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Wow, today if have been reading about Diplomacy and I realy like it!
:)
Now that my intensive Markstar game has ended I have some time left.
I am thinking about starting a diplo game on the same rules/mechanism
as the other one. I figured I can have read all about the game in a
week or so. I will have knowledge of the game mechanics and the
general strategies/what to do's&what not to do's.
Anyway, are there people out there who want to startup another diplo
game?
(If none is interested I can put the idea directly out of my head!) ;)
I don't see problesm in being involved in 2 diplo games at the same time!
tunerica
05-04-2004, 17:15
Yeah I'd be interested. Would definitely make an interesting mix to be enemies in one game and allies in antoher.
Socrates
05-04-2004, 17:53
You're welcome to start another game in this forum ! :)
However I won't take part in it, since I do see a problem in having people as both friends and enemies at the same time ! :D (not to mention the huuuge amount of time it requires) This opinion was clear in my head before I started the 1st game.
Now I can still be the orders receiver for your game, if you want to be the one in mine.
Cool! :)
But we still need 4 more players!
Common guys!
Playing a different nation is a totally new game involving different strategies and diplo styles! (Not to mention the numerous possibilies per nation you have!)
I wanna play, but propose a scedule first ERIKK. I an not totally sure I can spare the time! [:o]
I was thinking about taking the Krys schedule. 1 turn week per
week is slow enough I guess. Next to that I planned to view
the other game in it's first weeks to see if any problems come up.
That gives me time to read more about the game and it's mechanics.
There is a lot of literature to read about strategies and how the
game works. I also have to get familiar with the realpolitik tool
and the map/provincenames.
Anyway, if people do not like the schedule, because for example it
IS the same as the other game, please let me know. We should be
flexible in it.
Next to that, we already have a veteran Diplomacy player (Stapel)
and might get a second (Beam is still in doubt of joining the
2nd game). They probably will help us rookies becoming good
opponents!
The Krys schedule:
- Sunday evening, 8pm : turn starts, discussions are opened ;
- Wednesday, 8pm : discussions end, timeframe for orders ;
- Friday, 6pm : deadline for orders ;
- Friday, 8pm : results are posted on CDZ, timeframe for retreat orders ;
- Saturday, 6pm : deadline for retreat orders ;
- Saturday, 8pm : retreats are posted on CDZ ;
... springs : turn ends, next turn starts...
... autumns : timeframe for adjustment orders ;
- Sunday, 6pm :
... autumns : deadline for adjustment orders ;
- Sunday, 8pm :
... autumns : adjustments are posted on CDZ, turn ends, next turn starts...
I might be able to drag my housemate Frank into this game. Not sure though.
Schedule is fine with me.
OK Stapel!
For now in:
ERIKK
Stapel
Tunerica
Anarres
Not in but pending:
Beam
Frank
Game startdate: waiting to get full
Game admin ERIKK but will need help from the verterans
Krys offered to post the moves simultaniously.
I'm in - if you can wait until I get back
Yikes!!!!
We have another pro here! I hoped you would join. Anyway, we will wait for you which gives the rookies time to learn more about the game. I am in a steep learning curve atm.
BTW: I read some interesting stuff in Richard Sharpe's book about players blackmailing each other over erotic adventures. I wondered if he was talking about you, as you played him too! ;)
Joined:
ERIKK = rookie
Stapel = pro
Tunerica = rookie
Anarres = rookie
Col = pro
Might join:
Beam = pro, but calls himself rookie ;)
Game startdate: waiting to get full and at least not within 2 weeks
Game admin ERIKK but will need help from the veterans
Krys offered to post the moves simultaniously.
We need two more players! Please sign up, even if you are new to the game: as you can see we have more rookies playing! :)
Don't count on Frank.... :(
I have found a new victim.
I told him he has 2 days to respond.
I might post on the CFC diplo forum but will first wait some more. We have plenty of time, maybe more people from CDZ will step foreward...
tunerica
08-04-2004, 14:35
My housemate will play if there is still a spot up for grabs. He has played once before and is pretty keen to play.
Cool, do you think he is willing to sign up on CDZ?
It's not necessary I guess... [hmm]
I'm interested but I don't know anything about the game, so I'll need some time to read in. Playing time should be OK as I am unemployed and nearly finished me studies.
Socrates
08-04-2004, 16:00
Well, about being member of CDZ : I don't think it's necessary, though it could be better. Any game master can do what he wants.
I hope more people will come to this forum, so that game #2 isn't necessarily a 2nd game with the same players from game #1. I know some people are eager to play more and more, and you can do nothing to prevent them from playing. [goodjob] But I'd rather see other players having a go than the same players again and again. Of course that is my humble opinion, and BTW anyone is free to start a 3rd game if the demand exists.
