ERIKK
23-04-2004, 09:13
Logging Diplo Game #2:
Spring01 negotiations:
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Austria\Stapel: Proposed Key Lepanto, Stapel accepted, Stapel agreed on me getting 5 centers
in winter01, for defensive purposes against France/Germany I told him. We have detailed
plans laid out till FA02. Turkey will fall if he opens anti-Russian... Stapel is making
sure he will and the point is to have Turkey still doing it in FA02 as my moves will be
anti-Austrian and Tunis (not standard Lepanto). My FA02 move to Ser will wake them up.
Stapel trusts me even though my SP01 moves are called 'Stab Lepanto' and 'Austrian Attack'!!!
But Stapel is a sly motherfucker, he will stab me for sure. I hope not until we destroyed
Turkey... I am sure he thinks that he can get rid of me when the time has come. By that time
I will put my trust in Col (I think).
Turkey\Schip: Schip says I am his worst enemy. He also says he is being manipulated by Col and
Stapel (which I know is true). Stapel is pushing him against Russia. And Russia probably told
him not to trust Stapel at all. I told him not to fear me as long as he does not fill the Med
with boats. I told him I wanted to watch events first and then decide what to do. We agreed to
talk again after the SP01 moves. (I guess to see if we need to be friends or not.)
Schip is a rookie but not stupid. I think Stapel thought he had him in his pocket but then
Col showed up! Anyway Stapel really put much effort in manipulating Schip and he is absolutely
sure Schip will do what he told him. Which is good for me.
Germany\Tunerica: Tunerica wants a triple alliance. Fine by me but we must keep the Key a secret
till spring02. I proposed a DMZ for Tyr which he sort of agreed upon. Stapel agreed on the
Triple alliance. Tunerica will probably be mad at me when he sees my opening moves. I don't
know what he will do in SP01. If he moves to Tyr then I need to rethink my moves but with
Stapel on my side nothing can wrong. Tunerica did complain about France not letting him
have Belgium...
Not sure about Tunerica, when I listen carefully to sablewyvern, Tunerica seems not a rookie.
England\Babu: The relation seems very positive. I proposed him to put up a fight with Russia.
He responded to think about it but needed to check France and Germany first. Haven't spoken to him
since.
Babu has played diplo before, he seems very friendly. For the rest I don't know anything about
him.
France\Sablewyvern: I told him I would wait before chosing what to do. He proposed a non
agression pact. After some discussion we agreed on this:
1) GOL, PIE, NAF neutral
2) TYN, TUN Italian, WES French
3) Only move troops in when they have to retreat and other options provide a very high chance of
failing
4) Non agression lasts till SP04, only then troops can move in
He seems to be a veteran diplo player and knows his things. Sablewyvern about Tunerica: I know he's
claiming holland and belgium by divine right. I trust him, we'll see if he is worthy. Anyway, this
proposal leads to a massive attack on England or Germany by France...
Russia\Col: I pointed on an alliance against Austria/Stapel (which has a good reputation of being
very powerfull) but he told me to wait and see first. He advised me to make the standard moves. I did
not really offered to be his puppet, that would be too obvious. Anyway, he wanted to wait and see
first. I told him I would do the standard moves and go for Tunis. I hope he will be impressed by my
move to Trieste and convice him to turn on Turkey!
Col: Watch Turkey like a hawk, kick Austria.
Col: I'm not going directly for Turkey - but I will open to Black Sea.
But he told Stapel he is headed for total annihilation of Turkey!
Well, after the spring moves we will see if France, Austria and Turkey have lived up to their promises...
Spring01 negotiations:
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Austria\Stapel: Proposed Key Lepanto, Stapel accepted, Stapel agreed on me getting 5 centers
in winter01, for defensive purposes against France/Germany I told him. We have detailed
plans laid out till FA02. Turkey will fall if he opens anti-Russian... Stapel is making
sure he will and the point is to have Turkey still doing it in FA02 as my moves will be
anti-Austrian and Tunis (not standard Lepanto). My FA02 move to Ser will wake them up.
Stapel trusts me even though my SP01 moves are called 'Stab Lepanto' and 'Austrian Attack'!!!
But Stapel is a sly motherfucker, he will stab me for sure. I hope not until we destroyed
Turkey... I am sure he thinks that he can get rid of me when the time has come. By that time
I will put my trust in Col (I think).
Turkey\Schip: Schip says I am his worst enemy. He also says he is being manipulated by Col and
Stapel (which I know is true). Stapel is pushing him against Russia. And Russia probably told
him not to trust Stapel at all. I told him not to fear me as long as he does not fill the Med
with boats. I told him I wanted to watch events first and then decide what to do. We agreed to
talk again after the SP01 moves. (I guess to see if we need to be friends or not.)
Schip is a rookie but not stupid. I think Stapel thought he had him in his pocket but then
Col showed up! Anyway Stapel really put much effort in manipulating Schip and he is absolutely
sure Schip will do what he told him. Which is good for me.
Germany\Tunerica: Tunerica wants a triple alliance. Fine by me but we must keep the Key a secret
till spring02. I proposed a DMZ for Tyr which he sort of agreed upon. Stapel agreed on the
Triple alliance. Tunerica will probably be mad at me when he sees my opening moves. I don't
know what he will do in SP01. If he moves to Tyr then I need to rethink my moves but with
Stapel on my side nothing can wrong. Tunerica did complain about France not letting him
have Belgium...
Not sure about Tunerica, when I listen carefully to sablewyvern, Tunerica seems not a rookie.
England\Babu: The relation seems very positive. I proposed him to put up a fight with Russia.
He responded to think about it but needed to check France and Germany first. Haven't spoken to him
since.
Babu has played diplo before, he seems very friendly. For the rest I don't know anything about
him.
France\Sablewyvern: I told him I would wait before chosing what to do. He proposed a non
agression pact. After some discussion we agreed on this:
1) GOL, PIE, NAF neutral
2) TYN, TUN Italian, WES French
3) Only move troops in when they have to retreat and other options provide a very high chance of
failing
4) Non agression lasts till SP04, only then troops can move in
He seems to be a veteran diplo player and knows his things. Sablewyvern about Tunerica: I know he's
claiming holland and belgium by divine right. I trust him, we'll see if he is worthy. Anyway, this
proposal leads to a massive attack on England or Germany by France...
Russia\Col: I pointed on an alliance against Austria/Stapel (which has a good reputation of being
very powerfull) but he told me to wait and see first. He advised me to make the standard moves. I did
not really offered to be his puppet, that would be too obvious. Anyway, he wanted to wait and see
first. I told him I would do the standard moves and go for Tunis. I hope he will be impressed by my
move to Trieste and convice him to turn on Turkey!
Col: Watch Turkey like a hawk, kick Austria.
Col: I'm not going directly for Turkey - but I will open to Black Sea.
But he told Stapel he is headed for total annihilation of Turkey!
Well, after the spring moves we will see if France, Austria and Turkey have lived up to their promises...