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ProPain
08-04-2003, 17:13
Game results


01.Melifluous (America) vs Col (Celts)........... - Melifluous Wins
02.anarres (Greece) vs ERIKK (America)........... - anarres Wins
03.anarres (China) vs ERIKK (Persia)..............- anarres Wins
04.prettyvacant (Japan) vs digger760 (China)......- prettyvacant Winsicon_paperclip.gif Digger vs PrettyVacant savegame (http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/ProPain/20034299726_Digger vs PrettyVacant- game 1,610BC.SAV)
05.Killer (Ottoman) vs Shabbaman (Korea)......... - Killer Wins
0.WF444 vs CivGeneral...................... - Game ended by admins, no ladder consequences
0.Pretty Vacant vs Pleb.................... - Game ended by admins, no ladder consequences
06.Aggie (egypt) vs Erikk (persia)............... - Erik wins (16/4)
07.ProPain (china) vs Kemal (arabia)............. - Kemal wins (22/4)
08.JackMerchant (russia) vs Aggie(babylonia)..... - JackMerchant wins (5/5)
09.Killer (france) vs JackMerchant (china)....... - Killer wins (2/6)
10.DrA (persia) vs JackMerchant (otto's)......... - DrA wins (4/6)
11.anarres (egypt) vs ProPain (france)........... - ProPain wins (7/6)
12.anarres (england) vs JackMerchant (india)..... - anarres wins (8/6)
13.Dogboy (iroquois) vs Maverick (carthage)...... - Dogboy wins (9/6)
14.Killer (Russia) vs ERIKK (carthage)........... - ERIKK wins (13/6)
15.Killer (roman) vs Melifluous (china).......... - Killer wins (14/6)
16.Killer (Ottoman) vs Anarres (viking).......... - Anarres wins (14/6)
17.Killer (korea) vs Dr.A.(Mongols).............. - Dr.A wins (20/6)
18.Aggie (ottoman) vs Killer (Japan)............. - Aggie wins (20/6)
19.Aggie (china) vs Erikk (Cathage).............. - ERIKK wins (21/6)
20.ERIKK (japan) vs Anarres (Arabs).............. - Anarres wins (22/6)
21.Killer (spanish)vs PRoPain (Japanese)......... - ProPain wins (2/7)
22.Aggie (persia) vs Nightfall (Greece).......... - Aggie wins (23/7)
23.JackMerchant (russia) vs CB (England)......... - CB wins (30/7)
24.ProPain (Aztecs) vs Erikk (Carthage).......... - ProPain wins (13/8)
25.Aggie (egypt) vs OPG (china).................. - Aggie wins (15/8)
26.Aggie (France) vs JackMerchant (russia)....... - Aggie wins (16/8)
27.JackMerchant (Germans) vs Skyfish (Ottomans).. - Skyfish wins (18/8)
28.Kemal (russia) vs anarres (America)........... - Kemal wins (18/8)
29.Skyfish (Aztecs) vs Kemal (Egypt)............. - Kemal wins (21/8)
30.Cartouche Bee (Persia) vs anarres (Rome)...... - CB wins (23/8)
31.JackMerchant (France) vs Puwen (Carthage)..... - Puwen wins (23/8)
32.anarres (Arabia) vs Erik (Japan).............. - anarres wins (24/8)
33.JackMerchant (Rome) vs NIghfa11 (Germans)..... - JackMerchant wins (26/8)
34. Nightfa11 (Rome) vs OPD (Indians)............ - OPD wins (DATE MISSING - this will be set to 27/8)
35. Skyfish (France) vs ERIKK (India)............ - Skyfish wins (31/8)
36. Aggie (greece) vs ERIKK (Korea).............. - ERIKK wins (7/9)
37. Skyfish (chinese) vs Killer (ottomans)....... - Skyfish wins (9/9)
38. Puwen (Egypt) vs Plux (Carthage)............. - Puwen wins (9/9)
39. Col (US) vs Killer (china)................... - Killer wins (10/9)
40. Digger (Babylonia) vs Tunerica (Persia)...... - Digger wins (11/9)
41. Aggie (Babylon) vs Wildfire (Ottomans)....... - Aggie wins (13/9)
42. JackMerchant (Spain) vs Aggie (Germany)...... - Aggie wins (15/9)
43. Eldakkar (england) vs Aggie (Germany)........ - Eldakkar wins (16/9)
ladder updated untill here

ProPain
08-04-2003, 17:13
Running games


propain (iroquois) vs Skyfish (Persia)
propain (china) vs KingReno (zulu)
propain (ottomans) vs Kemal (french)
Aggie (Mongols)- Nightfa11 (Vikings) remark: Mongols have berserk as UU!
Aggie (Persia) - Cartouche Bee) (Carthage)
Aggie (France) - Stapel (Carthage)
Aggie (Japan) - Hotrod (Arabs)
Aggie (India) - Sir Eric (Japan)
Aggie (Egypt) - Taurendil (Persia)
Aggie (China) - Plux (Arabia)
Aggie (France) - Killer (Spain)
JM (Celts) vs Killer (Spain)
JM (Romans) vs Nightfall (Germans)
JM (Iroquis) vs Stapel (Persians)
JM (Arabia) vs Taurendil (Egypt)
Dr Alimentado (Germans) vs JM (Japanese)
Ehecatl Atzin (Mongols) vs JM )Korea)
Col (China) vs ERIKK (Mongols)
ERIKK (Germans) vs JM (Greeks)
ERIKK (Arabs) vs Killer (India)
ERIKK (Celts) vs Stapel (Egypt)
ERIKK (Japan) vs YNDY (Persia)
anarres (Mongols) vs DrA (Spain)
anarres (China) vs Gothmog (Persia)
anarres (Arabia) vs Matrix (Vikings)
anarres (Ottomans) vs Yndy (Carthage)
anarres (Russia) vs JM (Rome)
Lt. Killer M. (iro) vs Shabbaman (arabs)
CB (Rome) - Plux (Greece)
JackMerchant (zulu) vs Killer (Rome)(Used to be JM vs Mel)
Aggie (Aztecs) - Dr Alimentado

Games entered in database untill here

These games cant be enteres because I lack info

Strider (???) - CivGeneral (??)

updated 26/9 09:15 GMT

Melifluous
09-06-2003, 21:22
Well I received this in the mail from Dogboy and just had to post it.

I understand that this windswept corner of the forum little has been kept up to date, I hope that this post will start a growing settlement in the desert.

Enjoy

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ADMIN PASSWORD = pompeii

This is a 1v1 ladder game between myself (DogBoy) and Maverick. I don¡¦t know what kind of player Maverick is so I don¡¦t know what to expect. These are the game parameters:
Map: small
Barbs: sedentary or roaming, not sure
Level: monarch
Players: DogBoy and Maverick. I went Random and Maverick picked Carthaginians or Greece.
AI: 5 random
All victory conditions enabled
Accelerated production: OFF
Land mass: random
1.21f
Melifluous made the map for us. When I started the game I found the following.

Insert start file here

DogBoy: Iroquois (expansionist and religious with a good early UU)
AI: Zulu (militaristic and expansionist with a decent extremely early UU)
AI: German (militaristic and scientific with an awesome late UU)
AI: Roman (militaristic and commercial with a good early UU)
Maverick: Carthaginians (commercial and industrious with a very good early UU)
AI: Mongols (militaristic and expansionist with a good semi-early UU)
AI: Korean (commercial and scientific with a controversial later on UU)

I start scouting right away and build two more scouts for exploration and notice some pretty decent lands. I wasn¡¦t sure if I should build just one scout or two since I figured 7 civs on a small map would mean I¡¦m undoubtedly close to somebody. I hope my gambit pays off. I scout west, north, and south. My research goes to max bronze working to build spearmen for defense. I though about teching straight to Horseback Riding to get my mounted warriors, but I need some defense first. My capitol builds a granary to pump out settlers very fast.

Insert 3700BC goody hut gave mysticism

3700BC goody hut gave Mysticism.

Insert 3550BC goody hut gave warrior

3550BC goody hut gave me a warrior.

3450BC Meet Germany and Korea. Germany has Bronze Working and Warrior Code and will only give me Bronze Working in a trade. I¡¦m getting it next turn so I don¡¦t want to trade with them. Korea has Bronze Working and Alphabet and will only give me Bronze Working. Since I¡¦m going to get Bronze Working next turn, I don¡¦t want to trade with them.

3400BC Researched Bronze Working. Started on The Wheel at max. I think Germany has either met somebody and traded with them or he got a goody hut because he has 20 gold. That would indicated he sold one tech for another tech and 10 gold.

