Game 5!!

[ERIKK]

This game is [u]full</u> :)

Currently signed up:
- Flux
- OnCider
- DrA
- Stapel
- ERIKK
- barbu
- squidbeastie

[Socrates]

Good, ERIKK. :) I see you have JUST changed your sig, back into business again ? [cool] I'll only play in one game (Game #4), so I'm not interested in playing in Game #5. But what interests me with Game #5 is the possibility to have an order receiver from that game, and vice-versa, like we did with Games #1 and #2.

[Stapel]

Count me in!

[DrAlimentado]

w00t!!

[barbu1977]

I could play, but I'd also would have prefered 1 game.

If flux and/or OnCider want to play 2 games Krys and I could leave them our spot in game 4 and we would only need 1 more player on game 5.

[OnCider]

I'd prefer to play just one game for now - I'm running another game on another forum.

[Socrates]

[bump]

I volunteer for order receiver in this game. :) But we'd also need one for Game #4. And you guys should obviously set up this game first.

[DrAlimentado]

*in a spooky yet persuasive voice*
you are feeling like playing the classic of all strategy games, the grandaddy of multiplayer, the life experiance that is known to us as 'the game of Diplomacy'. you will sign up immediately for the 5th diplomacy game. once we start playing you send all your orders on time, hopefully you will engage in lots of actual diplomacy too, but we will take what we can get as we don't want to push our luck... SIGN UP NOW!SIGN UP NOW!SIGN UP NOW!



this is a bump on behalf of the 5th diplomacy game

[OnCider]

In the hope that this game will get going, I thought I'd post my preference list:

1. France
2. Italy
3. Turkey
4. Russia
5. Germany
6. Britain
7. Austria

Although I don't really mind as its been a while since I last played.

[barbu1977]

Put my name up there.

[DrAlimentado]

And then there were six...

Currently interested:
- Flux
- OnCider
- DrA
- Stapel
- ERIKK
- barbu

just 1 more player needed!

[squidbeastie]

Ok, you don't know me, and I don't know you, but I'll gladly sign your treaties with the same florish that orders my armies into your capital this fall!

Like my attitude? Then I'll take the reins of the seventh power. I'm green as hell so I may take a bit of a beating, but that dosn't worry me. What I lack in Diplomacy experience I like to think I make up in low cunning....

[OnCider]

Excellent!

Can everyone post any nation preference lists then we can move towards getting started.

[barbu1977]

As you may have seen on the diplo-4 topic, I'm leaving on vacation tomorow until may 9th. You may seek a replacemet player if you want, if not the first move will have to be on friday may 13th.

My preference:
1-Russia
2-France
3-Austria
4-Italy
5-England
6-Turkey
7-Germany

[squidbeastie]

You know, I'd prefer a random real, but if I'm going to express a preferance:

1-France
2-Turkey
3-Britain
4-Russia
5-Germany
6-Austria
7-Italy

P.S. barbu1977 I'll take your first moves for you [fdevil]

[ERIKK]

Great. Now the nation pref list... We have time enough - more than 14 days to prep for the start!

squidbeastie OnCider ERIKK barbu DrA Stapel Flux
1-France 1. France 1. Germany 1-Russia 1. France 1. Russia
2-Turkey 2. Italy 2. Austria 2-France 2. England 2. Germany
3-Britain 3. Turkey 3. Italy 3-Austria 3. Germany - no pref -
4-Russia 4. Russia 4. Russia 4-Italy 4. Turkey - no pref -
5-Germany 5. Germany 5. Turkey 5-England 5. Italy - no pref -
6-Austria 6. Britain 6. France 6-Turkey 6. Austria - no pref -
7-Italy 7. Austria 7. Britain 7-Germany 7. Russia 7. Italy


Flux please post your country preference list!

[DrAlimentado]

1. France
2. England
3. Germany
4. Turkey
5. Italy

7. Austria
7. Russia

[Stapel]

1. Russia
2. Germany

7. Italy

[squidbeastie]

Is flux still interested? He hasn't any posts...

[ERIKK]

I am starting to doubt it. He posted an interest in the game 4 thread. Then the game 5 thread was created (a long time ago). I send him a PM a couple of days ago but he did not open it.

Looking at game 4, maybe Krys wants to join this game when flux doesnt.

[DrAlimentado]

I spoke to Flux this weekend (IRL), he says he is still interested in this game - now the site is back up hopefully he will post here asap.

[flux]

hi

1 - england
2 - germany
3 - france
4 - russia
5 - austria
6 - turkey
7 - italy

my list sorry for slow on post

i all set now next we meet in battle

cheers flux

[ERIKK]

squidbeastie OnCider ERIKK barbu DrA Stapel Flux
1-France 1. France 1. Germany 1-Russia 1. France 1. Russia 1-england
2-Turkey 2. Italy 2. Austria 2-France 2. England 2. Germany 2-germany
3-Britain 3. Turkey 3. Italy 3-Austria 3. Germany - no pref - 3-france
4-Russia 4. Russia 4. Russia 4-Italy 4. Turkey - no pref - 4-russia
5-Germany 5. Germany 5. Turkey 5-England 5. Italy - no pref - 5-austria
6-Austria 6. Britain 6. France 6-Turkey 6. Austria - no pref - 6-turkey
7-Italy 7. Austria 7. Britain 7-Germany 7. Russia 7. Italy 7-italy



Damn this is difficult! But I think I have found a reasonable solution.