Up to you guys ! Just please : keep this forum organized, with understandable titles and clear rules. As the mod of this forum, I'll talk to game master(s) if I feel like something gets messy...
Have fun and good luck ! [coool]
[party]
I guess the game is full then! I will add you on the game #2 results thread. (Post comments on that info-list here please, I dont want it messed up)
With Tunerica's housemate and Schip we will have 7 players. Stapel, I am sorry for your housemate if he wants to join. If so, he (or you) must start a new game (game #3). I am sure that one will get enough players too 1 ;)
Schip: you will have plenty of time to read. See for usefull links the game #1 threads from Krys.
tunerica
08-04-2004, 16:32
If Stapels housemate is real keen he can have my spot since I'm already in a game. Otherwise I will play.
My new victim is a former housemate.
Erikk, I think his provisional applience was there before Tunerica's housemate's or Schip's applience.
Not too important, but still..
K, lets wait the 2 days. If he wont join then we will still have the necessary 7 persons :)
Stapel, I was under the impression that normally 'first to come first to serve' counts in these circumstances... But thank god we dont have an uneasy situation right now! Anyway, whenever a 3th game shows up, I will probably join... :D
[u]Players:</u>
ERIKK
Stapel
Anarres
Col
'Housemate Tunerica'
Schip
'Former Housemate Stapel' (Tunerica in reserve)
OK, lets gather some info about our opponents: It will end up in the closed results thread, which will be our game resource thread.
======
Player: ERIKK
Email: ERIKK AT civ3duelzone DOT com
Country preference list:
#1 Italy
#2 Turkey
#3 Austria
#4 France
#5 Germany
#6 Russia
#7 England
======
I think we should give our country preference and have people be able to play their preferred
country instead of just assigning people on countries (which often happens in Diplo games). In
case of countries wanted by 2+ players I will ask a neutral person to roll a dice.
tunerica
12-04-2004, 16:43
Here's all my details:
Email and MSN: tunerica AT hotmail DOT com
My preferences are as follows:
1 - Germany
2 - Italy
3 - France
4 - England
5 - Turkey
6 - Russia
7 - Austria (playing them in the other game)
I will try to get my housemate to post here tomorrow, if he doesn't I will post his info.
Not Turkey.
Stapel AT CDZ dot com
no preference on the country yet (surprise me)
E-mail1: Schip AT civ3duelzone DOT com
E-mail2: paulschippers AT cqprocesmanagement DOT nl (could end up to be the same as the Civ adress)
MSN: hubertus54 AT hotmail DOT com
I think I need to drop from this now, instead of over-commiting myself (re-read my first post in this thread ;)).
Fuck!
I proposed a schedule, you just did not respond until now...
In this case we need a new player! Anyone???? [groucho]
Well, I was denying the obvious and hoping that I could 'find' time. It has recently been made very clear to me that I am far too busy...
Of course, I could have waited until the game had started to say no. [mischief]
I know anarres! :) You are into some serious diplomacy right now, in the ISDG! ;)
As there is not much time left I posted at CFC as there seem lots of folks wanting to play diplo out there! [groucho]
barbu1977
16-04-2004, 18:34
That FCF post worked, this is where I'm comming from....
I woulk like to play.
However, this would be my first time I play diplomacy by E-mail. I've played it a couple of times on a board game. So I hope you won't care too mutch with a newbee.
I can be reached at mcks01 4t hotmail d0t c0m
If down, msks01 4t videotron d0t c0m should work, but i will only take them at night.
I'll try to make my msn messenger to date to use it. The hotmail adress will work.
I have a question with the scedule. What timezone is CET?
barbu1977
16-04-2004, 18:52
As for country preference:
I like: 1- England, 2- France, 3- Russia
I don't care about: 4-Austria 5-Turkey
I disslike: 6-Germany 7-Italy
quote:Originally posted by barbu1977
That FCF post worked, this is where I'm comming from....
I woulk like to play.
However, this would be my first time I play diplomacy by E-mail. I've played it a couple of times on a board game. So I hope you won't care too mutch with a newbee.
I can be reached at mcks01 4t hotmail d0t c0m
If down, msks01 4t videotron d0t c0m should work, but i will only take them at night.
I'll try to make my msn messenger to date to use it. The hotmail adress will work.
I have a question with the scedule. What timezone is CET?
Hi barbu1977,
Welcome at CDZ! CDZ is were the PBEMers took refuge to have their
own spoiler-threads for their games. This wasn't possible at CFC.
We recently started a diplomacy forum fo dip games. It is still in
the biginning stage but looks good, as the PBEMers are reliable
players doing their usual 'one turn per day minimum'! ;) We have
two dip games now and hope to get more.
