View Full Version : How Many Supporters You Got?
Melifluous
22-11-2004, 12:44
Fairly simple question, how many people pay you each and every year to watch you play?
ahem, us low division teams have less than 800 sups. I currently have 667 sups, and getting +16 every week.
Shabbaman
22-11-2004, 13:46
It's pretty hard to gain a lot of supporters right now. My league is pretty hard, so I lose about every other game. Once my supporters are happy, they're getting unhappy. In the last two seasons combined, I gained only 100 supporters.
Heh, I'm only at 331 supporters atm, getting +4/+8 every week atm... relegation really hit my original club of 500 hard.
Yup.. I got aronud 300 only :(
Hmmm, thought I had many: 720 supporters (many more than pp but still not enough to participate in meli's poll)
Melifluous
22-11-2004, 14:45
Oops my bad...
Its just that I'm in the lowest division in England and I've got 1170 supporters.
Also is there any relationship between no. of supporters and how many people turn up for a match?
Its just that I've recently expanded my stadium to 26700 and filled it in my first home match ;)
Melifluous
quote:Originally posted by Melifluous
Oops my bad...
Its just that I'm in the lowest division in England and I've got 1170 supporters.
Also is there any relationship between no. of supporters and how many people turn up for a match?
Its just that I've recently expanded my stadium to 26700 and filled it in my first home match ;)
Melifluous
[crazyeye] 1170 supporters, wow, I am increasing numbers for weeks but still far away from your 1170.
[tongue]There is a connection between your supporters and the number of people showing up, if you use hattrick organiser you can see the relationship in your matches. In general, the more supporters you have the more people will show up.
[EDIT] I've just increased my stadium to 25000 but I don't expect it to be full for the next matches, maybe if I promote to the 6th divisioin or if I stay in the cup for a longer period than 3 matches.
BTW if you change the poll I'll be happy to vote. ;)
Last time I checked it had just reached 700.
Melifluous
22-11-2004, 16:30
quote:Originally posted by Swingue
BTW if you change the poll I'll be happy to vote. ;)
Your wish is my command Noble Master!
Melifluous
Shabbaman
22-11-2004, 17:14
If you want to see the relationship between the number of supporters and the number of sold seats, play a little with an arenasizer. 27000 is even a bit on the low side for 1100 supporters. I've got 1100 and have just expanded to 33000 (which is optimal for 1200 supporters).
How many people show up also depends on the weather and on the mood of the supporters. I remember that I had either pouring rain or annoyed supporters in all my home matches in the first half of the previous season. That led to some serious financial problems...
Melifluous
22-11-2004, 17:26
Many thanks for that Shabby...
Will use the extra money from that Full Arena to expand that little bit more.
£128,000 pounds for a full Stadium and 30,000 plus from my ecstatic Sponsors ;)
Melifluous
There was a discussion about that on the Romanian conferences. It seems that the number of supporters is indirectly influenced by the division you're in. For Netherlands last division (IX) the top teams have 540 supporters while in England's last division (VI) the top teams have over 1700 supporters. The increase from a week to the other depends on the result last week, how happy your supporters are, what is your current number of supporters but also what division are you playing in.
Oh, and I have 1492 fans.
Melifluous
22-11-2004, 17:56
Ordered another 8500 seats. Will be ready for my next home match.
Have heard people say that price of expanding the Arena is going up so now is as good a time as any...
Melifluous
I have around 630 or 650 supporters and apparently stadium expansion is long overdue but I'm making good cash now (about + 30K/week on average without selling anyone) and don't want to go into debt to get the expansion. If cashflow continues, I'll have enough money to upgrade the arena close to the end of the season.
English_brit
23-11-2004, 02:11
I've got over 1400 supporters and a 45,000 stadium which I'm getting close to selling out. Looks like I'll need to upgrade it before the increased expansion costs come in. When are they being introduced Meli?
quote:originally posted by Hattrick
From season 25 (which starts late January 2005), the costs for expanding your arena will be doubled compared to today. In the season after that, it will increase even more. The reason for this change is that these prices have fallen behind while all other costs have gone up since season 1 when these prices were set.
Kingreno
23-11-2004, 07:43
801 puts me into the parameters of the poll. [party]
English_brit
23-11-2004, 23:58
lol Kingreno.
Thanks Yndy. :)
Bootstoots
25-11-2004, 17:29
I have 1349 supporters at the moment, and I'm still able to gain 8 per update. I've won every competetive game except my second round Cup match so far this season, so they've been joining fairly quickly.