ERIKK - Germany (1st choice and only as 1st choice)
flux - England (1st choice and only as 1st choice)
OnCider - Italy (2nd choice and highest choice for Italy)
Stapel - Russia (1nd choice (joined) / Barbu can have Austria (2nd highest for Austria))
Barbu - Austria (3rd choice - see Stapel)
DrA - France (1st choice (joined) / squid can have Turkey (highest choice for Turkey))
squidbeastie - Turkey (2nd choice - see DrA)

France is difficult but for DrA his 2nd and 3th are already taken.
Also squid and OnCider can have there 2nd choices. The solution as above seems a very good one.

Russia, Barbu gets his 3rd choice but Austria is not populair.
There is one alternative if Barbu objects:

Erikk - Austria (2nd choice)
Stapel - Germany (2nd choice)
barbu - Russia (1st choice)
The rest stays the same.


If anyone finds a better solution, then show it to us! :)

Barbu - it's your call: I am ok with Austria too. Its either a 1-1-3 or a 2-2-1.

[squidbeastie]

In which case I'm changing my preferance list! ;)

When do we get started, my Turks are rairing to go!

Oh, and will someone sketch out the details of where I post my orders to, and how I tell other players what to do :)

[OnCider]

quote:Originally posted by ERIKK



Damn this is difficult! But I think I have found a reasonable solution.


ERIKK - Germany (1st choice and only as 1st choice)
flux - England (1st choice and only as 1st choice)
OnCider - Italy (2nd choice and highest choice for Italy)
Stapel - Russia (1nd choice (joined) / Barbu can have Austria (2nd highest for Austria))
Barbu - Austria (3rd choice - see Stapel)
DrA - France (1st choice (joined) / squid can have Turkey (highest choice for Turkey))
squidbeastie - Turkey (2nd choice - see DrA)

I ran the preference lists through with my selection routine and it came out this way too.

[squidbeastie]

Hello...

Barbu should be back from holiday, hope you had a good one. What's the next move?

[DrAlimentado]

We are all set on countries? good.


ERIKK - Germany
flux - England
OnCider - Italy
Stapel - Russia
Barbu - Austria
DrA - France
squidbeastie - Turkey


Same schedule as the other game?


Friday - Move Orders
Sunday - Retreats (if any)
Monday - Build/disband Orders (if any)


Is Friday too soon for first moves?

[DrAlimentado]

bleh, stapel is away isn't he?

[ERIKK]

Yeah we should wait to next friday. We will use the same schedule as game 4. I would like to see everyone report 'in' too. :)

[OnCider]

How do we go about Diplomacy? Is there a preferred method? Should we post email address and/or msn addresses?

[barbu1977]

Austria is good for me as it mixes players situation from the last 2 games.

Ready to start. Let's schedule first move for may 15th.

[squidbeastie]

quote:Originally posted by barbu1977

Ready to start. Let's schedule first move for may 15th.
?The 15th is a sunday, I don't mind a change in order timing, but it may be simpler to stick with the form.

I'd like to start as soon as possible[charge](but there isn't too much choice for Turkey, but others may have different ideas). We could try for this friday, and call it off if someone cant work with that.
quote:Originally posted by OnCider

How do we go about Diplomacy? Is there a preferred method? Should we post email address and/or msn addresses?
Ditto to that.

[ERIKK]

emails
Could all please PM me your emailadresses and MSN adresses (if available)? I will redistribute them to all members. Better not post adresses in the forum as they are picked up by spiders.

startdate
Stapel will be back by the 15th (thats what Barbu meant). So then we can start. The first orderdate will be that following friday. Orders will be PM'd to krys.

schedule
We will use the schedule as stated in the "what you need to remember thread" (http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1605).


Weekly standard schedule :
- Monday, after results are posted : turn starts ;
- Friday, 20:00 : deadline for movement orders ;
- Friday, after 20:00 : results are posted on CDZ ;
- Saturday, 20:00 : deadline for retreat orders ;
- Saturday, after 20:00 : retreats are posted on CDZ ;
- Monday, 20:00 : deadline for adjustment orders (falls) ;
- Monday, after 20:00 : adjustments are posted on CDZ (falls), turn ends, next turn starts...


The moment the orders are posted depends on the availability of the order reciever. Most of the times Krys will be around Friday late at night. For the rest check that thread and remind that we play quite loosly here at CDZ. People can miss deadlines due to circumstances. As long as they are valid we not immediately ruin the game with NMR's.

[squidbeastie]

Are times GMT?

And when can we start negotiating?

[ERIKK]

Check the thread squid:


Time is the GMT one : it applies for the whole year (so it effectly changes twice a year, due to light saving time). So :
- during winter in the Northern hemisphere, 20:00 GMT means 20:00 in England, and 21:00 in the Netherlands ;
- during summer in the Northern hemisphere, 20:00 GMT means 21:00 in England, and 22:00 in the Netherlands. they are GMT.

As far As I am concerned you can start right away but it would be wise to send me your email and MSN as requested in my post before. If you dont knwo the players email or MSN you can still send PM's at CDZ.

[squidbeastie]

Doh! Sorry, my oversight, just getting lazy, I remember reading that now.

[flux]

so orders need to be sent on friday 20th of may

need clarification

cheers flux

[ERIKK]

Yeah Flux, friday the 20th.

I sent a mail on all MSN email adresses again. All adresses are known now so you all can add each other. I already did. ;)

Good luck!