Some of us are diplo newbies, some have experience. The schedule is
1 season per week, the timezone is CET (Central European Timezone) which is GMT +1.
Anyway, Col will be back from holiday next week. Then we can devide
the nations and start the game.
ERIKK,
PS: I still need Tunerica's housemate's data...
Country prefs:
ERIKK : #1 Italy, #2 Turkey, #3 Austria
barbu1977 : #1 England, #2 France, #3 Russia
Tunerica : #1 Germany, #2 Italy, #3 France
Stapel : NONE (Not Turkey)
Schip : NONE
Col : ?
sablewyvern : NONE
tunerica
17-04-2004, 01:58
On behalf of my housemate,
Email and MSN: sablewyvern AT hotmail DOT com
Country Pref: Whatever
I know you're all full, but if you need a replacement, I'm available :).
quote:Originally posted by Toasty
I know you're all full, but if you need a replacement, I'm available :).
Hi Toasty! Welcome at CDZ! Indeed we are full but who knows
what happens when you start up a new game! [groucho]
Col, please state your country pref, then I can devide the nations and
start the game! [cool]
Prefs
1 Russia
2 Italy
3 France
4
5
6 Germany
7 Turkey
Just got back and am horribly jetlagged :(
Hi folks,
I put the remaining 3 names and 3 nations on pieces of paper, drew, and got this list.
P1 ERIKK Italy
P2 Stapel Austria
P3 sablewyvern France
P4 barbu1977 England
p5 Col Russia
P6 Schip Turkey
P7 Tunerica Germany
I would like to start the game this week. And since this is the first week and spring01 I propose to make the dealine for discussions and orders on Friday 22:00 CET. Thus, all can have discussions the oncoming 5 days. Next to that I would like to propose a 'power session': let's try to be all online on MSN this wednesday between, say roughly 20:00 - 23:00 CET.
Because I dont wanna be a dictator, please let me know if anyone has strong objections on having the deadline already set to friday this week. We can make it friday next week and have 12 days instead of 5 days for the spring01 discussions...
Let the diplomacy begin!!!
Greetings and good luck,
Erik
Looking good and attracting members just for the diplo game (y)
I am lacking contact with our Canadian friend.. Did any of you meet him on MSN?
barbu1977
20-04-2004, 19:04
Sorry i'm not able to get online very often. The firewall at my job doesn't permit messenger. PM and E-mail always work.
I'll be online at from 17h to 18h (EST) tonight (i beleive this is 23h-24h CET). Tomorow morning 6h30-7h30 (12h30-13h30) and tomorow night from 17h15.
I'll send E-mail to all of you soon.
Barbu MCMLXXII King of England
Hi, Italy has established some primary contacts with Germany, England, Austria and Turkey and is waiting to meet Russian and French diplomats! ;)
Italy and Turkey? Didn't know about that alliance [aargh] Till I get some 'I am available on msn' messages I'll keep to my Kebab in stead of Pizza :D BTW don't know if i'm online tomorrow evening, might be working on a new femal-project [coool] I'll let you all know when I am available for discussion (if necessary ofcourse)
quote:Originally posted by Schip
Italy and Turkey? Didn't know about that alliance [aargh] Till I get some 'I am available on msn' messages I'll keep to my Kebab in stead of Pizza :DWell, I don't know about any alliance either! [eek] First I need to have some more talks, including with you, dear Sultan! All contacts have yet been quite short and only informative.
sablewyvern
21-04-2004, 12:58
Hello all, France here.
I've finally registered, and started some discussion. I had forgotten how much fun Diplomacy can be!
I did send my moves to Krys. I can't wait to see the resultls ;)
Also send my moves to Krys... I really wonder how all moves turn out!
send them yesterday too. Bid of a same my keyboard crashed halfway the PM, so the last part was in capitals [confused]
tunerica
23-04-2004, 02:52
Mine and Sablewyverns have been sent on to Krys
Awaiting Col and Barbu....
kryszcztov, did Babu send his moves yet? If so, you can post the SP01 opening moves! [groucho]
Socrates
23-04-2004, 09:30
raw orders from game 2 - spring 1901 :
col - Russia
A Mos - Ukr
F Sev - BLA
A War - Gal
F StP- Bot
Schip - Turkey
F ANK - BLA
A SMY - ARM
A CON - BUL
tunerica - Germany
F Kie - Den
A Ber - Kie
A Mun - Ruh
sablewyvern - France
F Bre-Pic
A Mar-Spa
A Par-Gas
Stapel - Austria
A Budapest - Rumania
F Trieste - Albania
A Vienna - Galicia
ERIKK - Italy
Italy A rom - ven
Italy A ven - tri
Italy F nap - ion
barbu1977 - Great-Britain
F Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea
A Liverpool - Yorkshire
F London - North Sea
Everyone please check if it's correct, and raise your voice if anything is wrong here ! (this will apply to any turn now) Though I could solve the turn now, I'll let ERIKK do it, since he is your game master. Anyone can solve the turn for his own sake, so as to fully agree with what ERIKK will post in your results topic.
