View Full Version : Killer vs Banzai II -- Finished --
This is my second match versus Killer.
There is no spoiler for the first match because I had no own forum.
To summarize: the game ended in turn 112 when Killers Horsemen sod faced my Samurai army and Samurai stack, and was destroyed.
A big part of my succes was an SGL to rush the Pyramids.
Now Killer can have his revenge as we switch sides.
This game is played on a small Pangea on Emperor with Killer controlling the Japs and I the Chinese.
SGL are off :)
The map is handmade by Kingreno! Thumbs up for the King! [goodjob]
My starting position:
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/20041219112738_01 Beijing.jpg
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Not bad... ;)
Game on!
Not bad indeed, Being will be a powerhouse!
We asked for at least one choke between us and what do we get? Lots of chokes! Cool!
Sometimes there are huts on the chokes, forcing me to pop them in order to advance... This resulted in some hut-fun:
Hut 1
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/20041219113527_12 First hut.jpg
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Hut 2
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/2004121911363_16 second hut.jpg
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Hut 3
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/20041219113637_20 third hut.jpg
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Hut 4
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/20041219113733_23 fourth hut.jpg
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Hut 5
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/2004121911384_46 fifth hut.jpg
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Thats 5 huts with barbarians!
There is a 6th hut nearby, but I will pop that (or the AI will) by building a city next to it! No more barbs!
Kingreno
19-12-2004, 12:16
Bad luck on the barbs man! Have you met anyone yet?
And could you post a minimap here?
I'm having fun with the AI too.
The Ottomans were met in turn 19.
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/20041219114855_17 otto.jpg
They were Bronze ahead, but I had nothing to offer.
In turn 30 however I discovered Alphabet. This was sold for Bronze and 10 gold.
The French were met in turn 35
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/2004121911531_35 Joan.jpg
Lets go grab that empty city!
Or not :(
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/2004121911540_36 Lyons.jpg
The French had The Wheel, but lacked Warrior Code and Potery.
They did not want to trade though :(.
However, two turns later Otto had The Wheel too.
Now Joan was listening to my trade proposal and sold me The Wheel + 10 gold for Pottery alone.
Good girl.
Unfortunately Otto was behaving like a bad boy!
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/2004121912753_43 Invasion.jpg
Hunting for barbarians you say? Yeah... right! [blink]
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/2004121912859_43 war with ottomans.jpg
I'm begin sneak attacked in turn 43!
Their conscript warrior attack Nanking and died to my warrior.
Stupid AI again... attacking units fortified on a hill.
Their spear however pillaged my wines!
Lucky me I just connected silks, so my cities are not in disorder.
Turn 46 was an important turn though.
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/20041219122526_46 before.jpg
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Two warriors can attack Beijing and a spear can pillage my second wines.
I have to get rid of them.
I have 3 archers. One in Beijing, one in Shanghai and one on the mountain at Nanking.
The spear on the wines can only be attacked accross the river, so that will be difficult.
If my archer from Shanghai fails, I'll have to use the mountain archer to hunt the (hopefully) wounded spear down and kill him.
So the plan is:
Archer from Beijing attacks warrior.
Mountain warrior attacks other warrior.
Archer from Shanghai attacks spear.
The Mountain archer is backup....
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/20041219123024_46 after.jpg
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[jump]Go China, go China, go China, GO![jump]
(I am missing a cheerleader smiley!)
Otto.. I'm going to get you!!
And maybe I can win the Philo race too...
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/2004121912348_47 minimap.jpg
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Banzai!
Great new from the Chinese empire!!
74 turns are played at quite a high speed.
The tech pace in this game is incredible.. at least for me :D
The French invented Iron Working in turn 49, which they trade to me along with 25 gold for Writing.
Two turns later Philosophy was research... and I Code of Laws for free! [dance]
Of course The Rebublic was next to research.
The Ottomans begged for peace in turn 52 and we swapped Iron and Writing in exchange for Mathematics and Horseback Riding.
Horseback was then sold to the French for Ceremonial Burial and some cash.
Two turns later the French researched Mysticism, which I recieved for Mathematics.
Moments later finally some hut luck!
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/20041223233311_56 hut 8 usefull.jpg
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Killer was met in turn 60 and we raced for a hut... he won and got gold, but I busted the camp!
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/20041223233449_61 Japan.jpg
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By that time he was quite some techs behind!
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/20041223233552_60 met Japan.jpg
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Polytheism was bought from the Ottomans for Code of Laws and Literature.
Mapmaking was provided by the French in turn 68 in exchange for Code of Laws and Philosphy.
Currency was "learned" in turn 69!
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/20041223233653_69 currency.jpg
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[groucho]
This put Killer even futher behind in tech:
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/20041223234651_74 trade screen.jpg
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Add Currency and Republic to that list, as that last one was researched in turn 74!!!
"Short term" plans are:
- Revolt to Republic
- Meet the Babylonians as they are scientific
- Get into the next era
- Help the Ottomans and Babylonians to the next era and trade for their techs (hopefully Monotheism and Feudalism)
- Research Chivalry
- Kill Killer.
Kuddos to Kingreno for making this a-maze-ing map!
It is strange to move a warrior west from your starting spot and meets the French while the other warrior that moved east runs off the minimap to appear at the far west again and.. meets a French warrior!
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/20041223234449_74 minimap.jpg
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Nice chokes huh!?
Banzai!
Very nice map it seems, and good going from your side. Very lucky with the hut techs tho, that is a major advantage. I bet Killer will go ranting about that when he reads this spoiler ;)
Wonder what your world looks like. Wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to show KR ROCKS! in caps :)
More great new from the Chinese empire!