[ERIKK]

All remember to get ready for the next turn this friday!

Next deadline (spring 1901 movement orders) : Friday, May 20, 2005 at 20:00 GMT.

Sorry but I havent been around much for diplo but will sent some PM's for game 4 and 5 later today... I contacted some of the players but to some others I havent spoken yet..

[blush2]

[flux]

[wallbash]hi

we may have a problem. I know DRA in RL
DRA has not been seen for the past week and this is perplexing and worrying me slighty in RL. Nobody sees to have been able to track the guy down.
As we have not started the game yet i think it ight be wise and prundent to pospone the start of the game for a week.
i sorry to be the bringer of bad news but i do believe that we should give him a chance to contact us and let us know whether he can play or not.
this is a slighty unusual position to be in.
I really think we should give him another week to contact one of us
btw has he contacted any of you guys

im not sure whats happening

but as i said before i think if its not to much of a inconvinence to every that we pospone the start date for a week.

wanna give him a chance to make contact.

yours flux[wallbash]

[ERIKK]

He has read my PM last night but did not respond... He is also playing game 5 by the way. Dunno if we should delay - we have waited very long IMHO, maybe DrA can post here to say what he thinks. After all: he has been online on CDZ today:

DrAlimentado offline Moderator 979 17 May 2005 03 Apr 2003 the cookie jar 19 May 2005

My concern lie more with Stapel who hasnt read my PM yet and is also playing game 5... ;)

[squidbeastie]

I've no problem with Russia not moving, makes my life easyer!

If DrA has been online then he still exists, shall we ask everyone to get there orders in by the deadline, and then see what happens. They might still come through with their moves, or they might be late. I saw staple on msn, yesterday, and (as we didn't actualy discuss anything) I quote:
(me)Good afternoon Tsar;)
(Staple)Hi there!
(Staple)Dude, you got me at an impossible time!
(me) No worries
(Staple)I'll be online tomorrow, all day
(me) See you then

There you go, I didn't see him the next day, but I might just not have noticed, diplomacy of the highest order, I'm sure you'll agree.

[Stapel]

I'm online now :).

[ERIKK]

hehe,

all have showed activity on the game except DrA (apart from logging in on CDZ and reading PM's). I dont need to have a delay yet. If DrA requests one we must consider it of course. DrA knows our CDZ view on NMR's so no worries here.

Schedule stays at it is right now! :)

[anarres]

DrA should be able to make it. I will remind him...

[barbu1977]

Krys is the turn Taker right?

[squidbeastie]

I hope so, I've sent my orders to him!

[ERIKK]

Yes he is. It is all posted in [u]this</u> thread!

Sent your orders in a PM to Krys.

[DrAlimentado]

I'm around.

[squidbeastie]

All good, I'm 24 today, and drunk now, diplomacy will recomence by monday, maybe even before!

[barbu1977]

[bday]

[smokin]

[party]

[drunk]

[rotfl]

[whatsthis

[Socrates]

Austria:
A Budapest - Serbia
F Trieste - Albania
A Vienna - Galicia

England:
F Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea
A Liverpool - Edinburgh
F London - North Sea

France:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Marseilles - Piedmont
A Paris - Picardy

Germany:
A Berlin - Kiel
F Kiel - Denmark
A Munich - Burgundy

Italy:
F Naples - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Rome - Tuscany
A Venice - Piedmont

Russia:
A Moscow - Ukraine
F Sevastopol - Black Sea
F St Petersburg(sc) - Gulf of Bothnia
A Warsaw - Galicia

Turkey: F Ankara - Black Sea.
Turkey: A Constantinople - Bulgaria.
Turkey: A Smyrna - Constantinople.

[ERIKK]

It has started...

I made a results thread (in the CDZ fashion ;))

Link: http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2718

[squidbeastie]

Thanks ;) A good birthday was had. Heat, exaustion, rollercosters, music, and above all, beer, have taken their toll, but I'm back in business, and will be diploming from tomorrow.

[ERIKK]

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/ERIKK/200541519719_mad2.gif



REMINDER! IT'S ORDER NIGHT TONIGHT!

[Socrates]

Austria:
F Albania - Greece
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania
A Vienna - Trieste

England:
A Edinburgh - Norway
F North Sea - Holland
F Norwegian Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Norway

France:
A Marseilles - Spain
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal
A Picardy - Belgium

Germany:
A Burgundy - Marseilles
F Denmark Hold
A Kiel - Holland

Italy:
A Tuscany - Tunis
F Tyrrhenian Sea Convoys A Tuscany - Tunis
A Venice - Tyrolia

Russia:
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden
F Sevastopol Supports A Ukraine - Rumania
A Ukraine - Rumania
A Warsaw - Galicia

Turkey: F Ankara - Black Sea.
Turkey: A Bulgaria - Rumania.
Turkey: A Constantinople - Bulgaria.

[Socrates]

Austria:
Build A Budapest
Build A Vienna

England:
Build F London

France:
Build A Paris
Build A Brest


vive la france!

Germany:
Build A Munich
Build A Berlin

Italy:
Build Fleet Venice

Russia:
Build F St Petersburg(nc)

Turkey:
Build Army Smyrna

[ERIKK]

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/ERIKK/200541519719_mad2.gif



REMINDER! IT'S ORDER NIGHT TONIGHT!

