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Dell19
20-12-2004, 19:38
This is turn thread for PBEM played based on Rise of Rome scenario in C3C 1.22.

Players:
Rome - Dell19
Macedon - Beam (Formerly Jack Merchant)
Persia - Stapel
Carthage - ??? (At present Metalhead)

Egypt, Celts, Scyth, and Goth - AI

We are currently looking for a replacement player and if the replacement player is another CDZ poster then this will become the new active turn thread where battle reports are posted.

Metalhead has said he doesn't mind being replaced and after several occurances of delaying the game where there was a reason but this wasn't given until PMs were sent asking what had happened to the save. The new Carthagian player would take over after several turns with troops in Sicily but with the Romans owning the only city on the island.

The current rules forbid signing MAs or MPPs with the AI nations, no ship chaining, abandoning of capitals, unit jumping and possibly some others that I've forgotten. Hopefully someone will be willing to take other since Carthage are still in the game.

Beam
21-12-2004, 17:38
[bump]

Stapel
26-12-2004, 10:29
Well, as things look now, We will continue this game in january WITH Metalhead.

Dell19
20-01-2005, 23:40
Beam did you get the save?

Dell19
24-01-2005, 12:17
We either all need to post in this thread or set up the other turn counter thread since at the moment I have no idea where the save is. I sent it again to Beam's new address yesterday.

Stapel
30-01-2005, 11:15
I might very well have it. I will check tonight (and hopefully play).

Dell19
04-02-2005, 22:53
Looks like me and Matrix will have a bit of action this turn.

Dell19
07-02-2005, 00:33
I've asked Matrix to set up a turn tracker so that we can track the game from now on.

Stapel
07-02-2005, 11:17
It appears I had played it, but not sent it....

Sent to Matrix.

Dell19
07-02-2005, 13:06
I think that was the old turn. We should be on turn 20 or 250BC. I sent 255BC last which is after I had played turn 19.

Stapel
07-02-2005, 13:16
I have not yet received a 255BC save from Beam.

Dell19
12-02-2005, 13:39
Beam? I sent a PM a couple of days ago and the turn twice about 4 days ago.

Beam
13-02-2005, 17:08
Because I'm working in Paris the coming 2 months and have a lot of PBEMs going on I have to cut it a little. :( So I asked Dell today if he knew a replacement player for this game. Not planning to abandon other games as well, the Swimming Pool is the only other multi-human game I am in. Regular PBEMs will continue but slower.

Dell19
13-02-2005, 17:39
I'm thinking of asking Rcoutme when I see him online as a possible replacement.

Rcoutme
13-02-2005, 20:38
I will take the replacement slot. My email is Rcoutme at gmail dot com.

Beam
13-02-2005, 21:17
OK, I'll send you the sav together with an outline how the game has been moving. Thanks for taking this one!

Beam
13-02-2005, 21:38
Sav is send, enjoy!

Dell19
13-02-2005, 23:06
Could you update the turn tracker, Matrix? Thanks

Rcoutme
15-02-2005, 06:09
I played the game and sent it to Matt (Dell19) as I don't have any email addresses.

Stapel
15-02-2005, 07:22
My e-mail addres is:

stapel AT civ3duelzone.com

Easy huh?

Dell19
16-02-2005, 18:28
quote:The current rules forbid signing MAs or MPPs with the AI nations

Could Carthage replay the turn unless both the Celts and Goths really did decide to offer an MA on the same turn.

Stapel
25-02-2005, 12:28
Battle report turn 22, 245 BC.
Persian kill many Macedonians on hill near Hamadan.