3350BC Gave Germany Ceremonial Burial for Warrior Code and 7 gold. Sweet, I have horses right next to my capitol!

3100BC Meet Rome. Because they have the Alphabet, Korea will now decide to do some business with me. I give Korea Ceremonial Burial and Pottery for Alphabet and 10 gold. I then give Germany Alphabet and Mysticism for Masonry and 13 gold. Definitely not the best of trades, but I want to keep all the AIs happy with me. I figured they would demand the techs from me soon anyway.

2850BC Goody hut gave me maps of the region. Pretty worthless, except it revealed another goody hut. Met Zululand this turn. It looks like they are on an island beside Germany. I must reveal more of the land to be sure.

2800BC Goody hut gave me 25 gold.

Insert 2750BC I think Germany will attack

2750BC Goody hut gave me 25 gold. On this turn Germany moved an archer into my lands. I told them to withdraw but I wasn¡¦t given the withdraw or declare war option. I have a feeling then next time I get the save file I will be at war with Germany.

2700BC I was right. I opened the save file and I¡¦m at war with Germany. Their archer died to my spearmen. Hopefully that is the only combat unit I will see this war.

2670BC Traded Ceremonial Burial to Zululand for 24 gold. Then sold Ceremonial Burial to Rome for 14 gold. I also met Maverick this turn. As of right now he¡¦s three techs behind me. I have Bronze Working, Warrior Code, and Ceremonial Burial and he doesn¡¦t. I think he must be right up next to Zululand which makes me happy ƒº

2470BC Traded Rome Mysticism for Iron Working. Sweet, I have iron just south of my capitol. Swordsmen will do nicely against the Germans if they want to stay at war with me for long.

2390BC After Germany impaled two of their archers on me they decided on peace. They gave me a worker, the only thing they have. I love the stupidity of the AI at early wars.

2110BC Settled Niagara Falls, my second city! My wandering spearman also noticed that Germany no longer has two cities and my spearman has found some ruins. I also see a Mongol warrior just outside Berlin. My guess is Germany is playing the stupid AI this game.

2070BC Settled Grand River

1950BC Zululand just discovered writing. I trade them Communications with Germany and 115 gold for Writing and a worker. I then trade Korea Communications with the Mongols for 39 gold. Then I trade Zulu Communications with the Mongols for 18 gold. Then I trade Rome Communications with Germany for 19 gold. Then I trade Korea Communications with Germany for 4 gold. Then I began research on Mathematics at max science. I¡¦m hoping I can get it and trade with the AIs.

1870BC Goody hut gave 25 gold.

1830BC Traded Rome Writing for Horseback Riding and 7 gold. It¡¦s not the best trade, but a lot of people, to include Maverick have both techs, so I traded for it while I could.

1650BC Settled Allegheny.

1600BC Goody hut gave maps of the region.

1550BC Discovered Mathematics. Started Map Making at max research.

1525BC Settled Cattaraugus. Rome has moved an elite warrior and a regular warrior near my borders. I think they might attack soon.

1500BC Sure enough, the Romans attacked. They lost an elite warrior and I lost nothing. Their second warrior fortified itself in my land. I wonder if they will send anything else my way.]

1425BC Traded Korea Horseback Riding and 60 gold for a worker.

1375BC Traded Korea Mathematics for their WM, Philosophy, Map Making, 22 gold. Then I traded the Zulu Mathematics for their WM and 90 gold. Started research on Currency on max.

1250BC Peace with Rome. They gave me their WM and 20 gold which is all they had. Settled Oil Springs.

1125BC Gave the Zulu 115 gold for a worker.

1050BC Settled Tonawanda.

1000BC Traded the Zulu my WM and 65 gold for a worker. Then I gave Rome my WM for their WM and 45 gold. Then I gave Korea my WM and 75 gold for Code of Laws. Then I gave the Mongols my WM for their WM and 16 gold. Then the Zulu gave me 6 gold for my updated WM. Rome gave me 2 gold my updated WM.

950BC Researched Currency and started work on Construction.

875BC Maverick must have researched Polytheism, because almost everybody has it and Maverick is now caught up in tech (he was 3 techs behind me). So I trade Rome Currency for Polytheism and 130 gold. Then I trade the Zulu Currency for a worker and 18 gold. Then I trade Korea Currency for 99 gold.

710BC Settled Mauch Chunk

670BC Settled St. Regis

610BC Researched Construction. Started work on Feuadlism. Got reports of a massive uprising near Tonawanda which is my city close to the Germans. Hopefully the barbarians will harass them instead of me.

510AD Settled Centralia. The Mongols have moved two archers into my land threatening one of my cities. They are polite with me, but I know they are waiting for me to demand they leave so they can attack me. As soon as I get another swordsmen into that city I will demand they leave and destroy their archers after they declare war.

350BC Maverick offered my Literature so I offered him Construction in return.

250BC Settled Akwesasne

190BC Researched Feudalism. Started work on The Republic.

130BC Maverick offered my The Republic. I offered him 120 gold in return. I hope he takes it because it would have cost me 180 gold to continue researching it at my current pace. On my next turn I see that Maverick made the trade. I started work on Engineering. I revolted and drew my 1 turn of anarchy.

30BC Declared war on Germany. Captured the city of Hamburg and Berlin using my mounted warriors. I didn¡¦t lose anything and killed two spearmen. This kicked off my golden age.

110AD Settled Tyendenaga

130AD Researched Engineering. Started work on Invention. Destroyed Germany

insert destroyed Germany

170AD Declared war on Rome. I want some of their land with dyes, wines, and furs. Captured the city of Antium.

280AD Somewhere in here I captured Rome, don¡¦t remember what year it was. I noticed Maverick is also at war with Rome. Researched Invention this turn and notice everybody else has it! Started work on Gunpowder.

340AD Destroyed Rome.

350AD Declared war on the Zulu. I don¡¦t really want to fight them, I just want one city with luxuries.

360AD The Mongols declared war on me when I told them to leave me land.

380AD Researched Gunpowder and started work on Chemistry. I also completed my forbidden palace in Niagara Falls. It¡¦s right next to my capitol, but it will be a good place if I jump my capitol later on. Bought a worker from Korea for 105 gold.

420AD Peace with the Zulu. I got what I wanted which is the city of Ngome and its gems. They gave me 16 gold which is all they had.

520AD Researched Chemistry. Started work on Metallurgy.

530AD Made peace with the Mongols. They gave me Monotheism and I gave them 10 gold.

540AD Researched Metallurgy. Started work on Military Tradition.

570AD Built Leonard¡¦s Workshop.

610AD Researched Military Tradition. Started work on Theology. My plan is to upgrade my few mounted warriors into cavalry and attack Maverick. He doesn¡¦t have Gunpowder yet so hopefully I can put a serious hurting on him.

650AD Researched Theology. Started work on Education. I will attack Maverick in a few turns.

Insert 660AD before the war

Insert 660AD before attacking

660AD Maverick sent me this e-mail when he saw one of my cavalry. What the?!? How on earth have you managed to get cavalry so early? I'm
nowhere near that on the tech tree, and neither is anyone else!

I attack Maverick with my cavalry. I capture two cities and raze another one. I don¡¦t lose a single unit and I kill 4 Numidian Mercenary and 1 Medieval Infantry. Before I attacked my military advisor said compared to them I have an average military. Now my advisor says I have a strong military.

Insert 680AD split mavericks land in two

680AD Capture Leptis Minor. Now I have split Maverick¡¦s land in two. It will be easier to destroy his southern lands.

690AD Researched Education. Started work on Astronomy.

700AD Captured Russadir. Also destroyed a stack of 3 veteran Medieval Infantry that had moved next to Oea without losing a single unit. Maverick sent me an e-mail telling me he tried to unite the world against me but they all wanted 20gpt each and he can¡¦t afford it. I know he is in his golden age now because one of his Numidian Mercenaries killed one of my cavalry. I don¡¦t think his golden age will help him too much.

Insert 710AD during the war

710AD Captured Carthago Novo.

720AD Captured Mandalgovi. The Mongols are now at war with Maverick. I didn¡¦t ask them, guess they smelled fresh blood. However, Maverick got the Zulu to declare war on me. So I established an embassy with Korea and gave them Dyes, Spices, and Education to declare war on the Zulu. Then I gave Korea horses so they could build knights in exchange for Ivory. I don¡¦t think I will have too much trouble with the Zulu now.

