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Since it's our second hump at this old beast.
https://i.imgur.com/S4HGwOC.png
Khmer is good and well-rounded
Dutch are taken by Matrix again
Sumer is good all-around
Aztec have a garbage UU but better UB than Sumer
Boudica is nice but Celts are garbage
Pericles again, tempting
Justinian has 12-strength knights
Very tough choice, all pretty good civs and traits and none stand out to my fancy. Last game's decision algorithm would yield Sumer or Aztec first, so heads or tails: tails. Aztecs.
Move the scout, find Wheat and coast.
https://i.imgur.com/cECOK87.png
Wisdom dictates warrior first. I don't have agriculture so worker first is lackluster anyways. Greed demands silver first - need both mining and bronze for chops. Solid techs to get anyways.
https://i.imgur.com/PV4Cp2c.png
The Irréductible Village Gaulois thus sends Astérix (again) to scout for more viable land, as it seems like a pseudo-OCC situation on a peninsula. We'll see.
T10, 3600 BC
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I'll try to keep a 10-turn report pace. Ynnek and I have 2 pop, 1 guy has 2 warriors.
https://i.imgur.com/21nlpgd.png
The Village Gaulois is stuck up North in such a way that its culture will reach both ice sheet and desert:
https://i.imgur.com/E3uUiNu.png
Which, if I may vent a little:
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Though to be fair, the South is looking better.
We have pretty little to look forward to in the way of commerce-rich rivers and resources. Tons of food in the capital, nothing outside of it. In hindsight I'd have settled 1SE on the coast for access to crabs and an easier time sharing cows.
So, planning. We have forests. Tons of forests. 1 silver and 1 cow are under forests. Enough forests to justify 2 workers chopping right away to kick-start workers and settlers. Worker #1 will come out right on cue for BW to allow him chopping ; starting warrior to 2-pop went better than expected in that regard.
https://i.imgur.com/w6rOmnJ.png
So the opening will be warrior-worker-worker-settler-(settler?). Silver should allow for a painless REX to 3-4 ultra early cities.
Marble + I want WANT WANT to exploit my UB on slaves. Rushing the oracle for CoL (not even going to pretend an attempt at a Philo or CS slingshot) seems like a no-brainer. Which brings us to the next, bigger, looming problem: economy.
Sure there's a good patch of grass down there ... on my frontline ... that I could fill up with cottages ... easily available for pillaging ... and I might just do that. There's also a few nice river grasslands in the capital. It'll be a hell of a bureaucracy metropolis.
But really, my most efficient way of building up $ this game seems to be the Wonderbread economy. Wonders and bread.
Grow cities to size 4 with granary + sacrificial altar
Put 4 [estwing] into a 35 [estwing] axeman (or anything to max overflow)
2-pop whip it down, gaining an axe and 29 [estwing]
Dump the 29x2 [estwing] into a marble wonder (+100% for marble)
Use the short 5 turns of whip recovery to grow back to a happy 4-pop in a pinch
Reap 58 fail gold when the wonder completes
Repeat everywhere in the empire
That's the strategy, folks, and it means that we'll be valuing food above all: it gives more [estwing] and double the gold you'd expect from building wealth. I saw it on CFC, never tried it myself. HoF bigwigs seem to thrive on it. I have no clue how to best proceed with it so let's just hope it doesn't blow up in my face. I don't intend to practice it or make a test run either: we'll do it live.
T11, first neighbor across the jungle: ynnek
https://i.imgur.com/XVQoWfj.png
T20, 3200 BC
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We are on a brisk pace of nearly 2 turns/day (and would attain it if PP played his double turns when he has the opportunity - no matter). Lots of movement on the score graph on turn 20. Many new growths to size 2, as well as techs. Judging from #1 soldiers and +23 score jump, I might be the first one to bronze.
https://i.imgur.com/8WlNqKd.png
Communication with ynnek is on the slow side, as is tradition. It is known.
The land takes shape and we learn there's no resources to share at all: the only one with multiple copies is spices, which we'll both have access to. We seem to be near other landmasses on his end.
https://i.imgur.com/nvSDyiM.png
One single copper. Bummer. I'd rather have settled OrangeDot 1N to grab sheep first ring. However, we have no backyard => we need to forward settle => we need to defend it => copper first. It'll be a solid military city too, with everything but hill.
https://i.imgur.com/6W5BFpj.png
Ynnek's lands are forest-rich but resource-poor. We can't gain visibility into his capital (nor can he ours), nor see behind it to confirm or deny whether he has a viable backyard. Otherwise, having to wait until iron + calendar to develop properly will understandably put him on edge.
https://i.imgur.com/5Wwvtbl.png
I really hope he has a lush little piece of grass behind him. It'd be better having an ally than not. At the same time, I've got nowhere to go but forward towards his face and there's both copper and elephants to take advantage of. Heavy sigh.
T30, 2800 BC
https://i.imgur.com/enKwuSn.png
Silver is connected which catapults me to #2 in GNP, from dead last. Someone else has an improved mining lux + more pop.
Population is low. All part of the plan.
Someone jumped ahead to 23000 soldiers. Could be a combination of barracks, pop, archery, AH, bronze ... a whole bunch of warriors would also help. At any rate, relative strength with ynnek reveal it's not him. It suggests he has 1 or maybe 2 warriors, his warr #1 all the way SE on a deep dive through the jungles.
https://i.imgur.com/MKaYWme.png
There's still wheat to improve for 4F1H and cows for 4F2H, but the current unimproved forest cow (!) gives me a cozy 3F1H for no effort whatsoever. So until I have 4F tiles to work and grow on, I'll keep chopping settlers.
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Score isn't as bad as I thought it might be. Everyone has resumed growth (see demos) while our 2-pop capital churns out workers+settlers, chop after chop.
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The uncovered territory between ynnek and I is somewhat in our favor - mostly because of jungles on his end. Good land on both sides anyways, with a few rivers and good potential grass+rivers. He assures me his backyard, like ours, is only good for a weak city.
Let's put up this dotmap for the sake of argument:
https://i.imgur.com/4MpGgjN.png
Brown dot can tileshare with the capital, work specialists. Teal dot ASAP for cottages, pink dot can wait a bit since it only blooms with winery and plantations. Backyard purple dot when we can build a lighthouse and Moai.
Orange dot gets settled first to grab copper - doing less would be irresponsible. Settler #1 gets chopped in 3 turns by worker #2 while worker #1 will already be on-site with a pre-chop and a pre-road. We know from demographics that ynnek has no built up military to snipe it out from under me. Which brings us to sharing.
The white dots have practical food sharing opportunities with the Khmer capital, good access to grassland cottages, rivers, tons of chops, gold and stone. A solid share of the land. Whether it's a fair share, well, time will tell. There's 1 or 2 more spots to the SE with bananas and rice to be grabbed. Perhaps more.
When I'm sure I won the race to copper city, I'll be in a position of strength to negociate borders with ynnek - something along the lines of setting a DMZ on the gold-stone column and going no further west myself, in the interest of a peaceful long-term cohabitation.
Meanwhile Astérix will forego further exploration in the interest of fog-busting a clear path through to the orange dot. We can discover the SE jungles in good time.
T40, 2400BC
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Little improvement in demographics but we're getting there. Being first to settle has its perks. Let's give it time to yield benefits.
On the score graph, notice the first whipping from Byzantine slavers on T36 and Petitbonvm being founded on T37. The rest of the increases are mostly techs, some pop increases. Last place in population (6000) is below me and I used to be sole last with 6000, meaning it's the whip's fault, meaning Stapel seems to be making workers/settlers and whipping them out.
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With early bronze, my soldiers score was slightly higher than ynnek, which I thought meant he had 1 warrior and fewer techs - then his score jumped (with bronze). That spooked me to the possibility of him having built up a warrior army to bully me out of there. To be safe, Ordralfabétix the warrior was chopped on the frontline.
Then we re-equalized once I got Wheel, which seems promising: I bet we now both have mining-bronze-wheel + 1 scout 2 warriors. Assuming this is right, I get to make axemen in time to deter anything cheeky. Ordralfabétix goes fogbusting, we resume building up.
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On the diplomatic front, PP tells me Killer lost his bet while trying to invade his capital with 1 healthy warrior, 1 wounded. This follows after a rather irregular double-move from PP to open hostilities. Herr Killer is sure to be pissed, about both events, although to be fair his follow-up invasion against a fortified aggressive warrior at possibly +60% - thus 5% odds or worse - was greatly misguided. Could even be +85% (1% success) if on hill.
Closer to home, ynnek got my proposal for a peaceful neighborhood. He says he doesn't have copper (said nothing about horses) and he also would rather team up than let guns decide. The broad strokes of what I sent are a 5:6 split of cities on the main lands, he gets first dibs on settling whatever landmass lies to the SW and we re-negociate later for the SE. He kept exploring it while I was escorting my worker - settler convoy so he knows more than I do.
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Whatever happens with a treaty, I'll keep teching for Oracle => CoL. Maybe I can sweeten the deal for him by sharing the religion.
Long term peace with ynnek has been agreed upon. Peace brings me little in the obvious tit-for-tat sense, especially now that metal is secure, but I'd much rather we both had the time and space to focus on development before facing off against other threats. I don't believe in zero-sum games: we both gain by towering above the average opponent together.
New neighbor from the south: Bastiaan Stapel. We'll conduct diplo in French for him to practice a bit. Peace until 1AD, 10 turns warning afterwards.