"Short term" plans are:
- <s>Revolt to Republic</s>
- <s>Meet the Babylonians as they are scientific</s>
- <s>Get into the next era</s>
- <s>Help the Ottomans and Babylonians to the next era and trade for their techs (hopefully Monotheism and Feudalism)</s>
- <s>Research Chivalry</s>
- Kill Killer.
hehe.. Only one topic left om my wish list :)
The Ottomans and Babylonians both got Feudalism as free tech, so that was obtained by trading The Republic.
107 turns have been played now and I just discovered Chivalry.
Killer still lacks Monotheism and Feudalism, but he is beating up India and captured their capital. He will probably get a big discount when signing a peace treaty.
However I told him that India was paying me more than 30 gpt, which is true.
He does not like that, so maybe he decides to wipe them out! Fine with me :)
My small empire..
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/200515204738_107 Empire.jpg
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There are two more cities to the west to grab a lux.
I'm now building Riders, which Kingreno nicely renamed to 'Wrath of Sander', in my strongest cities Beijing, Shanghai, Nanking and Canton.
The cities Tsingtao, Tientsin, Xinjian and Hangchow will follow soon when the marketplaces are finished.
Now I have to use my gold to upgrade my horses. There is quite a stack at Tsingtao.
Expensive, but my economy is strong! 185 gpt and I'm not in a golden age yet!
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/200515205130_107 Minimap.jpg
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My elite horses are already moving towards Japan. They are moving through different chokes to find the best way to their land so my riders can hopefully arrive undetected.
Stay tuned!
Banzai!
Killer just made peace with India after capturing at least two more cities.
He got Monotheism and Feudalism in the deal.
That means he only lacks Chivalry.
The window of opportunity is suddenly a lot smaller, so Hangchow, Xinjian and Macao are changed from Market to "Wrath of Sander"
I need those riders fast! I think (hope) I can have a stack of 20 in 6 or 7 turns or so.
It will also take some turns to get near him.
If Killer has Chivalry by then I doubt he will have a lot of Samurai..
It is going to be close!
Rik Meleet
11-01-2005, 13:12
The best attribute of the Rider -extra movement- doesn't work well against Samurai. No retreat and Sams are 4 in defense. And the Samurai counterattack kicks some butt as well.
Why not assimilate France into your empire before they get muskets ?
Edit: Here are your Cheerleaders
http://67.18.37.17/2135/53/emo/cheer1.gif B http://67.18.37.17/2135/53/emo/cheer1.gif A http://67.18.37.17/2135/53/emo/cheer1.gif N http://67.18.37.17/2135/53/emo/cheer1.gif Z http://67.18.37.17/2135/53/emo/cheer1.gif A http://67.18.37.17/2135/53/emo/cheer1.gif I http://67.18.37.17/2135/53/emo/cheer1.gif
Thanks for the cheerleaders, Rik! I am going to need them!
Bad bad news from China this time...
As my riders almost reached the Japanse lands undetected, a "neutral" object was standing between them and my army:
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/2005117194326_fuck.JPG
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FUCK!
Finding another path is no option... so I attack the Ottoman warrior
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/2005117194415_attack.JPG
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And move my stack forward.. (22 riders)
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/200511719451_move.JPG
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Great.. another one!
Oh well.. now I have to fight the Ottomans and Japanese.
He would have allied them anyway.
Next turn.. invasion!
Please wish me good luck...
Banzai!
Kingreno
17-01-2005, 19:55
wow, 22 riders on the border! Any news on Japanese Samurai yet?
oh, and good luck!
Pastorius
17-01-2005, 19:59
Banzai, Banzai he is our man, if he cant do it, noone can [crazyeye] :D
Thanks!
He has them, but I don't know how many.
He is still fighting India, so maybe some of them are there.
It is good to know he is weak compared to me! :)
BANZAI!
(I always wanted to do that) :D
War on the Japanese has been declared...
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/2005117213451_seenomorecity.JPG
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The Japanese town "Seenomorecity" has been razed to the ground!
Killer is also in for some small surprises if he is not watching..
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/2005117213632_surprise.JPG
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A horseman here...
a warrior there...
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/banzai/200511721372_surprise2.JPG
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There are also 2 riders harassing Killers troops in India..
The Babylonians were allied for 15 gpt.
We can not ally more than one AI against each other, and the Ottomans are already fighting me. This makes the French Killers best hope, so I ally them against the Ottomans for only 7 gpt.
It will cost him!
Now lets wait for the counter attack!
Someone is in serious trouble...[charge]
Awesome news from the Chinese empire!
Victory!
[party]
The Japanese empire surrended to the superior number of Chinese troops in their territory!
Japan had 2 Samurai Armies [blink] ... in India! They were too far away to prevent destruction.
Thanks Killer for the game! I had a lot of fun in this one!
Thanks to Kingreno for making this map :)
Banzai!
Pastorius
19-01-2005, 19:05
Great. You kicked the warmonger's ass [woot]
Lt. Killer M
19-01-2005, 19:13
congrats, banzai! was a great game!
now, reading this thread I understand how you raced ahead in science like crazy while I was stripping my empire jsut to get along! darn huts! ;)
Kingreno
19-01-2005, 19:46
Congrats Banzai, good game and good spoiler![party]
Rik Meleet
19-01-2005, 20:59
The power of cheerleaders should neverbe underestimated. http://67.18.37.17/2135/53/emo/cheer3.gif
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