730AD Allied with the Mongols to fight Maverick. Since they were already at war with Maverick, and they paid me 30 gold to ally against Maverick, I thought it was smart. That way Maverick can¡¦t make peace with them and then pay them to fight me. I¡¦m really surprised Maverick hasn¡¦t just conceded yet. He has no way to stop my cavalry, he has no saltpeter even when he does get Gunpowder so he can¡¦t get muskets. He told me via e-mail he would fight to the last man.

740AD Researched Astronomy. Started work on Physics. Maverick now has knights.

770AD Got a great leader from an elite cavalry. I also captured the city of Utica. That was a tough city and I lost several cavalry capturing it. I used my leader to rush Sistine¡¦s Chapel. I don¡¦t even have a single cathedral! I didn¡¦t want to make an army because I don¡¦t really need an army right now, nothing Maverick has can stop my cavalry.

780AD Captured Hadrumetum

790AD Captured Theveste

Insert 800AD during the war

800AD Researched Physics. Started work on Theory of Gravity. I captured Carthage this turn. It was defended by three Numidian Mercenaries. I didn¡¦t lose a single unit. Maverick¡¦s capitol jumped to Rusicade, which is right next to Carthage. That might be my next target!

810AD Captured Leptis Magna.

820AD Captured Hippo.

830AD Captured Rusicade, then Cadiz, then Sabratha on the same turn. I notice Macerick has a galley. I sure hope he doesn¡¦t play hide the settler.

840AD Captured the Zulu city of Tugela.

Insert 850AD during the war

860AD Captured Nora, Maverick¡¦s last city. Either he has a city that nobody knows about, or he has a settler on a ship floating around. I saw a galley of his a few turns ago so I have sent out a caravel with 2 cavalry and a medieval infantry. Hopefully I find him soon because this game is over. I also capture the Zulu capitol of Zimbabwe with the Great Wall. There were 8 workers in that city also!

Insert 880AD great leader

880AD Captured the Zulu capitol of Ulundi and got The Great Library. I also got a great leader which I used to build an army. Captured the Zulu city of Isandhlwana.

I get the save and this is the message Maverick sends me: Ahh... crap. Typical, I land my one settler and it gets killed by
barbarians. Oh well, looks like you won that!!

Good game!



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ProPain
12-06-2003, 12:54
I've talked to Digger and we're gonna put up the database as far as it's done. This means it will be able to view online, but we have to edit it localy and upload as long as we havent finished all scripts.

However we now need a complete list of COMPLETED games and the correct order in which they finished. I've analysed the list that's in the 1st post and I;mmissing 2 games. One won by anarres and one won by JackMerchant. COuld you both post which game that is and where it should be in the finished game order. Everyone else please check if
- your games are in this post correctly.
- played civ has been noted. IF not please post civ's played in your game.


Thanks a lot

PP

anarres
12-06-2003, 13:03
I won against jack 2 days after resigning against ProPain. (This monday I think).

Aggie
12-06-2003, 13:07
I lost against Jack quite a few weeks ago. I don't know the exact date of my loss...

ProPain
12-06-2003, 13:18
thanks Aggie, looked up the date in the spoiler (5/5)\

We're complete! [party]

ProPain
22-06-2003, 12:22
It's time to get running games into the database. This is quite a job with the current running games. To get this done orderly I'm gonna ask you people to send me your running games in batches. The first 'batch' will be Killer because he's got the most games running. When I've got his games updated I'll ask some other players to send their games.

So Killer could you post your running games in this thread or email them to me. The rest of you : just sit tight;)

dharms
27-06-2003, 02:01
Please can someone play me a pbem 1vs1?
I registered and reminded that I registered.

Email me at:
dharms@snet.net

thx.
Dave (Thumpper)

Aggie
27-06-2003, 07:06
@dharms: Mailed you .....

ProPain
18-08-2003, 16:46
I'm Up to date with the finished games and the queries for ladder and civ ladder. Running games is next. I already have received an email from killer with all his running games, so that will cover a big part, but definately not all. My question to you:

Please post all RUNNING games that you have where you're the player that comes up FIRST in the alphabet.

Example:
ProPain vs KingReno : Kingreno comes before Propain in the alphabet, so he'll post the game.

Please include Playernames and Civs chosen.

Thanks PP

digger760
18-08-2003, 17:10
digger760 (babylon) vs Tunerica (Persia)
digger760 (russia) vs Melifluous (Iroquos)

Skyfish
18-08-2003, 17:55
Scratch that !

[:o)]

yndy
18-08-2003, 18:22
Thanks ProPain. I owe you one ;). My real name starts with 'V' so I benefited of that in real life as well :)

jack merchant
18-08-2003, 18:22
I have conceded my game as Germans vs Skyfish (Ottomans). Skyfish outexpanded me on all levels, and would have gotten to Sipahi while I would have needed to buy iron for knights. It wouldn't have been pretty [tank].

Congratulations Skyfish !

anarres
18-08-2003, 20:10
I conceded against Kemal tonight. A decent stack of Elite Knights appeared next to my undefended core cities....

ProPain
18-08-2003, 20:24
@JM: You're dropping down that ladder at lightning speed. Find yourself a noob quickly before you drop below 2K (j/k)
@anarres: That Kemal is a dangerous guy! Plz include civ played next time to accomodate your ladder admins.

ProPain
19-08-2003, 10:20
BUMP : I NEED YOUR RUNNING GAMES!!!!!

Please post em/email em people, because I dont have the time to browse all fora!!

Aggie
19-08-2003, 10:37
1. Aggie (Germany) - Jack Merchant (Spain)
2. Aggie (Mongols)- Nightfa11 (Vikings) remark: Mongols have berserk as UU!
3. Aggie (Greeks) - ERIKK (Korea)
4. Aggie (Persia) - Cartouche Bee) (Carthage)
5. Aggie (Babylon) - Wildfire (Ottomans)
6. Aggie (Ottomans) - Moonsinger (China)
7. Aggie (Aztecs) - Dr Alimentado (hmmm, which civ did he have??)
8. Aggie (France) - Stapel (Carthage)
9. Aggie (Japan) - Hotrod (Arabs)
10. Aggie (Germany) - Eldakkar (England)
11. Aggie (India) - Sir Eric (Japan)
12. Aggie (Egypt) - Taurendil (Persia)

I hope that I didn't forget a game [:o]

Skyfish
19-08-2003, 11:45
Nice !
Now we need anarres to psot his games :D

jack merchant
19-08-2003, 13:31
Running games where I'm alphabetically first:

JM (Celts) vs Killer (Spain)
JM (Romans) vs Nightfall (Germans)
JM (French) vs Puwen (Carthaginians)
JM (Iroquis) vs Stapel (Persians)
JM (Arabia) vs Taurendil (Egypt)

and just in case others are lazy (hey, it can happen !)

Dr Alimentado (Germans) vs JM (Japanese)
Ehecatl Atzin (Mongols) vs JM )Korea)
ERIKK (Germans) vs JM (Greeks)
And vs Aggie of course, but he posted already :).

I'm also playing Cartouche Bee, but we decided not to play that one for the ladder as the start position was heavily in my favour.

ProPain
19-08-2003, 13:37
Added the games posted so far INCLUDING JM's games that he put in when others would be lazy and my own.

PLEASE CHECK 2ND POST BEFORE POSTING A GAME!!!

anarres
19-08-2003, 14:15
my running games:

anarres (Rome) vs CB (Persia)
anarres (Mongols) vs DrA (Spain)
anarres (Arabia) vs ERIKK (Japan)
anarres (China) vs Gothmog (Persia)
anarres (Arabia) vs Matrix (Vikings)
anarres (Japan) vs Mel (China)
anarres (Ottomans) vs Yndy (Carthage)

Aggie
20-08-2003, 08:27
Cartouche Bee and I decided to quit our game. The map was too unbalanced.

Issues we had:
- Totally diferent landmass which was a bit unballancing
- I had no coal and Cartouche Bee had to lend me it. As a result we had to adapt our plans
- Cartouche Bee had no rubber, which I probably had plenty. But without Replaceable Parts I wasn't able to give it to him.

