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Arghis
25-06-2005, 08:51
The (right) place to discuss about the (slow) 8 player game ! :D

Arghis
25-06-2005, 08:53
So first question ! Has Propain been abducted by Aliens ?

Beam
25-06-2005, 10:55
I offer my services as a permanent replacement or duo-play. I've been replacing Erikk for one whole turn a year ago and I do not recall a single aspect from the game at that time.

Arghis
26-06-2005, 11:24
Very good. I shall contact others to send you what is necessary, unless they saw this thread ...

Lt. Killer M
26-06-2005, 17:15
seen this - will contact the beamer as soon as I have the save on my hands (Tuesday)

digger760
27-06-2005, 10:26
Its not ProPain that is to blame, he does not have the correct sav file and unfortunatly killer went away just after he sent it to PP. Killer is back on Tuesday.

Arghis
29-06-2005, 10:02
Well, my goal is not to blame anyone; i've had technical prob with my isp recently which has delayed a bit various games. Just, it's for proposing an alternate solution.

ERIKK
29-06-2005, 10:40
I think somebody has done some voodoo practice on this game. It is doomed but the players keep on stuggling to keep it rolling.

Diplo message to Arhgis/Babylon - I see more and more bowmen appearing near my borders. I dont know what you are up to but please keep them at bay. They are bound to die on my vet hoplites!

Beam
29-06-2005, 11:20
If Killer sends me the sav we can continue the struggle tonight. I'd appreciate if PP can brief me by mail about deals etc., all other players feel free to contact me :)

Markstar
29-06-2005, 12:39
Well, iirc ProPain said he would be around more from now on, so I think we should give him another chance since it is obviously not his fault this time.

anarres
29-06-2005, 12:47
Arghis is currently trying to trigger his GA against me, which is weird since HE declared war on ME and now complains I won't take peace at the end of a bowman's arrow. [hmm]

Don't worry Arghis, I'll welcome your bowmen with pointy spears. ;)

Arghis
29-06-2005, 13:42
well, it's not giving or not giving another chance to whoever, it's just continuing playing a few turn even if one of us has some trouble :-)

Arghis
29-06-2005, 13:52
Well, now let's discuss another subject of very high importance !

the name of this game.

how can you live playing a game with a name such far away of lyrism that 8 player ! The game Swimming pool (or pool of death has it has been nicknamed by some), is a game which have a name which is very fun (if not poetic).

So i ask : "What name do you want to have for the current game we play where there is eight player ! ? !

[party]

For instance, Octo-push seems a ridiculous name we can use to better apprehend this epic challenge ! hmmm ...

ERIKK
29-06-2005, 13:53
[lol] I didn't even know you two were at war!!!

Are you trying to get that GA against me too Arghis? It seems like you are advancing towards me... [hmm]

Arghis
29-06-2005, 13:56
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Arghis
29-06-2005, 14:01
Please, when you say me something abouth this game, include which country you are playing, cause i never remember who is who ! lol !

I'm scouting Japan borders this times, as japanese use to do againt my will some years ago :-)



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anarres
29-06-2005, 14:17
Heh, I am Japan, ERIKK is my northern neighbour. You are shitting on BOTH our doorsteps. :D

ERIKK
29-06-2005, 15:01
I am Greece, you are Babylon and anarres is Japan. ProPain (or Beam) is Mongols.

So, if you are at war with Japan, I suppose you move to the southeast instead of the northeast... ;)

anarres
29-06-2005, 15:30
Hey ERIKK you wanna join the coalition of the unwilling against the evil Babylonians? Intelligence reports they have cluster arrows, designed for maximum civilian casualties! [eek]

BTW Arghis, you can still beg public forgiveness for starting a war with me, as can killer. [groucho]

digger760
29-06-2005, 15:36
Killer is resending the sav as i write this post. I beleive it Propain is up next.

Markstar
29-06-2005, 17:37
I am very interested if the save will reach me before July. ;)

digger760
30-06-2005, 10:10
Well i thought killer was resending the sav, but there is no hint of movement on the turn tracker [mad]

Lt. Killer M
30-06-2005, 10:36
seems my uplaod to turntracker yesterday failed.

digger pointed that out to me, so I sent it again

ProPain
30-06-2005, 12:44
rceived the save this morning, will play today, have to work till 21:00 GMT+1 however so I wont be able to play before that time.

Holiday starts saturday for me, I'll have plenty of time to play except from 9-16 july when I'll be in Luxemburg without internet access.

Arghis
30-06-2005, 15:48
quote:Originally posted by anarres

Hey ERIKK you wanna join the coalition of the unwilling against the evil Babylonians? Intelligence reports they have cluster arrows, designed for maximum civilian casualties! [eek]

BTW Arghis, you can still beg public forgiveness for starting a war with me, as can killer. [groucho]


Are you kidding ! i asked several times to leave my territory and you continue scouting it. As if at this stage of the game the world was not big enough for you to send your units somewhere else ...

Anyway, i'm not a warmonger, so you don't have much trouble to expect from me. Perhaps one or two borders incident, to spice up the things, but nothing dramatic.

