Nice pull!!

[English_brit]

Wow. Just pulled a good player, shock horror. lol

quote:Patricio Duran (55933462)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A sympathetic guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities.


Speciality: Unpredictable

Nationality: England
Total Skill Index (TSI): 1 100
Wage: 474 £/week
Owner: Toffee's Utd
Warnings: 0


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: passable
Winger: poor Defending: wretched
Scoring: solid Set Pieces: wretched

Well chuffed. :)

[Kingreno]

[mouth]




That is one of the best I have ever seen! Congrats!

[English_brit]

Thanks. I've just listed him at 700k Sterling. All his non playing stats are really good aswell so hopefully he'll get a good price.

[ProPain]

Good one!! That will do wonders for the economy screen too!

[English_brit]

Yeah, defo. Should be able to improve my frontline a fair bit in the near future now.

[Melifluous]

Nice one.

Good to see someone getting some luck.

My latest offerening to the pool of sacked players.

quote:Curtis Soley (55950732)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is calm and righteous.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Nationality: England
Total Skill Index (TSI): 80
Wage: 333 £/week
Owner: Meli's Manglers
Warnings: 0


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: weak
Winger: poor Defending: poor
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: disastrous


Phew, what was that smell.

Melifluous

[English_brit]

lol Meli.

I was just wondering. Atm I have two excellent strikers. I want to upgrade these with the money I make. Over the next week, taking in to account the sale of my pull, I should have around 1.1 million pounds to spend.

Am I better off buying two formidable strikers with worse passing or spending just over a million on a formidable striker with excellent passing?

Or am I better off buying one outstanding striker?

Is the passing definately worth the extra money?

Opinions please.

Thanks.

[Dell19]

I guess it depends on what you are going to do. If you are going to play AIM or AOW alot then the passing is a bit more valuable, otherwise the extra level of scoring might be more worthwhile. You might also want to look into getting a player with high SP if you don't already have one.

[Shabbaman]

quote:Originally posted by English_brit

Wow. Just pulled a good player, shock horror. lol



Holy smoke, that's an insanely good YP! This will net you over 500k, easily. It's almost a very good reason to switch to forward training. This guy can make the u-21 squad.

Congrats!

[Shabbaman]

quote:Originally posted by English_brit

Is the passing definately worth the extra money?


Ehm.

Well, as the trend of upgrading secondary stats will most likely continue, passing might become more important in the future. But let's put that aside for now.
Take a look at where secondary stats can give you an advantage: high passing is good for unpredictables, set pieces is good for long shots. Passing is also important if you play strategies like AIM and so on.

My advice would be to go for a formidable with high passing and unpredictable, but that will cost you a lot more than one without unpredictable. So that might be out of your league. But unpredictable is a bit of a waste on a player with low passing. He would still create opportunities for himself, but not on others.
Another option would be to go for a player with high set pieces. Since this hasn't got that much interest, this could be a lot cheaper. A final note, don't forget about heading.

[English_brit]

Thanks for the posts. Hmm, got alot of thinking to do now. You used Unprecitables with high passing Shabba? How often do they create chances out of nothing? I quite like Quick strikers atm as they tend to create a fair few chances with their speed, plus are a bit cheaper.

I could do with a good set piece taker aswell. My current ones only solid with bad shooting.

[Shabbaman]

The highest passing skill for my unpredictables is passable, which most likely isn't high enough for such an event. This one comes straight out of the platypus guide,
Quick is nice, but it's weather dependable therefore I don't like it. But I'm biased towards headers atm :)

[English_brit]

Yeah. I would like more Heads in my team if I had a decent set piece taker. I used to have an excellent sp taker but had to sell him. He scored loads. :(

[English_brit]

Personally I find the weather event hardly ever happens and the amount of chances they create with their speed easily overcompensates for it. Just my opinion though.

[yndy]

The chance of a player to get a special event is not very high - about 5% (+-2% :)). IMHO it's not worth the extra money when differences between teams in the league are significant. But when teams are very close and matches are being won/drawn/lost at a one goal difference, the Speciality of the player and that 5% chance he'll score are worth it.

In my case, it will be needed when/if I promote to Romania's 4th division when things will really start to be tough for me.

[English_brit]

Good points. My league is a very close one atm. Although I'm hoping to launch a serious title challenge with my new pull to bring in some money.

[Schip]

hehe eindelijk (finally!)
[party]
Benne Buitenhek (56120266) [Add this player to your bookmarks]
17 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities.


Speciality: Head

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 620
Wage: 588 €/week
Owner: Acorazado Fuerte
Warnings: 0


Stamina: poor Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: passable
Winger: poor Defending: wretched
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: poor
[party]

EDIT: exactly, this was my first pull with my YS at excellent. I hope a trend is set....

[Kemal]

Of course I can't compare him with the 17 year olds you guys pulled, but I'm quite happy with mine nevertheless, the first solid skill I've ever pulled. :)

Robbert Jense (56148953)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.


Speciality: Unpredictable

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 320
Wage: 590 €/week
Owner: FC De Snaken
Warnings: 0


Stamina: poor Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: wretched
Winger: wretched Defending: poor
Scoring: solid Set Pieces: poor

[English_brit]

Nice pulls. Should give you both a bit of money to play with.

[Schip]

the above mentioned youth pull Benne Buitenhek was sold for €327K

JIPPIE!!!!!!!! Bring in the cash.

[English_brit]

Conrats. :)

[Dell19]

My passable 17 year old scorer sold for 42k which seems to be a pretty good price. He did have head speciality as well.

[English_brit]

Not bad. :)

[Kemal]

Having been on the TL for 2 times for 55K first (as I tried to sell him slightly above transfer compare value) and not being sold, Robbert Jense today went for 56.2K after a huge bidwar [crazyeye], a very nice result imo. :)

[English_brit]

Nice going.

[Melifluous]

Yay!

I finally get something to cheer about from my YS.

Wadya think?


Buster Auld (57118655)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is temperamental and honest.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

Nationality: England
Total Skill Index (TSI): 500
Wage: 367 £/week
Owner: Meli's Manglers
Warnings: 0


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: weak
Winger: weak Defending: weak
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: weak


[party]

Melifluous

[Kingreno]

That's an okay pull Mel! Sell it or keep it?

[Melifluous]

He's 17 and will play tomorrow just to give him a run out.

Will keep for a few weeks to see if he pops.

Then...

...who knows [:p]

Melifluous

[ProPain]

Huib van Steenwijk (57200230)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is calm and honest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 1 310
Wage: 1 096 €/week
Owner: PP SV
Warnings: 0


Stamina: disastrous Goaltending: inadequate
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: inadequate


pulled this guy. Not too bad, he's close to passable so I listed him instead of firing him. Bad part is I can't let him play on wednesday because that would be wasting keeper training on my trainee so that will make him harder to sell.

[English_brit]

Bit of a shame. :(

[Plux]

[cool]quote:

Remco Festen (57295738)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is calm and honest.
Has disastrous experience and solid leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 280
Wage: 588 €/week
Owner: Dom Ducks
Warnings: 0


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: solid Passing: wretched
Winger: wretched Defending: wretched
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: weak

[Shabbaman]

I sold my pull for 50k. A 19 y.o. solid defender, weak passing/playmaking.

[English_brit]

Nice pull Plux. Just a shame the secondaries weren't a bit better.

[Melifluous]

Also, Solid Leader and Controversial player :(

Melifluous

[Swingue]

Oke this one is is a good pull for me:

quote:
Elias Egberink (57747456)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A popular guy who is balanced and righteous.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 1 530
Wage: 791 €/week
Owner: SwingStars
Warnings: 0


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: solid Passing: wretched
Winger: wretched Defending: wretched
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: poor

Career Goals: 0
Career Hattricks: 0
League goals this season: 0
Cup goals this season: 0

[ProPain]

With that very nice pull and your recent new acquisition, you should be able to play 3-5-2 like every other decent team at last [:p]

Very nice pull Swingue, congrats!!

