1v1 PBEM for a relative Newbie

[romeothemonk]

Hey guys, I am looking for a chance to play a 1v1 PBEM game with no AI versus a Human player.
I am kind of a Fly by the seat of my pants player, but regularly own Emporer, and do quite nicely in Demi-God. I realize that I might be asking for a beating here, but that is sometimes the only way to learn. [book]
Looking for an opponent, preferably not someone who can beat Sid epic games, for a nice epic 1v1 game. The only catch is no agricultural civs. why? [dunno]
The pace I am looking for is 1 to 2 turns per day. So who gets a chance to rough up the kind of new guy? [guns]
I will play for all I am worth though, plus I love playing with the smilies.[luke] [mwaha] [swordman]

[grahamiam]

hmm, i'm looking for a game with someone in the states. this could be an interesting matchup, bush junior ranger vs eastcoast liberal softie [lol] i'm not a pbem regular so your chances of winning should be pretty good.

probably tiny, pangea map with each of us having an AA UU? slug-o-rama, eh? i haven't played egypt since a gotm some time ago so that would be my choice. just hope the map maker doesn't make it a 3bil yr old jungle map :) interested?

[romeothemonk]

Sounds like a good deal to me. I was thinking of being the babylonians, so an ancient age slugfest maybe appropriate.
And Grahamiam, I tend to think of this as a Chemical engineer versus a Mechanical engineer. This rivalry is much more heated than something as simple as polotics.
I was thinking a tiny map in the shape of a dumbbell or even 2 continents with truly raging barbarians. We will let the ideas simmer or something. Post any ideas or suggestions. Lurkers too please.

[grahamiam]

why barbarians? so we can have a ton of elites?

i'd prefer pangea over continents. i very much enjoy AA warfare in C3C and i'd hate to put it off longer than needed :D

with the dumbell shape, it will be a race to see who can get to the otherside of the choke. i'm fine with that as long as the choke is not too narrow. we should at least have some chance of a flank :)

edit: other suggestions: SGL's off, SoZ removed or no ivory on map, demigod level (for tech research purposes and the barb uprising)

[Beam]

Don't forget to post a request in the MM forum once you've agreed the specs of the map and I'll make you a nice one. :)

[grahamiam]

thanks beam :)

romeo, do we have a set number of turns before warfare/invasions can start? maybe we can do something like the following: we cannot enter the other's borders for the 1st 50T (1750BC), units outside the borders (including settlers) are fair game.

[romeothemonk]

I like SGL's on, but the rule that an SGL cannot rush the pyramids.
Agree with DG.
I do not like restrictions on attacks. You can attack with your first warrior if you are so inclined. You can never attack if that is your cup of tea. Agree with the no ivory idea.
The barbs were just an idea i was kicking around, plus I want to see Humans deal with armies. I was thinking we could have 2-4 barb camps blocking the choke, thus making settling near there a dangerous proposal. I am not stuck on that idea however. If you don't want them, we can make them go away. I just don't want to see unescorted settlers, etc.

[grahamiam]

imho, SGL's are too luck related. but if you want them, I'm willing to try. and the "no attack" for x number of turns was a plagerized idea anyways, so I have no problem dumping it. just thought it would give us some room to establish ourselves a little before the city razing starts.
your barbs idea sound fine as it sounds like your looking for elite training and i'm all for that.
by "no ivory", i mean that the SoZ can never be built since we do not have the prerequisite resource. is that your understanding as well?

[romeothemonk]

My Ideas for rules:
1) I get a red colored civ, you get a blue colored civ. I think Beam can swap colors for us. Hehe, more political stuff.
2) No Ivory means no SoZ.
3) SGL's are allowed, but cannot be used to build the pyramids. All Prebuilds dedicated for the pyramids must be declared. Ditto with the Internet, U.N., and T.o.E.
4) War doesn't need to be declared, and likewise with peace. I doubt we will see RoP's. All victory types enabled, including wonder victory.
5) No VP scoring, no regicide.
6) Since neither of us is Expanionist, huts are ok.
7) Equivalent distances to luxuries for both players.
8) No Razing of great wonder bearing cities, They are GREAT wonders.
9) Barbs to Restless, both players to use the barbarian fix.
10) Attacks can begin at any time.
11) Starting barb camps are allowed.
12) No Amazon rain forest type geography.
13) Palace jump is legal.
14) Mapstat is legal.
15) Ship chaining is legal.
16) Nukes are legal. [nuke]
17) Scrollahead is legal.

Any problems? Any rules I should include?

[grahamiam]

blue is my 4yrs olds favorite color, so that's great [cool]

all else seems fine. mapstat must be latest revision (2.8.1 or later), otherwise you get unfair info not normally available in pbem. i don't car about the internet, UN, or ToE but if you really want to know that i'm building it, that's fine. why one would build the UN in a 1x1 with no AI is beyond me. actually, whoever is second must give wonder build info as it's normally announced by the game, but prebuild info is fine as well.

i'll go post a request for a map. if you get yahoo or MSN instant messenger, we can make fun of each other while playing :D

[grahamiam]

map request added. go ahead and add some thoughts if i missed something, romeo.

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