This opens up a whole Pandora's box of possibilities for how the world is set up. Looking forward to figuring out where he is and what the continent looks like beyond the snake pass to our SE.
T50, 2000BC
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The choice to rely on chops rather than growth for early development is starting to flourish, with 4 high yield tiles improved in the capital and city #3 2 turns away.
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Matrix is flying away in score, similar to last game, so I'm betting he has a high growth capital with 2 metal luxuries for ridiculous commerce. He just settled on T45 (Brunch 43, ynnek 49, me 37) so his points aren't due too much to pop but rather mainly to teching. Creative financial also helps and I'll bet he raced for writing and cheap libs. As he should.
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Stapel was the first to whip (for 2 pop even) and he may have settled around T42. Not 100% sure. ynnek also 2-pop whipped a settler and put it in my face - surely hoping he'd bust my culture. Both are my closest neighbors and you can see them featured here:
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Judging from Stapel's 1 espionage against me, he probably has met 3-4 opponents. That's promising for our scout Astérix, who has already discovered a bomb of a canal city:
https://i.imgur.com/dhNIKPK.png
https://i.imgur.com/LVt78oz.png
So, in the short term, we'll need granaries and workers for growth and cottages. Soon-ish, we'll have to fight ynnek's creative culture in Petitbonvm with religion and a cheeky 3-chop Oracle.
T60, 1600 BC
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Population is low but crop yield is tied for #1. We are now officially in the race. 3 towns, 2 granaries (3rd building), 3 workers (4th queued).
https://i.imgur.com/kWrPGSU.png
The economy is shaky at best so we'll leave it at that for now and wait for a few key techs before expanding.
https://i.imgur.com/fLHLvrA.png
That, and Babaorum needs to grow into cottages. Wonderbread only works with wonders to build and we've not even reached the first.
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Power is waning slowly as I've been whipping granaries. Petitbonum is almost done with its barracks, then axemen ad infinitum.
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Matrix keeps leaping up in score. I think his cultural borders have something to do with it: part of the score is territory so if he settled his 2nd big fat cross away from his first, that's a lot of land to convert into score. That and high pop, high commerce, high tech rate. But only a semi-late 2nd town.
The 3 that seriously use the whip are my neighbors and I, with Brunch the greek just starting to contribute to the slavery party.
https://i.imgur.com/EfsuVOO.png
The area SE towards Stapel is rich and tempting. One day, hopefully, a GE will build me Versailles there. But that's just a distant fantasy.
Right now: Poly->Priest->Writing for Oracle->CoL, whip Sac Altars, overflow into ToA, profit.
Diplomatically, Stapel is still a chipper fella (and safely far away) while ynnek is giving me pause. Espionage suggests he's met other neighbors (might have been him adjusting my slider down, but somehow I doubt that). We agreed to share foreign contact info ; he hasn't. Then there's the forward settlement on Petitbonum, stealing clams and trying to grab copper passive-aggressively. I'll stand my ground with culture for now, but it's testing. When I get my cellphone repaired, I'll try and nudge him towards being a better neighbor.
Ok so here's the setup for our first Wonderbread payday:
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T70, the capital will 1-pop whip an almost finished axe for max overflow into Oracle on T71, timed with a chop. Nearly 50 hammers, doubled for marble.
T71 Babaorum will 1-pop whip its granary, overflow into Oracle on T72 for a handful of overflow hammers. Nothing to write home about but enough to contribute.
T72 Petitbonum will 2-pop whip a 4/35 axe for max overflow on T73 along with 2 chops. That will complete the Oracle and we'll put the overflow into an axe and/or a sacrificial altar.
T73 We get Oracle and over 100 fail gold. That's 20 turns of 100% research. Calendar is in sight.
Beyond that: Altars for lower maintenance, a few more towns for more wonderbread sources, and a bunch of 2-pop whips for Altars, axes, missionaries ... to overflow into the next marble big thing. With ToA, I hope to gather closer to 800g - and that someone else completes it.
T70, 1200 BC
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Even with good growth, our GNP is dismal. Babaorum will work dry grass cottages to kindof fix that but it'll be a long time before we've got anything to show for it. City #4 will go for a quick library to push a GS academy into the capital. Still, we'll need calendar for spice gold if keeping up is to be an option. Perhaps before construction even. We'll see how the ToA payday works out.
Also, Killer is really hurting. We may as well assume that last place in demographics is him.
https://i.imgur.com/c6t6EV9.png
PP and I are taking off — my good turn was writing + pop increase, I assume his was similar. Meanwhile, Matrix pulled a pyramid out of his hat:
https://i.imgur.com/LEERkiK.png
Unless his neighbors wisen up really fast, it'll be a tough game.
Ynnek has met our wonder-full score leader through a work boat somewhere while Astérix reached Stapel's borders right on time for open borders.
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He's got barracks and pushes out 3xp archers to raid barbs in the jungle. This being noble difficulty, they'll stay hungry most of the year. He's also been hoarding all the religions. I guess he didn't feel like learning to write any time soon.
Which leads us to the very linear, very snaky state of the world map:
https://i.imgur.com/X2AGXQ0.png
And the inevitable conclusion that those gems ought to belong to the Aztecs.
https://i.imgur.com/bJjCcu3.png
So the sensible move would be: farm everything, whip everything, mass ele-pult to clear the way southwards, establish a forbidden palace zone at or near the gems, regroup and see about a guy who started with stone and way too much gold in his capital.
Ynnek is gonna be ruffled when the Oracle hits his culture and I steal his lighthouse-clam. Then again I was bummed when he stole the clam to begin with so part of me hopes the religion also goes to Petitbonum, to really dial the culture up to 11 (or even 14). The only spot that could use a quick culture hit from missionary spread will be Spice-Town so I'll try and appease him with a gift horse religion.
This will be a 2-part log, too much happening all at once.
We built the Oracle
https://i.imgur.com/zm6lwfq.png
Then, we built the Oracle
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And the Oracle was the gift that kept on giving, on
https://i.imgur.com/6nxiQ6G.png
and on,
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and on,
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and on,
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and on.
https://i.imgur.com/h5B71yB.png
That's a rather slow tech rate, well under the world average GNP, but with our wonderbread payday it can be sustained at 100% for another 15-20 turns. This'll get us to Calendar and spices.
https://i.imgur.com/yuYgkkR.png
From spices on, the regular economy should be a lot more respectable.
T80, 875 BC
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How on Earth do I have 68 GNP?!
https://i.imgur.com/MdGfuOf.png
GNP = Total commerce + total culture + total espionage + (total research * research bonus) – expenses.
Ok, so culture is counted and the Oracle (+8, soon +16) makes our GNP look bloated. We're not even on the top 5 cities for culture yet, so all the cultural civs have been pulling this for a long time. $-wise, I guess our start ain't so bad after all.
https://i.imgur.com/FZV2neI.png
You can see the spike at Oracle, and a lot of whipping for Altars. Killer is also whipping himself raw down there, while Ynnek and PP are making the most of their high-food tiles. Matrix is still at 2 cities so his quick rise to #1 couldn't be sustained.
[ynnek] Ynnek and I are on 4 cities ; his capital is really pretty nice:
https://i.imgur.com/6ZumD4H.png
Stone, gold, fishes, it's got everything. Everything double, now that he's got the desert copies. Only thing he needs is to improve that rice and those hills.
https://i.imgur.com/bYHzxys.png
His #4 is a bit early to be that far out but he might have felt the need to close up the position, with an eye on backfilling later. Gonna hurt his economy for a while.
Stapel also overextended forward, very agressively:
https://i.imgur.com/cYp56CD.png
It's all jungles. He needs to pop borders for fish and chop every single jungle tile there to make it work. Preposterous. Distant. The Bay of Faith is far below, and similarly underimproved:
https://i.imgur.com/SlLtB9w.png
His score is stalling, and no wonder. He needs like 4 more workers STAT. Iron working, too. But he's researching MC, probably to fix his economy with forges and Colossus. Good plan, in the long run. Short-term, he needs iron working and workers.
https://i.imgur.com/tmoCCJM.png
Diplomatically, Stapel is a jolly good neighborino who's happy to let aztec axemen roam the jungle to fog-bust and farm XP. He's got religions and marble, we have religion and marble, so I threw him a bone and offered not to compete for ToA. Make no mistake, we'll build ToA, we just won't finish it [pirate]
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[doomsol]
Matrix has been met. His warrior scout is down in the Bay of Faith, about to trek North. He'd rather not open trade routes until he can benefit from them - fair enough - and has set all his espionage points on us. Even while curating our leads on the other 2, we've got 6:4 on him so, slowly but surely, we'll get there.
We owe this encounter to Astérix's bravery in combat:
https://i.imgur.com/6W1hCHF.png
He is a brave, intelligent and shrewd warrior of somewhat diminutive size, who eagerly volunteers for all perilous missions.
https://i.imgur.com/YfMCdSf.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f6/Asterix1.png
Now, a bit of math. Can't help it, gotta convince myself this wonderbread strat is worthwhile.
At face value, 1 pop whip = under 18 food -> 30 hammers -> 60 overflow gold. 1F => 3.5$.
Let's compare a wonderbread farm to a wonderbread town to a commerce economy town (1F vs 4C).
https://i.imgur.com/mT6ss5R.png
Say we whip a missionary for 2 pop in the capital, cycling from 4-6. At +5 FPT growth, Altars mean it'll regrow in roughly the same time it takes to wipe away the unrest: 30 food total, /2 for granary, x2 for 2-pop whips. 30/5 = 6 turns so I've got some to spare. If we add a farm, it becomes 30/6 = 5: the exact same time as the unrest.