[ProPain]

My 1st pull from my excellent squad:

quote:Jacques Kentgens (58271553)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 270
Wage: 558 €/week
Owner: PP SV
Warnings: 0


Stamina: solid Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: wretched
Winger: weak Defending: wretched
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: weak

Career Goals: 0
Career Hattricks: 0
League goals this season: 0
Cup goals this season: 0

17 years pass PM, should be sellable but wont be much euro's I think.

[Kingreno]

solid stamina will get you some cash for it!

I got TSI=40

8 for 8 crap from excellent YS.

[Shabbaman]

Got a good pull today, but I don't know what I'm to do with him.

quote:Hemmo Noll (58806460)
18 jaar, passable in vorm, healthy
Een pleasant guy persoon die temperamental en upright is.
Hij heeft disastrous ervaring en is een poor leider.


Speciality: Powerful

Nationaliteit: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 1 250
Wage: 750 €/week
Owner: Shabba FC
Warnings: 0


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: weak
Winger: weak Defending: inadequate
Scoring: solid Set Pieces: disastrous

Solid scorer, weak passing. His TSI is about 75% higher than a solid/weak with no other stats. The inadequate defending skews his TSI, but my estimate is that this guy is a high solid.

I don't know what to do with him though. His passing is too low for me, and I'm aiming at training players with higher stats. I'll be selling my first three forwards at the end of the season, and by then I need the other three to take their place.

He's too agressive btw. Maybe something for meli.

[Kingreno]

that is a great pull shabba!!!

I'd sell him if you don't have a spot for him.

[Dell19]

Bart Gin (58572815)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A sympathetic guy who is balanced and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Nationality: England
Total Skill Index (TSI): 750
Wage: 449 £/week
Owner: Wartham United
Warnings: 0


Stamina: poor Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: poor
Winger: poor Defending: solid
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: poor

[ProPain]

Look what the YP cat dragged in !! :D Very happy with this!

quote:Albert-Jan Companjen (58816182)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and infamous.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 900
Wage: 666 €/week
Owner: PP SV
Warnings: 0


Stamina: poor Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: wretched
Winger: poor Defending: wretched
Scoring: solid Set Pieces: weak

Career Goals: 0
Career Hattricks: 0
League goals this season: 0
Cup goals this season: 0

Just a pity his passing sucks big time. Still doubting a bit what to do with him, I could keep him around as a trainee, but I think I'll sell him as I'm only gonna switch to forward training next season. Better have the cash now instead of watching his form decrease.

[Dell19]

quote:Originally posted by Dell19

Bart Gin (58572815)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A sympathetic guy who is balanced and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Nationality: England
Total Skill Index (TSI): 750
Wage: 449 £/week
Owner: Wartham United
Warnings: 0


Stamina: poor Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: poor
Winger: poor Defending: solid
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: poor



Sold for £127 333. An amazingly good price since I listed him at £50k adn was expecting him to sell at around that price.

[Kemal]

quote:
Martin van Acker (59359859)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A sympathetic guy who is temperamental and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 930
Wage: 618 €/week
Owner: FC De Snaken
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: passable
Winger: passable Defending: wretched
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: poor



Could any of the transfermarket-veterans here please help on what this kind of player could be worth, and set on the market for? Transfer compare doesn't work for him at all it seems. :(
TIA.

[Kingreno]

Hard to say but why not just list him for 25k and see where it goes?

[Plux]

I'm no veteran :), but seeing he has pretty high TSI and young age and his skills make him a good overall wing midfielder, I'd say 25k would be AT LEAST possible.

[ProPain]

that's a nice midfielder Kemal. TSI is above average, hard to say what that means for his wing skill though. 25K should very well be possible but wingers are somewhat hard to sell inmy experience.

I sold an excellent winger 2 months ago for 65k but he had no secondary skills whatsover. The first inadeqates I bought for training a year ago I paid 10-20K for iirc, prices dropped a bit though so I'd say yours should be worth 25k.

List him and see what happens.

Also imexp it helps to have the last2 hours of transfer listing during match time of big hattrick countries. People get bored and scan the transfer lists.

[Melifluous]

I would certainly try and sell this dude as an IM.

Winger training is for girls ;)

Playmaking Inad and passable passing at 17 will make someone a nice trainee ;)

Such players look to be going for at least £30,000

Melifluous

[ProPain]

quote:Originally posted by Melifluous


Winger training is for girls ;)


Some solid advise from the man who never fields any wingers and gets his ass kicked on a weekly basis. [:p] [lol]

[Kemal]

@all: thanks for your advice. :)

It seems, looking at the transfer list, that indeed selling wingers is like attacking spearmen with tanks in civ3, you never know what is going to happen. ;)

I've listed him for 15K, deadline at 20:30 wednesday or so, to make sure possible winger trainees know he played in the friendly of that day (hmm, helping pp here to partly predict my line-up for our cdz-clash, I suppose...).

[Melifluous]

quote:Originally posted by ProPain

quote:Originally posted by Melifluous


Winger training is for girls ;)


Some solid advise from the man who never fields any wingers and gets his ass kicked on a weekly basis. [:p] [lol]


No it's true! And it's not just me saying it. Checkout this team's logo...

TeamID = 59444

Melifluous

[Dell19]

I know the team already :) He posts on the BDF occasionally. Kind of odd that you are in the same division. I think the team that is top of your division may have inspired an entire federation.

[Melifluous]

Ah you mean the 'Men of PIE'?

Indeed.

Also he's ranked about 15th from all the teams in Division 5 ;)

Melifluous

PS. Post a link to the BDF will ya? I get the feeling there are some HT forums I am not spamming yet [:P]

[Kemal]

Martin van Acker sold for 82K in the end, in the eyes of some people really cheap I suppose, since he was immediately relisted for 220K. [eek]

Still, I'm happy with the 82K for him, good enough for me. :)

[Dell19]

quote:Originally posted by Melifluous
PS. Post a link to the BDF will ya? I get the feeling there are some HT forums I am not spamming yet [:P]


Ask and you shall receive :p

http://htbdf.ipbhost.com/index.php?act=idx

You can also get the link from the fed page for the BDF.

[Kemal]

quote:
Hildio Vreugdenhil (59903867)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities.


Speciality: Unpredictable

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 500
Wage: 595 €/week
Owner: FC De Snaken
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: poor
Winger: weak Defending: solid
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: disastrous


My best pull so far, I think. :)

[Kingreno]

good pull Kemal, again!

TSI not too good though, my guess he's not close to excellent.

[Kemal]

Holy ****! [eek]

Take a look at this, ever seen anything like this? Maybe I should start supporting those Werder Allstars in return, hopefully they'll keep up the good work!

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Kemal/2005414113436_Hildiopfoaar.jpg
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[dance][party][dance]

[Schip]

WTF?? Is he raising his own bid? Or is somebody else involved in this as well, if so why isn't that shown?

[Kemal]

No, he's doing so completely by himself... all within 2 minutes or so!

He has actually raised himself 16 times in total, too bad it stopped at 116K, but still an hour to go for this fellow to get another "must-bid-on-own-players" state of mind.. :D

[ProPain]

maybe he's too lazy to enter the amount he wants to bid or just doesnt understand that's possible

[Melifluous]

Thank God for Stupid People.

Melifluous

[Kemal]

He sold for a very satisfying 131K in the end (and not to the Werder Allstars), not bad since as KR rightly pointed out this fellow was probably only barely better than passable, looking at his TSI.

Btw, initially I forgot to mention that Hildio was actually the very first product of the now excellent Snaken YS, so hopefully even better pulls will be coming up, especially once the next season starts. :)

[Dell19]

quote:Richard Simpson (60196368)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A sympathetic guy who is calm and upright.
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities.