-Persian army kills Macedonian Army, but goes from 12/12 to 3/12 :)
-3 catapults all fail to do some damage on hoplites :( .
-elite immortal kills 4/4 hoplite, but goes 4/5 :)
-elite immortal kills 4/4 hoplite, but goes 2/5 :)
-4/4 HC redlines elite HC :(
-4/4 HC kills elite HC, but goes 2/4 :)
-4/4 immortal kills itself on 3/3 hoplite. hoplite goes 2/3 :(
-4/4 HC kills 4/4 HC, but redlines itself :)
-4/4 HC kills 4/4 HC and promotes to 4/5 :)
-4/4 HC kills 4/4 HC, but goes 2/4 :)
-4/4 HC kills 4/4 HC, but goes 3/4 :)
-4/4 HC kills 4/4 HC, but redlines itself :)
-4/4 HC kills 4/4 HC, but goes 3/4 :)
-4/4 HC kills 4/4 HC, but goes 2/4 :)
-4/4 HC kills itself, but hurts Macedonian 4/4 HC towards 2/4 :(

All Persian Heavy Cavalry untis have attacked now. The slaughter will be taken over by immortals:

-4/4 immortal kills 4/4 HC, but goes 2/4 :)
-4/4 immortal kills itself, but hurts HC to 2/4 :(
-4/4 immortal kills 4/4 HC, but goes 2/4 :)
-4/4 goes 2/4, but the Macedonian HC cowardly retreats
-4/4 immortal kills 4/4 HC, but goes 1/4 :)
-4/4 immortal kills 4/4 HC, but goes 2/4 :)
-4/4 immortal kills itself, but hurts HC to 2/4 :(
-4/4 immortal kills 4/4 HC, but goes 2/4 :)
-4/4 immortal kills 4/4 HC, but goes 1/4 :)
-4/4 immortal kills 4/4 HC, it stays healthy :)
-Another immortals that stays healthy, unfortunately, the HC retreats
-4/4 immortal kills itself, HC goes 1/4 :(
-4/4 immortal kills itself, HC goes 2/4 :(
-3-3 immortal kills itself, no damage on HC :(

You won't hear me complain about results, but leaving those units on a hill next to my city, was what I had been hoping for. there is only a 50% defense, making it 3. Attacking with 5 and then with 4 really pays out :)

Matrix
26-02-2005, 00:51
quote:Originally posted by Dell19

quote:The current rules forbid signing MAs or MPPs with the AI nations

Could Carthage replay the turn unless both the Celts and Goths really did decide to offer an MA on the same turn.

Haven't read this before. But I did replay, as you know.

And at least now I have an excuse why I lost with Rome and seem to loose with Carthage. [rolleyes]

Stapel
26-02-2005, 00:53
so?
explain please!

Dell19
26-02-2005, 01:35
The turn that you played was uptodate :)

Matrix
26-02-2005, 17:35
I know Dell. With "haven't read this before" I meant I didn't know you posted it at this forum. Not important.
quote:Originally posted by Stapel

so?
explain please!
The Celts and Goths are close to Rome, but not to Carthage. Rome has two fronts half the time, when alliances with the AI are allowed.

Dell19
26-02-2005, 18:12
I asked Stapel and he was asking whether the file he had just played was up to date or whether he needed to replay. Its been an odd PBEM because the turn thread has moved forums and so far we have had 3 player changes.

Matrix
27-02-2005, 01:35
Well, if there are MA's with AI's it's the wrong, isn't it? But I thought you especially waited to play until I replayed, since I signed MA's.

Dell19
27-02-2005, 12:35
Yes since at the start of the PBEM we agreed to not sign those treaties unless the AI offered them.

Stapel
02-03-2005, 09:31
Where is the save anyway?

Turntracker sais Rcoutme.

Where is he?

Dell19
02-03-2005, 20:14
His email on MSN is rcoutme AT hotmail.com if you want to add him and ask him where the save is if you see him online. Feeling ill recently.

akots
02-03-2005, 20:48
It might be that another e-mail better be used which is rcoutme at gmail.com and this may be indeed the reason for lost save. But MSN is indeed what Dell posted.

Dell19
03-03-2005, 13:26
The turn tracker sends to the gmail address, just checked and resent.

