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Shabbaman
09-04-2003, 11:03
Is this the substitute for the stair dismount game?
MODERATOR ACTION - GO SHABBAMAN!!! - Melifluous
Shabbaman
14-04-2003, 10:46
The ladder works like this: each civilization starts with 1000 points. The winner gets 10% of the loser's points (and, besides the humiliation of the loss, the loser also loses 10% of his score).
Please note that unplayed civs aren't ranked.
You can find the ladder here: Ladder Pages (http://www.civ3duelzone.com/ladder/framesmain.html)
Shabba
You can add Killer (france) vs JM (china) . Killer won.
Kinda amazes me China lost. Lost with china myself so maybe they're not what they're cracked up to be ....
Shabbaman
12-06-2003, 13:35
Hey, statistics never lie ;)
I've unlocked the topic, maybe there's some need for discussion. Good idea? Just updated the civladder. Why isn't the killer/jm game listed under 'played games'? I'll edit that...
EDIT: JM=jack, D'OH!!!
I just completed all finished games in the right order Shabba.
post no. 500 [party]
I never, ever would have guessed France would do so well and Egypt, China and Carthage would rate so low. Only 13 games do far but still amazing.
Hmm, you're missing england and india from the list ;)
Shabbaman
12-06-2003, 15:45
Well, I only listed civs that people actually play with. Did you notice that France rules the world? Strange...
digger760
12-06-2003, 16:43
anarres playing the english beat jack merchant playing the indians...its in the finishes games thread. I would'nt worry to much about it. i have put all the results in the database...it did'nt miss a thing...myself and propain are aiming to have part of it on by next week.
Shabbaman
13-06-2003, 08:55
Okay... I see I missed that. Strange. I did put it in the spreadsheet, but apparently forgot to link it through to the rankings.
Lt. Killer M
14-06-2003, 13:37
won against meli (china) with Rome, lost against Erik (Carthage) with RUssia
Melifluous
14-06-2003, 21:46
Killer (Ottomans) vs anarres (Vikings) - anarres wins!!
Posted by Melifluous
Shabbaman
18-06-2003, 12:30
That should go into the 'finished games'... I've updated the civrankings, the chinese have lost points again!
digger760
18-06-2003, 13:06
home come there are decimal points. In my database i am rounding to the nearest whole number
Shabbaman
18-06-2003, 13:08
I could do that, but I didn't. That's why ;)
Shabbaman
23-06-2003, 15:00
Now I did. The chinese didn't get any better through it though...
Shabbaman
14-08-2003, 14:04
Changes at the top of the ladder. Persia has risen to the top thanks to Aggie's win over nightfall, and Cartouche Bee has lead the English to the runner up spot thanks to a win over jack m.
digger760
14-08-2003, 14:25
just out of interest...
A question to ProPain, does this ladder compare well to the one i chucked into the database?
hmm, this could be generated from the existing results, like the ladder is.
Shabbaman
14-08-2003, 15:17
In fact, it is generated from existing results.
hehe [crazyeye]
I meant like the ladder page that generates the results from day 1 onwards - or do you do that seperately and then copy the results in to the first post?
Shabbaman
14-08-2003, 15:41
Ah. The ladder is calculated in a sophisticated spreadsheet, I've to add the results manually. That sucks big time of course, but besides writing the initial spreadsheet it's hardly time consuming. I could make a internetpage for it, but copy paste into the top post here is much easier than that.
digger760
14-08-2003, 16:03
the database that ProPain uses updates the civ rankings as well...weather i got it right or not i am not sure...
I am waitng for ProPain to comment.
Civilisation Points
Persians........1210
French..........1200
English.........1199
Carthaginians...1190
Iroquois........1100
Arabs...........1099
Mongols.........1090
Vikings.........1089
Romans..........1089
Germans.........1000
Aztecs..........1000
Zulus...........1000
Greeks...........999
Japanese.........999
Americans........990
Ottomans.........913
Celts............900
Babylonians......900
Spanish..........900
Indians..........900
Russians.........891
Koreans..........810
Egyptians........810
Chinese..........722
This is the one produced by the database. I see some differences, not quite sure where the originate from. I'll write the simple view queries this weekend so we all can see civ ladder, player ladder and running games. I'm still wrestling with the scripts that will add data to the database....
Shabbaman
15-08-2003, 22:17
Woohoo!
Added a CivLadder query. Press link and enjoy.
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/ladder/qryCivLadder.asp
Adjusted to look of the query to match the other ones
smalltalk
24-08-2003, 20:49
Is there a weighting factor for good and bad players?
A civ should get less points, if a good player wins with it.
It should get more points, if a bad player (like me) wins with it!
So you want to make a civ ladder adjusted for player ladder too! [lol] That's becoming a bit to complicated for my taste.
smalltalk
27-08-2003, 21:17
With a second thought [mischief], I guess it's even more complicated. :D
A player should get less points, when he wins with a strong civ, and more when he wins with a weak civ.
So we would need to compare
Strength(Player1) * Strength(Civ1) vs. Strength(Player2) * Strength(Civ2)
which would give us a set of linear equations.
We also would have to account for the fact, that some Civs are stronger on certain maps and weaker on others, and therefore we'd have to introduce a map-correction-factor into strength(CivX).
[scratch] [crazyeye] [xx(]
(Not to be taken seriously. Just kidding.;))
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