Nationality: England
Total Skill Index (TSI): 700
Wage: 394 £/week
Owner: Wartham United
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: passable Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: passable
Winger: wretched Defending: poor
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: poor

Deadline: 18/04/2005 at 21.57

Asking price: 150 000 £

Not a bad pull although admittedly its a little late in the season. He does have high stamina though.

[ProPain]

quote:Steffen Abbink (60405103)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A sympathetic guy who is balanced and upright.
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 410
Wage: 571 €/week
Owner: PP SV
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: wretched
Winger: poor Defending: passable
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: inadequate

not too bad, especially after one of my best defenders was kicked senseless last wednesday.

[Plux]

I wonder why it is so often that players with high defending skill also have high scoring? I've seen it so many times with my youth pulls now, that I can't believe it's just coincidence.

[Dell19]

quote:Originally posted by Plux

I wonder why it is so often that players with high defending skill also have high scoring? I've seen it so many times with my youth pulls now, that I can't believe it's just coincidence.


I've wondered about that as well. Lots of times when I've been looking for trainees I've been surprised at the number of dual trainees where I would have to bid against defender trainers as well.

[Melifluous]

quote:

Shaun Belyaeva (63954361)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

Nationality: England
Total Skill Index (TSI): 720
Wage: 414 £/week
Owner: Meli's Manglers
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: solid Passing: inadequate
Winger: weak Defending: poor
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: inadequate



What do we think?

I like :)

Melifluous

[English_brit]

Nice. Shame he isn't a bit younger and earlier in the season though.

[Dell19]

Its going to be difficult to get a significant amount of money for him since he is 20 in 3 weeks so he isn't really trainable. However if you are training stamina over the offseason it could be worthwhile keeping him and then selling him next season as a 20 year old but with good stamina as well since there is a demand for solid PMs.

[ProPain]

Ton van Mieris (64147841)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A sympathetic guy who is fiery and honest.
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities.


Speciality: Powerful

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 520
Wage: 554 €/week
Owner: PP SV
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: passable Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: inadequate
Winger: poor Defending: weak
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: poor

[ProPain]

any clue what ^ is worth???

I wanna sell him but midfiels is not my expertise

[Dell19]

Friday 13th + Walking under ladder =

Dave Ryan (64616480) [Add this player to your bookmarks]
17 years, passable form, healthy
A sympathetic guy who is balanced and upright.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.


Speciality: Quick

Nationality: England
Total Skill Index (TSI): 1 170
Wage: 516 £/week
Owner: Wartham United
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: poor Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: weak
Winger: poor Defending: inadequate
Scoring: excellent Set Pieces: passable

[Melifluous]

quote:Originally posted by ProPain

any clue what ^ is worth???

I wanna sell him but midfiels is not my expertise


I would say around 100,000 Euros.

If you aint gonna train IM, probably best listing him as soon as possible whilst he's still 17 for 0 and see what you get.

Melifluous

[Melifluous]

And great Pull Dell!!!1!

Maybe I should start a what are you training thread?

I will.

Melifluous

[Plux]

Wow Dell, that must be the best pull I've ever seen so far. Nice!

[akots]

Guess by the end of season there are some decent pulls to even the misfortune:

quote:Miguel Napier (64835759)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

Speciality: Technical

Nationality: USA
Total Skill Index (TSI): 2 740
Wage: 928 US$/week
Owner: Chemists
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: passable
Winger: excellent Defending: solid
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: disastrous

The problem is what to do with this guy? Sell him of keep? He seems like a great wingback with not so bad playmaking (may play as winger in case of dear need) and I desperately need one. If selling him, then he is 19 (will be 20) and probably not worth much in terms of training. Transfer compare gives two recent sales of 600K and 800K. Seems like with some marketing he can go for a million or slightly less. Also, he is technical which is generally a good quality for defenders or so I thought. Head specialty though would have been better a little bit.

[Kemal]

Alas, no 17 year old excellent for Snaken at the start of the season... but a sellable player nonetheless I hope, or else at least a decent WTM replacement:

quote:
Fred Merckx (65599091)
19 :( years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 710
Wage: 589 €/week
Owner: FC De Snaken
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: disastrous
Winger: passable Defending: weak
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: poor

[Cruise]

Nol Roozeboom (65601590) [Voeg deze speler toe aan jouw bookmarks.]
17 jaar, redelijk in vorm, gezond
Een controversieel persoon die evenwichtig en oprecht is.
Hij heeft rampzalig ervaring en is een zwak leider.


Specialiteit: Koppen

Nationaliteit: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 1 220
Loon: 669 €/week
Eigenaar: FC Cruise
Waarschuwingen: 0
Fysiek: fit


Conditie: zwak Keepen: rampzalig
Positiespel: zwak Passen: zwak
Vleugelspel: matig Verdedigen: matig
Scoren: goed Spelhervatting: redelijk


Solid scoring, header, weak pass, passable set pieces.

17 year old, woooo :-D:-D:-D

[Shabbaman]

Lucky bastard. I only drafted utter crap the last weeks.

[Kingreno]

Me too, last 17 (!!!) pulls gave me an amazing 12k...[aargh]

[yndy]

Nice one Cruise. Shabba, I am so familiar with that utter crap you are talking about. I see it every week.

[Cruise]

0-1 Nol Roozeboom (1)


What a talent! [dance]

[akots]

quote:Felix Rios (66627511)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Total Skill Index (TSI): 840
Wage: 674 US$/week
Owner: Chemists
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy

Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: inadequate
Winger: poor Defending: solid
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: wretched

Quite good for me, better be powerful or head specialty however. Not worth much on the market, around 50K or so. He will stay in the squad and I will sell one or two passable defenders I have now.

DOn't know why, but recent pulls have been mostly 19-year old? Why is that? I thought most outfielders should be 17?

[ProPain]

quote:Aaron Dorenbos (66727593)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and solid leadership abilities.


Speciality: Quick

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 30
Wage: 500 €/week
Owner: PP SV
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: weak
Winger: poor Defending: wretched
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: poor

Wonder if that's worth something.

[Melifluous]

It means that he'll understand your leadership decision and be cool about it when you fire him :)

Melifluous

[Kemal]

Since I've been without internet access for the past few days, when I was at my brother's place I decided to let him do my YP.. from now on, I will force him to do them all!

quote:

Edo Barneveld (66763318)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A sympathetic guy who is temperamental and upright.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 3 260
Wage: 1 005 €/week
Owner: FC De Snaken
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: passable Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: inadequate
Winger: excellent Defending: solid
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: passable

[eek] [dance] [eek]

Too bad he is 19, but then again had he been 17, I prolly would have had one of those TSI = 50 pulls again. Delighted with this one!

[Melifluous]

Damn Kemal

He's hot!

Shame about the PM but can you really argue with the rest?

BTW is that Ray's brother? Seems to be a little slimmer [lol]

Melifluous

[Kemal]

[lol], in that case I sure hope he takes the concept of "training" a bit more seriously than his namesake... ;)

[Kingreno]

holy shit that is one grand YP kemal, you seem to do fine with YP's in general. Mine, again, had his age outclassing his TSI...

[Dell19]

He is 19 though. I got a solid 20 year old keeper.

[Kemal]

Wow, Edo Barneveld made quite an impression it seems in the two games he played with Snaken, he got sold yesterday for...

[mouth]

808K!

[eek][eek]

Seems like the YS really can be worth it after all then. [sunn]

[Kingreno]

Lucky bastard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


so what are you going to do with the money? It's not like your team needs an investment to secure the title or something.

[Kemal]

Not so sure on the championship this time, I'm afraid.. I'll be playing against the only other really strong team in my league next week, but over the last two weeks I've experienced a form drop of over 20(!) levels total in my squad, including plenty of my A-team players. [sad]

However, since 2nd spot is good enough for promotion too, I think I'll just sit on the money for a while, and invest it when the transfer market is at a low again at the end of the season.

