and looks like we're working. I have LOS with BCLG100. Save sent to Matrix's email.

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/grahamiam/200642531144_Civ4ScreenShot-RockOn2-Starting.JPG

Darkness
25-04-2006, 10:03
Thanks for trying Gyathaar! :)

OK, let's restart (I had only played a single turn anyway) with grahamiam's set-up.

@Matrix: We need to talk some strategy here. I'll contact you after I've seen my start. :)

Gyathaar
25-04-2006, 12:15
Why do you want the permanent war or peace btw? that means you will never be able to go to war with the other team since you start at peace..

And the permanent alliances checkbox will just allow your 2 teams to merge into one huge team after you research communism or fascism :P

Darkness
25-04-2006, 12:56
quote:Originally posted by Gyathaar

Why do you want the permanent war or peace btw? that means you will never be able to go to war with the other team since you start at peace..

And the permanent alliances checkbox will just allow your 2 teams to merge into one huge team after you research communism or fascism :P


So, basically, what you're saying is that if we just set Matrix and myself as team 1 and BCLG100 and grahamiam as team 2, then we would be set to play a 2 vs 2 game?

Gyathaar
25-04-2006, 12:57
quote:Originally posted by Darkness
So, basically, what you're saying is that if we just set Matrix and myself as team 1 and BCLG100 and grahamiam as team 2, then we would be set to play a 2 vs 2 game?

Yes :)

BCLG100
25-04-2006, 13:25
So whats happening now?

Darkness
25-04-2006, 14:05
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100

So whats happening now?


Well, this means that grahamiam's save isn't the one we want either.

I'll see what I can do when I get home from work tonight (or one of you can do it, if you want).

BCLG100
25-04-2006, 14:14
Well Matrix sent me a new save, starting from beginning same map so am just sending that on to you now :)

Darkness
25-04-2006, 15:18
quote:Originally posted by BCLG100

Well Matrix sent me a new save, starting from beginning same map so am just sending that on to you now :)


I know. But according to gyathaar's explanation, that save is not correct either.

Gyathaar
25-04-2006, 15:20
Yeah, that save is not correct.. unless you really want to be locked into peace with other team entire game :)

BCLG100
25-04-2006, 15:24
dont we? oh ok then

Gyathaar
25-04-2006, 15:25
However.. I tested and in this case I can edit the save to fix it

Darkness
25-04-2006, 15:25
You can fix it? OK, should I upload the save?

Matrix
25-04-2006, 15:26
Pfff!

I'll restart. [rolleyes]

Darkness
25-04-2006, 15:29
Save I got from BCLG100 about an hour ago...

Download Attachment: icon_paperclip.gif save again.zip (http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/darkness/2006425142835_save again.zip)
20.02KB

BCLG100
25-04-2006, 15:29
Sooooooo are we doing Rock on 3 now?

BCLG100
25-04-2006, 15:40
ok so just got a save off matrix, do i actually play the game?

Gyathaar
25-04-2006, 15:45
I am confused.. the save Darkness linked has permanent war and peace clicked (which is bad).. but permanent alliances is not cliked (dont matter what this is in this game).. but noone is teamed up...

Perhaps I should just set up a game for you? :P are are all playing random Civs?

BCLG100
25-04-2006, 15:46
well matrix just sent me a new save, i could try and upload it.

edit-am not sure what im doing wrong with the uploading :S

Matrix
25-04-2006, 15:48
Wow, lots of crossposting.

I just started a new game and the save is to BCLG100. Should he play that? It would save Gyathaar the effort.

Permanent alliance and permanent war/peace are off.
1st: Matrix (England), team 1
2nd: BCLG100 (America), team 2
3rd: grahamiam (Aztecs), team 2
4th: Darkness (Mongolia), team 1

E-mail address already filled in too.

Gyathaar
25-04-2006, 15:51
That sounds good.. now get to playing so I can lurk! :P

BCLG100
25-04-2006, 15:52
ok then ill get playing and send it on to darkness, my spoilers in whomps forum :)

gyathaar very welcome to lurk my civIVor game as well, i have the worst start ever!