ERIKK
20-08-2003, 09:28
My games:


updated 20/08/03 sorted on start date

Closed PBEM's
#01 vs. ANARRES : start 29/12/02 - last turn 176 18/01/03 Lost
me - America
ANARRES - Greece
Level - Chieftain (bug)

#02 vs. ANARRES : start 19/01/03 - last turn 276 20/03/03 Lost
me - Persia
ANARRES - China
level - Deity with chieftain happiness (bug)

#03 vs. AGGIE : start 13/03/03 - last turn 259 16/04/03 Won
me - Persia
AGGIE - Egypt
level - Emperor

#04 vs. KILLER : start 11/04/03 - last turn 192 13/06/03 Won
me - Carthago
KILLER - Russia
level - Emperor

#06 vs. AGGIE : start 17/04/03 - last turn 253 21/06/03 Won
me - Carthago
AGGIE - China
level - Deity Easy

#11 vs. ANARRES : start 15/06/03 - last turn 046 22/06/03 Lost
me - Japan
ANARRES - Arabs
level - Deity (straight)

#05 vs. PROPAIN : start 16/04/03 - last turn 095? 15?/08/03 Lost
me - Carthago
PROPAIN - Aztecs
level - Emperor

Active PBEM's
#07 vs. SKYFISH : start 29/05/03
me - India
SKYFISH - France
level - Deity Easy

#08 vs. COL : start 11/06/03
me - Mongols
COL - China
level - Emperor

#09 vs. KILLER : start 14/06/03
me - Arabs
KILLER - India
level - Deity Easy

#10 vs. MEL : start 14/06/03
me - Rome
MEL - French
level - Monarch

#12 vs. ANARRES : start 23/06/03
me - Japan
ANARRES - Arabs
level - Deity (straight)

#13 vs. JACK : start 02/08/03
me - Germany
JACK - Greece
level - Deity Easy

#14 vs. STAPEL : start 03/08/03
me - Celts
STAPEL - Egypt
level - Deity Easy

#15 vs. YNDY : start 07/08/03
me - Japan
YNDY - Persia
level - Deity Easy

#16 vs. AGGIE : start 10/08/03
me - Korea
AGGIE - Greece
level - Deity Easy

Shabbaman
20-08-2003, 10:45
Just the one v.s. Killer atm, shabba-killer rematch where I'm losing once again.

jack merchant
20-08-2003, 14:04
as an addendum to my earlier post:

anarres (Russia) vs JM (Rome)

Skyfish
21-08-2003, 11:57
It was always an impossible task but I have lost my game vs Kemal :(

This game was mired with bad choices starting with letting Kemal choose Egypt and me trying out something I have never done before (was Aztecs). Good idea but not against such a player !

Some people have off-days I had an "off-game" and he was very fast in expanding and searching I was already way, way behind !

Congrats on a great game Kemal ! [thumbsup]

anarres
21-08-2003, 12:23
[cry] [cry] [cry] [cry] [cry] [cry] [cry] [cry] [cry] [cry] [cry] [cry] [cry] [cry] [cry]

Oh well, at least people can't say I fix the ladder now... [sad]

Cartouche Bee
23-08-2003, 17:26
August 23 2003.

Anarres has decided to concede the game to me on turn 247. I was Persia and he was Rome.

jack merchant
23-08-2003, 18:51
In my rapid race to the bottom, I have now been forced to concede my game vs puwen too (23-8). I was France, he was Carthage.

ERIKK
24-08-2003, 20:03
anarres (Arabia) totally whipes out the Japanese (erikk) in 247 turns... Nothing left but burning Japenese cities on the Pangea standard map [eek]

anarres
24-08-2003, 20:33
Shit! I didn't post my loss to kemal - it was on the 18th at 8pm GMT.

Kemal was Russia, I was America.

ProPain
25-08-2003, 09:44
You shouldnt drink so much anarres. You posted yor loss against kemal in this thread on the 18th itself and the ladder is also updated with that game. :D

Skyfish
25-08-2003, 10:22
Oh yeah, he was on G&Ts the whole week-end :D

ProPain
25-08-2003, 12:20
The comp repairman called, he'll be in tomorrow instead of today. So ladder update also tomorrow.

Plux
25-08-2003, 14:06
Just for the record, I've got games going against Puwen (me=Carthage,P=Egypt), Cartouche Bee (me=Greece, CB=Rome) and Aggie (me=Arabia, A=China), and I'm trailing in score in all of them :)

Gothmog
25-08-2003, 15:56
I have two running games:

Anarres (China) vs Gothmog (Persia)

Skyfish (France) vs Gothmog (America)

Puwen
25-08-2003, 16:23
Running games: The one Plux reported 2 posts above and:
CB (Greece) vs Puwen (China)

DrAlimentado
25-08-2003, 18:42
Running games:

(Spain) vs Anarres(Mongols)

(Arabs) vs Meli(America)

(Germany) vs Jack(Japan)

(Japan) vs Aggie(Aztecs)

Nightfa11
26-08-2003, 23:26
I just conceded against Jack Merchant. We both played fairly well, but I lost 4 pop to disease before I could get a settler out and that set the tone for the rest of the game.

Nightfa11
26-08-2003, 23:42
Running games:

(Rome) vs. OPD(Indians)-Finished OPD Won
(Vikings) vs. Aggie(Viking Clone Civ-Mongols)
Waiting for Map (Bab clone civ) vs Jack Merchant (Bab Clone Civ) culture victory only

ProPain
28-08-2003, 14:58
quote:Originally posted by Nightfa11

I just conceded against Jack Merchant. We both played fairly well, but I lost 4 pop to disease before I could get a settler out and that set the tone for the rest of the game.


Your poor ladder admin cant do anything with this post. Why?

- NO CIVS PLAYED INCLUDED!!!!

I checked both your fora and couldnt find a spoiler. (Did that by exception because it's too time consuming to do for all results)

It would be appreciated if everybody would also email their results to:

civ3ladder@cqp.nl

That would make my life so much easier.

PP

Aggie
28-08-2003, 15:20
quote:Originally posted by ProPain

quote:Originally posted by Nightfa11

I just conceded against Jack Merchant. We both played fairly well, but I lost 4 pop to disease before I could get a settler out and that set the tone for the rest of the game.

Your poor ladder admin cant do anything with this post. Why?

- NO CIVS PLAYED!!!!

I checked both your fora and couldnt find a spoiler. (Did that by exception because it's too time consuming to do for all spoilers)

I just happen to know the mapmaker of this. Since this may slow down the ladder update:

Jack was the Romans and Nightfa11 the Germans

PS. Next time you receive a proper mail form my results pp ;)

ProPain
28-08-2003, 15:34
Aggie, you're too fast!! I already updated without this game. Will do that today however.

We have a new ladder leader: Kemal.

Congratulations Kemal!

Skyfish
31-08-2003, 06:43
Game won by Skyfish on Aug 30th
Skyfish = France
Erikk = India

email sent

Aggie
01-09-2003, 08:16
New ladder game:

Killer (Spain) vs Aggie (France).
Monarch level, no AI, heavily tweaked civs (amphibious attack for more units, UU for both is berserk)

email sent

Aggie
07-09-2003, 18:15
I conceded my game vs ERIKK. I was the Greeks and ERIKK the Koreans, easy deity level. I also sent an e-mail.

My game vs Moonsinger is cancelled.

ProPain
08-09-2003, 08:56
Will update everything once my comp is up an running again .

Puwen
10-09-2003, 17:57
Me (Egypt) vs Plux (Cartage)

Win for me and Egypt, Plux Conceded at turn 178.

Lt. Killer M
12-09-2003, 09:01
PP, two additions to results:

Skyfish beats me with the Chinese vs. my Ottos,
col concedes with the US against my Chinese!

anarres
12-09-2003, 11:12
Wow - a couple of wins for China. About time too!

Lt. Killer M
12-09-2003, 11:19
yeah, them Riders are too powerfull......

the col game had nothing to do with China though, we were both strapped for land, hit by disease (col lost 4 settlers essentially [eek]), and I happened to survive the onlsaught and turn the AIs around......

Strider
12-09-2003, 22:51
CivGeneral and I are playing a game.

anarres
12-09-2003, 23:23
Welcome Strider! :)

Aggie
13-09-2003, 00:32
I won the game vs Wildfire today. I was Babylon and he was the Ottomans.

jack merchant
15-09-2003, 16:46
I conceded my game vs Aggie today - Aggie was the Germans, I was the Spanish.

Aggie
16-09-2003, 19:56
Today I conceded my game vs Eldakkar. He played as the English and I was Germany, in a straight deity game.

ProPain
19-09-2003, 14:35
Updates finished games, running games and ladder pages.

If you miss your game and/or can fill the gaps on the games that have incomplete info: Please post and/or mail !!!!

digger760
19-09-2003, 15:17
New game:

puwen (ottomans) vs digger760 (china)

started about 2 weeks ago

ProPain
20-09-2003, 09:54
Will enter your game later today digger. Added new query. You can now see all running games, lay-out is still crappy but will work on that this week-end.