[akots]

quote:Dale Ogden (67596886)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is balanced and righteous.
Has disastrous experience and solid leadership abilities.

Speciality: Technical

Nationality: USA
Total Skill Index (TSI): 1 060
Wage: 614 US$/week
Owner: Chemists
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy

Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: weak
Winger: passable Defending: inadequate
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: poor

Not so bad, a third reasonable pull in past 6 weeks. Put him on transfer market with 10K to start. He can go for 50K or probably even more.

[ProPain]

quote:Julio van Herwaarden (67725416)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is calm and upright.
Has disastrous experience and solid leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 860
Wage: 657 €/week
Owner: PP SV
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy

Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: solid
Winger: wretched Defending: inadequate
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: poor


another half decent pull, dunno what to do with him. Still in doubt if I'll go defending or forward training after my keeper turns SN. Need to make up my mind quickly, my squad is growing waaaay to big.

[Dell19]

I think I would sell him rather than keep him as he is too old and his defending skill isn't great.

[Kingreno]

Thta's not a very valuable YP PP. Solid passing and Inad defending is just too low. Defending takes way too long to train for this one to be usefull and I doubt he'll sell for over 20k, though I hope you prove me wrong.[blush]

[Kemal]

Hmm, didn't you sell quite some solid passing guys a while ago, KR? And some of them fetched quite a profit iirc, so who knows..?

Btw, I wasted all my luck last week and got a fine brand new TSI=20 guy again this week. [yeah]

[Kingreno]

yes, solid passing and scoring seems to fool a few and indeed some lucky ones get decent cash for solid passing and inad defending. few though...

[akots]

quote:Originally posted by akots
[quote]Dale Ogden (67596886)


Sold for 60K today to some Div VII club in Germany.

[Shabbaman]

I pulled a 18 y.o. passable scoring/passable passing today. Don't know whether or not I'll train him. Or not.

[Schip]

My new trainee! I pulled this one today, after selling a forward trainee for 900K last week. Talk about timing!



http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Schip/2005626214119_yp.jpg
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[ProPain]

Quite an ok YP this weekend. Makes up for the fact that arriving home too late prevented me to do a decent line-up losing a match 0-1. Prolly would have lost anyway but still a downer.

Seriously in relegation danger atm, so I hope next week will bring me some luck.

quote:Roger Burink (74488956)
19 years, passable form
A sympathetic guy who is temperamental and upright.
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 1 730
Wage: 745 €/week
Owner: PP SV
Warnings: (this information is not available while matches are in progress)
Injuries: (Injuries are not shown during matches. )


Stamina: wretched Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: solid Passing: inadequate
Winger: solid Defending: inadequate
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: poor

[socralynnek]

The first youth pull I'm going to sell since my youth squad has reached excellent....

Alois Roeßler (74321754) [Add this player to your bookmarks]
17 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is temperamental and honest.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.


Speciality: Head

Nationality: Deutschland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 550
Wage: 563 €/week
Owner: Grasshoppers Elm
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: passable
Winger: inadequate Defending: weak
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: disastrous

Deadline is tomorrow (Tuesday) at 21:49 HT-Time

[ProPain]

After KR tipped me off you only get former club money when a player has actually participated in a match I've alrdy adjusted the line up for next wednesday. Burink will play off course.

Any ideas what he should be able to get me cashwise? TSI is high and apart from stamina his stats are ok as well. Pity stamina is important for PM but with the interseason period coming up that's more easy to remedy for a potential buyer than mid season. Comparable stats with just 1500 TSI seem to be sold for 200K, I'd settle for that :)

[Kemal]

Also remember that there are tons of managers looking for skilltrades. These people will usually only bid on players that get free training, so for any new sellable YP, unless you are on of those managers that can tell exactly how high he is in skill, I always make room in the friendly squad so that they can get free training at the new club and possibly pop.

Those skilltraders can really push up prices to another level!

[Kingreno]

Uh, wretched stamina! training stamina in the off-season PP? that would greatly enhance his value...and since he's is 19 already I doubt the few extra weeks of not-training-PM/winger will matter a lot.

On domestic issues; my Youthsquad trainer was hung on the center of the pitch preceding last Sundays match. I have seldom got such a crappy season in YP's.[aargh]

[ProPain]

put him up for sale as is. He's wearing a 'sonderangebot'pricetag of 200K, and we'll see what happens. I dont really need stamina training atm and the form loss isnt what I need for next seasons start either if I manage to stay in the 6th.

If he sells for 200K I;m happy :). Sorry to hear about your YS trainer, have to say mine topped of an average season with quite 2 ok players in the second half, solid defender with inad. passing and the bloke that's for sale now. I'll keep my trainer around for another season. :)

[ProPain]

Someone has already bid 200K for Burink so he's gonna sell. Hopefully this will inspire some other clubs to bid as well.

[ProPain]

Sold for 224K, best youthsale ever for PPSV

[Swingue]

He guys,

For a beginning team a good clown/ second keeper:

Emiel Woudenberg (75003268)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A sympathetic guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 310
Wage: 665 €/week
Owner: SwingStars
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: disastrous Goaltending: weak
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: wretched
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: disastrous

Career Goals: 0
Career Hattricks: 0
League goals this season: 0
Cup goals this season: 0

is up for sale starting 1000

[Dell19]

At most he would be a semi clown and I thought clowns had to have solid leadership?

[ProPain]

quote:Originally posted by Swingue

He guys,

For a beginning team a good clown/ second keeper:



Hate to burst your bubble, but passable leadership isnt good enough for clowning I'd say and weak keeping isnt anything special as well. You can get inadequate keepers for $1000, why buy a weak one.

But I do hope some noob will relieve you of him, you never know. :)

[bed_head7]

After only seven (?) weeks at max investment, my youth squad hit passable, and for the first time I also get a guy with a skill above weak!

Jacob Todd (75524723) [Add this player to your bookmarks]
18 years, passable form, healthy
A sympathetic guy who is tranquil and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Total Skill Index (TSI): 90
Wage: 533 US$/week
Owner: The Dented Slides
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: weak Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: wretched
Winger: passable Defending: wretched
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: wretched

Even though two weeks of stamina training probably won't make this guy worth any more, I am thinking I will try to sell him at the beginning of next season and hope to make back the money from transfer cost. Hopefully I will. Though with the poor playmaking and scoring, he might not sell at all, huh? I'll have to think about it some more.

[ProPain]

This weeks pull:

Harm-Jan Gunneweg (75617487)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is temperamental and honest.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 830
Wage: 651 €/week
Owner: PP SV
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: weak Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: poor
Winger: inadequate Defending: solid
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: weak

17 years old... and almost at end of season [cry]

[Kingreno]

[finger]shut up, that is a great pull!

[Kemal]

Bad luck PP, I was unfortunate as well with a 20 year old keeper:

quote:
Tiemen van Marwijk (75613539)
20 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 3 380
Wage: 2 380 €/week
Owner: FC De Snaken
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: poor Goalkeeping: solid
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: disastrous


How was your pull then, kr? :)

[Kingreno]

quote:How was your pull then, kr?

[mad][mad][mad][mad][mad][mad][mad][mad][mad][mad]

LIKE ALL OTHER PULLS THE LAST 20 WEEKS!

If i'd put them all in one line-up I would not get past 4 stars total.[aargh]

So don't whine when you pull a solid keeper ok![butcher][neener]

[ProPain]

solid keeper is still nice to sell.

NOwt sure wether I'll sell off my pull or keep him as a wingback. He'll perform slightly better than my current WB I guess, but I dont really need better performance atm and selling him will get me 115K.

[Kingreno]

115K? I think he's 4 to 5 weeks from excellent. I'd buy him for that, it'd be a bargain! In the end I am guessing 200k.