[Socrates]

Austria:
A Budapest Supports A Vienna
F Greece - Ionian Sea
A Serbia Supports A Trieste
A Trieste Supports A Vienna
A Vienna Hold

England:
F London - North Sea
F North Sea - Holland
A Norway, no move received
F Norwegian Sea Supports A Norway

France:
A Belgium Supports F North Sea - Holland
A Brest - Gascony
A Paris Supports A Brest - Gascony
F Portugal - Spain(sc)
A Spain - Marseilles

Germany:
A Berlin - Munich
F Denmark - North Sea
A Kiel Supports A Munich - Ruhr
A Marseilles - Burgundy
A Munich - Ruhr

Italy:
A Tunis Hold
A Tyrolia Supports A Galicia - Vienna
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea
F Venice - Trieste

Russia:
A Galicia - Vienna
F Sevastopol - Rumania
F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway
F Sweden Supports F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway
A Ukraine Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania

Turkey:
A Smy - Arm
A Con - Rum
F Bla C Con - Rum
A Bul S Con - Rum

[ERIKK]

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REMINDER! IT'S ORDER NIGHT TONIGHT!

[Socrates]

Austria:
A Budapest Supports A Vienna
F Greece - Ionian Sea
A Serbia Supports A Trieste
A Trieste Supports A Vienna
A Vienna Supports A Trieste

England:
F Holland Supports F London - North Sea
F London - North Sea
A Norway - Sweden
F Norwegian Sea Supports A Norway

France:
A Belgium Supports F Holland
A Gascony Supports A Marseilles - Burgundy
A Marseilles - Burgundy
A Paris Supports A Marseilles - Burgundy
F Spain(sc) - Marseilles

Germany:
A Burgundy - Belgium
F Denmark - North Sea
A Kiel - Holland
A Munich - Burgundy
A Ruhr Supports A Burgundy - Belgium

Italy:
F ven -&gt; adr
F tys -&gt; lyo
A tyr -&gt; ven
A tun Holds

Russia:
A Galicia Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania
F Sevastopol - Rumania
F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway
F Sweden Supports F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway
A Ukraine Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania

Turkey: A Armenia Supports A Constantinople - Sevastopol.
Turkey: F Black Sea Convoys A Constantinople - Sevastopol.
Turkey: A Bulgaria - Rumania.
Turkey: A Constantinople - Sevastopol.

[ERIKK]

Wow this game is realy exciting,lots of things happening everywhere!

[DrAlimentado]

I retreat Bel - Pic

[ERIKK]

Flux?

[Socrates]

England:
A Norway - Finland for flux

+ Bel - Pic for DrA

[ERIKK]

Winter orders:

Russia:
Build 1

Turkey:
Build 1


Ownership:

Austria: Budapest, Greece, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna.
England: Edinburgh, Holland, Liverpool, London.
France: Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain.
Germany: Belgium, Berlin, Denmark, Kiel, Munich.
Italy: Naples, Rome, Tunis, Venice.
Russia: Moscow, Norway, Rumania, St Petersburg, Sweden,
Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Sevastopol, Smyrna.

Adjustments:

Austria: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
England: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
France: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Germany: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Italy: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
Russia: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Turkey: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1

[Socrates]

Russia:
Build A St Petersburg

Turkey: Build F Smyrna.

[ERIKK]

Processed the orders. Next weekend I am not around. Can somebody do the orders that weekend. I can still submit my movement order. If there are any retreats please delay till sunday night.

[DrAlimentado]

I can 'do the orders' if you tell me exactly what I have to do :) I guess it means I post the orders in this thread and post the solved solution in the results thread right?

[ERIKK]

Thanks! :)

Just run the orders posted by Krys fridaynight through RP and post a pic and zip file of the dyp in this thread. Do it like it's done in the results thread. You can't post in the results thread but I can copy your post from here in the results thread on monday/sundaynight. You can see if there are any retreats that should be processed on Sunday. Remember that I can't do it till Sundaynight.

[DrAlimentado]

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/ERIKK/200541519719_mad2.gif

Orders night tonight!

[Socrates]

Austria:
A Budapest - Galicia
F Ionian Sea, no move received
A Serbia Supports A Trieste
A Trieste Hold
A Vienna Supports A Budapest - Galicia

England:
A Finland - Norway
F Holland, no move received
F London - North Sea
F Norwegian Sea Supports A Finland - Norway

France:
A Burgundy - Belgium
A Gascony - Marseilles
F Marseilles - Spain(sc)
A Paris - Burgundy
A Picardy Supports A Burgundy - Belgium

Germany:
A Belgium - Holland
F Denmark - North Sea
A Kiel Supports A Belgium - Holland
A Munich - Burgundy
A Ruhr Supports A Munich - Burgundy

Italy:
A Venice - Rome
A Tunis Holds
F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian Sea
F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea

Russia:
A Galicia Supports F Rumania
F Norway - Norwegian Sea
F Rumania Hold
A St Petersburg - Moscow
F Sweden - Edinburgh
A Ukraine - Moscow

Turkey: A Bulgaria - Rumania.
Turkey: F Black Sea Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania.
Turkey: A Sevastopol Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania.
Turkey: A Armenia Supports A Sevastopol.
Turkey: F Smyrna - Eastern Mediterranean.

[Stapel]

Russia:
A Galicia - Warsaw
F Norway - Skagerrak

[Socrates]

And :

England:
F Holland - Helgoland Bight

[ERIKK]

Will update the results tomorrow.

