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anarres
11-03-2003, 13:57
I expect ERIKK to go for a Spaceship win, and he is probably about 30 turns away (maybe less).

I have to go for domination I think, as Persia is scientific and I will not be able to catch up (even though i have a slightly higher tech rate, according to the F11 screen).

At the moment I am researching ecology, then synthetic fibers. I intend to upgrade a couple of hundred tanks to modern armour.

I currently have 8 tank armies and 2 spare empty armies, and I expect to build another 3 or 4 before I get MA.

ProPain
11-03-2003, 13:58
You want domination by just finishing the Otto's or do you plan to take some of ERIKK's territory as well?

anarres
11-03-2003, 14:03
I think I have to take some of ERIKKs territory too. I hope it's not too much though.

I expect ERIKK to be going for Mech Infantry, as he is probably expecting me to attack. I just hope I can get enough MA first!

It will be interesting to see how ERIKK uses Radar Towers. You have to sometimes put them within reach of the enemy, and if the attacker (me) can get to them and destroy them it makes taking the city that much easier. The key is working out how heavily to defend them, whilst leaving enough defenders in the city. This attack may call for Radar Artillery...

col
11-03-2003, 14:20
I dont think there's enough land to achieve dom without some of Erikks land.

I'm looking forward to this. A real modern war. It will be interesting to see how balanced Civ3 is between attack and defence in this situation.

Erikks strategy only makes sense if he believes he will win the space race. He must be relying on his defence. It will be interesting to see how he intends to withstand Anarres attack with MA.

Will we see nukes flying??

anarres
14-03-2003, 01:11
Updated my website:

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/Turns247-258.html

Here is the curent situation:

http://danwilliamson.net/erikk2/pics/258.minimap.jpg

http://danwilliamson.net/erikk2/pics/258.F11.jpg

anarres
14-03-2003, 01:17
Although I have a good powerbase, ERIKK is at least 1 complete tech ahead of me. I will have to attack within 20 turns to have any chance of stopping him launching, if indeed he is not building his own army to attack me.

What I really need to do is find out how many tiles there are to get the domination limit, I can always know my own muber of tiles by the F11 screen, although I will have to check out the multiplier for land area to tiles. (Somehow 1346 tiles seems too much...)

WildFire
14-03-2003, 01:35
Wow. I hope that I never have to play you 1 vs 1! Just build up enough guys, maybe get a spy in Persia if you dont have one yet. If possible, you could save up enough money to try to sabotage production in a city making a spaceship part. Hopefully, he wont be in anarchy. Have you tried to go for the Internet wonder? Or Longevity? Those two are very good wonders, and you could probably benefit greatly from them.

Btw, you dont really live in Iraq do you?

anarres
14-03-2003, 22:39
Here is the diplo from turn 259:

anarres says:
so, we gonna have another treaty of soem kind?
anarres says:
or not?
ERIKK says:
sure
ERIKK says:
what are you thinking of?
anarres says:
hmm
anarres says:
let me think
anarres says:
first,
ERIKK says:
?
anarres says:
do you want ecology?
ERIKK says:
I have it
ERIKK says:
5this turnb
anarres says:

ERIKK says:
yup
anarres says:
so that's at least 1 full tech you are ahead...
ERIKK says:
great!
anarres says:
cos i have seen your MI!!
anarres says:
50+ in a stack
ERIKK says:
got lots of 'm
ERIKK says:
well?
anarres says:
2 mins please
ERIKK says:
k
ERIKK says:
20 turn non-agression maybe?
ERIKK says:
but, errmmm, what is a non agression worth if you are ginna attack anyway?
ERIKK says:
it seems inevitable
anarres says:
who says i am attacking?
ERIKK says:
you tactics seem offensive
anarres says:

ERIKK says:
with these cities and roadings..
anarres says:
my tactics are sensible whatever i eventually do...
anarres says:
it has to be an option
anarres says:
but an *option*
ERIKK says:
that is an emptey statement
anarres says:
i know
ERIKK says:
so?
ERIKK says:
lets have a peace agreement but you must pillage that rails
ERIKK says:
i dont like it
anarres says:
eh?
anarres says:
you should have said that when i *started* roading them!
ERIKK says:
bla bla bla!
anarres says:
sell me computers?
ERIKK says:
you have loads of workers
ERIKK says:
for how much?
anarres says:
dunno, how much do you want?
normal pricing is nonsense now, it all depends on what *we* think it's worth...
anarres says:
so, suggest something?
ERIKK says:
i dont know
ERIKK says:
you must research modern armour and give it to me when you have it
ERIKK says:
a gentlemens agreement
anarres says:
that tech is more to research...
ERIKK says:
yeah, a bit more expensive
ERIKK says:
I will give you some money
ERIKK says:
but as you said prices dont count anymore
ERIKK says:
it is a tech for tech IMO
ERIKK says:
that is what counts now
anarres says:
do you have other techs?
ERIKK says:
That is classified info
ERIKK says:
I am not gonna tell you, sorry
ERIKK says:
if I have one, i will not trade it
anarres says:
if it's tech for tech i ant a more expansive one like fission...
anarres says:
k
ERIKK says:
ok
anarres says:
?
ERIKK says:
I will research fission
anarres says:
no, sorry
ERIKK says:
you give me modern armour for fission
anarres says:
only if you had it
ERIKK says:
computers is expensive too BTW
anarres says:
otherwise i could research fission which is still cheaper and let you research synthetic fibers...
no worries, we can do our own research
anarres says:
lets forget the idea
ERIKK says:
ok
ERIKK says:
I will research modern armour myself then
ERIKK says:
and you too!
anarres says:
so, how about 20 turns peace from now?
ERIKK says:
ok
ERIKK says:
form 265
anarres says:
but...
ERIKK says:
265-285
anarres says:
i'm fed up with the treaty ending after my turn has finished!!!!
anarres says:
*every* time
ERIKK says:
it ends in your 285 turn
anarres says:
so i'd like the treaty to finsih after *your* turn this time please
ERIKK says:
sure
ERIKK says:
you want a first strike!
ERIKK says:
hehe
ERIKK says:

anarres says:
i'd like the *chance* for it, whether or not i use it...

anarres
14-03-2003, 22:45
Damn smilies are missing! :(

I am 10 turns from Synthetic Fibers, and 7 from Computers. 20 turns is just long enough to get the techs I need for an attack, and hopefully not long enough for ERIKK to get nukes as well as Synthetic Fibers.

anarres
14-03-2003, 23:02
I also forgot to mention I put science to 0%, as I need to rush improvements before I mobilise for war again.

anarres
16-03-2003, 21:53
Here are the notes for the last 2 turns:

266: Research Computers, set science to 0%. I have decided to get as many troops as possible, in the hope of taking out ERIKK's production centers with my MA before he can get my cities with his ICBM's. I reckon I can cope with a few tactical nukes, as long as I am careful with spreading out my troops in my empire every turn.

267: Mobilise for war, I have rushed all the improvements I need to in my cities. Spend another turn at 0% science.

Next turn I will go for Synthetic Fibers, and an attack as soon as the treaty is over. I *really* hope he doesn't get tactical nukes by then, but I fear he will.

col
16-03-2003, 22:47
quote:Originally posted by anarres
I reckon I can cope with a few tactical nukes, as long as I am careful with spreading out my troops in my empire every turn.


Your turns will take even longer than usual - say about 8 hours instead of 4...

anarres
17-03-2003, 20:41
Turn 268

I just did a rough MANUAL count of tiles in the game, and my potential territoy is VERY CLOSE to the domination limit, without having to take any of ERIKK's land. It may even be over the limit, I am not 100% sure.

I recently mobilised for war, but I will de-mobilise next turn and rush cultural building and settlers like mad. Maybe I can avoid having to attack at all.

Aggie
17-03-2003, 21:02
That would be a great 'sneak-attack'. I don't think he will expect this...

anarres
20-03-2003, 20:59
Yea!

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/ERIKK2/pics/276.message.jpg

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/ERIKK2/pics/276.minimap_big.jpg

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/ERIKK2/pics/276.score.jpg

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/ERIKK2/pics/276.power.jpg

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/ERIKK2/pics/276.culture.jpg

anarres
20-03-2003, 21:31
I have closed this thread since nothing is a spoiler anymore.

Please post any comments to the CFC thread:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42108