[ProPain]

Sold him for 150K, sold good old Toon Niezing as well another 125k. Best forward the club ever had, 48 career goals, 2 hattricks, 2 times league topscorer. He started his career at PP SV when he was about 24 years old but despite his older age he had quite a magnificent period. We'll miss him.

[Kemal]

quote:We'll miss him.

Hehe, but not as much as an extra 125K, of course... ;)

[Kemal]

The instant-millionair-pulls can be made starting from this weekend, so tell us what you got after having done the mandatory prayers and other incantations to placate the HT-gods! ;)

My pull was okay, not 17 but a solid main skill is always nice of course:


Corne van Melis (76289262)
18 years, passable form, healthy
I speak Nederlands!

A popular guy who is balanced and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 850
Wage: 645 €/week

Stamina: weak Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: wretched
Winger: poor Defending: solid
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: poor

[bed_head7]

How were you able to pull a player? I can't do it until 00:45 on the 12th HT time.

[Kemal]

Ah of course, my mistake, I thought us Dutchies were amongst the latest to be able to pull, but there are other leagues that still can't.

I think the rule is that new players can be pulled 15 mins before the first league matches normally would have started in the league you are in, which is why you cannot make the pull yet. Be sure to do post him when you can, and good luck!

[ProPain]

Just wondering: iirc tomorrow all players have their b'day. Does that include todays pulls?

If so I'll pull tomorrow

[bed_head7]

I was wondering the same thing myself, actually.

[Kemal]

No, pulls made today do not age tomorrow.

[ProPain]

Nice pull, hope to get 200K+ for him. Maybe I have to wait a week before selling so he can play a match and I can get former club money as well.

Gaudi Paulides (76372845)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is balanced and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 1 080
Wage: 653 €/week
Owner: PP SV
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: poor Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: passable
Winger: solid Defending: wretched
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: poor

Career Goals: 0
Career Hattricks: 0
League goals this season: 0
Cup goals this season: 0

[Swingue]

Not a bad pull but after seeing ProPain's pull i am a bit dissapointed:

Jorn Zorn (76365486)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 310
Wage: 555 €/week
Owner: SwingStars
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: passable Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: poor
Winger: passable Defending: poor
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: weak

Career Goals: 0
Career Hattricks: 0
League goals this season: 0
Cup goals this season: 0

[Kemal]

Wow, nice going with your pulls PP [thumbsup], but can't you play him as a winger in your cup match wednesday, so that he still can be sold this week?

[ProPain]

I'm thinking about that but I don't wanna take too many risks I really need to survive 2 rounds at least.

[Dell19]

You might get more money for playing him and going out in the first round due to him being a first week pull.

[Kemal]

Indeed, agree with Dell, and with the new hype on FTW, maybe someone will even pick him up for that and train him in scoring... who knows?

[ProPain]

I think I'll have him play, my opponent logs on about twice a week and even with 1,5 star less on one wing I should be able to defeat him anyway.

[Kingreno]

My pull will be executed again. nice.

[ProPain]

Gaudi Paulides sold for 500K this morning, I ended up with 465K of that. Me happy camper.

[ProPain]

This weeks pull :)

Constantijn Lantinga (76839515)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 750
Wage: 688 €/week
Owner: PP SV
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: inadequate Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: poor
Winger: poor Defending: weak
Scoring: solid Set Pieces: wretched

Secondary skills suck but I aint complaining, as I;m training scoring and need 3 more trainees, he's staying on.

[bed_head7]

Ugh, mine was a 19yo with no skills above poor. Of course, my squad is still only passable.

[Kingreno]

quote:Guy Pruijssers (76901558)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is temperamental and honest.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.


Speciality: Powerful

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 10
Wage: 500 €/week
Owner: Aristocats
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: wretched Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: wretched
Winger: weak Defending: poor
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: wretched


Do they get any worse then this? [cry]

[Dell19]

He could have a TSI of 0. I think mine had passable stamina.

[Kemal]

Another impressive pull PP, congrats!

I suppose my pull had about the same skills as KR's pull, he already had a photograph taken for in the Paninin - Snaken picture album, so I'll suffice with posting just that, after all a pic says more than 1000 words:

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Kemal/200591822209_wretched.jpg
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Couldn't agree more with that name. He's fired of course, supposedly he's now working in some undergound "cave" trying to make a living on playing some trading card game... ;)

[socralynnek]

Donald Weuffen (77029553)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is tranquil and honest.
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities.

Nationality: Deutschland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 1 110
Wage: 728 €/week
Owner: Grasshoppers Elm
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: weak Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: weak
Winger: passable Defending: poor
Scoring: solid Set Pieces: poor


-----

That's what I call a nice pull....
Any of you scoring trainers interested?
He's on the market until Thursday at 21.43 CEST
Minimum bid: 400 000 Euros

[ProPain]

if he remains at 400k I'll buy him :)

[Kemal]

Looks like he's close to excellent scoring as well! A superpull, congrats! [thumbsup]

Btw, make sure he plays in the cup game, that will likely attract skilltraders and make him more valuable.

[Melifluous]

I dont know what the hell happened to me.

As far as I can remember I pulled a 17yo Solid Defender, didn't worry about the rest of his stats and stuck him up for sale for £0.

I open hattrick today and he sold for £592,720

I'm over the bloody moon!

Musta been a superstar in the making [:P]

Player ID: 76804503

He has a TSI of 740 so he cant be that bad :)

Finally some money from my YS.

Melifluous

[ProPain]

Apparently early season 17 year olds are some trainers wet dream. Personally I think buying for twice or more the price of an equivalent 18 year old doesnt really pay off. In the end the price dif between a 23 or 24 world class player is marginal and chances your 17 year old is selected for U20 or national squad are still slim.

BUt as long as people are paying incredible amounts for 17 year olds I just pray for young pulls and wont complain.

[Dell19]

That 17 year old should be 2 or maybe 3 levels higher when he hits 24 though.

[socralynnek]

quote:Originally posted by ProPain

if he remains at 400k I'll buy him :)


Only 3 hours to go and still no bid (although yesterday another went for over a million...dreaming...), so I count on you!

[Dell19]

Someone has bid now. I would be surprised if he doesn't go for at least another 100k as he is predicted to be 7.9 in scoring and thus a week from popping.

[bed_head7]

I actually got something decent.

Ed Feldman (78163897) [Add this player to your bookmarks]
19 years, passable form, healthy
A popular guy who is temperamental and righteous.
Has disastrous experience and solid leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Total Skill Index (TSI): 290
Wage: 526 US$/week
Owner: The Dented Slides
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: wretched Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: inadequate
Winger: wretched Defending: passable
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: poor

Career Goals: 0
Career Hattricks: 0
League goals this season: 0
Cup goals this season: 0

I am wondering if I should sell him or hold onto him. It looks like he would be about on par with my third best defender, so keeping him around as a clown would be good. If he was younger, I would definitely sell. As is, do you think it would be best to hold onto him or sell?

[ProPain]

Feels like I'm winning the lottery every week atm. 17 years passable scoring/PM with solid passing to boot. Bunch of inad secondaries as well. TSI of 3350, never seen anything like it from my YS.



Robert Kooper (78249345)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is tranquil and honest.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 3 350!!
Wage: 830 €/week
Owner: PP SV
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: inadequate Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: solid
Winger: inadequate Defending: inadequate
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: weak
Transfer compare gives 1.5 to 2.5M euro but that's for way lower TSI (1800-2800)

Still in doubt what do to, I can sell so the PM training crowd can bid or train as a forward....

[Kingreno]

Holy crap...one of the best YP's i've seen ever. his TSI is massive...National team material.

I'd say 3M you lucky punk.

[Dell19]

It would be pretty unlikely for him to get into the U20 team as he is over a full level behind first week excellents and does need a couple of weeks of stamina training. The solid passing does give him a chance but not having a solid primary would damage his chances.