May all stinking left wing PvdA loving rats called ERIKK rot in hell!
[mad]
SPRING 01 MOVES: RESULTS
Spring 01 Remarks:
1) all moves were valid
2) two bounces occured
3) Realpolitik does not know 'Great-Britain', please use 'England'
Russia
A Mos - Ukr
F Sev - BLA *bounce*
A War - Gal *bounce*
F StP- Bot
Turkey
F ANK - BLA *bounce*
A SMY - ARM
A CON - BUL
Germany
F Kie - Den
A Ber - Kie
A Mun - Ruh
France
F Bre-Pic
A Mar-Spa
A Par-Gas
Austria
A Budapest - Rumania
F Trieste - Albania
A Vienna - Galicia *bounce*
Italy
A rom - ven
A ven - tri
F nap - ion
England
F Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea
A Liverpool - Yorkshire
F London - North Sea
MAP:
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/ERIKK/2004423103921_sp01.gif
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Has the world gone completely mad????
sablewyvern
23-04-2004, 12:58
I know I have. Well and truly in the running for most bizarre opening over here, I think.
tunerica
23-04-2004, 14:22
Man Italy shafted Austria big time, certainly makes this next turn interesting.
Well what do you know? After I mail you the schedule this comes up:
Krys is away for the weekend. He can post the moves at 14:00 CET on Friday but wont be around for the retreats. That is no problem I think because we most probably wont have any retreats. Krys is back on Sunday around dinner time. So we wont have any build order problems.
I suggest we all PM our Fall 1901 moves before 14:00 CET. Please let me know if you agree. Reply to all or post in the thread at CDZ please.
Thanks!
Erik
barbu1977
28-04-2004, 20:46
I have no problem with that.
If there is a retreat, it is probably just 1 player and can post it with out the need for a GM
tunerica
28-04-2004, 23:16
No problems here either.
waiting for sablewyvern...
Socrates
29-04-2004, 13:10
OK guys, sorry for the false alert. I was meant to go away this week-end, but now it seems I'll stay at home. No problem sending me the PMs before tomorrow 12pm GMT, but I'll wait for the evening before posting them. I thus have no problem for any retreat or adjustment orders.
This piece of news is almost certain. I'll post here again if it changes, but it's unlikely, so, in other words : no problemo this week-end !!!
Moves sent.
Lets see when you have them all Krys. But announch them in the evening!
Moves sent yesterday!
I will be in Camemberia from may 8th - 15th. So I can't send moves on friday 14th.
Socrates
30-04-2004, 18:36
movement orders for fall 1901 :
Austria :
F Albania - Ionian Sea
A Rumania Supports A Trieste - Serbia
A Vienna - Galicia
England :
F North Sea Convoys A Yorkshire - Belgium
F Norwegian Sea - Norway
A Yorkshire - Belgium
France :
A Gascony-Spain
A Spain-Portugal
F Picardy S A Yorkshire-Belgium
Germany :
A RUH - HOL
F DEN - SKA
A KIE - DEN
Italy :
A TRI - BUD
A VEN - TRI
F ION - TUN
Russia :
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden
F Sevastopol - Rumania
A Ukraine - Sevastopol
A Warsaw - Galicia
Turkey :
A ARM - SEV
F ANK - BLA
A BUL S austrian A ALB - GRE
FALL 01 MOVES: RESULTS
Fall 01 Remarks:
1) all moves were valid (Allthough Schip made small error without consequences.)
2) 2 bounces occured
3) 2 supports invalid
4) no retreats
Austria :
F Albania - Ionian Sea
A Rumania Supports A Trieste - Serbia *cut* *nothing to support*
A Vienna - Galicia *bounce*
England :
F North Sea Convoys A Yorkshire - Belgium
F Norwegian Sea - Norway
A Yorkshire - Belgium
France :
A Gascony-Spain
A Spain-Portugal
F Picardy S A Yorkshire-Belgium
Germany :
A RUH - HOL
F DEN - SKA
A KIE - DEN
Italy :
A TRI - BUD
A VEN - TRI
F ION - TUN
Russia :
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden
F Sevastopol - Rumania
A Ukraine - Sevastopol *bounce*
A Warsaw - Galicia *bounce*
Turkey :
A ARM - SEV *bounce*
F ANK - BLA
A BUL S austrian A ALB - GRE *nothing to support*
NATION CENTERS ADJUSTMENT
Italy 6 +3
Austria 2 -1
France 5 +2
England 5 +2
Russia 5 +1
Turkey 4 +1
Germany 5 +2
map:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/fall1901.jpg
The dpy save is at:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/results_FA01.zip
barbu1977
30-04-2004, 19:10
Wow great job Italy.