Now that means we produce roughly 10 hammers x5: 50 hammers (10 of which go into a wonder), plus 60 (35 to production, 25 to overflow) for whipping: 75 hammers into production and 35 into a wonder. With modifiers for Org. Rel. (not forge), that's about 80-90 hammers of production and 75-80 hammers of overflow gold.
Optimally, over 30 turns, we repeat the cycle 6 times: 85x6=510 production, 75x6=450$ overflow.
If we work a town for 30 turns instead, we get 4 more GPT and 1 less cycle. 95x5=475 prod, 75x5=375$, Village +120$: 495$ overflow.
That's ... actually lackluster for the farm vs town matchup.
Let's now suppose we do 30 turns of 1 hill mine and 2 towns instead of the wheat and farm. No growth, no whip.
Hammers are at 12, OR makes it 15. Extra gold is 9 for 2 villages and a river grass hill mine.
15x30=450 hammers, 9x30=270$. Even if those were financial towns, 11x30=330$ still falls way short of the 450$ mark. [:O] Damn.
And we don't have to wait 70 turns for towns. And we get whipped infrastructure early all the time.
[:O]
T90, 625 BC
https://i.imgur.com/XkpKEOh.png
The age of wonders has crept up on us, with GW and GLH coming online:
https://i.imgur.com/WgQZ5EK.png
Stapel will get a good boost to his economy from GLH, but imo, he needed 2 workers and a settler MUCH more. That and iron working for a gems city.
Between Pyramids and GW, Matrix is setting himself up to be under-expanded. His territory is starting to take form, with a very recent 3rd city to the SE:
https://i.imgur.com/oLBJkAd.png
And I now have him on the demographics graphs.
https://i.imgur.com/8VAqI6x.png
A barb city has popped up in his backyard, onto which ynnek already has a scout warrior posted
https://i.imgur.com/VrWlqpH.png
And we'll race them there with a galley of axemen
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The northern little fishing village hasn't been built yet as it will take more time for it to go online, with lesser rewards. Our 5th city is a handful of turns away, right on time for calendar. Ynnek got his 5th first.
https://i.imgur.com/syfoNWx.png
We're almost 10 turns ahead of him towards calendar, with CoL in the bag, which is a sizeable tech lead. Can't wait for the next wonderbread payday.
https://i.imgur.com/Q7GbkyU.png
Killer still in the gutter, Ynnek and I maintain the whipping pace, Matrix still up there despite being underexpanded. BrunchTime the greek coming up like a rocket, recently surpassing PP.
T95, 500 BC
[estwing]
We have confirmation that continents are split 4:3, with Killer on his way to the grave, making it a 4:2 split. ProPain has now captured his outer city. Long-term plan: get a Great Spy over there on a caravel. I'll start working on one in short order.
[ynnek]
Ynnek is out of pocket for a bit so things will slow down. Our partnership is going great, with both of us doing a bit more than would be 'reasonably curteous'. Among other things, I'll clear a city near Matrix for him, spread my religion over and give him iron when connected, while he informed me I did have iron, has sent gold ahead of time and conceded future rights towards the gems city.
[doomsol]
Matrix has a size-10 capital with Pyramids, Great Wall and Stonehenge. Talk about flaunting his stone ; Stonehenge is of absolutely no use to him, he only got it to deny others just-in-case. With religions, Stapel and I have little use for it and no stone to build with - so I guess it could be seen as the first intercontinental offensive action.
[afro]
Stapel made at least 1 more worker, which is good. He needs a healthier workforce if he is to ever build ToA and give me a good wonderbread payday. Artemis is at 550 hammers accumulated so far. Our Oracle money is all but gone by now, falling 1 turn short of yielding 100% research through Mono+Math+Calendar+IW.
Don't sell the bear's hide before killing it, as we say, but I foresee a future where Matrix tries to play ynnek against me and/or where I ram through Stapel with elephants and catapults while riding the $ wave of ToA fail gold + conquest bounty. Unfortunately, Stapel will go into the grinder either way: his mass religion tech path, combined with under-worked, far-away expansions, left him far behind the pack.
T100, 375 BC.
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The F9 screen has taken a jump upwards with Killer eliminated. The "Rival Worst" from T100 is above the "Rival Average" from T90, across the board.
https://i.imgur.com/DDsFXbZ.png
Ynnek with calendar is going to take a good boost upwards. He needs it, what with his first circle having low food to grow. None of my business, but he should've settled 1 tile closer to tile-share his capital's fishes and rice.
https://i.imgur.com/4AP9hWU.png
We're still in good standing with #1 score, thanks to high pop and a few big techs.
https://i.imgur.com/YIWxafo.png
Still, we have urgent matters to attend to:
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GLib + Pyramids in a 10-pop capital. I know how that ends.
This means war. [ninja]
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Catapults, Triremes, Elephants.
His territory is gorgeous as well, but I only spot one metal ... so far.
https://i.imgur.com/yLeaOFq.png
This may mean that I can camp it with a stack of shock axemen for a while. He'll soon expand west to grab iron #2. I need to be ready for that as well.
Burn and pillage.
[doomsol]
T110, 125 BC
https://i.imgur.com/NxZTlR3.png
The game's 2nd war is upon us.
https://i.imgur.com/bv4vo7b.png
*snickers* [col]
We are at polar opposites of the map, which makes things logistically difficult. Galley #2 comes out next turn, so we'll have some backup in case of naval battles, then triremes within the week.
https://i.imgur.com/SS7nI5J.png
The first wave consists of 5 axemen: 4 stacked up by his iron, and 1 sowing the seeds of chaos in the heartland.
https://i.imgur.com/9ih0taT.png
His 3 strategic resources are in jeopardy: Ynnek has made a fresh settler this very turn, and has a galley ready to make the trip south. Stapel should be able to handle the horses, should Matrix even get there with 3rd ring culture. And most importantly for now, his current source of Iron has been successfully pillaged at the cost of 1 scout decoy. RIP Asterix.
https://i.imgur.com/DgFwccV.png
He has 2 axes and an archer in The Hague, 1 injured axe (from the scout), 1 archer and 1 catapult in Rotterdam.
https://i.imgur.com/qxJqRss.png
Both Ynnek and Stapel are dragging along on expansions with low food and high worker needs. Things are looking up while their development takes off. PP and Brunch seem like they're having a very close heat matchup over there. Meanwhile, our lead wanes as the Oracle boost tapers off. As for Matrix, his wonder combo really shows.
https://i.imgur.com/Sk4uYMt.png
That's just nasty. Icarus' hubris. Our only hope is stopping him within 50 turns before he can just ridiculously overpower everyone. The Aztecs' part will be to capitalize on high food output to whip everything relentlessly.
We made a deal with Ynnek and Stapel: he needs to be stopped. Else Matrix wins, no contest. They agree. And they need to keep Gronigen. Else I win, no contest. So we are at peace until 500 AD while we sort things out in the Netherlands. I'd be content just grabbing Amsterdam for a domestic source of gold.
1AD
https://i.imgur.com/WlOD2iY.png
Whipping 2-3 pop constantly like a motherfucker
https://i.imgur.com/QtB9BNj.png
2 Forges up. HBR next turn for elephants. Ynnek will start being scared soon since he sees it all get ferried over. We'll probably have to start discussing land concessions then.
https://i.imgur.com/wC5Cgxp.png
Temple of Solomon is a neat 8 GPT, in a strong commerce city no less. Nothing close to Pyramids+GLib+Gems but hey, we make do.
https://i.imgur.com/Bb4xlri.png
Lt. Killer M
19-01-2020, 00:35
such beautiful lands!
Works for me ;) Clearly not quite Matrix's but then again, less of a target on my back. He's got a lock on #1 now - and he can still expand. I look forward to finding your place and witnessing the shitshow.
Stapel is moving catapults north so my end may be near. Or not. We'll see if Matrix pulls off a 3-way alliance against me or not. The shadow of last game weighs against me even while he builds the very thing that got me the win...
T110, 125 AD
https://i.imgur.com/9eKCfEN.png
Back in 2nd place, probably for good.
https://i.imgur.com/v6A6yKz.png
PP and BrunchTime are closing in on my score while still expanding. Matrix grabbed the iron to his SW and killed our expeditionary force with catapults + chariots, which I did not see coming.
https://i.imgur.com/NMHbcpH.png
Elephants are trickling out. Unit production from 2.5 cities is limited: 2 galleys have proven to be more than I can fill up. Meanwhile Matrix is 8 turns from crossbows, Ynnek has just started to build units seriously and I expect a backstab from Stapel. I feel like I gotta prepare for a backstab from both. Either way, I'll need a much bigger army - Matrix HAS to be choked down and my allies, if they are, don't seem to take the threat as urgently...
https://i.imgur.com/NKt2a8a.png
Within the next 10 turns we'll have visibility on Matrix's cities, which will prove to be HUGE for the war.
https://i.imgur.com/eG3G7QR.png
It's currently quite low-stakes over there. He scouted with a chariot, daring me to attack it with an axe so that he could send more chariots back in. Our woodsman 2 jaguar dares him right back.
Lt. Killer M
19-01-2020, 16:36
I look forward to finding your place and witnessing the shitshow.