[ProPain]

forwards dont need stamina, still have to look whats best for him, forward or midf training. If MF then I need to sell him

[Dell19]

The passing is vastly more valuable for an IM so thats realistically what he is.

[Kemal]

I'd sell as an IM as well, he will be valuable to teams later for his other decent subskills as well, which suit an IM/WTM better than a forward, I think.

Btw, and this has become a usual ritual as well each sunday: congrats with the pull PP!

[ProPain]

I can prolly buy a new trainee from the money he'll make me and havce some spare change to boot. He'll be featuring in next wednesdays cup match. Hopefully he'll find a new home right after that. Leaves me with one problem, what to ask for him....

Maybe 2M for starters or would that be too much?

[Kingreno]

What a decadent question...[cookiem]

Why not start at 0.0 and just be amazed by the ammount of new messages taht pop up after you log in after a few days?

[ProPain]

put him up for 1.9M and now we wait....

[DrAlimentado]

quote:Originally posted by Kingreno

What a decadent question...[cookiem]



[cookiem] == decadent ?

[nono]

do not underestimate the true nature of [cookiem]!!

[Kingreno]

Sjees he even follows me to the hattrickforum!! OTOH the bait does seem to work.[hmm]

[bed_head7]

quote:Originally posted by bed_head7

I actually got something decent.

Ed Feldman (78163897) [Add this player to your bookmarks]
19 years, passable form, healthy
A popular guy who is temperamental and righteous.
Has disastrous experience and solid leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Total Skill Index (TSI): 290
Wage: 526 US$/week
Owner: The Dented Slides
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: wretched Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: inadequate
Winger: wretched Defending: passable
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: poor

Career Goals: 0
Career Hattricks: 0
League goals this season: 0
Cup goals this season: 0

I am wondering if I should sell him or hold onto him. It looks like he would be about on par with my third best defender, so keeping him around as a clown would be good. If he was younger, I would definitely sell. As is, do you think it would be best to hold onto him or sell?



So, how much would he sell for?

[ProPain]

dont know much about clown prices, anybody else?

[Dell19]

Full clowns can fetch 66667k or something like that but that was a few seasons ago and a lot of poeple don't believe in clowns because none of the HTs have one. Semi clowns are worth essentially nothing.

[Kemal]

Clowns normally sell for 79500 I think. However, they seem to have little to no effect, so I'd certainly sell if I were you.

[Energy]

PP, If you wanna know if your new player is fit for U20 team, take a look at http://www.dutchstats.nl/

They have a tool to see if your players are good enough for one of the national teams

[ProPain]

Some Swedish guy bought Kooper for 1.9M, he was the only one to bid, but good enough for me.

That leaves me with about 2M in cash after I bought a brilliant MF this week alrdy, time to bolster my defensive line.

[ProPain]

quote:Originally posted by ProPain

This weeks pull :)

Constantijn Lantinga (76839515)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 750
Wage: 688 €/week
Owner: PP SV
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: inadequate Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: poor
Winger: poor Defending: weak
Scoring: solid Set Pieces: wretched

Secondary skills suck but I aint complaining, as I;m training scoring and need 3 more trainees, he's staying on.



Pulled 18th september, turned excellent today!

[arne1]

[quote
Pulled 18th september, turned excellent today!
[/quote]You lucky bastard.[music]

[yndy]

quote:Originally posted by ProPain
Pulled 18th september, turned excellent today!

I'd try to sell now for a hefty price. Alternatively, train another level but sell this season. This kind of players are overpriced by the market.

[akots]

I'm having a similar streak as Kingreno. The lasts crops has zero TSI, even formidable set pieces does not help.

Edmund Hunter (78809344)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A nasty fellow who is fiery and upright.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.
Speciality: Technical
Nationality: USA
Total Skill Index (TSI): 0
Wage: 500 US$/week
Owner: Chemists
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy
Stamina: passable Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: wretched
Winger: wretched Defending: wretched
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: formidable

[ProPain]

quote:Originally posted by akots

I'm having a similar streak as Kingreno. The lasts crops has zero TSI, even formidable set pieces does not help.


That's interesting, so set pieces does not count toward TSI, didnt know that.

My pull was crappy as well this week, inadequate scoring. He's on the golf course atm.

[Kingreno]

quote:I'm having a similar streak as Kingreno

HEY! yours is 17 years old!

[Kemal]

I'm cursed with 19-year olds as well of late, but I think I might be able to at least sell this fellow again:


Menno Felius (78868435)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and upright.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 540
Wage: 567 €/week
Owner: FC De Snaken
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: weak Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: wretched
Winger: weak Defending: passable
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: weak


@akots: that's some really tough luck, formidable set pieces must be quite rare to pull I suppose.

[ProPain]

quote:Hilco Valten (79488584)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is tranquil and honest.
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities.


Speciality: Quick

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 50
Wage: 500 €/week
Owner: PP SV
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: poor Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: poor
Winger: inadequate Defending: weak
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: inadequate

This weeks pull, I should fire him based on his capacities. Tempted to keep him for sentimental reasons.

[Kemal]

Hmm, I see PP replying again... what could it be this time? :D

edit: too late, too bad that superb 17 year old wasn't Hilco... but still, nice pull as far as name is concerned. :)

[socralynnek]

Elias Staßfurt (79397995) [diesen Spieler zu deinen Favoriten hinzufügen]
18 Jahre, passable in Form, healthy
Er ist controversial person und darüber hinaus balanced und honest.
Seine Erfahrung ist disastrous und seine Führungsqualitäten sind weak.


Speciality: Head

Nationalität: Deutschland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 1 260
Wage: 770 €/week
Owner: Grasshoppers Elm
Warnings: 0
Verletzungsstatus: gesund


Stamina: weak Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: excellent Passing: disastrous
Winger: poor Defending: passable
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: disastrous
------

My first excellent pull!
I am lucky this season...
As I am training PM I will keep him!

[ProPain]

nice one!

[ProPain]

quote:Allard Schol (80064174)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A sympathetic guy who is balanced and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 120
Wage: 529 €/week
Owner: PP SV
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: poor Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: poor
Winger: poor Defending: passable
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: weak

Career Goals: 0
Career Hattricks: 0
League goals this season: 0
Cup goals this season: 0


seems half decent although his TSI is very low. What do you defender trainers think: Is he sellable? Transfer compare gives me anything between 9K to 59K, also low TSI guys. Think I'll give it a shot.

[socralynnek]

Gregor Kittenberger (81795901)
17 Jahre, passable in Form, healthy
Er ist controversial person und darüber hinaus calm und upright.
Seine Erfahrung ist disastrous und seine Führungsqualitäten sind disastrous.


Speciality: Head

Nationalität: Deutschland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 1 600
Wage: 700 €/week
Owner: Grasshoppers Elm
Warnings: 0
Verletzungsstatus: gesund


Stamina: poor Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: passable
Winger: solid Defending: poor
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: poor


That's a nice one, isn't it.
Have put him on the market, 750000 Euro is the asking price. I hope he makes even more.

[ProPain]

quote:Pol van Avezaat (81871794)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A popular guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and disastrous leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 320
Wage: 537 €/week
Owner: PP SV
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: passable Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: weak
Winger: poor Defending: passable
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: inadequate

Career Goals: 0
Career Hattricks: 0
League goals this season: 0
Cup goals this season: 0


another 17 years old passable defender....

[Kemal]

Nice going socralynnek!

Btw, do these 17 year olds sell pp? It seems you need at least solid for most skills these days to sell....

I've been pulling goalies myself of late, but my yps TSI (and thus my luck) hasn't changed much because of it. :(

[Kingreno]

PP: Your defenders will sell. transfercompare is not lying there. It realy is not too bad either since they will be bought for training only, perhaps netting you money in the future. I remember buying a pssable 17yr-old for 10k, reselling at 2m. Nice for the mother/former club!