Dell19
05-03-2005, 00:51
the turn should be moving again

Stapel
05-03-2005, 09:03
Got it!

Stapel
07-03-2005, 09:28
I played and sent last weekend. I forgot to add I killed one Macedonian hoplite.

Dell19
17-03-2005, 22:56
Anyone know where Stapel is lately?

Pastorius
17-03-2005, 23:09
Austria, or perhaps still in Munich

Dell19
17-03-2005, 23:49
ok thanks :)

Stapel
19-03-2005, 15:24
back!

Dell19
21-03-2005, 12:53
Hi again :)

Rcoutme sent the turn a few days ago so you should have it I think.

Stapel
21-03-2005, 15:32
yeah. Been busy. I will play soon!

Stapel
25-03-2005, 14:56
Rcoutme:

Battle reports would be nice :)

Stapel
27-03-2005, 10:18
I killed a 3/4 HC of Rcoutme's.

Stapel
29-03-2005, 08:38
BATTLE REPORTS PLEASE!!!!!!!!

Stapel
29-03-2005, 10:39
quote:Originally posted by Dell19


The current rules forbid signing MAs or MPPs with the AI nations.

Guess what.....

Pastorius
29-03-2005, 10:54
Update your spoilers you lazy slackers! [rant]

:D

Stapel
29-03-2005, 11:03
I might, I might....

Anyway:
I think we can continue, despite the Macedons dragging the Egyptians and the Scythians in to war with me.

Battle report:
In the northwest: Persian Immortal kills HC, goes 2/4
In the midwest: Persian HC kills wounded Macedonian HC, but goes 2/4

The Macedons have landed!

Battle of Antioch:
Persian HC kills Macedonian HC (2/4)
Persian HC kills Macedonian HC (2/4)
Persian HC kills Macedonian HC (4/4)
Persian HC kills Macedonian HC (2/4)
Persian HC kills Macedonian HC, promotes (5/5)
Persian HC kills Macedonian HC (4/4)

Now, I do feel lucky!
Yet, units with defense 2 are an easy prey!

Stapel
29-03-2005, 11:29
quote:Originally posted by Paalikles

Update your spoilers you lazy slackers! [rant]

:D

Done :)

Dell19
29-03-2005, 13:03
I've updated mine a little.

Stapel
03-04-2005, 09:21
Where's da save????

Dell19
03-04-2005, 12:37
With Rcoutme.

Stapel
04-04-2005, 08:32
Since he has 15 HCs in my lands, you'd expect some haste. Interesting turns are coming.

Stapel
04-04-2005, 12:45
The Macedon forces (a 4/4 sword, a 4/4 HC and two 3/3 HCs) south of Antioch have been defeated, without any losses for the Persians.

However, the main Macedon forces were north of Beirut. Thirteen Heavy Cavalries are lined up to take Beirut.
I can get 8 HCs in attack position. Three loose, five win. The Macedon forces now have five 4/4 HCs, one 3/4, one 2/4 and one 1/4 near Beirut. Beirut has 5 wounded HCs (3/4, 3/4, 3/5, 2/4, 1/4, iirc), and of course some more defense :) .

Rcoutme
04-04-2005, 13:29
Sorry about not posting before, but nobody told me there was a thread in which to post...
I did not know that asking AI for alliance was banned, I will refrain from this in the future...again, sorry.

I guess, since Matrix did not ask for a replay, we can sort of count it as a bonus for my having to take over from somebody who does not understand tactics...

Stapel
04-04-2005, 13:43
quote:Originally posted by Rcoutme

Sorry about not posting before, but nobody told me there was a thread in which to post...
I did not know that asking AI for alliance was banned, I will refrain from this in the future...again, sorry.

I guess, since Matrix did not ask for a replay, we can sort of count it as a bonus for my having to take over from somebody who does not understand tactics...


Well, different people, different tactics. When the game is over, you can read my spoiler and see what I think of yours ;) .