English_brit
25-11-2004, 17:31
Nice. [crazyeye]
Melifluous
25-11-2004, 18:41
quote:Originally posted by Bootstoots
I've won every competetive game except my second round Cup match so far this season, so they've been joining fairly quickly.
Exactly the same as me!
Spooky huh?
Melifluous
English_brit
09-12-2004, 22:45
quote:originally posted by Hattrick
From season 25 (which starts late January 2005), the costs for expanding your arena will be doubled compared to today. In the season after that, it will increase even more. The reason for this change is that these prices have fallen behind while all other costs have gone up since season 1 when these prices were set.
Does that mean that just the 20k basic expansion fee to expand ur stadium is doubled or all the seats aswell are doubled?
Just reached 803! So now I can vote in Meli's original post
English_brit
03-01-2005, 20:23
lol
I have 432 supporters (decreesing), and an 16,000-Arena...
Shabbaman
10-01-2005, 10:08
Today I passed the 1200 mark!
Melifluous
10-01-2005, 11:31
And I am now up to 1281 supporters after this nice event :D
quote:10/01/2005 10 new supporters signed up and paid 200 £ in fees.
Never seen more than 8 join at once before [:p]
Melifluous
quote:1/10/2005 15 new supporters signed up and paid 450 US$ in fees.
I'm now at 740 and steadily growing even considering my pathetic performance in the league.
I'm now at 799 which still means that I wouldn't be able to vote in the original poll. :)
At 395 now [blush], but the good news is that today, 11 new supporters signed up, compared to 4 per time on all previous occassions... could that have to do something with the certainty of becoming league champion since yesterday, or perhaps with the fact that the Dutch competition will be expanded to 10 leagues starting next season, with the mods having decided to up the increase of supporters gained for all other, higher leagues a bit already?
Or should I just be very happy to gain 22 new supporters in a single week? [cool]
15 new supporters signed up for me which was suprising since I lost 6 supporters over the two games last week.
They have changed the supporters formula effective this morning. Clubs in lower leagues now receive higher increases which will continue until the new higher equilibrium levels are reached. Teams in top 2-3 leagues see little change but we're not in that case.
Some new teams in Romania complained of receiving only 100 supporters when their team was set up today. Either bug or we'll be considered lucky to have started with 500. Also dutch league to be expanded to 10 divisions, seems there's a lot of demand there.
By the way, I reached 1600 supporters today [coool]:D[cool]
100 supporters seems to be very low. The starting stadium of 7000 would actually be too large. It would also have some very serious long term effects in that those new teams will struggle to ever catch up with teams that joined half a season ago. I wonder if England will ever get a VII league.
Shabbaman
21-02-2005, 12:50
Today I passed the 1300 mark!
Melifluous
21-02-2005, 12:59
Congrats!
Despite me supporters being furious with me I got one more supporter sign up today!
Am now on 1445!
[party]
Melifluous
931, hopefully I will break the 1000 mark reasonably soon.
English_brit
22-02-2005, 04:08
1645 atm.
Melifluous
03-03-2005, 11:37
Personally I think they've broken the supporters this season.
Not that I'm complaining.
I've not won a league match all season and only won 1 cup match and my supporters are therefore irritated.
And yet I'm still getting 3 new supporters sign up at each and every opportunity.
It would appear that promoting out of the VIth only to go back next year wont be so bad after all...
Currently on 1452 supporters [goodjob]
Melifluous
They seem to have made it much much easier to gain supporters and virtually impossible to lose them. I gained 27 this week after winning 2-1, 2-1 and now have 972. I might just get to a 1000 this time next week.
English_brit
03-03-2005, 21:04
27 supporters in a weeks well good. Wish I was getting that. :(
I gained 26 this week and I think I'm around 960 now, so very similar to Dell.
Indeed the new supporter rules work out very well for lower league teams
English_brit
04-03-2005, 08:55
Yep. I won my games and only got half as many. :(
I'm having 932 supporters now after winning 4 league matches. May be it is to compensate for increased arena upgrades? But maximal increase seems to be 13-14 twice per week and no more can be gained apparently.
Kingreno
04-03-2005, 11:43
On 1021 now and getting between 14 and 26 per week. Indeed it seems that it is very hard to loose them. I guess they did it because of the increased Arena costs.
I have 1002 sups now! Passed the 1000 mark finally.
Playing at home this weekend, I'm no. 1 and I play against no. 3, really curious how many spectators are gonna show up.