DrAlimentado
20-09-2003, 16:13
DrA's Running games:

me(Spain) vs Anarres(Mongols)-already on list

me(Arabs) vs Meli(America)-CANCELLED

me(Germany) vs Jack(Japan)-already on list

me(Japan) vs Aggie(Aztecs)-you claim no info but I posted this before ;)

me(Aztecs) vs SF(Zulu) - new entry

me(Iroquois) vs Killer(Arabs) - new entry

ProPain
21-09-2003, 17:32
Added finished games to ladder pages and cleaned up the lay-out a bit.

Will update games after dinner tonite.

PP

Aggie
22-09-2003, 17:06
Due to map problems we had to cancel our berserk clash. :( I was not able to build or upgrade to berserk once in the Golden Age.

Nightfa11 was Vikings and me Mongols with a berserk as UU.

anarres
22-09-2003, 17:10
Wow, that sucks!

Skyfish
23-09-2003, 14:57
OK just to precise, and even though I am lower in the alphabet, I have 2 running games not yet reported :
Anarres (Korea) vs Skyfish (Egypt)
Gothmog (America) vs Skyfish (French)

Thanks ;)

ProPain
26-09-2003, 09:02
updated again

I'm away untill monday so you can all look up your missing running games and have me swamped on monday night!!


Please look up your running games people.

Aggie
05-10-2003, 20:22
I won the PBEM vs Killer today. We played a 1 vs 1, with modded civs. Archers, Swordsmen and Medieval Infantry were amphibious. We also had the berserk as UU. The berserk didn't come into play though. I was France and Killer was Spain.

ProPain
07-10-2003, 10:35
Killer: you finished a game against JM before this one iirc. Could you please repost that result because I need to enter that before this one.

Lt. Killer M
07-10-2003, 10:41
PP that was the one we wanted to semi-draw, but since you vetoed that idea he wins.
I gave you all the details on MSN (I don#t remember exatcly what civs and so on atm)

I also won against Shabba (at least he never sends a turn and called playing on useless): him arabi, me Iroquese. that was after jack game and before aggie game.

ProPain
07-10-2003, 11:39
okies killer, I know we talked about it one MSN but wasnt sure if you maybe reconsidered because of the no go on semidraw. I'll update ladder today

jack merchant
09-10-2003, 14:10
Dr Alimentado (Germans) has resigned his game against me (Japanese) 08/10/03. An invasion force of 40 cavs & samurai was, thankfully, enough.

Skyfish
09-10-2003, 14:23
[goodjob]
Thats a very nice victory against the # on 5 the ladder.

By the way I heard that Cartouche Bee has quit all of his current PBEM with no intention to return ? Anybody know more about this ?

jack merchant
09-10-2003, 14:59
Hehe - stop the presses, Jack's won a game :D.

Cartouche Bee got a new job I think and is very busy, so it's all a matter of priorities there.

Skyfish
09-10-2003, 15:26
So his (CB) games are just "on hold" ?

jack merchant
09-10-2003, 18:10
No, they're cancelled.

Aggie
10-10-2003, 17:43
Taurendil and me decided to end our ladder game. Taurendil was not able to find the time to continue. I was Egypt, Taurendil was Persia.

E-mail sent as well

ProPain
11-10-2003, 00:06
So did Taurendil concede or did you guys quit the game without consequences?

And another result: Your ladder admin gave up to skyfish and his raging hordes. [cry]

Aggie
11-10-2003, 08:33
I could probably persuade Taurendil to concede. But I didn't want to ask that. I basically asked him to end it because he didn't send any turns for a long time.

ProPain
11-10-2003, 12:31
Aggie: I'll just remove your challenge from the running games then

Aggie
11-10-2003, 12:46
That's OK. I didn't know exactly what the ladder rules say about it, that why I left it to you to decide ;)

Aggie
17-10-2003, 09:18
Any insight on when the ladder will be updated?

ProPain
17-10-2003, 10:36
tricky question. :) I promise I'll do it today.

ProPain
17-10-2003, 11:18
It's updated everyone. Go and check the dramatic changes in the top 10. Kemal easily retains his no1 position, but you beloved ladder admin drops and skyfish continues his rise and now takes 2nd position.

Kemal
17-10-2003, 11:35
Hmm, doesn't look that easily to me, Skyfish only 15 points behind...

As I see only one of my games is credited as running atm, here are two other ladder games I'm playing atm:

Kemal (Babylon) vs ERIKK (Rome)
and
Kemal (Japan) vs Killer (Arabs), using the rider as UU.

Aggie
17-10-2003, 11:55
Thanks PP! One thing though: the Aggie - Taurendil match is also finished.

EDIT: Jack Merchant managed to rise in the ladder and someone else took over the last place [eek]

ProPain
17-10-2003, 12:41
aggie: I need to remove that match manually. Will look at that this weekend.

And of course: congratulations Jack Merchant!!!! Now you passed on the red lantern, I'd say onwards to top 10 where you belong.

DrAlimentado
19-10-2003, 13:41
DrA (worthless shitty iroquois) concedes to killer (lucky bastard arabs) and continues his plummet down the ladder...

[cry]

Kemal
22-10-2003, 09:47
Today Killer conceded his game against me, facing endless hordes of Carthaginian mercenaries rampaging through his Arabian lands.

I was playing Japan, while he played Arabia.

Lt. Killer M
22-10-2003, 09:53
Sir Erics Chinese lost agains thte AIs, while my Egytians triumph. This goes jsut BEFORE the kemal game (1 post aboce) and AFTER the DrA game (2 posts above).

anarres
22-10-2003, 12:07
And also I conceded to DrA in our game yesterday:

DrA: Spain
me: Mongols
date: 21st October

Aggie
23-10-2003, 08:22
Plux conceded against me.

Aggie: Chinese
Plux: Arabs, with the Chinese traits and Arabian UU
date: 22nd october

mail sent.

Aggie
24-10-2003, 08:34
We cancelled the Hotrod - Aggie game, because the map was unbalanced. More info about that here: http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=648

Hotrod was Arbia
I was Japan

Mail sent as well

Skyfish
24-10-2003, 08:37
Aggie is rising up the ladder big time !

ProPain
24-10-2003, 09:34
After my desastruous (read: long) workoday yesterday, I'll run an update today.

Aggie
27-10-2003, 12:46
Sir Eric just conceded in our game. Sir Eric was Japan and Aggie was India.

E-mail sent as well.

ProPain
28-10-2003, 10:19
Updated the ladder, we have a new number 2: AGGIE!!! congratulations Aggie. I'd say that's a good way to start your holiday.

Also Aggie get the ladder admin reward for being the ONLY one to mail his results. Pls follow his example. This will make my life easier untill web entry is possible.

I'd like to thank Digger for once again improving the database, all new features work like a charm!

And a last note : There are now 56 finished games for the ladder, I think that's quite a lot, keep up the good gaming guys!

Aggie
28-10-2003, 11:27
Thanks for the award :D

I now have only two games running (not 5): vs Stapel and vs DrA.

ProPain
28-10-2003, 15:12
I still have to remove 2 games that you cancelled. Have to consult Digger first, I'm not sure I can just delete em without messing up the database.

BUt that still means theres a running game that's not accounted for. You know what game that is?

[edit] It's the CB game I missed. I'll fix that too.

digger760
28-10-2003, 15:52
There is a "remove challenge" button in the same dialog that allows you to set a winner. "Remove challenge" sets the winner to "none" in the challenge table and updates the players "running games" record. There is no change to players or civ scores. You wont mess anything up and it has no consequences to the ladder.

ProPain
28-10-2003, 21:05
I feel veeery stupid for not having seen that. Thanx digger.

Shabbaman
29-10-2003, 14:03
I conceded to Killer. Fun game, but I couldn't overcome my neighboring ai, very little productive cities. That SUCKS.

[shabba] [worship] [estwing]

EDIT: I see that PP already processed this [thumbsup]

Aggie
02-11-2003, 00:29
I won my game vs Stapel today. It was very lucky, but it counts. Sorry Stapel.

I was France and Stapel Carthage.

Mail sent.

Skyfish
02-11-2003, 18:15
Dude !
That late victory means Aggie goes on holiday as number 1 on the ladder [eek]
Time to move our asses while he is away Kemal ;)

anarres
03-11-2003, 22:27
I resigned against Sky just now. Congrats to Sky!

Mail sent.

ProPain
04-11-2003, 21:56
ok, will update thursday when back in the office.

Plux
05-11-2003, 13:53
Killer just resigned against me. My little pointy poke to test his strength was too much for him. First ladder win, Hurrah [party]

I was india, he was France

ProPain
14-11-2003, 22:06
updated the ladder.