You will not even recognize it as a potential "place" when you see it. Bumfuck, ID, is a metropolis compared to it. "Tundratown" would be an exaggeration, because of the "town" part.
T115, 250 AD
Diplo update.
We're now down to 3rd place, behind Matrix and [swordman] BrunchTime the greek who has completed the Temple of Artemis. That's a sweet, sweet 1000 gold in our pockets from wonder fail gold.
https://i.imgur.com/5Ellncn.png
[ynnek]
Ynnek has made it easy for me to go out to Matrix's lands and he will start pumping out catapults shortly. Having 2 low-food expansions initially hampered his development but he's coming around well.
[doomsol]
Matrix held me off long enough to get triremes into play. With the initial axe team dead, and with seas becoming perilous, I have chosen a strategic withdrawal. We'll go the long way around. This has been precipitated by:
[afro] Stapel, who wasn't quite playing both sides, but he was wishy-washy and/or stalling for someone to grow weak enough. I wished for an alliance to stifle Matrix now. He considered that an unreasonable demand. Things get lost in translation, no hard feelings, not my first choice, but we need to grow. Since he won't join, he has to go.
The fireworks begin in 5 turns @Flintoff, the ivory city. The long way 'round it is, through the byzantines.
[ninja]
T120, 375 AD
https://i.imgur.com/RGVeLoo.png
The race tightens as we drop to 3rd place.
https://i.imgur.com/lUR1Bu9.png
[swordman]
BrunchTime the greek is showing off his new wonder and high food output, shooting past PP and over Matrix. The part where he builds ToA does play into my hand.
https://i.imgur.com/BkCm3Rp.png
[ynnek]
Ynnek has his food developped and it starts to show. Time will tell whether he keeps biding his time to grab my lands while the toys are away down south. I'll have to make troop relays so as not to send everything away all the time.
https://i.imgur.com/KAnlQVo.png
[afro]
Stapel kept showing outrage at the idea of me wanting to clarify his position and pick a side. When I proposed that we stay at peace until 500 AD while we attacked Matrix together, he understood 'stay at peace with EVERYONE until 500 AD', which would have left me hanging with troops halfway across the pond, a difficult supply line, Ynnek not showing up and Stapel's army coming north rather than south, eyeballing whoever weakens first between Ynnek and I. Not gonna happen.
https://i.imgur.com/xEj25Ib.png
We will end our disagreement ... forcefully.
https://i.imgur.com/v6OFn2e.png
First combat is a loss despite 76%, but our scout also won defending a 99.6% attack from Matrix. Anyways I'm glad I took it now, as 2 more axes might have populated the jungle next turn.
https://i.imgur.com/ubP1dGP.png
Large amounts of reinforcements are right behind.
[doomsol]
Reversing the whole amphibious invasion of the Netherlands was painstakingly long. Matrix barely pressed the issue though. Everyone is back safe. I suspect we'll meet again in Stapel's capital.
He's free to develop for a while and he knows it. I'll try and stay competitive with higher population, fewer whips, bureaucracy (next turn) and the extra land from Stapel. Everything rides on making Stapel's lands work ASAP, really. Matrix is a good builder-style player: the catch-up will be a bumpy ride.
T135, 500AD
Today was a good day.
https://i.imgur.com/JRl8i4s.png
[afro]
Stapel mustered his forces and tried to weaken our army with catapult collateral when there was 1 turn of bombardment to go, so we used that last turn to finish off the walls, promote a healer (healed all but 1) and let loose on the next turn.
https://i.imgur.com/dr2AHql.png
With great success. Total losses: 1 elephant riding in, 1 catapult at the gates.
[doomsol]
Matrix's army is sure to be marching East right now so we'll send a 2-galley war party to scour the coast and try to "bluff" our way into making him doubt, or double back, or allow us an easy capture.
https://i.imgur.com/eObBrBb.png
Still 3rd. Matrix researches Theology - either for Theocracy, or for further ends ...
https://i.imgur.com/i2KMQzJ.png
That GA could get him further down the Nationalism line, either by bulbing Divine Right or Nationalism itself.
https://i.imgur.com/k5aj5fa.png
That's a big gambit in quite some time, if it is indeed his plan. Plus, a cuirassier rush would have a tough time against an army of elephants.
https://i.imgur.com/AxcNXEU.png
First to Alpha and CS, making spies, will try to steal machinery and currency from Matrix ASAP. Stapel has HBR but no more elephants to use it on.
We'll soon have saturated our useful tiles in the homeland ; new conquests are a timely addition. Babaorum is working 8 cottages while Aquarium has 4 specialists at size 6. All of the great people options would be nice: spy for Matrix's techs (or Brunch's), scientist for an academy, or GE for a wonder. Bureaucracy in the capital hoisted it to 35 hammers (rival best MFG is ~65 empire-wide) while Petitbonum remains a crazy mix of whip output + hammered military.
Some hammers are being whip-overflown into mausoleum, slowly building up the next wonder fail gold. With conquest $ pouring in on top of the last payday, we'll keep running at 100% science until Education. Then, a quick whipping of universities will keep me in the game a while longer.
T140, 600 AD
https://i.imgur.com/80r09Xz.png
Keep in mind, there's 2 golden ages active.
[afro]
https://i.imgur.com/SjCn0ob.png
I keep baiting Stapel, he keeps taking bad 25-30% fights, chipping away at his own army.
https://i.imgur.com/yNMuJsH.png
We have a medic scout general and a few woods3 jags to heal everyone up right quick, too. 2 down, copper town will fall in line soon. This will fulfill an old promise to Ynnek [ynnek]
[doomsol]
https://i.imgur.com/XMwR11y.png
I was way overthinking this, as is tradition. He just burned his artist into a MoM GA.
https://i.imgur.com/Z7YXJXI.png
Which leaves me a bit richer, but without a wonder to dump into.
https://i.imgur.com/Sp6zRC6.png
Score is lacking but we'll soar again within 20-30 turns with the new conquests coming online. GE will make gardens in the capital.
https://i.imgur.com/DiK0Hkz.png
No one has engineering for pikemen ... yet ... or even closing in on longbows. The future looks good for the ele-pult wave. We'll try and reach macemen+trebs by the time we hit Matrix.
T145, 700AD
[doomsol]
There is some highway fuckery going on here as Matrix started gobbling up Stapel from behind.
https://i.imgur.com/iKM2GmN.png
https://i.imgur.com/LB3NCXv.png
[afro]
Stapel missed 3 turns after conceding his copper town and moving his troops back to the treeline chokepoint. It cost me 3 units to power through that spot, which is further reason why he should have settled there in the first place.
Chances are Stapel just got demoralized and gave up. That he would concede everything to Matrix is very poor sportsmanship but hey, we the irreducible gaulois will prevail.
[ynnek]
As part of millenia-old agreements, Ynnek received Alésia. We'll resume the march South in a turn or two.
https://i.imgur.com/0Ryp44J.png
T150, 800 AD
https://i.imgur.com/oMyN0rG.png
I feel fucked.
I got greedy and delayed Hanging Gardens by a preposterous 5 turns to include all of the new cities coming online. Obviously, that led to PP building it on the very same turn I was going to. So that's that. And it's fully my fault.
Bright side: our economy still runs on wonder fail gold for a few more turns.
https://i.imgur.com/8k011aS.png
That's a solid blow to our score as PP catches up to Brunch and Matrix keeps running away - now with a free lunch of half of Stapel's empire.
https://i.imgur.com/IKQLp9Y.png
So we are nearing the moment of truth and Stapel's forces are daunting.
https://i.imgur.com/uxvuIWG.png
If he had put even half of that force up on the plain hill forest, I'd never have gotten through. But he'd rather gift the leading player with half his shit ... bleh.
Ok, no more bitterness. Done. We have our work cut out for us.
Things are better than expected after a prodigious round of catapults pulling 20% victories out of nowhere:
https://i.imgur.com/ltOJ0zU.png
Which paved the way for a landslide victory:
https://i.imgur.com/lrZdSPl.png
That leaves 1 irrelevant catapult in play, and a Dutch stack sharpening its teeth:
https://i.imgur.com/TzKMfc2.png
While a blockade is trying to prevent my spies from barging in and stealing everything.
https://i.imgur.com/uhSv0kX.png
And ...
https://i.imgur.com/xWvBUDF.png
Done.
T160, 1000 AD
https://i.imgur.com/gjjP34q.png
[doomsol]
Matrix got fucked. He didn't fuck up. RNG fucked him up. I did put myself in a position to be wiped out, although I didn't fuck up so much as I took bold action to take my chances with this game, and got lucky.
https://i.imgur.com/GUE423w.png
The score graph is flattering to Matrix but that also includes a brand new AP. He just can't help himself.
https://i.imgur.com/XHtD290.png
https://i.imgur.com/YmFzcU4.png
I hope to steal engineering within 5-10 turns, which might require an uptick in spy specialists.
https://i.imgur.com/w8iRjKB.png
Stapelburg is now Lugdunum. We march West. Next turn upon capturing Antioch, macemen upgrades will level the technological playing field and put us at a significant numbers advantage.
https://i.imgur.com/ZggEe8F.png
The bewildering increase in our GNP is largely due to Mid-Gaul coming online with its sweet, sweet gem juice.
https://i.imgur.com/lFAmtFQ.png
Old Gaul is halfway through its university builds. Machinery hits this turn, then we go 0% for a bit, build up cash, whip the last universities, and resume research at 100% with better infrastructure.
https://i.imgur.com/sJkVBeu.png
[ynnek]
Ynnek comes from the North to throw a wrench at Matrix while he has a lead on his military strength for the first time this game. He should be ferrying his troops to the 2-tile island city he just got (unless he ain't, which our next batch of spies would see within 2-3 turns). I envy the intercontinental trade route commerce he's getting there.
https://i.imgur.com/z9KcWXQ.png
Now the big question in the air is will he want to switch gears and go head to head after Grönigen, or will we find a way to make a peaceful split happen and work together towards besting the other continent. That suspense will keep every turn of this game interesting.
