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He Stapel, made this thread for you alone [cool].
Would you be so kind to post a screenshot of your starting position in the open thread at CFC? Thanks.
This is my last peek in this until the game is over [tongue]
My starting position after turn 1. I simply settled right away:
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/stapel/2003427215752_AvS2.jpg
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WildFire
27-04-2003, 22:31
Ouch, not much bonus.
That's a fucking oasis compared to my average start position. ;)
I lack a bonus grass tile in the first 8. Aggies has one :( . So it takes some turns to get a granary and then a settler. The wheat is now irrigated and a road is being constructed on the forrest right to the south. There is a fine spot for a 2nd city there. All together it is a fine start!
after 20 turns:
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/stapel/200342819558_AvS021.jpg
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I might be a bit of an asshole to say this (sorry for that) but why the granary? You already have that bonus tile irrigated and you will grow fast enough but you just lack those shields...
Are you planning to sent unprotected settlers into the field? (I have seen anarres do this...)
I almost always sent unprotected settlers in the field. Not when raging barbs but otherwise always unless at war or barbs already visible. Let those new cities build their own protection.
Also why not build a granary? That one bonus tile isn't that great. Granary will let you regrow quicker and thus produce faster. I would choose to do the same.
1. I do not lack the shields. The river forrests are ok.
2. I did send one settler out unprotected by mistake any way. It was lost to a barby. I put the settler on goto and forgot to guide it with a warrior. I do not fear the barbies to steal money, but the 1st settler being killed really sucks!
quote:Originally posted by stapel
1. I do not lack the shields. The river forrests are ok.
2. I did send one settler out unprotected by mistake any way. It was lost to a barby. I put the settler on goto and forgot to guide it with a warrior. I do not fear the barbies to steal money, but the 1st settler being killed really sucks!
I noticed the forests. I always love to build units-settler-units-settler :) But I am in the minorty over here. It seems almost everybody builds a granary first!
Losing a settler that early is quite a drama IMO! That sucks!
Loosing my first settler by stupidity..... I simply didn't pay attention :aargh:
Turn 105:
hehehehehehe
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/stapel/20036914244_TGL.jpg
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War vs Rome!
After taking Veii with a mercenary, I enter a golden age. I captured two Romans cities. Rome itself will fall in two turns!
Rome a Carthagian city?
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/stapel/20036139113_Rome2.jpg
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What are you long term plans stapel?
I want to conquer and fully settle my island. After the Romans are Toast, the Jerries will be my next victim. Then Spain will be finished. Aggie & I agreed not to attack each other: so space / diplo (not possible I think) or culture.
If I am lucky I can settle on his island before he has fully settled it. I don't expect that btw.
I will post a minimap when home.
hehehehe
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/stapel/2003627212338_bye bye Rome.jpg
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The germans have one town left. In 2 or 3 turns, they are gone. In my last turn I got a leader. I maximized research and will have Music in 4 turns. I plan to rush Bach's...
I do have Bach's. The Germans are no more. Sistine in 11, if I'm lucky. Forbidden palace in 12 turns in Rome.
Turn 180 or so. I am a democracy now. Only the Spanish will be fought. I also have a FP (and Sistine and Copernicus) so corrution is ok now. I think I will try to get an culture vic. I am ahead and rising! all cities build culture stuff. I will put research low, money high and rush more cultural stuff!
Whatch out Stapel, once Aggie sees what is happening he can start rushing these things too
and you will never get 150% (or twice) as much culture as the next best civ!
I am aware of that! But my culture is really rising. I simply saw the opportunity and think
I should give it a go!
OK :) But I guess you must make sure that before you reach the 100K there will be no Diplo vics
or Spaceship launches from Aggie's side... [lol]
What's your total culture score and how much are you making per turn ? How many buildings are close to double their culture value ?
If you also give the date the game is at and how far you are up the tech tree that will give a good indication as to the possibility of 100K culture victory. I can give you a pretty good indication as to the feasability of it.
[groucho]
Only 5000 something culture now.... Makes me wonder.. Maybe I should maximixe research and go for space!
Yes I would...the increase you saw was probably the result of the doubling of your temples or libs as they are often built in waves around the same time period, the score suddenly jumps but then plateaus....for a long time !
I will crush the Spanish in 12 turns:
Our border:
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/stapel/200381116384_Spanjolen slopen.jpg
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We are in turn 230 now. I have ToE, but the last turn Aggie wasn't even one tech behind. Though I am in democracy and have a 4 turn research with positive cashflow. This pretty much means Aggie is stealing techs.
Spain has 5 cities left on my continent. In 6 turns I will conquer them.
A culutural vic seems impoddible, but if any, it goes to me.
A UN vic is hard to tell. The Spanish will not be wiped out completely, as they have two cities on Aggies island. The Japs are annoyed with me. I need to build the UN i Guess.
Since I can outproduce Aggie, a space vic should be mine.
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