Aggie is our new leader [worship]

Lt. Killer M
17-11-2003, 09:58
stapel conceded his game against me

stapel = french
Killer = Carthage


not much to say - we totally misjudged the AI development. his beachhead town flipped with the SOD....

Stapel
17-11-2003, 10:00
Bah! Stupid flips!

jack merchant
25-11-2003, 19:09
I'm afraid I have to report two losses [blush2]

I conceded against anarres somewhere around 17/11
me as Romans, Anarres as Russians

and

I conceded against ERIKK today
me as Greeks vs Erik's Germans.

Congrats to both the winners !

ProPain
28-11-2003, 09:20
Ladder updated!

ERIKK
28-11-2003, 20:49
Another finished game:

Kemal (Babylon) defeates ERIKK (Rome).


Congrats to Kemal!

Eldakkar
29-11-2003, 15:38
This day Stapel conceded against me. He was playing France, I was playing Egypt

Kingreno
04-12-2003, 16:36
My Indian Elephants defeated Killers Spaniards today.

Stapel
08-12-2003, 17:41
ERIKK surrendered to me.

ERIKK
08-12-2003, 20:44
quote:Originally posted by Stapel

ERIKK surrendered to me.
That is Stapel (Egypt) defeats ERIKK (Celts)! :)

ProPain
11-12-2003, 22:51
Ladder update due tomorrow. Please post any games that arent here yet. Or mail em of course!!

ProPain
16-12-2003, 10:34
ladder is updated and Kemal resumes his lead again. Elkdakkar is rising quickly with his 2nd consecutive win, Civ runs in the family I guess! KingReno enters the ladder with his first victory. Yours truly steadily slides downward [cry]

Egypt has taken the lead in the civ ranking and spain is sinking further in the marsh. I guess taking Spain for ISDG is not a good idea [fdevil]

Aggie
16-12-2003, 10:43
Killer and me started a new ladder game.

It's a demigod game with two settlers for the humans. Killer is the Netherlands and I am the Germans (don't mention the war [:p] )

EDIT: Good to see that things normalized at the top of the ladder :).

ProPain
16-12-2003, 16:55
Will add that game asap (=tonite) Which also goes for more running ladder games, post em and I'll add em.

Skyfish
16-12-2003, 18:27
I have 3 running games atm :
v DrA
v Gothmog
v Kemal

col
16-12-2003, 23:03
Lost v Erikk

The Chinese went down to the Mongols in our alternate universe.

ERIKK
28-12-2003, 16:01
ERIKK (Babylon) defeats Beam (Iroquois)!

Thanks!

ps: see for my running games my PBEM property thread.

Aggie
31-12-2003, 07:39
Stapel and me started a 1vs1 with 6 ai on demigod (2 settlers for us).
I'm the Mayan and Stapel is the Chinese

I also sent a mail!

ProPain
31-12-2003, 16:26
Updated ladder except for C3C game. I have to adjust the database for the new civs. Will look into it on hangover day.

Not much changed in the top 10. Kemal will end 2003 as our ladder leader [goodjob] His strategy: You don't need to play much games, as long as you make sure you always win! Congratulations Kemal

Erik has made an impressive jump on the ladder the last fortnight. COngratulations to you too!

Not included but made by hand. Most active players:

1. Lt. Killer M. - 19 finished games
2. ERIKK & Aggie - 15 games finished
3. JackMerchant - 14 games finished
4. anarres - 12 games finished

Well that's the ladder in the closing hours of 2003.

I wish you all a happy new year and a lot of happy civ dueling in 2004!

PP

Aggie
02-01-2004, 17:38
DrA and me decided to end our pbem. In this game I was the Aztecs and DrA the Japanese.

Plux
05-01-2004, 14:33
In the ladder section my running games weren't displayed correctly. The stated game against CB has finished long ago in an (according to him) unofficial victory for CB, and I have now four 1-1's running: vs Jack Merchant (PTW veeeerry slowly [sad]), vs Killer (C3C), vs Erikk (C3C) and vs Eldakkar (C3C).

Skyfish
05-01-2004, 14:47
quote:The stated game against CB has finished long ago in an (according to him) unofficial victory for CB
[scratch]
What do you mean "according to him" ?
Looking at the "Finished Games" your game is not considered officially finished so no problem there.
According to me he quit all his running games but has still not been credited the losses yet...
No ?

DrAlimentado
05-01-2004, 16:21
Skyfish's dirty rotten Zulu's somehow beat my valiant Aztecs in our grudge match (the flukey cheating bastard).

I think he used good tactics and superior strategy the gamey cunt!! [mad2]

Plux
05-01-2004, 19:10
I meant that CB didn't want it to count for the ladder -despite his win- because the map was too unbalanced (I began in the middle of five strong civs, whilst he at had only two easy going ones.. I tried to argue and make it count, but he wouldn't take it.. ;)

Aggie
05-01-2004, 20:37
Beam and me started a demigod game today. I am the Sumerians and Beam is the Celts.

Mail sent as well...

ProPain
07-01-2004, 14:39
Updated the ladder:
- Removed Plux vs CB game
- Entered DrA vs SKy result
- Entered Aggie vs Beam

I updated the database for c3c on the 4th so I can enter all c3 matches too. Plux please let me now who's playing what civ's in your running games.

Aggie
07-01-2004, 14:40
Sky is 5 points behind Kemal!

Skyfish
07-01-2004, 14:44
[eek]

Aggie
10-01-2004, 10:07
Aggie and Melifluous started a ladder game on Demigod. I'm the Dutch and Meli is the English.

Mail sent as well..

Beam
10-01-2004, 13:24
Overview of my running games:

Col(Persia) vs. Iroqs - Emp
ErikkII (Spain) vs. Byz. - Demi Light
anarres (Sumeria) vs. Spain - Demi, extra settler for Beam
Aggie (Sumeria) vs. Celts - Demi Light
Killer (Hittites) vs. Dutch - Emp

ProPain
15-01-2004, 12:28
Updated the ladder but havent processed Aggies games yet.

ERIKK
18-01-2004, 17:30
Stapel (Arabs) defeats ERIKK (China) again... [mad2]

Stapel
18-01-2004, 17:34
quote:Originally posted by ERIKK

Stapel (Arabs) defeats ERIKK (China) again... [mad2]


[hammer] :D

ProPain
19-01-2004, 22:13
Updated the ladder

yndy
26-01-2004, 13:08
Yndy (Persia) won vs. Erikk (Japan) when he conceded the other day. One down, one to go, at least I made it to the ladder.

anarres
26-01-2004, 13:40
Killer gave up against me about a week ago in our islands PBEM. I was Babylon and IIRC Killer was Japan.

Sorry for not reporting it sooner. [:I]

col
26-01-2004, 15:01
I've got running games

persians v Beam (iros) C3C
Babs v Killer (?) ptw
Aztecs v Stapel (iros) ptw
? v Meli (?) C3C

ERIKK
31-01-2004, 22:54
ERIKK (maya's) defeats Plux (Iroquois) in 202 turns!

Running games: see http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=449

ERIKK
04-02-2004, 20:37
A fast game on a tiny map: ERIKK (Iroquios) defeats Digger (Persia) in 87 turns.

For my running games: see http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=449

ProPain
05-02-2004, 14:16
Will update tonight

anarres
06-02-2004, 22:39
I surrendered (as Celts) against Markstar (Iroquois). FWIW it was PTW.

ERIKK
14-02-2004, 13:31
A nice game on a great map: ERIKK (Byzantines) outresearches Killer (Spain) in 168 turns.
Killer resigned, he was 1 age behind.

For my running games: see http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=449

ProPain
15-02-2004, 12:02
I encountered erik vs killerII in my database and it is still open. What to do with that?

NM, foundit in your running games list.

ProPain
15-02-2004, 12:31
Updated ladder

ERIKK
15-02-2004, 12:55
I played 20 games 10 won/10 lost. => It's not correct, I think you forgot my last game in the
player ranking/player ranking inc civ. In the finished games, the last Killer game is missing
too, although over there it says finished: 20 games.

Please check it. Maybe your webpage hasn't been refreshed correctly.

Lt. Killer M
15-02-2004, 13:11
Marskars MWs defeated my Immos.

Skyfish
15-02-2004, 13:30
Yeah something went wrong somewhere: Markstar has 2 victories not 3...

ProPain
15-02-2004, 14:08
Markstar has 2, he won from anarres and Killer.

Skyfish
15-02-2004, 14:12
Thats what I am saying but the ladder page says 3 victories, sorry PP :(

ProPain
15-02-2004, 14:21
That's only the ocunter sky, not the score. I'll edit that later. score is correct.

It has to do with a wrong entry I made and corrected.