T168, 1080 AD
https://i.imgur.com/x2L3vvH.png
Even after the RNG wiped him out at Stapelburg, barely 10 turns passed and Matrix has a larger force than mine with all the perks of castles and short supply lines. I can't keep this up.
His northern end is very weak and Ynnek doesn't seem to want to take advantage of it. Too slow on the trigger? Doubting himself? Honoring a cease fire turn count?
Whatever it is, I wish he had acted sooner and more forcefully. His military numbers are very high, close to Matrix and mine. If he launches, we may still have a shot. But he needs to go quickly.
https://i.imgur.com/ko4xEZL.png
My fleet is gone. My spies are gone. I can take Matrix on an open field in home soil, or in his forests maybe. I'll need trebs and muskets to do better than that and it would be a bloody hell. Liberalism > Cannons seems like my best option to fight him off properly. But he just might beat me to that as well.
On the bright side, I control larger and better lands now, all in all. The peaceful development route has become a legitimate option again. But that would leave Ynnek in the dust, which bothers me. He really needs to act.
Other options include pulling a Stapel (overtaking Ynnek for "free" while he harrasses Matrix), shaking hands with Matrix and calling it a day (which he may be inclined to do right now), throwing myself at him (YOLO) and hoping he exposes himself attacking me again (I wish).
T170, 1100 AD (2 turns late)
https://i.imgur.com/sgmzVPB.png
[doomsol]
Matrix's GNP and MFG are preposterous again. IIRC he went into a 2nd golden age. We'll see how he does once that's over.
https://i.imgur.com/0XgpUvd.png
He chased me out of his territory where I tried to dare him to take me on, which he declined. I tried to manufacture a chase so he'd come into my territory for 1 turn where I could slam my catapults against him and gain a sliver of a chance for the upper hand. He didn't chase, and I miscounted the turns of movement for my reinforcements anyways. Had he come into my trap, it wouldn't have sprung and I'd have been fucked. He's afraid of my musketmen (I have 0: you have to MAKE those and I have half his MFG). Hooray for his unwillingness to fight.
On turn 171 there was an AP vote to end the war against him, to which I voted no, but it obviously passed anyways. I should've defied it. Ynnek should've defied it. Oh well.
[ynnek]
Ynnek's troops were landing on a tile of his own soil crossing over Matrix's continent, but the tile culture-flipped so his army is now stranded on the midway island and he can't declare war right this turn or transport them back there safely. Matrix is trying to turn him against me. Quite frankly, backstabbing me seems like ynnek's only option left to stay in the game ... short of moving his army allllllll the way around to join mine.
https://i.imgur.com/1cekQgl.png
PP got Sankore, which bought me 3 turns of 100% resarch. I look forward to someone building Notre-Dame so I can race through Liberalism. With PP having paper, I won't risk any sort of slingshot: just try and get there first is the plan.
https://i.imgur.com/HSqARH2.png
Matrix doesn't have paper yet. Good. I don't need to worry about him building universities. I wonder what he'll tech after caravels. Espionage takes a long time to build back up after spending 1100 of it stealing engineering :cool:
T180, 1200 AD
https://i.imgur.com/uNunRCU.png
Didn't do take in the way of screenshots: Matrix used his AP to stop the war. My chances look better and better as Stapel's lands begin to flourish.
[doomsol]
It's been a quiet, yet tense, 8 turns. I still don't know where Ynnek is at. Matrix has spies on my army and wants me to move north. I'm waiting for Ynnek to make his move either way, and having a diplomatic cold war with Matrix meanwhile. Waiting for Ynnek is not usually what you want to do, but hey, he holds the balance of power.
[ynnek]
If he does nothing, he has no chance of getting anywhere. If he attacks me, I'm confident I can take him on but then Matrix wins the south (I probably would be ok). If he attacks Matrix by sea, he loses everything in transit. So he needs to bring his troops home and (hopefully) join me in destroying Matrix.
So we wait and build up. Haven't had a wonder payday for a while. The next ones should net us liberalism + printing press, and send us on our way towards cannons and/or astronomy. We'll see how the war(s) go(es).
T190, 1300 AD
https://i.imgur.com/i4RL1hi.png
Economics have gotten better for me, yet much tighter in general. Comparing my 4th position to the leader's and the average reveals that Matrix's post-GA, post-wonder economic lead wanes as PP, Brunch and I begin to control more territory to make up for it.
https://i.imgur.com/zKX9IJJ.png
PP has gained liberalism and its free tech, 3 turns before we could. That's a really hard blow. Brunchtime hasn't increased his score a lot lately, suggesting he has pretty much capped his food supply and is researching large techs. And isn't whipping for production. Maybe turning folks into specialists, maybe working a lot of hills, probably building up a large army/saving for upgrades. A stagnant score like that looks to me like an upcoming storm of grandiose proportions on continent 2.
I ventured into Matrix's territory with half a mind to capture Constantinopel. Then one fateful night, dog-tired, barely conscious, when any inkling of wisdom would've told me to get the fuck to bed (preferably 3 hours ago), I opened civ. Saw we had reached our destination. Instead of bombarding for a turn, instead of sending a spy up a hill to check where his stacks were at, I misclicked a treb into attacking. A zombie-like sunk-cost-fallacy gripped me. I kept bombarding, attacking, somewhat at random. At one point I right clicked my stack 4-5 times with eyes 90-100% closed. A shameful display that may have cost me the game. Somewhat disheartening... we'll have to make do with a retreat and relief efforts.
Also, be more disciplined about rest and sleep. That brain injury fog really creeps up on you late at night.
In spite of that, crop yields allow us to leverage pop growth into what would otherwise be a lackluster production. This may or may not be enough to keep entertaining our newest guests.
https://i.imgur.com/t7Aoch8.png
Our supply lines are looooooooooong. Yet, we have muskets in great numbers ... currently marching down the road to Stapel's old capital. If Matrix attacks us at Londinium, he may just win the battle.
https://i.imgur.com/VxD20iC.png
His 11 catapults are not geared for city attack but for barrage. He only gets 1 shot with those as they'll all die attacking garrisson 2 muskets behind castles. But if he goes straight up to Lugdunum, which is a much greater prize, he'll have to contend with a lot of fresh reinforcements, as well as bombard it for a turn or three. Thrilling times ahead.
T200, 1400 AD
https://i.imgur.com/iscz6PQ.png
[doomsol]
Matrix and I had a big showdown, which you can see on the 50-turn military power graph:
https://i.imgur.com/8p87okJ.png
We came out on top and are now heading back in.
https://i.imgur.com/CWkYhvt.png
[ynnek]
Meanwhile, Ynnek has free reign of the west and is sealing the fate of the Dutch. He and I are facing happiness troubles after both defying a peace resolution on top of Zeus built in Gronigen. Ynnek answered with a heavily whipped Notre-Dame.
https://i.imgur.com/P38NdKQ.png
PP is running away with the score as I suspect Brunch is gearing up his military. One of them has surpassed my numbers. If it's PP, he'll be a daunting opponent.
https://i.imgur.com/jjUSAQb.png
As for the here and now, Notre-Dame boosted our funds by about 1500$ which served to 100% tech + GE rush Steel, upgrade 5 cannons, and will last us until printing press for the extra income.
https://i.imgur.com/xOtIXZn.png
T210, 1500 AD
https://i.imgur.com/rz7oiKi.png
PP's Taj Mahal GA is over and we go back to #1 or 2 across the board.
https://i.imgur.com/S6QVjx3.png
[ynnek]
Ynnek's conquest of Matrix's north shores propels him out of last place as BrunchTime the greek stagnates. If Brunch doesn't act soon to combat PP, he'll be in big trouble.
https://i.imgur.com/OnMx765.png
[doomsol]
We stole Theology from Matrix and entered a theocracy. 5XP out of the gate will help our cannons nail him down. Liberalism next turn will also allow for free speech, aka 7-8$ towns.
We press on.
https://i.imgur.com/PNJoxmA.png
T220, 1550 AD
https://i.imgur.com/YKvYVzM.png
Technology and civics really did wonders for my cottage economy. Printing press +1$, free speech +2$ and free religion +10% research. Now we can sustain a 50% research pace that'll leave PP panting, with 2 solid cottage cities, a 3rd on the way and Stapel's old capital will soon be re-purposed for GP farming.
https://i.imgur.com/prwhtSC.png
*credits to Maarten for this find
The last turn of slavery was ... colorful.
https://i.imgur.com/X5apJBX.png
But since then, it's a nice, light cruising. So much less management. We'll attack Matrix within 2-3 turns, whenever cannons have healed a bit. I hope we'll have enough to break through.
[doomsol]
https://i.imgur.com/PhvwCmI.png
18 musketmen is nothing to scoff at. 20+ by the time we attack. He managed to make a handful of cuirassiers to harass cannons and did some pretty good damage. The die are cast, but we'll have to wait a few turns to see how they fall.