Is talking alowed before the builds. (I guess no one can verify.)???
IIRC no talking about retreats (according to the manuel) & about builds can be discussed...
barbu1977
30-04-2004, 19:37
quote:Originally posted by ERIKK
IIRC no talking about retreats (according to the manuel) & about builds can be discussed...
What does COL think since he is a regular PBEM diplomacy palyer?
My opinion is that talking happens ALL the time.
sablewyvern
02-05-2004, 10:54
If talking _isn't_ allowed, I'm happy with that, but I don't see any point in setting rules which are basically unenforceable ... IOW, IMO, talking should be allowed.
Socrates
03-05-2004, 09:49
Why didn't I post the adjustment orders yesterday ? Because we're missing both col and Stapel's orders. And yes, both of them should write orders. I will wait until tonight at most, because it seems that deadlines are never respected.
This post will be edited with the orders later.
I did not forget to send orders!
Simply use Realpolitik, and see what happens!
Socrates
03-05-2004, 10:36
Stapel, Realpolitik isn't our absolute reference. You have 3 units and 2 centers : you must disband one of your units yourself, and you have the power to choose which one. Now, if you knew that, it means we have to take out one of your units ourselves, and this process is well described in the pdf file. Still no word of col.
The Diplo manual says if no orders have been recieved the unit the
furtest away form the homneland will be removed first. This is what
happens in Realpolitik: the fleet is disbanded.
quote:Originally posted by kryszcztov
Still no word of col.
Strange, I see he has been online today. [saiyan]
Socrates
03-05-2004, 20:35
adjustment orders for fall 1901 :
Austria :
no orders (fleet disbanded)
England :
Build F Edinburgh
Build F London
France :
+ A Paris
+ A Brest
Germany :
+ A MUN
+ A KIE
Italy :
Italy builds A VEN
Italy builds A ROM
Italy builds F NAP
Russia :
no orders
Turkey :
build a Fleet in Con
Sorry guys - Mother has been in hospital and sometimes RL just has to take precedence.
I'd like to build A Mos but understand if I'm too late.
barbu1977
03-05-2004, 22:14
I say let's keep players in the game as long as possible and let the Tzar make his build.
Does anyone disagree?
tunerica
04-05-2004, 02:54
I have no problem with his build counting.
No problemo in this situation of course!
Build orders:
England Builds F Edinburgh
England Builds F London
France builds A Paris
France builds A Brest
Germany builds A MUN
Germany builds A KIE
Italy builds A VEN
Italy builds A ROM
Italy builds F NAP
Russia builds A Mos
Turkey builds F Con
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/wi01.gif
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How is your German Erikk? Or are you teaching the Austrians to speak Italian? ;)
Dunno, I have to ask Stapel first... [blush]
tunerica
04-05-2004, 12:15
No need to send anyone to Germany to improve your German, Germany will be more than happy to send an ambassador to teach the Italians, will make it much easier to for the Italian people to assimilate to the German way once our military units eventually arrive.
Well, uhhmm, I think you need some Italian friendship ASAP, looking at the Anglo-French cooperation atm...
sablewyvern
04-05-2004, 15:37
Yeah ... just ask the Austrians how pleasant Italian friendship is.
tunerica
04-05-2004, 15:50
Yeah it seems that no one is content with the lands that they own, or the leaders that would command them. They've all seen the great German lands and the illustrious leader that guides them and wish only to become part of the great German Empire. Unfortunately, for those concerned, our current immigration policy states the following: "No applications for residency will be accepted from anyone, the only way to become part of the German dream is to give in to their mighty armies."
[hmm] I do feel like a true German atm..., stampeding into other peoples lands... ;)
Socrates
07-05-2004, 23:00
movement orders for spring 1902 :
Austria :
A Vienna Supports A Rumania - Budapest
A Rumania - Budapest
England :
A Belgium - Ruhr
F Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea
F London - North Sea
F North Sea - Skagerrak
F Norway Supports F North Sea - Skagerrak
France :
A Paris-Burgundy
F Picardy-English Channel
A Portugal-Spain
A Spain-Gascony
A Brest-Picardy
Germany :
F SKA - NOR
A KIE S A HOL
A HOL H
A MUN - RUH
Italy :
Italy A rom - ven
Italy A ven - trl
Italy A bud S russian A ukr - rum
Italy A tri - vie
Italy F nap - tys
Italy F tun - ion
Russia :
F Sev holds
A Mos S F Sev
A Ukr - Rum
A War - Gal
F Swe holds
Turkey :
A arm - sev
A bul - rom
F BLA S A bul - rom
F Con - Aeg
RESULTS SPRING 1902
Spring 02 Remarks:
1) all moves were valid (Allthough Schip made an undoable move to rom.)