ProPain
15-02-2004, 14:45
Fixed the counters on Killer and Markstar. Enetered Killer vs Erik match.

anarres
15-02-2004, 15:12
I won (Arabs) against Matrix (Vikings) yesterday, is that too late to get in this update?

ProPain
15-02-2004, 15:58
not to late, i'll enter that one today too.

Irigy
23-02-2004, 16:14
I (Celts) lost again Killer (Vikings).

EDIT:

For details into this look here:

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1518&REPLY_ID=20190

Lt. Killer M
23-02-2004, 18:59
Please remove the Iigy-Killer game

due to constant nagging I will play on against krys......... [rolleyes]

Lt. Killer M
23-02-2004, 19:26
Koreaplux wins against my French

Lt. Killer M
25-02-2004, 09:18
Krys gets a default win with his Byz against my Spanish.

Markstar
03-03-2004, 17:31
Hi,
I have 2 games currently running (could it be that the web interface isn't working?):

1. ERIKK (Zulu) vs Markstar (Iroquois)
2. Arghis (German) vs Markstar (Japan)

Skyfish
03-03-2004, 19:32
I have to claim a win against Killer too :(
Killer Germany - Skyfish France

ProPain
07-03-2004, 19:40
Cant update beyond the krys-killer game. Killer claims a loss, but the game is still going jusging from the spoiler. I'm confused.

The web interface doenst work and that's what it says too! I'll fix that one asap but I;m short on time lately!

Socrates
07-03-2004, 20:21
I thought Killer had a word with you about our game ?? He wanted to state upon the ladder outcome immediately, and so I claimed a "win". Now, because Civ is a game that takes a LOT of time, and because I've already put so much energy in the game, the last thing I'd like would be to stop the game for a stupid reason. We will continue the game, this is the starting statement. What happens then is up to you to decide.

Lt. Killer M
07-03-2004, 20:24
OO: krys gets a win, we play on but not for the ladder.

only ladder game I continue (all others get a default win) is CG - I do not see any reason for him not to lose :D

ProPain
08-03-2004, 15:55
I fixed the web based entry. It now sends an email to me! Next improvement will be auto filling the database from the webpage. That involves some security issues however so I've got to look in to that first.

digger760
08-03-2004, 16:02
quote:Originally posted by ProPain

I fixed the web based entry. It now sends an email to me! Next improvement will be auto filling the database from the webpage. That involves some security issues however so I've got to look in to that first.


I had some thoughts about that PP....i wrote them down a while back..but i forget if i emailed them to you or did i post them somewhere. IIRC my thoughts were based on adding a temporary page which people have submitted from the web page...then all you have to do is approve them and they get added to the DB

Lt. Killer M
15-03-2004, 18:34
I claim a win due to dissapearance against CG.

Lt. Killer M
15-03-2004, 18:34
I claim a win due to dissapearance against CG. Can't remeber civ anymore even as it has been so long since we played a turn. Will look that up and add them to htis post later.



another very good game start shot :(

ProPain
15-03-2004, 22:14
And that win is awarded without blinking my eyes.

Aggie
15-03-2004, 22:15
Congrats Killer [thumbsup] Finally!! ... I mean finally this rule is enforced on a clear case.

Lt. Killer M
16-03-2004, 00:29
thanx [rolleyes]



[cry]

ProPain
20-03-2004, 14:06
I've updated the ladder with new members. the games will be updated a bit later as I have to resolve some issues in finished games order.

PLease bear with me.

Markstar
20-03-2004, 14:25
quote:Originally posted by ProPain

PLease bear with me. I just think it's great you guys put all that time in doing this for us. Don't think it can be said enough! [goodjob]

Another ladder game started (my [u]3</u>rd):
Markus (Iroquois) vs Snowman (Celts) in PTW.

Yeah, yeah, Iroquois again. I'm beginning to get tired of them as well, but since Snowman is taking the Celts I don't think I have any other choice. [blush]

Socrates
22-03-2004, 01:12
I have to claim a loss in my game against Skyfish. I had the Persians, he was the Iroquois, we played with C3C. Well, I lost against the ladder leader ? [blush]

anarres
22-03-2004, 10:33
At least you don't lose many points then kryszcztov. IIRC you only lose 40 points instead of (the average) 50. If you had won you would have got 60 points from Sky.

I would also like to claim a win in my game vs Gothmog. I was China and he was Persia.

ERIKK
05-04-2004, 09:59
Markstar (Iroquois) whipes out ERIKK (zulus) in 187 turns...

Congrats to M. :)

Kingreno
07-04-2004, 12:50
Propain (China) defeats KingReno (Zulu)

Markstar
09-04-2004, 13:07
Markstar (Japan) wins against Arghis (Germany).

Was a good and fast-paced game. [thumbsup]

ERIKK
17-04-2004, 10:25
ERIKK (Sumerians) loses from Kingreno (Iroquois)
ERIKK (Aztecs) loses from Stapel (Iroquois)

:(

Skyfish
17-04-2004, 19:24
anarres totally controlled my ass in our game and his
stinking Dutch assholes beat my beautiful Byzantine girl [mad3]

anarres
18-04-2004, 00:56
That's one whole load of ass Sky! [:o]

ProPain
20-04-2004, 00:20
Updated the ladder, it was long overdue.


Sky is still in the lead, closely followed by Kemal. Markstar is the knocking on their doors however. Congratulations on your fast rise Markstar! [goodjob]

Several remarks:


Have entered all games in this thread. Have not rewarded auto wins on all Killers games and will not. I will look at each request for a win to be awarded seperately
Have made up civs for the CG vs Killer game. Took civ close to 1000 mark
I am thinking of adding a time element to the ladder to weed out the retired players. My current idea is to take out players that have their last win over 6 months ago and do not have any running games. Will depend on possibilities for implementation however

Aggie
20-04-2004, 06:38
Just when I decide to continue my name is scratched from the ladder :( Anyway, I started a new game vs anarres. I'm the Greeks, anarres is the Germans.

EDIT: and where's the Kemal - Sky game in this ladder?

Markstar
20-04-2004, 07:09
quote:Originally posted by ProPain

Sky is still in the lead, closely followed by Kemal. Markstar is the knocking on their doors however. Congratulations on your fast rise Markstar! [goodjob]
Thank you.

Hehe, I have -1 game going at the moment! [slanteye]
Does that mean I have to keep at least 2 games running to be even? [crazyeye]

ProPain
20-04-2004, 08:36
@Aggie: You're starting a new game so you will stay on the ladder. But CB and DogBoy for example are not returning as far as I can see now and they are just clogging up the ladder now they cant be challenged any more.

The Kemal - Skyfish game is still running

@markstar: I noticed that and already fixed it, uploading the new config file to point to the correct database now. Still a mystery how this happened though..[confused]

Socrates
20-04-2004, 08:37
Well, ProPain, you gave me a win for my game against Killer, and this was an auto-win, so... But I forgot to say that I have a 3rd game in progress (that means one at the moment, if you don't count the one vs Killer) : Stapel is the Mongols, I am the Chinese.

Aggie
20-04-2004, 08:52
quote:Originally posted by ProPain

@Aggie: You're starting a new game so you will stay on the ladder. But CB and DogBoy for example are not returning as far as I can see now and they are just clogging up the ladder now they cant be challenged any more.

But they are still in the ladder while my name is gone...

Markstar
20-04-2004, 08:58
quote:Originally posted by ProPain

@markstar: I noticed that and already fixed it, uploading the new config file to point to the correct database now. Still a mystery how this happened though..[confused]
Aehm, excuse me for complaining again, [blush2] but now I'm listed as having 0 games, when, if fact, I do have a game going vs Snowman (post #18).
(That's why I asked if I needed [u]2</u> games running to get even. ;))

Maybe it helps solving the puzzle that I am also not available under "Running games" while I am available under "Finished games". Could it be related to that?

ProPain
20-04-2004, 09:02
OMFG!! I know what happened [blush] Yesterday I accidently pressed -b- and a ladder member -b- was added - I thought - So I deleted that. What actualy happened is that I renamed you to -b- and deleted you [blush][wallbash]. Fixing that now.

ProPain
20-04-2004, 09:10
Fixed it Aggie, you're back in no 3 position! Also added 2 new members and a few running matches I found in the mapmaking forum.

