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DrAlimentado
13-06-2005, 03:21
This asshole robbed me a couple of days ago, hes got nothing except a high SA (30mil) - but all his other stats are 20-30k, nothing.
He had to probe me first (no spy). Okay, so he got me for 3 mil, no biggie. More annoying are the unnessecary spy/sentry casaulties from the x1 probe, but one steal, I don't care.

Then he probed me again the next day, I didnt have much cash so no x15 attack. So I messaged him, telling him that I ain't his farm and he should back off.

This evening I get in and find he has robbed me again (and again for not much cash but annoyingly a probe as well) and he has replied to my PM with;
quote:
iam sry wat i did to you and i need to get somthing and please dont spy if you do i will ask exc_lebenese to sab you ok thax please reply


So I tried to sab his BPM's. annoyingly I seem to be too high in spy to get through... I fail 11 times... unbelievable!! I have 68mil spy to his 24k sentry...

If anyone wants to have a go please do, 'exc_lebenese' does not exist in KoC, so make of his threats what you will.


studdymate

Military Stats
Strike Action: 30,683,328
Defensive Action 61,672
Spy Rating 24,160
Sentry Rating 38,944
Covert Skill: 5
Covert Operatives: 643
Siege Technology: ???
Attack Turns: 82
Unit Production: 40

Treasury
100,245 Gold

Weapons
Name Type Quantity Strength
BPM Attack 118 10,000/10,000
Dragonskin Defend ??? 2,560/???
??? ??? ??? ???/???
Guard Dog ??? 58 15/???
Knife ??? 453 5/5



His TFF is too small for me to cause him casaulties and he has no real TBG to steal. Little fucker.

Melifluous
13-06-2005, 11:29
OK,

I have tried all I can.

He now has 22 fewer BPMs...

Hope this helps you sleep easier at night :)

Melifluous

DrAlimentado
13-06-2005, 14:00
w00t! [fdevil]

good work Meli [ninja]

how many did you do at a time? I started of by trying 10 at once (max for non-elves i think) and then just 1 at a time (neither succeeded obviously). According to KoC forums if your spy is much higher than their sentry then you should be able to get more at once (but maybe less often from your spy outclassing their shitty sentry too much.)...?

Melifluous
13-06-2005, 14:07
Well I tried 1 at a time and got a couple...

Then went to 10 at a time and hit him twice for 10.

Used all 11 attacks = 7 misses (2 at 1, 5 @ 10) and 4 hits (2 at 1, 2 @ 10).

My spy rating is around 9mill and it ranks around 14k.

I have about 140 Wires for just over 7000 spies.

Weird huh?

Melifluous

DrAlimentado
13-06-2005, 15:41
very very strange...

on the strength of these facts I'd say the 'ratio theory' (that a 1:1 ratio of hooks to spies/dogs to sentries is best) is looking shaky.

Mistfit
16-06-2005, 00:33
I don't know if you are still after this guy or not but hey...

quote:Your spies successfully enter studdymate's armory undetected, and destroy every single Dragonskin of the 1 found in studdymate's armory. Your spies all return safely to your camp.

He's also 5 BPM's lighter [fdevil]

Mistfit
16-06-2005, 00:36
Oh yeah he's won't be buying any BPM's for a bit either:D
quote:22 minutes ago studdymate 910,196 Gold stolen

DrAlimentado
16-06-2005, 01:20
[lol]

I think he's got the message now [ninja]

Melifluous
16-06-2005, 01:22
He still has this...

quote:
Blackpowder Missile Attack 108 10,000/10,000


Melifluous

Melifluous
16-06-2005, 01:27
He now has 30 fewer [fdevil]

Melifluous

Mistfit
16-06-2005, 01:29
LMAO!!!