Shabbaman
18-03-2005, 09:21
quote:Originally posted by Kingreno
I guess they did it because of the increased Arena costs.
No, they changed it because new teams start with 100 supporters. But I think it's good, I disliked how the supporters ran away after a loss. Two seasons ago I finished fourth in a strong league, but it had netted me 0 supporters.
EDIT:
I just checked, and atm I got 1337 supporters [lol]
quote:Originally posted by Kingreno
On 1021 now and getting between 14 and 26 per week. Indeed it seems that it is very hard to loose them. I guess they did it because of the increased Arena costs.
I lost every single game except one and didn't loose 1 supporter.
Hell I even won a lot of them
I have a kilobyte of fans...
Melifluous
04-04-2005, 12:23
OK Now I'm certain that supporters are broken [:p]
My fans have been murderous for about 3 weeks and I've been losing 3 per time.
But my latest 1-2 loss at home cheered my fans to furious [:p]
Now I've just had 1 supporter sign up!
IMHO that's just wrong.
Melifluous
Finally I would have been able to post in Meli's original poll then, as I passed the 800 supps mark the previous week... and the 10 percent increase immediately almost puts me past 900, as I went from 807 to 888 supporters due to promotion, which has lead me to believe that apparently one of my supps must have a peg leg or something... [lol]
Supporter Club: 1354 members
Playing in VI has some benefits.
I have 1171 sups now, my more than satisfying season in VIth has done wonders.
Keeping pace with sups is sponsors. I have had 1000 euro increase a week from sponsors last few week it's slowing a bit (around € 750,= week increase) Got me on 58000 euro from sponsors a week. Waaaay better than 2 season ago in 8th :D
Melifluous
16-05-2005, 23:40
Down to 1332 after demotion [fdevil]
Melifluous
just past the 1300 mark, I have 1305 now. My Arena is sized 42K and only sold out once last season, I could do with a bit more sups. But not complaining, they're growing steadily. My sponsor are at 68K or something around that.
Woot! Breached the 1k mark in the supporters club today!
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Kemal/200562085946_supclub.jpg
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Sponsor income is only(?) 51K though (high on life now, as on pic), and the increase in both sponsor income and new supporters signing up has not been noticeable, despite me hiring 2 extra spokespersons last week (from 4 to 6)...
Are those 2 guys just wasted money, or does it take a little more time for their effects to become really visible?
I think I have the record....
Unfortunately it's the record low 198 :(
Melifluous
20-06-2005, 20:20
Damn they really hammered the starting number of supporters for new users in the recent rules changes.
On the bright side it should be quicker for you to gain in supporters now. :)
Melifluous
6/20/2005 15 new supporters signed up and paid 450 US$ in fees
Melifluous
20-06-2005, 21:02
See thats what I'm talking about.
Also Mistfit, if you're bored and wanna chat, me other MSN address is stevebroad2002<at>hotmail.com
I hope your intelligent enough to replace the right bit [:P]
Melifluous
Supporter Club: 1431 members
Although I may lose the next 6 games in a row so its probably going to start going down. Got 24 this week which was nice.
1281 and adding at about 21-23/week. Need to expand the arena probably soon. It's 80% full even on a rainy day as it was last Sunday.
quote:Sponsors: satisfied
Supporter Club: 232 members
Supporters: delirious
Do they pay more money when delirious?
Is there benefit and harm done when they are pissed off at you versus happy?
Money is same, more spectators come to matches and more supporters join. Whereas if they are unhappy, it has the opposite effect.
I've got 1656 supporters. Is it a lot? We need a new poll.
Supporters Club: 1577 members
Seems like you have a lot since you were about 200 supporters behind me last time you posted.
Well, I've got extra 10% supporters for promotion. And it might be very tough for me to stay in Div V. I would be probably able to fight for 5th/6th places (qualifiers) and may even have some slim chance for 4th.
Does HT take off 10% supporters when you relegate to lower division as well?
Yeah you lose 10% if you go down.
I've got 1386 supporters and growing slowly
I now have 334. I expect to go over 550 this season.
I'm now at 1394, but from now on things won't be all sunshine for Snaken, so I expect to stay at about 1400 for some time, maybe growing slowly.
after last seasons 10% relegation drop I;m now back at 1250 and gaining about 16 a week
Darth Pugwash
03-10-2005, 21:51
Currently 942, with afew more joining each week. I am hoping to break 1000 this season.