As for the rest of the world:
https://i.imgur.com/sI1QI4G.png
https://i.imgur.com/bRz9WPQ.png
They are solid technological contenders, with a landmass each. Kindof a sad way to play PBEM, and why I wouldn't have wanted to play Mali last game for instance.
https://i.imgur.com/OOUK1Pq.png
[estwing]
Killer's GLORIOUS peninsula was worth a good 3 towns of SUPERIOR worth
https://i.imgur.com/pKrIrOl.png
[swordman]
Brunchtime was doing alright but has clearly capped out his growth potential. He is the first to astronomy and will want to settle out the sizeable subcontinents of the great ocean. Gotta watch that one.
https://i.imgur.com/YVdaVYQ.png
[cookiem] (since [butcher] is retired)
ProPain has WAY too much room to manoeuver. He'll clearly be the man to beat. I'll have to pick Ynnek's brain about a way to deal with THAT.
T232, 1610AD
https://i.imgur.com/BhNNFe8.png
2 turns late because the capture of Groningen was falsely skewing the data for a spell. PP is still actually on top of the score, with 1 last hurdle on the road to a post-Matrix world.
https://i.imgur.com/1NoWgBz.png
Being the one to conquer Groningen itself had 2 advantages: the gold, of course, but also a few turns to switch into the representation civic. With mercantilism for free specialists, this is quite profitable. Doubly so once we have colonies out there for intercontinental trade routes.
https://i.imgur.com/xAx2oWr.png
[doomsol]
It's been a great run, hats off to IcaMatrus who tried to fly too close to the sun with wonder spamming. [luke2] There were 3 times when I envisioned a complete collapse for this game, including one that really should have happened but didn't. Thanks, RNGsus.
[ynnek]
Ynnek will make quite a contender once he's fully operational. He'll have lands and resources to rival PP and myself. It was a generous deal but I absolutely did need him to have any chance in this.
https://i.imgur.com/NEAD9Xh.png
Depending ont he player, I'm up steel, astro, press and liberalism ; down nationalism and military tradition. Early cannons and frigates will keep me afloat and safe for a while yet: not enough to conquer, but enough to deter (TM).
[cookiem]
PP will have cannons of his own before I can rush him on land, so I guess the plan is to control the oceans until my economy can convincingly surpass his, and I can leapfrog into tanks.
[swordman]
For now I'll try and hurry up settling the big island in the center-north before Brunch can claim it. More pictures once it's been better charted.
Plans for now: grow back population in the converted Dutch lands, hyper-specialize cities (NE and HE are up, a crazy specialist pump will come online soon), research for a placating economy and test the waters for sharks.
T235 update:
https://i.imgur.com/c2J6K2V.png
Diplo messages sent to [swordman] and [cookiem], let's see how that goes.
Finally found the time to read this. https://straland.com/images/smilies/smile.gif Because it's a lot to read! https://straland.com/images/smilies/LOL.gif
That's the strategy, folks, and it means that we'll be valuing food above all: it gives more [estwing] and double the gold you'd expect from building wealth. I saw it on CFC, never tried it myself. HoF bigwigs seem to thrive on it. I have no clue how to best proceed with it so let's just hope it doesn't blow up in my face. I don't intend to practice it or make a test run either: we'll do it live.
Aha! Now the cat is out of the bag. I never heard of that strategy before. But now I finally understand how you have been able to keep up with my tech. Although stealing techs also helps. Still, it feels like a bit of a spoiler. What a silly tactic. What a pity that it pays off so well.
Matrix is a good builder-style player.
Thanks, though indeed I was a bit of a wonder addict. And I should have rushed for universities and get Oxford University in Groningen ASAP. https://straland.com/images/smilies/wallbash.gif
*credits to Killer for this find
Oi, that was me! https://straland.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif
I was really gutted when I realised I was going to lose this game, despite having Pyramids & GL and such a good start. (Resulting in one scorning message on WhatsApp. [sad] Sorry again.) But once ynnek and you were attacking me from both sides, I knew I was fucked. I didn't have much contact with ynnek, except for taking the city you sold to him. So it's understandable he'd rather attack me than you. Though geopolitically it made less sense.
But that's that. Now I'll be following this spoiler with attention. https://straland.com/images/smilies/yeah.gif Especially since you're the only one writing a spoiler. https://straland.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif
it's a lot to read! https://straland.com/images/smilies/LOL.gif
One thing I wish I had last game was a turn progress reference, to see how I was doing. So I went a bit overboard this time around.
Thanks, though indeed I was a bit of a wonder addict.
And it's a shame to see you go, but like I said on whatsapp, for anyone else to have a shot, we couldn't just let you carry on. It took everything Ynnek and I had, 5 different invasions on 2 fronts, major hits to our combined armies and some preposterous lucky bullshit to claw you out inch by inch. I never write myself off, but this was played from a mindset of probably being a lost game, and throwing guile at its face.
Although stealing techs also helps.
2 GE to help rush steel also.
What a silly tactic.
Quite! I'd have been dead last economically otherwise (well maybe 2nd last to Killer). Without any rivers and few $ resources, my options early on were to go full Genghis Khan and raise hell with all of you 1 by 1, which I am (still) loathe to do, or try for a weak attempt at cottage economy from the get go, which wouldn't hold a candle to your lands even without wonders, or over-expand and crash my economy while it was held together by 1 silver resource. I didn't feel confident in pulling either of those options, so off we went into experimental strategies.
Without predictable AI timetables for wonder hoarding, it has meant a bunch of lulls where I couldn't research anything. To say nothing about how slow it is to dig yourself out of that hole of no good dedicated cottage lands and no pyramids for a widespread specialist economy. It's 235 turns in and I'm still working on the transition to cottages. Don't be fooled by the #1-2 GNP of late: free speech gives 2x culture, which counts towards the GNP numbers in F9. Ynnek converted to free speech too, which can become scary real fast. I know I'm still middle-of-the-pack $-wise as PP and Brunch have big techs on me (soon steam in Greece and rifling in Wales).
I mean, look at that beauty. That's how it's done!
https://i.imgur.com/VLboPbz.png
I managed to get a good cottage city early on, now with +3$ for towns (free speech + press), but it's my only one and it's yet unfinished:
https://i.imgur.com/PSVbqaT.png
Then the next cottage cities aren't quite up and running, with some cottages not even built in the 2nd best one:
https://i.imgur.com/tkcvHMX.png
So I'm rushing to Democracy for faster cottage growth, then assembly line for factories, before heading out to tanks:
https://i.imgur.com/Sfyy8NT.png
By then, I may have pivoted into a sustainable town economy. We'll see. Stapel's capital will make a solid GP farm. Drydocks were built during the last turns of slavery, too, so naval combat will be favorable.
I still don't have a clue how any of the other 3 want to play it out, diplomatically, in a post-Matrix game. Picking on Brunch would be just soulless. I'll try and expand at sea, build up defensive numbers and see how it goes for a few dozen turns.
It's a new era indeed and I'm very curious to see how it will unfold!
BrunchTime definitely took the most out of his land. Looks like a wonderful peaceful place to live. [^]
Anyway, I now know I should build wonders only to fail to finish them. Yet another tactic I'll copy from you. https://straland.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif But only in multiplayer.
One thing I forgot to mention. The reason I build the apostolic palace was that I was hoping to get the university of Sankore and the spiral minaret as well. Since I was leading in tech and had two high production cities, that would've been easy to achieve. But then you had to ruin it. https://straland.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif
Lt. Killer M
17-04-2020, 22:59
Wow, some huge developments!
Building wonders did ... wonders ... to your development. Mostly. It was well balanced and didn't detract you from keeping up in infrastructure or military. The problem was painting a target on your back the size of Texas.
I think you'd have won easily if instead of kicking Ynnek out, you took the opportunity to work with him. That was my single biggest scare in the whole game.
I only did the wonder fail gold thing because economically, I had no sustainable solution with my land. Maybe if I had managed to grab pyramids, I could've gone into a prolific specialist economy, but it didn't happen. It's working right now despite having a good start: the more you grab early, the fewer remain later.
And Killer: PP just settled your old capital back. 150 turns later. Wasn't worth the settler, it seems :p
The only reason I took that northern former barb city from ynnek was because it 'completed' my peninsula. But you're right, I should've let him live there and try to bond with him. After all, you were a more obvious target for him. He'd get the north, I'd get the south. Would've been a good deal.
T240, 1650AD
https://i.imgur.com/uSSIZzS.png
[ynnek]
Crop yield in decline to 3rd as Ynnek jumps up with 17 cities to my and PP's 13. The 1700s will be the golden age of the Khmer empire for sure.
https://i.imgur.com/KJ7li8V.png
Graphs are all over the place for now and I keep using my spiritual trait to switch governments like hats. A few turns of Org Rel + slavery for fast infrastructure in the new conquests while we work food for pop and wait for democracy to boost our cottages.
https://i.imgur.com/pamiZjE.png
https://i.imgur.com/07nEpDt.png
[cookiem]
Spices for furs sent. He's got rifling and cavalry now. But no navy to speak of. Let's see if he makes a move. Either way, I have full espionage visibility over his cities.
https://i.imgur.com/QwfwOiN.png
[swordman]
Diplo message sent, hasn't even read it 4 days later. Little to trade. Maybe I should've pounced on him earlier to initiate diplo as soon as his rcaravels reached me. Oh well. Also: espionage visibility.
https://i.imgur.com/Wgf7llr.png
[tubs]
Out at sea, we found viable spots for whales,
https://i.imgur.com/PGPt4Kf.png
A national park specialist city w/ forest preserves,
https://i.imgur.com/nE9aWME.png
Horses and cottages,
https://i.imgur.com/J1fNgU9.png
Extra wine for trades,
https://i.imgur.com/8foFwTe.png
And a big one to be charted by way of explorer (with juicy bonus XP for a 2nd great general explorer medic)
https://i.imgur.com/HYMzxgG.png
T245
https://i.imgur.com/L0K4Nww.png
Nice place for a vacation resort.