As for the holidays of Propain, i suggest that if the save shall arrive to him at this moment, we send a copy to Beam :-) (with the password)

digger760
30-06-2005, 17:58
yes ProPain, is it possible you can leave somebody some instructions for your turn. I am trying to get the game moving but it near impossible to keep any sort of momentum, if we hold off all the time.

anarres
30-06-2005, 18:45
quote:Originally posted by Arghis

quote:Originally posted by anarres

Hey ERIKK you wanna join the coalition of the unwilling against the evil Babylonians? Intelligence reports they have cluster arrows, designed for maximum civilian casualties! [eek]

BTW Arghis, you can still beg public forgiveness for starting a war with me, as can killer. [groucho]


Are you kidding ! i asked several times to leave my territory and you continue scouting it. As if at this stage of the game the world was not big enough for you to send your units somewhere else ...

Anyway, i'm not a warmonger, so you don't have much trouble to expect from me. Perhaps one or two borders incident, to spice up the things, but nothing dramatic.

As for the holidays of Propain, i suggest that if the save shall arrive to him at this moment, we send a copy to Beam :-) (with the password)

[hmm]

My warrior scouted through your territory and was heading south to return home instead of going East then having to tresspass through ERIKKs land to get home.

Didn't the war start before your reign anyway? Where are you getting this information?

ProPain
30-06-2005, 23:44
Just got home from work and I;m really devastated. Will play first thing tomorrow morning and from there or I'll be readily available for 3 weeks except for the L'burg part. Will look for a replacement for sure.

Sorry about not playing tonight, but I started working at 8am and I really cant think straight anymore atm.

ProPain
04-07-2005, 19:46
Considering several of you feel I;m holding up the game too much my place is up for grabs.

All the open thread lurkers can consider this an invitation to apply for the open spot, please post here and as soon as the others agree on who's gonna take my spot I'll be gone. I'll continue playing untill someone is found.

Markstar
04-07-2005, 22:12
Why do you want to give up you place? I thought you had more time from now on? [confused]

bed_head7
04-07-2005, 22:42
I will step in if ProPain doesn't want to play anymore. I have not read anything about this game anywhere.

Beam
05-07-2005, 02:08
Just replied to PP I can step in if the other players agree.

ERIKK
05-07-2005, 09:31
I think Beam was first

bed_head thanks for stepping up, we might need you in the future!!!! :)

digger760
05-07-2005, 09:43
I though you had free'd up some to to ProPain, but if you want somebody to replace you then it no bother to me.

bed_head7
05-07-2005, 09:49
quote:Originally posted by ERIKK

I think Beam was first

bed_head thanks for stepping up, we might need you in the future!!!! :)


I didn't realize there was already a volunteer when I posted, but you can certainly keep my name in mind for the future, and I will make sure not to read any spoilers.

Arghis
05-07-2005, 10:47
hey Propain, you're not obliged to leave ... just, if you know you have some trouble to play for a time, finding a replacement player seems a good solution. I don't want you to leave. After that, it's your decision.

Beam is ok for me, and we can still contact Bed Head if we have another delay. :-)

digger760
06-07-2005, 09:36
Has anybody seen Killer, it has been his turn for 2 days now [sad]

Arghis
09-07-2005, 10:19
If killer doesn't show himself soon, i suggest that Digger send his turn to Beam for instance, so that the game can advance a bit. I'm sorry if some considers this as a kind of penalty, but in fact, you're right. it's like loosing a turn. But at least you can expect someone trying to minimize the damage to your strategy. ;)

Lt. Killer M
09-07-2005, 13:44
got it.

sorry boys, you knew I had surgery last week! Will play later today, then send in the evening.

digger760
11-07-2005, 12:50
i never knew!!, hope it was nothing serious.

ProPain...your turn.

ERIKK
11-07-2005, 13:38
...no Beam instead of PP????

Markstar
11-07-2005, 13:50
If Beam replaces ProPain we should tell Matrix so he can adjust the turn tracker. And of course:

Welcome Beam! :)

digger760
11-07-2005, 15:25
Well, although ProPain made a statement, that he felt people thought he was holding up the game. I do not have that opinion. I for one don't point the pointy stick at anyone person. I have been hassling everybody for some reason or another to play the sav and i think that everybody has had there fair share of heal dragging, except possibly Erikk, in which i can't think of a time that Erikk was slow.

But ProPain, you're work is keeping you busy, that is for sure and you have a little "Poppet" on the way too. If you feel you can keep the pace, i.e 1-3 turns a week, then by all means stay in. Otherwise....

Beam is up Scotty.

digger760
13-07-2005, 10:02
Whoops, i just relised ProPain said he was on holidays this week [sad]

What are everybody else plans for the summer...are we gonna have all players availible all at once anytime this summer?

anarres
13-07-2005, 11:20
Ahh whoops, I actually sent a PM to PP too. [blush]

From Thurs-Sun I won't be able to play if it reaches me.

digger760
13-07-2005, 13:08
Is it possible to add a feature to CDZ, so that people can look up who is on holidays, like a calendar, instead of having to trawl through threads to remember who is on holidays.