There is also a (non-written) rule you inform opponents of battle results. I always do so in this thread, but it's ok if you do so by mail.

Dell19
04-04-2005, 14:21
I've been emailing mine lately.

Rcoutme
04-04-2005, 21:15
The 1/4 HC died in a fruitless attack against Beriut. Total losses (including that one) are: Perisans 1 Numidian Mercenary (how did they get them, I thought those belonged to the Carthaginians...) and 1 HC. Macedonians: 3 HC and two more HC's redlined...

Stapel
04-04-2005, 22:54
quote:Originally posted by Rcoutme

The 1/4 HC died in a fruitless attack against Beriut. Total losses (including that one) are: Perisans 1 Numidian Mercenary (how did they get them, I thought those belonged to the Carthaginians...) and 1 HC. Macedonians: 3 HC and two more HC's redlined...


I think you need Ivory for Num mercs.

Dell19
05-04-2005, 00:26
yeah there is some in the far east. Shame I missed that in my other RoR game until now...

Stapel
05-04-2005, 07:35
All Macedon forces in Persian territories are killed.
I did cost me 1 elite immortal and 1 elite HC, though.

Rcoutme
05-05-2005, 00:45
I have played the turn. Sorry for the delay but I was convalescent for 5 days.

Stapel
05-05-2005, 10:58
I'll be back the 15th!

Stapel
23-05-2005, 09:40
Well, make that 23rd!

Will play tonight!

Stapel
26-05-2005, 19:22
Byzantium is a Persian city!

I lost 9 HCs and got 12 retreats (or so).

Stapel
05-06-2005, 11:02
Rcoutme?

Stapel
13-07-2005, 22:33
Killed 3 of Rcoutme's hoplites.

Matrix
25-08-2005, 11:55
I received something from the Turn Tracker, but it wasn't a savegame...

Stapel
25-08-2005, 15:27
Will send manually tonight!

Stapel
05-09-2005, 19:55
Took another city of Rcoutme's

I lost 7 HCs
I also crushed the puny force in the north, without losses (catapults are great).

Oh, and I got 2 leaders :D.
That may seem to be very lucky, but these are my first, after dozens of fruitless elite victories.

Matrix
05-09-2005, 23:04
In case you're wondering how Genua became Carthaginian, I took the classic Hannibal route. :D (A teeny bit too late perhaps...)

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Matrix/20059523337_PeakySeas01.jpg
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Stapel
06-09-2005, 07:21
Hey Matrix,

Not that things look good for you now, but such a move is always great!

Matrix
06-09-2005, 12:13
By the way, I destroyed a city while we said we wouldn't destroy cities. (Didn't we?) I forgot, sorry about that.

Dell19
06-09-2005, 13:49
I don't mind too much about the city. Was a bit annoyed when you suddenly decided to attack me with a huge force though. :)

Rcoutme
06-09-2005, 14:15
Well...the Persians are coming, the Persians are coming! They are also taking all my freaking cities...

It's kinda hard to fight a war when your opponent sends more army units than you have and can build in a turn (since each city is limited to one build).

I hope Stapel enjoys the cash he's getting.[cry]

Rcoutme
14-11-2005, 07:06
Dell really needs to consider updating his calendar (lol). 195 BC went by a long, long time ago...

Rcoutme
18-11-2005, 00:51
Well...looks like all the trash talking has ended. Hmm...that was the only enjoyable part about taking this doomed empire...I wonder what's in store for me next.

Dell19
23-11-2005, 12:06
Sometimes I forget to set the turn date.

Dell19
13-04-2006, 23:09
Currently waiting for Matrix to play the next turn.

Matrix
14-04-2006, 16:56
Are you? Oh damn, I hate being guilty of stalling a game. [xx(]

Dell19
14-04-2006, 17:24
Yeah it lists Stapel as the last person to send a save.

Dell19
14-07-2006, 17:20
Stapel do you have the save?