2) 5 bounces occured
3) 1 unit must retreat: Austrian A rum
4) 1 unit was destroyed: German F ska
Austria :
A Vienna Supports A Rumania - Budapest *cut*
A Rumania - Budapest *bounce* *dislodged*
England :
A Belgium - Ruhr *bounce*
F Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea
F London - North Sea
F North Sea - Skagerrak
F Norway Supports F North Sea - Skagerrak
France :
A Paris-Burgundy
F Picardy-English Channel
A Portugal-Spain
A Spain-Gascony
A Brest-Picardy
Germany :
F SKA - NOR *bounce* *dislodged* *destroyed*
A KIE S A HOL
A HOL H
A MUN - RUH *bounce*
Italy :
Italy A rom - ven
Italy A ven - trl
Italy A bud S russian A ukr - rum
Italy A tri - vie *bounce*
Italy F nap - tys
Italy F tun - ion
Russia :
F Sev holds
A Mos S F Sev
A Ukr - Rum
A War - Gal
F Swe holds
Turkey :
A arm - sev *bounce*
A bul - rom
F BLA S A bul - rom
F Con - Aeg
Map:
http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/ERIKK/200458132122_result_sp02.jpg
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tunerica
08-05-2004, 14:04
I find it amazing that still no one has taken Serbia. If only there were vacant territories like that at my end of the board. Incidentally, it seems that I should have taken the Italian warnings, things aren't looking too good. Perhaps I need to do an inquiry into my intelligence agencies, they seem to be giving me false information.
quote:Originally posted by tunerica
I find it amazing that still no one has taken Serbia. If only there were vacant territories like that at my end of the board. Incidentally, it seems that I should have taken the Italian warnings, things aren't looking too good. Perhaps I need to do an inquiry into my intelligence agencies, they seem to be giving me false information.
Yeah, the Italian intelligence agency saw the English moves as an
scenario for spring '02. The English naval power looks very good but
the Brits have one flaw: a French fleet in the English Channel will
give them headaches! Hopefully this will stop them from any more
nothern expansion...
On the Balkan front: it wont suprise me when Serbia AND Greece will
not be taken this Fall. The Austrian retreat will affect this matter.
Unfortunally we have to wait and week before continuing the game as
Stapel is on holiday for a week. When he gets back we can arrange a
temporary schedule for fall&winter '02. Or just head on from there and
skip 1 week.
that should have been rUm not rOm stupid me [blush] maybe I need some glasses
tunerica
13-05-2004, 09:04
Are orders still due Friday evening? Cause isn't Stapel away at the moment.
I guess we have to delay an entire week... :( I still need his retreat orders. Skip a week is
the most simple solution.
I'm assuming we are delaying until Bas returns.
Bas just returned. I see there is only one summer 1902 retreat order needed: mine.
So I can give it right here: My dislodged army in Rumania shall go to Serbia. Is that ok, or do you want a more officially written order?
I propose we go on as usual and have a deadline for the fall 02 orders for friday 21th of may!
Kay, it is no suprise it went there. Next deadline is friday.
I will post a map this evening or, if somebody else can do it earlier, please do! :)
I bet next turn wil be exciting!
Current situation:
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Wow! It's very interesting for a noob like me to see another game develop alongside my game. The dynamics are totally different...
Socrates
21-05-2004, 16:50
Only a few hours left for the orders, and I only have received 3 sets so far. So that's 4 players missing. I'm not sure if ERIKK will be tolerant on possibly significant delays.
Socrates
21-05-2004, 22:02
movement orders for fall 1902 :
Austria :
A Serbia Supports A Vienna - Trieste
A Vienna - Trieste
England :
A Belgium - Denmark
F North Sea Convoys A Belgium - Denmark
F Norway - Sweden
F Norwegian Sea Hold
F Skagerrak Supports F Norway - Sweden
France :
A BUR-BEL
F ENG S A BUR-BEL
A GAS-BUR
A PIC S A BUR-BEL
A SPA-GAS
Germany :
F DEN S F SWE
A KIE - BER
MUN H
HOL H
Italy :
F ION - AEG
F TYS - ION
A TRI - SER
A TRL - VIE
A VEN - TRI
A BUD S A TRI - SER
Russia :
A Mos S F Sev
F sev stands
A Rum - Bul
A swe S Ger A Den
A Gal S It A Tri - vie
Turkey :
F AEG - GRE
A BUL S F AEG - GRE
A ARM - SEV
F BLA - RUM
First of all: check your orders! There has been lot's of
'miscommunication' this turn... I bet most of it has been done
deliberately but still; Tunerica, Col check your orders in
Realpolitik before submitting!