Kingreno
04-10-2005, 20:29
1460 and climbing slowly.
665 and gaining slowly :D
1355 members, and I'm in divVI
English_brit
14-10-2005, 19:32
2211 and I'm in Division IV.2 in England.
bed_head7
14-10-2005, 21:31
A little under 500, and I have been gaining 15-19/update, or 30-34/week, for the last four or five weeks. At what point will that rate begin to fall off, assuming I keep winning? I am in div VI in USA.
Shabbaman
14-10-2005, 21:42
I passed the 1700 mark last week.
English_brit
15-10-2005, 04:37
It's hard to say at what point it will fall off as the changes to the formula which decide how many fans teams attract only changed recently. My guess it it won't really slow down for you for quite a while as you're a newer team, probably not until you're well above 1000 fans.
Ask someone who is winning most of their games but who has more fans already and see how many new fans they are attracting and you should get a good idea at what point it will start to slow down.
There's probably some sites out there with information on this just I don't know of any. Sorry I can't be of any more help.
A bit more then 1100 for me. And a stadium to support them of only 13.000. Hmmm...
bed_head7
17-10-2005, 10:56
quote:Originally posted by English_brit
It's hard to say at what point it will fall off as the changes to the formula which decide how many fans teams attract only changed recently. My guess it it won't really slow down for you for quite a while as you're a newer team, probably not until you're well above 1000 fans.
Ask someone who is winning most of their games but who has more fans already and see how many new fans they are attracting and you should get a good idea at what point it will start to slow down.
There's probably some sites out there with information on this just I don't know of any. Sorry I can't be of any more help.
Thanks for what help you could provide. I found it rather helpful, even if it didn't seem like all that much to you.
Darth Pugwash
24-10-2005, 12:57
Just passed the 1000 mark today, up to 1003 supporters :D
Shabbaman
19-12-2005, 14:35
Passed the 1800 mark!
Sponsors: high on life
Supporters Club: 909 members
Supporters: high on life
14 new supporters signed up and paid 420 US$ in fees.
This has been pretty average for me.
1709 but I will lose 170.9 for relegating. Not sure if it rounds up or down.
1555 supps atm, increases at about 8 a week.
I just went to 504, get about 14 a week. Hopefully next season I 'll go over 800.
socralynnek
20-12-2005, 14:39
Had 1425 but went to 1382 today, because I changed the club name.
Shabbaman
16-03-2006, 09:36
Historic day for Shabba FC: 1900 supporters.
Melifluous
16-03-2006, 15:35
I am still 42 short of 1900, congrats Shabba [goodjob]
[meli]
1692 so I've nearly recovered all the supporters that I lost from relegation and I will get an additional 10%
I'm at 1723, and still use a 33K stadium... [ponder]
I'll be upgrading soon I suppose.
Kingreno
17-03-2006, 11:11
1645 and climbing. slowly. My new 35k stadium is almost done, and I will improve to 45K next year. Training defending has the disadvantage of never having a a large homevic, though I guess the same is true for not conceding many goals. I gain 2-4 sups a week.
I've 551 supporters, and every week I get 2x 6 new supporters.
@KR: though you do sometimes get large away vics (when playing in the FC De Snaken Arena... [sad]).
Kingreno
17-03-2006, 15:22
There is indeed an exception for everything.:D
I have 738 supporters and gaining 14 a week.
bed_head7
17-03-2006, 20:44
Around 1050, getting 25/week still.
Less that 200 but i have only just started
Darth Pugwash
12-04-2006, 18:22
1432 with 8 or 9 new supporters a week.
Shabbaman
17-04-2006, 10:59
Yesterday I got some new supporters. Now I have 2139.
Supporters Club: 1402 members
The league reformation has been done, and now I've 705 supporters (=+20%)
And as you could read in another topic, i've 200k on the bank.
Should i spend the money to invest in my stadium (it has 12k seats right now).
Normally i just the formula 20xNrSupporters, this was 20x580=11600, but right now it is 14100. Should I expand my stadium, if yes, with how many seats?
memorable day voor de burchtheren 1006 supporters!
Jumped slightly over 2000 here, now at 2014.
Supporters Club: 1515 members
Tubby Rower
22-06-2006, 20:24
I think that I'm doing pretty good to have 471 with a little over a half a season under my belt
Now 863 supporters and every week 18 new supporters (avg 19,75). They are "high on live!" :-)
This is my second full season.. This season it increased by 283 supporters (incl. two promotion bonus)
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