DrAlimentado
16-06-2005, 03:29
guys... why are we still hitting this guy? I mean in this instance the guy got sabbed and I didn't hear from him again... objective accomplished! hitting him again dosen't do anything except invite retribution back on us.

besides, retaliation is one thing but I don't like the idea of vindictivally sabbing someone! what do we want now? for him to leave the game? isn't it enough that he was leaving us alone? i just don't understand the motivation.


also if we fuck him off enough and unfairly enough it also makes the intervention of a higher power much more likely.
who knows how active the commanders in his chain are at protecting their lower ranks, but studdymate is (was) a fairly reasonable slayer account, almost certainly created by a big sellof at some point. He is in an independent chain with some high powered accounts above him...

really, some mayhem and revenge is all good - but I don't want to be part of spiteful and vindictive play. call me a pussy if you will, but its also strategically a bad move, so we shouldn't do it for that reason anyway.

Shabbaman
16-06-2005, 12:19
Give the man a cookie ;)

Melifluous
16-06-2005, 12:50
*sigh*

You take all the fun outta life.

What's the point of infinite power if you can't beat on the little guys?

Anyways I recieved this from his commander dooi...

quote:
piss somone on your own size mate dont sab studdymate all else i will do somthing to you


Short and sweet.

I stopped now.

Melifluous

Mistfit
16-06-2005, 14:19
Oh all right... He did attack me overnight though...he got away with 436 gold..hehe

anarres
16-06-2005, 18:15
Ben, why not PM him and make offical peace? Just to clear the air now. I never understood the grudge thing...

Mistfit
16-06-2005, 18:28
I don't look at it as a grudge...

I see it as an "eye for an eye" type situation

But that's just an opinion of one psychotic clownhttp://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Mistfit/2005516171049_Mistfit_smilie.GIF

DrAlimentado
16-06-2005, 20:58
quote:Originally posted by Melifluous

*sigh*

You take all the fun outta life.

What's the point of infinite power if you can't beat on the little guys?

Anyways I recieved this from his commander dooi...

quote:
piss somone on your own size mate dont sab studdymate all else i will do somthing to you


Short and sweet.

I stopped now.

Melifluous


The point is we don't have infinite power! If we all had accounts that were too tough to be hurt by sabbing (ie. if you can buy back ~50 BPM's/IS's a day and have a good sentry you cannot be seriously hurt except by an extreme mass action) then maybe we could feel invulnerable, but we don't.

And then, really? the only point of power in KoC is too bully the little guys? My idea of fun in this game is being able to rob huge amounts gold! [charge]
of course its also fun to give some dickhead a bloody nose with some sabbing, but it dosen't make sense to make mortal enemies in this game!

Maybe if we were more invulnerable to sabbing ourselves there could be fun in sab-wars with some big boys [ninja] but it means specialising everyone to sab or slayer, and takes powerful accounts to get there.

In any event just picking on the little guys is poor sport imo.

DrAlimentado
16-06-2005, 21:12
"eye for an eye" is fine :D

but its a question of proportion and timing, if this happened to you then how would you react?

- you farm a player, he asks you to stop, you hit him again.
- he tries to sab you and fails, his commander(+1) sabs you for 4 hits (4-40 weapons), and you get a curt message from the player.
- you dont attack him again.
- a day later another player in their chain sabs you for 5 more BPM's (1 hit?) and he hits you for your gold too.
- then you get hit for 30 more BPM's (3 hits?) by the same commander.

by now you have lost maybe 80 BPM's, over half your armoury worth 60 million gold. And you can probably expect it to continue, how do you expect them to react...

Mistfit
16-06-2005, 21:22
If you didn't want us to hit him why this?

quote:If anyone wants to have a go please do, 'exc_lebenese' does not exist in KoC, so make of his threats what you will

DrAlimentado
16-06-2005, 22:32
I did want him hit, but there is a difference between hitting him and hitting him over and over again even after he stops what he's doing ;)

when you hit him again I thought it was okay as it was just a little hit - but I posted the 'he's had enough now' message for a reason [tongue] perhaps I should have said more firmly 'please do not him again' but I will know next time to be more exact.

Mistfit
16-06-2005, 22:39
All of my spying/sabbing/attacking took place within a 10 min timeframe on the 15th. I've not hit him after you said "I think he's got the message now"