- The Austrian army in Serbia must retreat or be disbanded
- The English army in Belgium must retreat or be disbanded
- The Russian fleet in Sweden must retreat or be disbanded
Austria
A Serbia Supports A Vienna - Trieste
A Vienna - Trieste *bounce*
England
A Belgium - Denmark *bounce*
F North Sea Convoys A Belgium - Denmark
F Norway - Sweden
F Norwegian Sea Hold
F Skagerrak Supports F Norway - Sweden
France
A BUR-BEL
F ENG S A BUR-BEL
A GAS-BUR
A PIC S A BUR-BEL
A SPA-GAS
Germany
F DEN S F SWE *invalid*
A KIE - BER
A MUN H
A HOL H
Italy
F ION - AEG
F TYS - ION
A TRI - SER
A TRL - VIE *bounce*
A VEN - TRI *bounce*
A BUD S A TRI - SER
Russia
A Mos S F Sev
F sev H
A Rum - Bul *bounce*
A swe S Ger A Den *invalid*
A Gal S It A Tri - vie
Turkey
F AEG - GRE
A BUL S F AEG - GRE
A ARM - SEV *bounce*
F BLA - RUM *bounce*
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retreat phase:
- Saturday 22:00 CET : deadline for retreat orders, I wont be there to post them (game 1).
Sunday afternoon I will be back in time to post the adjustments.
For the neutral spectator, see my spoiler for some insight on this game's intrigue! Fall 1902
will be recalled as 'the lying season'... [rolleyes]
tunerica
22-05-2004, 04:16
Col, interesting that we both ended up making the same mistake, if in fact it was a mistake. Either way, sorry, next time I will double check my orders. Wouldn't have made any difference though, seems that Turkey was very generous to you. Very strange.
Strange moves!
Italy is interested in which brainwave made England made their 'destined to bounce and fail'
move to Denmark..., which fucked up their army eventually.
Italy is also interested why Turkey blatantly lies and makes a suicide move instead???
For the rest; all other lies known by Italy do make some sense...
Well I guess thats what happens when you submit orders right before the deadline. Two typos in one set of orders. Shit happens.
Never attribute anything to malice which is adequately explained by incompetence.
Sorry folks.
Socrates
23-05-2004, 13:29
retreat orders for fall 1902 :
England :
A Belgium - Ruhr
Russia :
disbands F Swe
Austria :
no order received
fall - winter 1902, pre build orders map:
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Socrates
23-05-2004, 21:56
adjustment orders for winter 1902 :
France :
BUILD A BRE
Germany :
build f kie
Italy :
Italy builds F NAP
Turkey :
build F smy
I sent orders for an A build in St P - check out the disband order.
Socrates
23-05-2004, 22:59
Oops, my bad ! You're right of course. Stupid me.
Winter 1902 adjustments:
France :
BUILD A BRE
Germany :
build f kie
Italy :
build F NAP
Turkey :
build F smy
Russia :
build A StP
Map:
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Zipfile:
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21:00CET, deadline is 22:00CET, we are still missing Sablewyvern and Schip!
I'd like to warn every player that things have changed a bit, so please re-read the stickied topic !!! (The thread called: 'Diplomacy - what you need to remember '.) Basically, all games now have the same rules. Movement and retreat orders are to be sent before 20:00 GMT (that is 22:00CET summer time). Please note the new schedule for adjustment orders : Monday, 12:00 GMT/14:00 CET summer time.
I'd also like to say that we're not happy to see some players missing after the deadlines, and this at almost every deadline. We'll continue to accept delayed set of orders in the near future, but if it continues all the time, then we (Krys and me) might think of being more strict. I hope you'll send them all on time now. And you're welcome to send your orders day(s) before the deadline too.
As always, if anyone isn't happy with all this stuff in this post, please stand up and speak up.
I will update the results thread and will link it to the 'Diplomacy - what you need to remember' thread, with the updated rules.