ProPain
19-07-2005, 11:15
Back from holiday.

As work and private obligations are not letting up, I'd rather have Beam take over. I'll mail him the game details.

Sorry guys.

Arghis
19-07-2005, 12:01
If i go in holidays, i shall before gave infos to a replacement player ...

Beam
19-07-2005, 16:30
Played and send to Arghis by Turntracker. :) Used C3C, is that OK? Or should PTW be used?

digger760
19-07-2005, 16:47
C3C is Ok...dont think it would work in PTW actually, even though it started in PTW

Beam
19-07-2005, 16:52
So, any clues about PTW / C3C mix of characteristics in this game? I saw maptrading already is possible and Iroqs are cultural leader so I assume Agri isn't in this game.

digger760
19-07-2005, 17:40
well theoretically it is all PTW rules, but i would'nt bet my house on it.

anarres
19-07-2005, 18:51
"Rules" are the same, but the internal formulas change *sometimes*....

For example, corruption is just a formula and is calculated according to whatever patch you are playing.

Civ traits/units/terrain/the whole map/OCN/techs, etc are all "rules" and hard coded in to each save.

If you have a specific question ask and I may know. :)

digger760
27-07-2005, 12:20
anarres, when are you gonna play [saiyan]

anarres
27-07-2005, 19:19
I'm really sorry but the last week or so I'm getting about 1 hour a day when I'm not either at work or sleeping/eating/getting ready for work. :(

At least, I can play tonight - I know for sure I will get home by 10pm. :)

(FWIW we are moving office this weekend and I'm essentially being dumped with all the hardware stuff for 40 people, including new systems...)

Sorry again, I should have posted that I may be a bit slower than ususal this week.

Markstar
28-07-2005, 15:39
I!m can't access my CDZ email until Saturday, anarres, could you maybe send it to markstar_at_gmx.net only this once?

Sorry about this. [blush]

digger760
29-07-2005, 09:53
If i dont see it before 5pm today, you might as well wait until saturday.

anarres
29-07-2005, 12:15
Oh boy Markstar - I only just saw your message! I can email it on to you tonight, but probably won't be home until 9pm or later. Sorry. :(

digger760
29-07-2005, 14:36
Killer probably has that sav as well, since i see my name accidentally used in the turn tracker, immediately before anarres

anarres
29-07-2005, 15:23
I hit *stop* in my browser before it finished uploading. I doubt he got it.

Lt. Killer M
29-07-2005, 19:27
I got nothing, sorry. last from turntracker was superfast

anarres
29-07-2005, 23:12
ok sent

Beam
05-08-2005, 22:51
Sav for Arghis, TT was down for me and I am working from my lap on a yacht in Southampton with just a GSM dial-up.

Download Attachment: icon_paperclip.gif 8player_710BC to Arghis.zip (http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Beam/20058522513_8player_710BC to Arghis.zip)
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ERIKK
05-08-2005, 22:57
Done it for you beam, maybe I can play one more turn tonight or tomorrow b4 I go on holiday! :)

digger760
16-08-2005, 13:50
opps, i pm's Erikk, only later did i remember his post about holidays :(

digger760
02-09-2005, 15:51
Whats up with Killer, anybody seen/heard from him?

Darkness
02-09-2005, 16:30
quote:Originally posted by digger760

Whats up with Killer, anybody seen/heard from him?


He's away for his work (somewhere in the Baltic, IIRC)...

EDIT: See: http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3027

Markstar
29-09-2005, 11:56
Turn tracker says the save is with me but I don't have it. :(

anarres
30-09-2005, 15:01
I resent it last night, hope you have it now.

digger760
07-10-2005, 10:40
I just had a look at the stats from the turn tracker...we are averaging 10 days per turn. We are on turn 96 of a possible 540? (2050AD)....At this rate I expect we will finish in just over 12 years time.

16+ PBEM is much better...at 4.8 days per turn and on turn 20 it should finish in about 7 years time

Lt. Killer M
07-10-2005, 12:32
seems I was too hasty: I played and uploaded, but this seems to have failed. I didn't wait to check - stoopid!

I can't post before Monday, as the file is on my office PC [blush]

ERIKK
07-10-2005, 18:42
bleh! this game is never gonna end!

Lt. Killer M
07-10-2005, 20:19
I am sorry - just too busy atm. I guess I have 4 more weeks to work ony my modeling, then prepare my talk, which will take a week, too - but the talk I have to give at the meeting is in 3 weeks. So I tend to be too hasty with anything but work [blush]

Arghis
22-10-2005, 16:48
Hello

sorry for being away for so much time

i've no more personnal computer as i have moved away from home. I'll be able to play again in something like 2 weeks, until this time, you can either play my turn with a replacement player or skip it.

See you later

digger760
24-10-2005, 12:37
I think we will have to wait based on:
~Killer also being rather busy ATM;
~so many people most likely having read the other spoliers (even if they are out of date) it would be difficult to find a replacement and,
~with Civ4 on the cusp of release. I would say most are not that bothered.