Matrix
25-04-2006, 16:47
You should send it on to grahamiam. :) I mentioned the sequence in my previous post.

Darkness
25-04-2006, 16:50
OK, then! Let's get on with the game

BCLG100
25-04-2006, 17:08
yep sorry i just didnt manage to get round to doing so yet, had to do some garden work, played and just searching for grahams email now :)

how come darkness starts off with more points than i did?

Matrix
25-04-2006, 19:21
I have no idea. He doesn't even have a city yet. Though I have, so perhaps we have points together.

BCLG100
25-04-2006, 19:23
probably something like that, guess we'll find out when he's played his turn

Tubby Rower
25-04-2006, 19:27
if you guys are playing permanent alliances there are some differences to what Civ 3 had.

1) you can research the same tech
2) points are shared
3) you can see into a team member's cities
4) you can ping the map and draw lines via the strategy layer (I haven't tried this yet with a partner, but it works good for SP and keeping things straight)

BCLG100
25-04-2006, 19:31
well ive noticed the pinging thing in SP games and could see grahams area.

Does this mean that if one team beats the other team down then that is the end of the game or does that team then fight it out between themselves?

Matrix
25-04-2006, 20:16
No, surely you win together.

Tubby Rower
25-04-2006, 20:25
Matrix is correct. According to the civlopedia permanent alliances are basically like one civ with 2 rulers (and ~half the upkeep)

BCLG100
25-04-2006, 21:38
allthough you can do combined research can you also do singular research?

Tubby Rower
26-04-2006, 03:42
yes. but say you needed pottery really quick. Both of you could dump beakers into the bucket to get it quicker. Could be useful for religion runs or techs with GP generated from them.

BCLG100
27-04-2006, 00:38
ah k cool, might just end up happening :)

BCLG100
07-05-2006, 17:12
i havnt seen a save in awhile....

grahamiam
07-05-2006, 17:22
i sent to darkness on May 4th (3680BC save)

Darkness
08-05-2006, 00:01
I sent it on to Matrix on may 5th...

I'll resend.

BCLG100
08-05-2006, 01:58
matrix has been here, he's been playing in the pitboss game!

Matrix
08-05-2006, 16:03
Yep, and I played it on the 5th as well, so BCLG100 should have it.
I'll resend as well. [rolleyes]

BCLG100
08-05-2006, 17:56
it may have been a problem on my end but ill play the turn matrix sent me and send it

Matrix
08-05-2006, 18:19
I perhaps my Civ4 didn't sent it by accident. Who knows. Anyway, we're on track again. :)

BCLG100
08-05-2006, 19:46
yup ive sent it twice to gramiam to make sure at least one gets there :)

BCLG100
16-05-2006, 01:49
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3564

that was posted in the other forum to do with pitboss issues, not sure whether it helps...

Darkness
09-06-2006, 18:52
[bump]

So, who's got it? It's been 5 days since I've seen a save...

grahamiam
09-06-2006, 18:58
I sent 3000BC on June 4th. I have not recieved a save since.

Darkness
09-06-2006, 19:28
quote:Originally posted by grahamiam

I sent 3000BC on June 4th. I have not recieved a save since.


Yep, I got that one. I sent on 2960BC to Matrix the same day.

BCLG100
10-06-2006, 13:50
im sorry guys i think its me, exams are piling up and i played the save and just forget to send it, once again-my apologies.

BCLG100
21-06-2006, 16:51
now i havnt seen a save in awhile, and ive sent graham the last save i had about twice now i think :)

grahamiam
21-06-2006, 17:25
yes, you sent it to me on the 15th and I played it and sent it on to Darkness. You also sent in 3 days later I think, and I didn't have time to respond, sorry :)

BCLG100
21-06-2006, 17:31
oh no worries, just making sure it wasnt me holding it up :)

BCLG100
22-06-2006, 18:33
so erm matrix? darkness?

Darkness
22-06-2006, 20:01
Last save (2760BC) I got from grahamiam was on the 16th. I played that and sent it on to Matrix...