[ERIKK]

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REMINDER! IT'S ORDER NIGHT TONIGHT!

[Socrates]

Austria:
A Galicia Supports A Sevastopol - Ukraine
F Ionian Sea - Apulia
A Serbia - Trieste
A Trieste - Venice
A Vienna - Tyrolia

England:
F Helgoland Bight - Holland
F London Supports F Norwegian Sea - North Sea
A Norway - Sweden
F Norwegian Sea - North Sea

France:
A Belgium Supports F Helgoland Bight - Holland
A Marseilles - Burgundy
A Paris Supports A Marseilles - Burgundy
A Picardy Supports A Belgium
F Spain(sc) - Marseilles

Germany:
A Burgundy - Belgium
F Denmark - Helgoland Bight
A Holland Supports A Burgundy - Belgium
A Kiel Supports A Holland
A Ruhr Supports A Burgundy - Belgium

Italy:
F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea
A Rome - Venice
A Tunis Holds
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Naples

Russia:
F Skagerrak Supports F Sweden - Norway
A St Petersburg Supports F Sweden - Norway
F Sweden - Norway
A Ukraine - Moscow
A Warsaw - Moscow

Turkey: A Armenia - Sevastopol.
Turkey: F Black Sea, no move received.
Turkey: F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea.
Turkey: A Rumania Supports A Sevastopol - Ukraine.
Turkey: A Sevastopol - Ukraine.

[ERIKK]

Germany retreats to Munich.

England retreat or disband?

[Socrates]

And :

England:
A Norway - Finland

[ERIKK]

Ownership:

Austria: Budapest, Greece, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna.
England: Edinburgh, Liverpool, London.
France: Belgium, Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain.
Germany: Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Munich.
Italy: Naples, Rome, Tunis, Venice.
Russia: Moscow, Norway, St Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Rumania,
Sevastopol, Smyrna.

Adjustments:

Austria: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
England: Supp 3 Unit 4 Remove 1
France: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Germany: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Italy: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
Russia: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
Turkey: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1

[Stapel]

An Army in Moscow please!

[Socrates]

I think there was a deadline for adjustment yesterday, uh ? I only received squid's one, and Stapel posted here. So I miss England and France.

[flux]

England:
Remove A Finland
hi sorry i was late had a flood to contend with yesterday :)

cistern tank flooded some of my house:)

cheers flux

[barbu1977]

BTW, I'll submit my moves Tuesday afternoon. I will be out until sunday night.

[DrAlimentado]

France :

build Fleet Brest

[ERIKK]

[hmm]

FRA build F brest
ENG remove A finland
RUS build A moscow
TUR squid?

Please post squids order then I can update the results thread tonight. It is alll a bit late but lets stick to the schedule as it is.

[Socrates]

Yeah sorry :

Build Fleet Smyrna

Please, send me your build/remove orders only after the retreat phase has occured, or if there is no retreat. In both cases that includes to wait for the movement orders to be processed.

[squidbeastie]

That one was for me, ;) sorry!

[ERIKK]

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REMINDER! IT'S ORDER NIGHT TONIGHT!

[Socrates]

Austria:
F Apulia Supports F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
A Galicia - Warsaw
A Serbia - Budapest
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia - Venice
A Tyrolia - Venice

England:
F Helgoland Bight - Denmark
F London Supports F North Sea
F North Sea, no move received

France:
A Belgium Supports A Burgundy - Ruhr
F Brest - English Channel
A Burgundy - Ruhr
F Marseilles - Gulf of Lyon
A Paris - Burgundy
A Picardy Supports A Belgium

Germany:
F Denmark - Helgoland Bight
A Holland Supports A Ruhr
A Kiel Supports A Holland
A Munich Supports A Ruhr
A Ruhr Supports A Holland

Italy:
A Tunis Holds
A Rome - Venice
F Naples - Ionian Sea
F Adriatic Sea Supports F Naples - Ionian Sea

Russia:
A Moscow - Ukraine
F Norway - Norwegian Sea
F Skagerrak - North Sea
A St Petersburg Supports A Warsaw - Moscow
A Warsaw - Moscow

Turkey: F Black Sea Convoys A Rumania - Constantinople.
Turkey: F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea.
Turkey: A Rumania - Constantinople.
Turkey: A Sevastopol - Moscow.
Turkey: F Smyrna - Aegean Sea.
Turkey: A Ukraine Supports A Galicia - Warsaw.

[OnCider]

[off-topic Olympic banter]

DrAlimentado, Erikk (Dip4) your boys took one hell of a beating!

(I'll now go back to seeing my lovely Tuscan hillsides being ravaged by those nasty Austrian thugs).

[ERIKK]

Yeah, it's obvious we will be in the trenches for the next couple of years... :(

[ERIKK]

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[flux]

hi

i delegate any retreats for this year only to france
i will be back for build turn

cheers flux

[Socrates]

Only 5 sets of orders received. Missing ones are Stapel's and OnCider's.

Stapel is currently in London, I don't know when he's back.


EDIT : Stapel is back home, but is experiencing difficulties with Internet (not MSN), so he thinks of sending his orders tomorrow.

[squidbeastie]

Thanks for keeping us posted Krys.

[OnCider]

Really sorry all, I was in France on Friday buying wine for my wedding in August. In all the rush, I forgot to send in my orders before I went.