Beam
27-04-2004, 21:44
These are my current running games as copied from the ladder pages:

140
09/04/2004
Beam
Indians
Dell19
Japanese

106
15/01/2004
Beam
Dutch
Lt_Killer_M
Hittites

105
15/01/2004
anarres
Sumerians
Beam
Spanish

104
15/01/2004
Beam
Byzantines
ERIKK
Spanish

103
15/01/2004
Beam
Iroquois
Col
Persians

102
05/01/2004
Aggie
Sumerians
Beam
Celts

Update:
- 102 is still in the freezer. I am more than happy to continue but agreed with Aggie that he has the final vote. If it is quit it has no ladder consequences.
- 104 is canceled without ladder consequences. See the spoilers for confirmation.
- 106 is Beams first ever win of a PBEM! Killer surrendered a while ago but we did not post the result here yet.

- New PBEM is ERIKK (Russia) vs Beam (Celts)

Aggie
27-04-2004, 21:50
My new games:

Aggie (Greece) - anarres (Germany)
Aggie (England) - Kryszcztov (Carthage)
Aggie (Byzantines) - Skyfish (England)

Beam
27-04-2004, 21:57
What shall we do with our PBEM Aggie?

Markstar
03-05-2004, 05:27
I (Iros) claim victory against Snowman (Celts).

Aggie
03-05-2004, 06:13
Beam, I'd rather start a new PBEM. But I first want to finish one of the three I'm playing now. I don't think it's good to continue our first game, because I read the spoiler (I expected not to play PBEM's anymore).

Beam
03-05-2004, 07:13
Allright, 102 is canceled without ladder consequences.

ProPain
05-05-2004, 22:38
Updated ladder

Aggie
10-06-2004, 18:11
FWIW (the ladder appears to be dead to me) I just won my game vs kryszcztov. He was Carthage and I was England. C3C 1.22, Deity.

Aggie
18-06-2004, 20:07
Today I lost my demigod game against Beam. I was Russia and he was the Ottomans.

anarres
18-06-2004, 21:51
The ladder is not dead btw, it just needs some TLC from PP when he gets back.

Aggie
27-06-2004, 16:25
Grille beat me today. This was a C3C demigod game. He was Carthage and I was Spain.

*BUMP* [mischief]

anarres
11-07-2004, 20:37
Oh and KR resigned to me a couple of days ago.

KR was Carthage, I was Byzantines.

ProPain
11-07-2004, 22:34
Time to put that TLC in the ladder. Updates before friday depending how smoothly work and comp repairs go.

Aggie
25-07-2004, 17:37
Still not updated?

Socrates
19-08-2004, 22:34
I've just lost to Stapel, I was Chinese, he was Mongols, on C3C 1.15. D'oh, I suck at war and I suck at PBEM. [blush2]

Stapel
20-08-2004, 08:38
quote:Originally posted by kryszcztov

I've just lost to Stapel, I was Chinese, he was Mongols, on C3C 1.15. D'oh, I suck at war and I suck at PBEM. [blush2]


All you need to learn is how to raze AI cultural powerhouse cities :) .

Socrates
20-08-2004, 18:46
quote:Originally posted by Stapel

All you need to learn is how to raze AI cultural powerhouse cities :) .

I'm currently analysing my game (from time to time, when I come to think about it), and what I can tell you is that you are right but you need to delete the "all" at the beginning of your sentence. ;) I'm still suffering from an old personal Civ crappy style... (to be continued)

Beam
24-09-2004, 21:22
Dell19 throwed the towel in our game a couple of days ago. Dell, must have been a sad week in your Civ career. ;)

Arghis
30-09-2004, 16:15
Game 137
21/01/2004
Arghis
French
Moff Jerjerrod
Chinese

is finished, and i win (Moff having agreed to stop it)

Game 138
22/01/2004
Arghis
Carthaginians
Irigy
French

is dead as Irig has disapeared (it has already been said somewhere else ...)

When is the ladder being updated please ?

Ginger_Ale
01-10-2004, 22:32
If this is in the right place (which it is most certainly not probably), I would like to sign up for the ladder - how do I do this? Again, I couldn't see a thread for signups...so pardon me if I shouldn't post here...or just beat me up. :)

Socrates
01-10-2004, 22:38
quote:Originally posted by Ginger_Ale

If this is in the right place (which it is most certainly not probably), I would like to sign up for the ladder - how do I do this? Again, I couldn't see a thread for signups...so pardon me if I shouldn't post here...or just beat me up. :)

Hey listen my boy, do you know much about Socrates ? Do you find him funny with sun glasses on his nose ? Well you shouldn't. We aren't those funny nerds here, it's a serious place, so work your way with care !

Now for the beating up :
[punch] That will do for tonight.

Kingreno
01-10-2004, 23:47
quote:Originally posted by Ginger_Ale

If this is in the right place (which it is most certainly not probably), I would like to sign up for the ladder - how do I do this? Again, I couldn't see a thread for signups...so pardon me if I shouldn't post here...or just beat me up. :)


Ignore Krys, he has not been himself lately![:o]

As soon as you get a game started ( go to the challenges forum ) you can agree with the opponent(s) whether it is for the ladder or not. If so, you will appear on the ladder once you have submitted a "score".
Oh, and welcome to the Duel zone![goodjob]

Ginger_Ale
01-10-2004, 23:52
Alright, thanks all. (especially krys. ;) ) - I've been lurking this place for awhile, as some of you might know, the guest is a lot of times me. I'm pming people that I would very much enjoy a PBEM game with, and if that doesn't work, Opponent Finding Forum here I come!

Beam
02-10-2004, 00:08
Welcome and have a good time at CDZ Ginger Ale, just don't drink to much of that stuff. Fish are told to piss in it. ;)

When you've found an opponent also post a Map Request in the Map Maping forum, I guess you've got that already.

Socrates
02-10-2004, 02:10
quote:Originally posted by Kingreno

Ignore Krys, he has not been himself lately![:o]
That is me, for sure ! [:o] You'll see, I'm full of surprise...

Well OK, I was twice strange today, I think it's because I've read all your fun in the IDSG forum and now I wanna be funny... But I'm a bad joker... [cry]

So Ginger_Ale, is it you who duplicated to 25 guests and tried to reply to old threads while not being registered ? Or is it your evil bots ? [evil]

BTW, now that the ladder is dead, can we use this thread as a spam thread ? [jumpD] I also want to become the "official CDZ greetings guy" ; that means that, each time a new member comes here and posts, I'll greet him my way ! [joker] Can I ? OK, let's go dig some jokes in the yard...

Ginger_Ale
02-10-2004, 11:46
How did you find out about my secret plan to take over CDZ? [evil]

Thanks...I dunno if that ladder is dead or not, I just want to try out a PBEM. And to answer your question krys, I'm usually just one guest. ;)

akots
13-11-2004, 05:47
Game number ... hm, I don't know which. Finished 2 days ago between akots (Chinese) and Arghis (Persia) map made by Beam, and I have won somehow.

anarres
13-11-2004, 12:27
The game between Aggie and me finished with a win for me about a week ago, although I didn't do anything to deserve it.

The game between Yndy and me finished about a month ago with a win for me.

akots
13-11-2004, 21:17
Game no-AI between akots (Ottomans) and Krys (Greeks) (map made by Beam) has been finished and Krys resigned on turn 169. So, I have won apparently.

Grille
13-11-2004, 23:06
pard me, I'm not sure how this all works.

do we just announce a game's end here or do we also have to submit a game's start via the ladder pages (&gt;I see there's some submit feature, also the games have numbers)?
[confused]

e.g. if my Tour de France arrives at Beijing :D or if Beam puts a coat of yellow paint on the Eiffel Tower :(, we just say that here?
not sure if I play a ladder game with Beam at all [hmm](Beam!?)


btw I'm still 'officially' having an emperor game as Iros vs Sky's Celts in progress which is actually not running anymore...

does the ladder still get updated?

akots
27-12-2004, 23:15
I guess I can claim victory against OPD since he is not responding and earlier he wrote he does not want to continue. Map was made by Beam, OPD was the Zulu and I was Celts. No AI game on Emperor level.

Grille
29-01-2005, 17:31
Grille's chirpy French civilisation could not stand Beam's baaad, evil, threatening (etc...;)) Chinese anymore. France surrendered today.
Game started 07/2004, C3C on demi-god.

Markstar
17-02-2005, 00:19
I'm happy to report a victory for me, playing the Iros vs Matrix as Celts.

I never came so close to defeat I think, but in the end the mighty MWs prevailed again. Throughout most of the game I was at war with all of the other 5 AIs I knew. And they were coming for me, at the beginning with warriors, but soon with Swords- and Horsemen. All that while I was trying to kill Matrix who, even though playing a standard map, was pretty much right next to me. Only when I made peace with the AI and paid a ridiculous amount of money and tech to please them was I able to get the best of Matrix.[jump]