In other amazing news I may actually keep my rotten YP. He's 18 years old and has passable passing and Inad defending, hoping he leeches enough defending, or replace an injured player(!). Still sucky though[karate]

[ProPain]

just put up the 1st 17 year def for 5K, he played in my team so he can leave now.

Not sure when I'll try and sell this weeks YP, should I decide to play him this week then he'll be gone asap after that.

[socralynnek]

I recently sold a 17y old passable scoring for 25000 Euros, so I think they do sell.

And I already got a bid for 750000 Euros for Gregor! Nicenicenice...

[ProPain]

Sold both 17 year old passable defenders:
1st one : 5K
2nd one : 28K

not too bad.

[socralynnek]

My pull sold for over 1 500 000 Euros.
That was the dream of every hattrick player:
Get a really good YP, a nice bidwar between two people, and the one who bought him, bought him not only because of the skills but because his other striker has the same name...LOL
Bought an formidable defender for half of the money...

[ProPain]

I know the feeling. Had a YP at the start of the season that I sold for 1.9M euros, that was a good feeling.

IN general I;m rather content with my YS. 18 former players are employed by other clubs now: 16 YP, 2 starters.
My own squad contains 9 YP's, keeper, back-up keeper, 2 forward trainees some defenders of which one is quite decent.

[Kingreno]

And just one week before my ultimatum to the YS would end (meaning a deduction in pay to 5k/w) they give me this...

quote:Lennaert Straver
TSI = 1 110 , 17 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities [Head]

Stamina: inadequate Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: solid Passing: inadequate
Winger: weak Defending: weak
Scoring: weak Set pieces: weak

[eek][eek][eek][eek][eek][eek][eek]

TC gives very different numbers, ranging from 300k to a whopping 1M. Any thoughts PM-trainers based on his TSI?

[Swingue]

quote:
Kees-Jan Noach (82483381)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is temperamental and honest.
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 4 000
Wage: 2 425 €/week
Owner: SwingStars
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: wretched Goalkeeping: solid
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: disastrous

Career Goals: 0
Career Hattricks: 0
League goals this season: 0
Cup goals this season: 0


Not bad at all, only too old to be my keeper trainee.

[Melifluous]

quote:Originally posted by Kingreno

And just one week before my ultimatum to the YS would end (meaning a deduction in pay to 5k/w) they give me this...

quote:Lennaert Straver
TSI = 1 110 , 17 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities [Head]

Stamina: inadequate Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: solid Passing: inadequate
Winger: weak Defending: weak
Scoring: weak Set pieces: weak

[eek][eek][eek][eek][eek][eek][eek]

TC gives very different numbers, ranging from 300k to a whopping 1M. Any thoughts PM-trainers based on his TSI?


Wow. I think I sold someone similar recently and they made me about 600,000 POUNDS! Yes stick him up for 500,000 euros at a good time and watch his price go up up up.

Good work man. Should make you a tidy sum.

Melifluous

[ProPain]

Congrats KR! Nice one!

I made 1.9M euro's for Kooper. His PM was only passable but his passing was soil and he had pass scoring to boot. Total TSI 3350. I think the guy who bought him did an extremely good deal, I;ve seen similar TSI go for 3M.

So my guess is 1M should be possible. Should you put him up for 500K just make sure his deadline is on a busy time so you get that bidding war you want.

My pull sucked big time, inadequate winger, TSI=90

[Kingreno]

I plan to sell him wednesday evening, a little while after my friendly starts. He will play innermid in that game so anyone buying him will have free training to boost the sale.

[akots]

After much struggle with burning desire to stop financing the YS:

quote:Homer Vu (82453921)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is calm and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.
Speciality: Unpredictable

Nationality: USA
Total Skill Index (TSI): 1 460
Wage: 794 US$/week
Owner: Chemists

Stamina: poor Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: inadequate
Winger: passable Defending: excellent
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: wretched

Transfer list says he's worth around 450-600K but he's staying in the squad as a wingback defensive.

[Kingreno]

hmm, only 600K? I'd say more like 800K with the inad passing and unpredictable.

Nice one!

[akots]

Don't know, he is 19 years old so may be not a good trainee? [confused]

[Kingreno]

@ Akots: passing is not calculated in Transfer compare at all for defenders! I'd say that inadequate is decent enough for many Defending trainers to make him worth more than 600k!

:DSomeone already bid 499k for my YP.[beer1]

[ProPain]

17 year old forward Lantinga, born from PP SV's YS, has turned formidable today!!

7 weeks for him to gain another level, just a week to much to reach this season. Not sure what to do, sell now or sell 1st week next season when he has turned brilliant but 18 also. Any thoughts on that?

[ProPain]

did a quick transfer compare on 18 year old price now. Lantinga will be 18 and magnificent next season, same week.

No 18 year olds magnificent players for sale atm, just a few brilliants that sell around 2.5-3M

Training him for 21 more weeks means he'll be world class at the end of next season. Still very much trainable and there arent many players like that on the market. Maybe that's the best option.

[Schip]

I had the same problem with a trainee that popped the formi last week. I decided to keep him for another season and see how far he can go. So I'll be training him for at least two levels more.

[Energy]

You guys are having 17 and 18 yo players pop to formible and you're talking about problems????? :D What is that swiss air doing to you?

[Shabbaman]

Indeed, stop complaining. I haven't had a YP with a tsi over 1000 (or anything with any skill above solid) in ages.

[ProPain]

I'm not complaining, just asking for advise [:p]

[Energy]

Is this guy sellable? It's my first solid yp ever...

Jochanan Oosterling (83193471)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A nasty fellow who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 450
Wage: 592 €/week
Owner: Eindhoven Energy
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: wretched Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: solid
Winger: inadequate Defending: weak
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: weak

[bed_head7]

I also got a solid passing pull, my first solid as well. He had inadequate defending, and was 17yo. Listed him for 1k, hoping to get 5-10k.

[bed_head7]

Andrés Machuca (83185510)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.


Speciality: Quick

Nationality: USA
Total Skill Index (TSI): 1 090
Wage: 677 US$/week
Owner: The Dented Slides
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: inadequate Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: solid
Winger: weak Defending: inadequate
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: weak

Should have posted this originally.

[socralynnek]

I don't know if those two will sell.
Maybe beadhead's player because he is 17.
Solid passing alone is almost useless, and an 18year old inadequate would be a waste.
What are you two training?

[ProPain]

Few weeks ago I put 2 passable defenders on the market: 5k and 25K

I think it will be hard to sell inadequate ones.

Same for the winger, in my experience as an old winger trainer I found it difficult to sell wingers anyway, let alone a inadequate one.

[Energy]

I'm training playmaking. So maybe i can turn him into a decent mid wing..

[socralynnek]

Not really. He is far too low to be a trainable player for PM. And even as a winger he is too weak with inad.
That would be a waste of a training spot.

[Energy]

That's true. But at the moment I have a few training positions left, so I can sqeeuze him in and see what happens.

[Dell19]

The point is that you could spend 1k and get a better trainable player because it could potentially take 14 weeks to get him to inadequate playmaking whilst an inadequate would be solid or potentially you could pick up a 19 year old passable.

[bed_head7]

Got 30k for Machuca, which was a rather pleasant surprise. YP paid for itself for the week for only the second time!

[Energy]

quote:Originally posted by Dell19

The point is that you could spend 1k and get a better trainable player because it could potentially take 14 weeks to get him to inadequate playmaking whilst an inadequate would be solid or potentially you could pick up a 19 year old passable.


That might be a good tip. Thanks guys. I'll look in to that one!

[Energy]

SO, I figured if a yp with solid passing isn't that interesting I should get one with excellent passing instead :D. I got this one this week:

Kay Roelofsen (83800807)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is temperamental and honest.
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities.