If you don't want to delay then NMR me (it won't make much difference to my survival I fear). Otherwise I'll send my orders in today.

Again, my sincerest apologies.

Edit: SENT

[Stapel]

At home, I have no internet explorer......
All seems to be fucked up. Very annoying. I am at work now. will post orders asap.

EDIT: SENT.

[squidbeastie]

To my mind excuses do not come much finer than bunking off to France to buy wine, there's not enough of this sort of behaviour. Congrats on the wedding! I'm happy for the orders to be accepted.

Hugh

[ERIKK]

AFAIK all are in now, will post them tonight when they are made available.

[Socrates]

Austria:
F Apulia Supports F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea
A Budapest - Galicia
A Galicia - Silesia
A Trieste Supports A Venice
A Venice Hold

England:
F Helgoland Bight Supports F North Sea - Denmark
F London - Wales
F North Sea - Denmark

France:
A Belgium Supports A Paris - Burgundy
A Burgundy - Marseilles
F English Channel - North Sea
F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Paris - Burgundy
A Picardy Supports A Belgium

Germany:
F Denmark - Helgoland Bight
A Holland Hold
A Kiel Supports A Holland
A Munich Supports A Ruhr
A Ruhr Hold

Italy:
A Tunis Holds
A Rome - Apulia
F Naples Supports A Rome - Apulia
F Adriatic Sea Supports A Rome - Apulia

Russia:
A Moscow - Ukraine
F Norwegian Sea - Edinburgh
F Skagerrak - North Sea
A St Petersburg Supports A Warsaw - Moscow
A Warsaw - Moscow

Turkey: F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea.
Turkey: F Black Sea - Constantinople.
Turkey: A Constantinople - Smyrna.
Turkey: F Eastern Mediterranean Supports F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea.
Turkey: A Sevastopol Supports A Ukraine - Moscow.
Turkey: A Ukraine - Moscow.

[ERIKK]

Ownership:

Austria: Budapest, Greece, Serbia, Trieste, Venice, Vienna.
England: Denmark, Liverpool, London.
France: Belgium, Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain.
Germany: Berlin, Holland, Kiel, Munich.
Italy: Naples, Rome, Tunis.
Russia: Edinburgh, Moscow, Norway, St Petersburg, Sweden,
Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Rumania,
Sevastopol, Smyrna.

Adjustments:

Austria: Supp 6 Unit 4 Build 2
England: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0
France: Supp 6 Unit 6 Build 0
Germany: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
Italy: Supp 3 Unit 4 Remove 1
Russia: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 6 Unit 6 Build 0

[barbu1977]

I assume you chose to disband your fleet instead of retreating?

Austria's builds are automatic.

[squidbeastie]

Erikk not retreating to Sweden then? (I've noticed that RP sometimes disbands units that have a retreat option!)

HUgh

[barbu1977]

That happens when the army is not given any moves instead of a hold order.

[squidbeastie]

I didn't know there was a difference! I thought it was just tradition, or good form, to state a unit is holding. Cheers for the tip anyway :)

Hugh

[Stapel]

quote:Originally posted by squidbeastie

I didn't know there was a difference! I thought it was just tradition, or good form, to state a unit is holding. Cheers for the tip anyway :)

Hugh

But it can't hold! Thus disbands.

[ERIKK]

Yeah I auto-disbanded the fleet. I wanted to post the result as we already had all the dealys again but was in an incredible hurry yesterday night. So I oversaw the option to retreat the fleet. That is my second blunder this diplo-year. I could have held Denmark in hindsight with some more joint effort with Russia... As Russia cant place an extra build things look realy stupid now... I should have retreated!

At the looks of the board the situation is dramaticly deterioating for the axis powers anyway.

[OnCider]

Disband Army in Apulia

[squidbeastie]

Sine we already had a delay, it hardly seems unfair to retreat late, but its your call, it just seemed an odd thing to do, roll on next friday :)

Hugh

[barbu1977]

To make it official (although posted on monday):
Austria:
Build A Vienna
Build A Budapest

[ERIKK]

I will post new results soon.

The moves are postphoned 1 week as we have the CDZ meeting this weekend. At least Anarres and Stapel away, maybe even more of the diplo players.

[squidbeastie]

You're just putting off my inevetable triumph ;)

In a week it is then.

[ERIKK]

quote:Originally posted by squidbeastie

You're just putting off my inevetable triumph ;)

In a week it is then.
hehe... :)

You sure look strong my friend but that could turn against you in a second... [slap]

results posted!

[squidbeastie]

quote:Originally posted by ERIKK



You sure look strong my friend but that could turn against you in a second... [slap]

results posted!


What you mean I didn't get you to sign my "no Stabbing Hugh" clause?!?

[ERIKK]

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[Socrates]

50 minutes after deadline. Two people missing (you know who you are), both paid a visit here no later than today. ;)

[barbu1977]

Well, I wont be back until tuesday for retreats, if any.

[Stapel]

quote:Originally posted by kryszcztov

50 minutes after deadline. Two people missing (you know who you are), both paid a visit here no later than today. ;)


Guilty!
Sent!

[ERIKK]

so... who and where is the other one?

[Socrates]

OnCider is missing. Since you're GM, your call.

[ERIKK]

We should wait...

[Stapel]

quote:Originally posted by kryszcztov

OnCider is missing. Since you're GM, your call.


You still don't get it Krys.......
But, I agree with Erikk we should wait.