I had considered rushing for astronomy, so that I could settle there while you two were squashing me. It's a bit awkwardly located for you, though. That is, on the other side of the map.
Speaking of awkwardly placed, Greece:
https://i.imgur.com/wgxOYJs.png
He's got tons of obsolete iron-age units, but also steel next turn. I plan on stealing Economics from him shortly. I doubt I can pull Steam though, that would take too long.
Lt. Killer M
25-04-2020, 20:16
that island screams "colony"!
Poor guy has barely played! I mean, no interaction, no neighbors. I can't invade him! I just feel too bad about it. No reply to diplo messages either. He got Steel this turn for cannons. I'll smother him a bit with privateers and see how the other 2 play it.
OTOH, PP has taken spices and wheat for furs and corn (or something similar) so I know he's still kicking. Rifling and cavalry are up on the ol' Killer continent. Full world map soon, will post when it's official.
Lt. Killer M
26-04-2020, 14:33
Ha, I was waiting for the pirates ;)
T250, 1700AD
https://i.imgur.com/l3GStLl.png
[swordman]
BrunchTime the Greek keeps driving that tech forward like there's no tomorrow. First to steam, second to cannons, now going for grenadiers. He may not have the best production but I bet his income can upgrade a bitchin' ton of units in no time. I offered to trade him metal luxes for a small amount of gold, so as to get the ball rolling ... he declined and didn't reply.
https://i.imgur.com/GPmGUG2.png
[cookiem]
PP is almost entirely mapped. The "Embassy" is where espionage costs the least amount, and thus where I'll be stealing from. He's got 3 great people and 2 stone age boats, backed by a state-of-the-art cavalry and riflemen home force. I offered to trade luxes, he answered with a lux + health trade: that's wehere we're at.
[ynnek]
I asked Ynnek how he saw us moving forward, opened the door to a permanent defensive pact, or a planned war on each other, or everything and anything in between, but no response. He just keeps on developping.
https://i.imgur.com/1U4ROFU.png
Meanwhile I'll grab SoL while it's hot and farm barbarians for XP.
https://i.imgur.com/CjcqShD.png
https://i.imgur.com/6dySw19.png
T255: as I pass him in score, PP sends his first frigate out for a naval stare-down across the prow:
https://i.imgur.com/KCojlC2.png
Coal revealed, only 1 source on the entire continent:
https://i.imgur.com/cNn05DR.png
[ynnek] One near Ynnek
https://i.imgur.com/Sedsuld.png
[swordman] None in Greece, though many at sea:
https://i.imgur.com/bY6czFM.png
And our world map is finally complete with Celtia under scrutiny:
https://i.imgur.com/gsk3hKY.png
T260, 1750AD
https://i.imgur.com/IawEn2A.png
Economic numbers are way down as we switch from a mercantile economy
https://i.imgur.com/cMLnJ1Y.png
To our permanent marxist-communist utopia!
https://i.imgur.com/4ZKI3Py.png
Changing from caste to emancipation means fewer merchants/scientists but better cottage growth in the 2 towns where it matters - so that's a temporary setback. Changing from mercantilism to state property gives us fewer specialists but eliminates distance costs: income a bit lower but much less is lost.
That gives us a break-even 80% research pace :cool:
Statue of liberty will bring back free specialists soon. We're about to gain even more specialists as the workshop food grows population in production centers.
[ynnek]
Ynnek continues his meteoric rise to the top and has finally, almost a month later, said he'll get back to me regarding where we stand diplomatically for the future of the game.
https://i.imgur.com/OAL68xv.png
Meanwhile, he's up Military Tradition on us ...
https://i.imgur.com/QD85blD.png
[swordman]
From the classified intel dossier:
"BrunchTime almost has his first cannon. His tech is on-point but with no production and thus no fast expansion at sea to capitalize on his early Astronomy, he's a pushover waiting to be conquered, raped and pillaged."
Content with their assessment, our spies took what they could and packed their suitcases.
https://i.imgur.com/utxJEnT.png
[cookiem]
PP seems to have an eye for suffrage, emancipation and statue of liberty
https://i.imgur.com/TjLoZ1s.png
... but we'll beat him to that, flat. He has no GE for a wonder-steal either.
The naval build-up and stare-down continues,
https://i.imgur.com/P3brDew.png
now with 2 frigates on his side, pirates joining the fray, and bonfires lit under the deck of our most modern defensive unit yet:
https://i.imgur.com/8gYAC1D.png
T270, 1800 AD
https://i.imgur.com/3LEbMx3.png
We have entered a Golden Age, our very first, and stats are looking great.
https://i.imgur.com/ZOAobSD.png
The critical techs spy ops are mostly over ; we have a solid tech lead. Economics was stolen, Physics and Communism were acquired for free GPs, we'll be first to infantry by a mile.
https://i.imgur.com/Dbi2yfw.png
Once we get there, we set sail Westwards and capture ourselves a piece of Greece.
https://i.imgur.com/pejRPd3.png
The sea has been colonized without opposition,
https://i.imgur.com/LIcRmEp.png
And if opposition was to manifest itself, a wolfpack of pirates is prowling, sharpening their teeth...
https://i.imgur.com/WFhmESD.png
[cookiem]
PP's lands are being revealed. Most of the spy points will now be spent sabotaging production. And boy do we have spy points to spare.
https://i.imgur.com/ooUMaSW.png
[ynnek]
Diplo talks with Ynnek can be summed up as "exhausted with the pandemic too? Yeah, let's just keep on keeping on and not worry about it." I certainly don't have an equal amount of energy to put into this every day, so I'm grateful for the smooth sailing on home soil. It would be very awkward and
time consuming to even consider a war with Ynnek, so that's out of the question. No higher commitment, just the solid handshake of 2 guys who can't be arsed, as they used to say in here.
https://i.imgur.com/6y6SeyG.png
Next up: the war of 1812 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7jlFZhprU4
T275, 1810AD
Golden ages are over for PP and I, though Ynnek started his
https://i.imgur.com/m9cwoQH.png
We have reached Assembly Line, upgraded infantries and are now building factories. The military power graph took a turn
https://i.imgur.com/DCLCbdU.png
A last look at the score graph while it includes [swordman] Greece
https://i.imgur.com/KNoMAu1.png?1
No turning back now
https://i.imgur.com/EPynGPW.png
Lt. Killer M
20-05-2020, 07:07
Greece looks like Norway to your Sweden ;)
His entire empire's production capability is 2/3 of a cannon per turn.
https://i.imgur.com/NhYtIVz.png
Let's hope his $ upgrades have more potential.
https://i.imgur.com/QKeCW7v.png
The war of 1812 has begun.
T280, 1820AD
https://i.imgur.com/j5mzNH0.png
[ynnek]
Ynnek's GA shows just how fearsome his income has become.
https://i.imgur.com/SrxweHd.png
However, he's still behind scientific method, and now wastes turns on the obsolete Military Science's grenadiers and ships of the line.
https://i.imgur.com/7gur8mv.png
[cookiem]
PP keeps growing slowly but that won't be enough anymore, as we see Ynnek passing his score while 2-3 techs behind. He needs to act. Meanwhile, our secret services have sabotaged a security bureau where I did most of my spying, and the Ironworks (!) (That cost as much as stealing a whole tech!).
https://i.imgur.com/FsPjSl2.png
[swordman]
Greece won't be in trouble much longer. Athens falls in ~3 turns, 4 tops, so everything should be over by the next tenday report. We got careless and captured Mycenae rather than razing it ... worthless PoS. Operation Thermopylae is aimed at providing an opening for him to recapture, so I can re-raze right back.
However, he has spent 1 minute playing his last 2 turns. Suffice to say he has capitulated and now goes through the motions.
https://i.imgur.com/KE4B0MQ.png
We've been researching slowly, using the gold from conquests and budget surpluses to upgrade infantry all over the place. Should Ynnek get any ideas, we'll have a head-start upgrading our defenses.
https://i.imgur.com/Hs083ZW.png
Our major production centers are soon to be all electrified, ironworks is built, and we wait for Greece to come back online before we trigger the next GA with a zillion towns at +1 hammers. This should coincide with the availability of tanks and the near-completion of our rail network, in about 15 turns. Which more or less schedules an invasion of Celtia in 25-30 turns, mid-June, when my vacations begin.
T285, 1830AD
https://i.imgur.com/1gD3lom.png
https://i.imgur.com/3YD0CQe.png
T290, 1840AD
https://i.imgur.com/OKjfslF.png
It's quiet.
[ynnek] [sleep]
Too quiet.