Speciality: Quick

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 1 070
Wage: 746 €/week
Owner: Eindhoven Energy
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: passable Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: excellent
Winger: wretched Defending: wretched
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: weak

Career Goals: 0
Career Hattricks: 0
League goals this season: 0
Cup goals this season: 0

Transfer compare does rate him for about 20.000. I'll give it a go.

[ProPain]

Nice TSI, damn shame it is spread over excellent passing and weak playmaking/scoring/sp.
You would have had a ball should he've been passable/solid on PM.

Still very much worth a try selling him!

[socralynnek]

That guy might be worth training. Excellent passing is nice. And weak PM is better than poor.
But for a scoring trainer it might be more interesting.

[Energy]

I sold him for 22.000. My first earnings on yp!

[akots]

quote:Adrian Holton (84226416)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is calm and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Speciality: Technical
Nationality: USA
Total Skill Index (TSI): 420
Wage: 543 US$/week
Owner: Chemists
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy

Stamina: poor Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: passable
Winger: poor Defending: poor
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: wretched

It seems like a very nice pull but transfer compare gives only about 100K for him. It seems that the end of season contributes a lot. Probably, I'll probably put him in the market even considering I might switch soon to playmaking training. Any tip? I have never sold a midfield trainee.

[Kingreno]

Akots, if you're going to train stamina in the off-season I'd keep him a while longer as poor stamina is not that good for PM. OTOH I'm no specialist either, so selling him may also be just okay.

I got:

quote: Arwin Overbeek (84241121)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is balanced and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 750
Wage: 571 €/week
Owner: Aristocats
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: inadequate Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: inadequate
Winger: poor Defending: passable
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: wretched


This would be not too good but his TSI says he's close to solid defending, which I am training but I already have eleven people for just 10 training spots there. I will keep him hoping to sell some other dude soon, he may even leech enough from just sitting on the bench.

[Kemal]

End of season means prices are low indeed, which is why I personally have shifted to pulling goalkeepers, since the keeper market seems much more resistant to the end of season drop, I've noticed, making these pulls (relatively) more valuable, it seems to me.

Then again, you guys have been pulling some good stuff lately, while all I got is an inadequate goalkeeper once. Even Kingreno is now doing better than I am! ;)

[Shabbaman]

Don't worry Kemal, there's always someone even worse. My total benefits from my youth academy since september 2003 is a meagre 900k.

[Swingue]

I think I will let him play a game in the friendly

quote:
Wizze Staal (84253128)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A sympathetic guy who is balanced and upright.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.


Speciality: Head

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 610
Wage: 660 €/week
Owner: SwingStars
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: poor Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: poor
Winger: weak Defending: wretched
Scoring: solid Set Pieces: poor

Career Goals: 0
Career Hattricks: 0
League goals this season: 0
Cup goals this season: 0


and bought a new solid coach for 2.2 mil

[akots]

quote:Originally posted by Kingreno

Akots, if you're going to train stamina in the off-season I'd keep him a while longer as poor stamina is not that good for PM. OTOH I'm no specialist either, so selling him may also be just okay.
...


Don't think I'll train stamina since I'm facing qualifier. Also, he has poor stamina and has to be trained to at least passable which leaves him for stamina gambit guys to pick up cheap and sell for big bucks. Since he is going to be 18 by then, little surprize he is priced low. Still thinking what training to start next season. May be keeper, looks tempting and I'm free to play both 3-4-3 and 3-5-2 depending on circumstances. Flexibility is good. So, guy is put onto transfer list.

[ProPain]

well after my lucky streak I'm now on the pulls from hell streak.

Again a 40 TSI guy who's already entertaining him self on the golfcourse.

[Shabbaman]

No xmas present for me this morning. I'm beginning to wonder if my YS is really excellent of if there might be some bug. Not only is my total revenue way below average, but the players I draft are completely unsellable. Bah.

[ProPain]

MY YP had a staggering 90TSI. Obviously he's no longer part of the glorious selection of PP SV :)

[akots]

[beer1]

[Kingreno]

Santa forgot the Aristocats as well. Better luck next week.

[akots]

quote:Reg Watson (89223983)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A popular guy who is temperamental and honest.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.
Nationality: USA
Total Skill Index (TSI): 1 560
Wage: 700 US$/week
Owner: Chemists
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy
Stamina: passable Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: solid
Winger: inadequate Defending: passable
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: weak

Any advice?

[Kingreno]

500k starting price.

[Swingue]

40tsi, mhwaaaaaah, [cry]

[bed_head7]

40tsi is higher than my last four combined. I got a 0, 0, 20, and another 0.

[akots]

Reg Watson sold for 140K.

[Shabbaman]

Another 50 tsi chap. Hope he likes golf.

[Dell19]

Same for me and for some reason I forgot to sack my youth pull from last week.

[Kemal]

Had a 17-year old passable winger, not so great... what is even worse, another team in my league got a 17 year old excellent forward, very likely selling for million+. Bleh.

[Kingreno]

had crap too. 200 TSI tempted not firing but the Guilotine had little action past weeks.

[ProPain]

and also this week the dutch golf association gained a member.

110 TSI

[Dell19]

Johnny Fitzpatrick (91318620) [Add this player to your bookmarks]
17 years, passable form, healthy
I speak English!

A controversial person who is temperamental and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.


Speciality: Technical

Nationality: England
Total Skill Index (TSI): 2 020
Wage: 520 £/week
Owner: Wartham United
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: inadequate Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: inadequate
Winger: passable Defending: solid
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: poor

[Mistfit]

He should go for 2 to 3 times what you put on him for a starting bid...

Congrats, that one will pay for the Youth squad for a while

[Dell19]

He may only go for twice as much since he is a week 2 pull although he is pretty good and I will be playing him in the league game.

[Kingreno]

Very decent:

quote: Folkert Jan Verkade (91665343)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A popular guy who is temperamental and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 1 030
Wage: 720 €/week
Owner: Aristocats
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: poor Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: weak
Winger: solid Defending: passable
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: weak


Besides the Chocolatename, what do you think? Sell him or train him?
I am training defending and am looking for 1 trainee...Passable is just a bit low though and with bad luck he'll be needing 7 weeks or so to pop solid.

[Shabbaman]

My yp is testing the quality of the croquettes :D

[Melifluous]

I can't work out if this dude is good or not... help?

quote:

Diptiman Kapoor (91687002) [Add this player to your bookmarks]
17 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is tranquil and honest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Nationality: England
Total Skill Index (TSI): 1 130
Wage: 453 £/week
Owner: Meli's Manglers
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: poor Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: poor
Winger: weak Defending: passable
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: poor



[meli]

[Kemal]

I'd say a 17 year old passable PM/passable defense will definitely sell... too bad his wage is so low, he's probably low passable in every skill (but don't take my word on that, after all I'm the guy that bought a 1.3M low solid striker). No idea on price estimates, I'm afraid, as I never get 17 year olds to sell from my YS. [sulk]

Though truth be told, I did finally get a solid skill again today! [yeah]
A 19 year old solid winger.. must be worth a whopping 1K, surely?

[sulk]

[ProPain]

nice one!

quote:Herbert Bach (91720698)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is fiery and honest.
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities.


Speciality: Powerful

Nationality: Nederland
Total Skill Index (TSI): 2 030
Wage: 780 €/week
Owner: PP SV
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy


Stamina: passable Goalkeeping: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: weak
Winger: inadequate Defending: solid
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: poor

Career Goals: 0
Career Hattricks: 0
League goals this season: 0
Cup goals this season: 0



Any thoughts what this guy is worth? Transfer compare gives around 700K for similar players with 1000TSI, I;d say 1M+ should be possible.

[Dell19]

You have to bear n mind though that he is two weeks behind some of those other players so he could still fetch 1 million but it needs slightly more luck.