[Socrates]

quote:Originally posted by Stapel

quote:Originally posted by kryszcztov

OnCider is missing. Since you're GM, your call.


You still don't get it Krys.......
But, I agree with Erikk we should wait.

Well, whatever, I basically wanted to say : "I don't want to decide and it's not my task, tell me what to do." Nothing more. :)

[Stapel]

Did anyone mail or PM Rhys/OnCider?

[squidbeastie]

Saw him on msn today, bur he signed off before I could message him :(

[ERIKK]

pm'd him!

[Stapel]

and?

[ERIKK]

nada!

[barbu1977]

Shall we look for replacement? NMR will kill the game.

Unfortunatly for the replacement, it is not in a very good position.

[ERIKK]

On a sidenote: I am sorry but soon I will be gone 3 weeks on holiday...

Maybe we should delay the games for some time. I will create an away and back thread for the diplo players!

[squidbeastie]

Shall we pospone the next move till the friday after Erikk comes back? Plenty of time to find a replacement, assuming, as I am that Rhys has given up on us.

[ERIKK]

Lets postphone the game till I am back, as suggested. I suppose OnCoder will be back then too. He hasn't read my PM to him that I sent some time ago.

[squidbeastie]

Erikk back tomorrow, but I assume no OnCider?

Shall we aim for next friday (2/9) for orders?

[ERIKK]

YeaH lets start again next friday. I have heard none from OnCider. Anybody did??
My PM is still onread so I will send him an email...

[squidbeastie]

Good holiday?

I think we should look for a replacement, see what we've got, then decide what to do over the weekend. Obviously if OnCider is still in, then we won't give him the boot! I doubt I can round up any experienced players, I have some RL friends who don't know how to play (yet!) but could be ropped in, and know a few from other forums who can play, but -as I don't know them that well- I'd rather not ask them in, only to tell them they're not needed!

[Socrates]

I've been keeping almost all the latest orders for this game during this summer (for spring 1905 it seems), so my question : will I post them here soon, or do you want to chat with one another again and send me new orders ?

[squidbeastie]

Since we may have a new Italy better to hold on to them (but if everyone else shows up & want's you to post, go ahead!).

Thats 3/8 people back in the thread!

[barbu1977]

[wavey] 4/8

[squidbeastie]

My guess, this one aint gonna fly.... :(

[ERIKK]

Still no sign of OnCider.... We must NMR him or someone has to step up!

We should continue to play though, with or without a NMR.

[squidbeastie]

I will see if I can find a replacement..... Don't hold you're breath though.

Are all the others arround?

[DrAlimentado]

im around, anarres probably is too.

[Stapel]

I'm here!

Hmm, I haven't seen Rhys (OnCider)online either the past month...

[Stapel]

quote:Originally posted by DrAlimentado


im around, anarres probably is too.


Good,
Since Anarres is not in this game, he can take over Italy :) .

[DrAlimentado]

lol, well i forget who is in what game. good luck persuading dan to play this one ;)

[ERIKK]

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REMINDER! IT'S ORDER NIGHT TONIGHT!
spring 1905 movement orders are due!
(I sent mine july 22th to you Krys)

[ERIKK]

Update:
nothing heard from OnCider, maybe anarres can help us out? If no moves are in this weekend I consider Italy a NMR... We cannot wait forever IMHO. Dunno what else to do.

Lets try to collect all the moves this weekend first...

[Socrates]

Let's be precise. I have kept many set of orders for several weeks now. I received orders from squidbeastie, flux, barbu, ERIKK, DrA and Stapel. Nothing from OnCider. Tell me what I should do.

[ERIKK]

I say: make him a NMR now and pray that anarres will help us out and replace him for the last dying turns...

anarres..., please please please please please please please please please please.... :)

[ERIKK]

anarres, will you fill in the spot????

[groucho]

[ERIKK]

Fuck it, does nobody read this thread????????????

I am getting very irritated about this game! I say OnCider is NMR for the rest of the game as anarres apparently has no interest. We can accept this and carry on or quit this game.

[squidbeastie]

I'd like to finish, I'm tired of Diplomacy games stalling.

[ERIKK]

AFAIK this games goes into hibernation - maybe when game 4 finishes we can pickup this game with an new player for Italy.

[Socrates]

I volunteer to pick up Italy. :) Taking someone else's place isn't something I do and like doing, but I feel it is needed so as we don't start to have dead games here. I opened the latest orders in my PM box a while ago, and you could imagine that I had no will to actually read them and stuff. Still, we should have someone else to send the orders to. I'll look into it. About this very turn, up to you : either resend your orders to the new guy, or keep the ones you sent to me, and I'll post them. However, with me as the new player, orders may look a bit different. I propose we set the deadline on next Friday. Is everyone here ? [hmm]

[DrAlimentado]

I am here.

Italy - we need to talk!

[ERIKK]

I am here!

[squidbeastie]

I'm here, so you havn't looked at my orders..... ;)

Next friday it is, lets hope we can come to some, understanding.....

[barbu1977]

Also here

[Socrates]

akots may become order receiver once again. Though he insists he may not be reliable, but if everyone sent their orders on time, there shouldn't be any problem. [mischief]

[ERIKK]

I should sent my orders to you Krys?

[Socrates]

quote:Originally posted by ERIKK

I should sent my orders to you Krys?

I would have said akots, since he said "Mmmh well", but with Rita on board, I feel guilty. [cry] I don't even know if everyone will resend their orders or not. Let's play it safe : send your orders to both akots and myself this time.