[cookiem] [sleep]
Greece coming back online and Ynnek's GA ending brought me back to #1 GNP. We have left PP in the dust, in that regard.
https://i.imgur.com/D2C7tUL.png
Everyone has assembly line but my factories are up with a power plant everywhere that counts, theirs are building. Ynnek has combustion but I have a half dozen destroyers already up. Everyone has rails but my entire empire is connected by rail end-to-end, with infantry+machinegunners defender pairs everywhere soon.
https://i.imgur.com/frHE93F.png
The advantage feels slim but the gap will widen just enough with industrialism, tanks and a GA's worth of producing them. Then, we march on the celts.
T295, 1850AD
https://i.imgur.com/Kj4f2BM.png
Parallel golden ages for us and [ynnek] sets us both far apart from PP in demographics, and especially our production capacity that is now triple the celts'.
A defensive pact has been signed with [ynnek] in-game. [cookiem] has received our 10-turn cancellation warning for what resource deals we had.
[cookiem]
PP has started putting his infantry on the west coast, and cavalry as a 2nd line. Still all spread out.
https://i.imgur.com/3scQdUg.png
Meanwhile, the victorious forces out of Greece are back and in range for their industrial refitting. The golden age will be spent on upgrades to destroyers, transports and machineguns while our factories pump out battleships, tanks and marines.
https://i.imgur.com/mrC0lYu.png
Settlers and combat engineers are ready to join in and establish airfields in the islands off the celtic coast. Battle plans to follow in the next report.
Strange choice by socralynnek. If he'd want to have any chance of winning, an alliance with ProPain would make more sense. I guess he prefers to remain 'loyal' and settles for the second price.
By the way, it looks like you're close to a domination victory already.
I agree that it's not his best shot at winning, unless you count going for a betrayal attempt while I'm overseas, but I very much mirror the "can't be arsed" attitude right back at him.
A worldwide plague does that to you.
So I went for Greece instead of claiming our continent, and then only because it felt like I needed the additional economic output to keep ahead of [ynnek] — which may not have been the case after all, thanks to a ludicrous lead in MFG power.
In fact, I'd have enjoyed going about my day counting the turns until we can race for space, each on their own turf, except no one's heart seems to be into it anymore. Going for PP now seems like the merciful way to conclude the game.
Had to check:
https://i.imgur.com/fx5jUOn.png
With all of [cookiem]'s land and pop, I might get domination, barely.
T300, 1860AD
https://i.imgur.com/Ogxj3nc.png
[ynnek] The Khmer are 5-10 turns from overtaking our score
https://i.imgur.com/A434gsq.png
We'll use our last 3 turns of GA to grab Flight
https://i.imgur.com/sUtu1Rp.png
And prepare for D-Day.
LZ Alpha is virtually undefended. With a squad of marine and infantry, softened by airship and destroyer bombardment, we should be able to establish a foothold in Killer's old capital. Bonus: we deny the only source of healthy sheep for celts to shag.
Make no mistake: the #1 priority of this war is to bring glory back to Sumerian lands. Hence: LZ Alpha.
https://i.imgur.com/a4ZBtRW.png
LZ Bravo holds the cache of camo gear. Though there are too many patches for us to deny them to PP, a swift takeover of this resource will help immensely with morale at home.
Once captured, the Bravo team will create a diversion by sending its roaming tanks and sea-borne marines along the east coast.
https://i.imgur.com/AzrHGwH.png
The main battle lines will be drawn on the West coast, where PP expects it.
Hopefully, not HOW he expects it.
https://i.imgur.com/flj0fAn.png
[tank]
Oirschot and Bergeijk are well defended, but LZ Omega is set above those juicier targets. There we can gain a foothold from which to deploy tanks, alongside the remnants of our cavalry.
[soldier]
With that objective in the bag, and a number of fast units running amok inside the enemy lines, we hope to disorient and fragment the [cookiem] response. A larger contingent of conventional warfare units will land outside Oirschot to meet the enemy with canons and trenches.
https://i.imgur.com/ilqIRID.png
Assuming victories at A, B and O, destroyers will deploy blockades at strategic locations. Airships will encroach from Sumerian lands to the East and an airstrip settled in the West Islands. Spies and/or fighter planes will bust their only manufactures of incense and gold (smoke and glitter) to hit enemy morale. Ferries will reinforce B and O every turn.
https://i.imgur.com/DMn0rNV.png
Take heart, this is almost over.
[beer1]
Creating a diversion, how clever! You seem to address the attack meticulously efficient. [coool]
PP hasn't played in nearly a week though, so it'll feel a lot less clever executing it by myself.
D-Day minus 1, in images:
A last minute attempt at screwing with PP's civics
https://i.imgur.com/RSDVmU6.png
https://i.imgur.com/pBmKwXR.png
Select top Aztec cities (https://imgur.com/a/KCeIPjB)
Military strength comparison (https://imgur.com/a/v5iM44e)
T305, https://i.imgur.com/ot5T2AV.png
https://i.imgur.com/3Mz4vZz.png
[estwing] HQ has been restored and turned into a forward airbase @ LZ Alpha
https://i.imgur.com/2G9Tovd.png
[cookiem] LZ Bravo offered no resistance and tanks rolled right through to the next target while a boatful of marines are aimed at the next city up the East coast
https://i.imgur.com/N3XRaLk.png
https://i.imgur.com/9MfJyEi.png
As expected, LZ Omega was best prepared
https://i.imgur.com/JAFPiZg.png
But a few promotions turned the final LZ @ Boxtel
https://i.imgur.com/9vCM4Th.png
Into a staging ground for a quick blitzkrieg upon Shijndel
https://i.imgur.com/3W1Vv9q.png
Paving the way for a more serious army on a more serious target.
https://i.imgur.com/LWRvaVW.png
Spy games to remove the Police State civic were unsuccessful again (4 failures at 67-85%),
https://i.imgur.com/Y9bvEqQ.png
But our blockades have proven extremely effective at denying seafood resources as well as oversea trade.
https://i.imgur.com/5GnN4zy.png
We expect 1 turn of counterattack, if that, followed by a swift victory.
T306 progress
Fighter planes rebase forward, resistance negligible on the Alpha front
https://i.imgur.com/yY2dWet.png
Tanks blitz through Achelse Kluis while Marheeze had 1 defender too many for a same-turn amphibious capture. At 2 defenders only, Leende might fall next turn.
https://i.imgur.com/lKy1kWn.png
A cavalry charge took care of Shijndel, fighter planes paved the way for a flawless victory at Oirschot, and Eindhoven will be in serious jeopardy next turn.
https://i.imgur.com/fQPD58M.png
Ynnek was hoping for a space race but for that to happen, he would have needed to conquer Greece. The future is thus uncertain on that front, and he might take his chances attacking as his outlook for victory is dire. Now, we had no business winning this one at all, to be blunt. We couldn't have won alone. [ynnek] was less opportunistic and [cookiem] bungled his economy by not specializing cities enough. So that gave us a chance to win, but we couldn't have done it without a dependable ally. So I'm tempted to end it with a twist.
T307, Plot twist:
https://i.imgur.com/uaFOygk.png
Wow, he just gave all his cities to socralynnek! [eek] ProPain dropped from 2126 to 1457 points by that flip and socralynnek rose from 3651 to 4103.
You said "I'm tempted to end it with a twist", but I think that's now redundant. [rolleyes]
Yeah I had half a mind to conquer PP and then vassal to Ynnek. I guess Ynnek will takes his chances with artillery.
Meanwhile:
https://i.imgur.com/1wDiQsP.png
https://i.imgur.com/5zMR7wY.png
T310, 1880 AD
With [ynnek]'s half of [cookiem]'s lands, but mine still resisting:
https://i.imgur.com/ZxFFSwC.png
The Celts have left their last mark on the scoreboard
https://i.imgur.com/NRK77wT.png
Domination isn't a viable option
https://i.imgur.com/XBpk86a.png
The Khmer are ill-prepared for war, grasping at bombers and submarines
https://i.imgur.com/ohON5E9.png
By the time they have them, every city will have a fighter patrol and Manhattan might see some play
https://i.imgur.com/4DXG8IZ.png
T316, 1892AD
A TREACHEROUS DOUBLE-MOVE
https://i.imgur.com/wHWALB5.png
Amsterdam captured!
(Actually I offered him to open with one and do his worst, but hey, just couldn't resist the headline)
Marines on the other side of the ocean were just done with their beauty rest, and ready to strike back
https://i.imgur.com/aokxFH9.png
14 Tanks will make short work of the handful of defenders between Leende and Nuenen next turn, putting an end to the Celtic resistance
https://i.imgur.com/SuhuPaw.png
The siege on the Khmer core begins
https://i.imgur.com/NGUqUnQ.png
T320, https://i.imgur.com/sMlfcyB.png
https://i.imgur.com/F5GG7gK.png
[ynnek] keeps pressing the offense at Nijmegen, while we reinforce it with dark magics [meli]
https://i.imgur.com/EejwyBu.png
https://i.imgur.com/NK2KPy9.png
But the real sorceror bullshit is coming soon [nuke]
https://i.imgur.com/arKCgtR.png
A chaotic hodge-podge mess of mishandled boats moves threateningly SW
https://i.imgur.com/HWqLAqn.png
And we edge closer to victory
https://i.imgur.com/GRbfnu5.png
https://i.imgur.com/tNzZ6q4.png
https://i.imgur.com/Y6t4suL.png
Fin.
Thanks!
This being 2 in a row, if and when the next game goes up, I either would like to map it out OR demand a pangea so that y'all can team tag my sorry ass :D
Lt. Killer M
25-06-2020, 09:36
Congrats! :)
And many thanks for the detailed spoiler!
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