BTW, I haven't talked to anyone yet. So I'm about to send uncoherent orders... [mischief]

[ERIKK]

sent my orders to you :)

[squidbeastie]

Sent different orders to both ;) If Akots is involved he has the correct orders, If not then Krys can decide which of the three sets I sent him to use! Hey surprise me :D

[Socrates]

Well, frankly, this is becoming a mess. After reading akots's latest post, I think there is no use sending anything to him now. So I'll be the order receiver until further notice. Please send me your LATEST orders set, and I'll post them tomorrow. I sent mine (Italy) to akots, so he could confirm that I'll post the right thing (sometime, soon...).

[barbu1977]

Sent oders ages ago. I'll resend to make sure. Any news froms stapel? If he did not send in game 4 I doubt he will send something here, unless you have his from 2 months ago.

[squidbeastie]

AAAAAGH!

I shall send another set of orders! :(

[Socrates]

Austria:
A Budapest - Serbia
A Galicia - Warsaw
A Silesia Supports A Galicia - Warsaw
A Trieste - Venice
A Venice - Piedmont
A Vienna - Tyrolia

England:
F Denmark Supports F English Channel - North Sea
F Helgoland Bight - Holland
F Wales - Liverpool

France:
A Belgium Supports A Burgundy - Ruhr
A Burgundy - Ruhr
F English Channel - North Sea
A Marseilles - Burgundy
A Picardy Supports A Belgium
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Rome

Germany:
A Holland Supports A Kiel
A Kiel Supports A Holland
A Munich Supports A Ruhr
A Ruhr Supports A Holland

Italy:
F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea
F Naples Supports F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea
A Tunis Hold

Russia:
F Edinburgh - North Sea
A Moscow - Ukraine
F Skagerrak - Sweden
A St Petersburg - Moscow
A Warsaw Supports A Moscow - Ukraine

Turkey: F Constantinople - Aegean Sea.
Turkey: F Eastern Mediterranean Convoys A Smyrna - Apulia.
Turkey: F Ionian Sea Convoys A Smyrna - Apulia.
Turkey: A Sevastopol - Moscow.
Turkey: A Smyrna - Apulia.
Turkey: A Ukraine Supports A Sevastopol - Moscow.


note : I'm not even reading this now, I'll see what it means when ERIKK updates the results thread.

EDIT : Might be an idea to contact flux, as it's been a month since he last paid us a visit. ;)

[squidbeastie]

OK if I post retreat tomorrow???

[akots]

I'm back from a date with Rita, reporting for duty. But seems you are doing just fine. If you need me, please use pm.

[squidbeastie]

Retreat Ion-Tys :)

[ERIKK]

Are all the retreats in?

(to krys and/or akots(?))

[Socrates]

Nothing regarding the retreats in my PM box so far, but I hope akots have some. FYI, flux's last visit was on August 26. I've just sent him a PM, hoping he toggled on the option "send an email alert", because I don't have his mail address.

[DrAlimentado]

I have been without internet access from home until late last night (stupid stupid isp), I know its late notice but can we have a 1 or 2 day extension so I can get a chance to do some diplo if possible?

I will also ring flux and find out if he is rejoining us...

[squidbeastie]

Alright with me, especialy with retreats and a player up in the air....

[ERIKK]

okidoki

[Socrates]

squidbeastie told us his retreat order, but Stapel (Russia, 2 retreats) is currently in Italy with a Fiat or something like that. He should come back by Monday. We'd need to postpone the next movement deadline until next Friday, really.

[squidbeastie]

Not a problem, although I think I could guess Stapels retreats...

P.S. who are we sending orders to?

[Socrates]

Stapel on MSN :

Russia:
A Moscow - Livonia
A Warsaw - Prussia

ERIKK, you're free to update the results thread.

[DrAlimentado]

guys I have been unable to contact Flux as he is not at home this weekend, I spoke to his girlfriend earlier and she was a little vauge as to where he was but I will try and get hold of him asap.

Until then we have a choice we can nmr him or hold the game or find a replacement... I will send some 'default' orders

[Socrates]

And I can't send orders if there isn't the right pic & save in the results thread. [blush2]

[akots]

I've received one or may be two orders, cannot tell since one set of orders is labeled but another one which I received some time ago is not clearly marked so I cannot tell whether it is for this weak or for some other week. How many total orders I should get?

[barbu1977]

I think this will be delayed another week... We need to find a solution about england.

[ERIKK]

ok

[ERIKK]

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[Stapel]

I'm sorry dudes, I can't be arsed to even think about diplo :( .

[ERIKK]

In that case I will quit too, I am tired of all the delays etc etc bla bla bla

:(

[Socrates]

Who is playing England anyway ? [mischief]


EDIT : So, is this game dead ? Can all players tell their preference ?

[squidbeastie]

Yeh, I vote for a Turkish solo ;)

I think thins is a dead game :( But if not I am still alive...

[barbu1977]

We could flip to declare Italy or england or both in civil disorder.
Maybe puting england in civil disorder will have less impact on the game.

I think we have a couple of rather loyal players to the game. It would be a shame to end it.

But in any case, we need an answer from stapel.

[squidbeastie]

I could bring a novice into the game, but he would be relying on me & this would be a little like me having control of England, not good.

[ERIKK]

I think this game has ended now (rather unfortunally). Sorry for that... :(