Krys will post the results sathurday at 08:00 CET. That's the best he can do, the rest of the day he will be gone and we are not gonna wait any longer than that. I hope Sable or Tunerica will read this in time... I hoped we wouldn't get this shit in my game. :(
Socrates
29-05-2004, 01:11
movement orders for spring 1903 :
Austria :
A (Vie) - Tri
England :
F North Sea Supports A Belgium - Holland
F Norwegian Sea - Norway
A Ruhr - Kiel
F Skagerrak - Denmark
F Sweden Supports F Skagerrak - Denmark
France :
A BRE-WAL
F ENG C A BRE-WAL
A BEL-HOL
A PIC-BEL
A BUR-PIC
A GAS-BUR
Germany :
A BER - PRU
F KIE S A DEN
A DEN H
A MUN - SIL
A HOL S FRANCE A BEL
Italy :
F ION - GRE
F NAP - ION
F AEG S Russian A Rum - Bul
A VEN - TRI
A TRL - VIE
A BUD S A TRL - VIE
A SER S Russian A Rum - Bul
Russia :
F Sev H
A Mos S F Sev H
A StP H
A Rum - Bul
A Gal - Rum
Turkey :
A arm - sev
F Smy - Con
F Gre - Aeg
A Bul H
F Bla S A Bul H
Results spring 1903:
We have only 1 retreat. Two units were destroyed! [eek]
Austria :
A Vie - Tri *bounce* *dislodged*
England :
F North Sea Supports A Belgium - Holland
F Norwegian Sea - Norway
A Ruhr - Kiel *bounce*
F Skagerrak - Denmark
F Sweden Supports F Skagerrak - Denmark
France :
A BRE-WAL
F ENG C A BRE-WAL
A BEL-HOL
A PIC-BEL
A BUR-PIC
A GAS-BUR
Germany :
A BER - PRU
F KIE S A DEN *cut*
A DEN H *destroyed*
A MUN - SIL
A HOL S FRANCE A BEL *invalid* *destroyed*
Italy :
F ION - GRE *bounce*
F NAP - ION *bounce*
F AEG S Russian A Rum - Bul *cut*
A VEN - TRI *bounce*
A TRL - VIE
A BUD S A TRL - VIE
A SER S Russian A Rum - Bul
Russia :
F Sev H
A Mos S F Sev H
A StP H
A Rum - Bul *bounce*
A Gal - Rum *bounce*
Turkey :
A arm - sev *bounce*
F Smy - Con
F Gre - Aeg *bounce*
A Bul H
F Bla S A Bul H
Map:
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Save:
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(In the caption of the titlebar in Realpolitik it says winter1902 but it is spring1903. I renamed the file but it looks like Realpolitik has some kind of bug.)
Socrates
30-05-2004, 11:15
retreat orders for spring 1903 :
Austria :
retreat: A VIE - BOH (the only possible option) [note from krys : wrong, it could also have been disbanded, but, hum, doesn't sound like a wise move]
I was not there during the weekend, but I expected this outcome. I did inform the Gamemaster (Erikk) that my A in Vie should rather retreat than be disbanded.
In order words: I did send a retreat order in advance.
Socrates
04-06-2004, 23:14
2 hours after the deadline, Ship-Turkey missing.
Shit - I have ERIKKs moves for this game!!!
I missed my own which is my own fault, but I really hope ERIKKs can be taken as he gave them to me well in advance.
I have PM'd krys with them.
Hmm. It appears ERIKK sent his orders in advance, so I won't bother sending them.
I need to know if he needs retreat orders, but I presume that will appear in this thread in plenty of time for me to post them?
Socrates
05-06-2004, 13:15
orders for fall 1903 :
Austria :
A Bohemia Supports A Galicia - Vienna
England :
F Denmark - North Sea
F North Sea - London
F Norway - Norwegian Sea
A Ruhr - Holland
F Sweden - Norway
France :
A WAL-LVP
A PIC-LON
F ENG C A PIC-LON
A BEL S A HOL
A HOL S A BEL
A BUR-MUN
Germany :
F KIE S ENGLAND F NTH - HOL
A SIL - WAR
A PRU S A SIL - WAR
Italy :
F Aegean Sea - Bulgaria(sc)
A Budapest Supports A Vienna
F Ionian Sea Supports A Serbia - Greece
F Naples - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Serbia - Greece
A Venice - Trieste
A Vienna Supports A Budapest
Russia :
A Galicia Supports A Moscow - Warsaw
A Moscow - Warsaw
A Rumania Supports F Sevastopol
F Sevastopol Hold
A St Petersburg Hold
Turkey :
no orders received
The same rule as in game 1 applies : no orders received = dislodged unit is disbanded (Greece). No retreat. There were several void supports.
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Socrates
07-06-2004, 20:29
adjustment orders for winter 1903 :
Austria :
no orders received : - A BOH
-> Austria is gone
England :
no adjustment
France :
Build F MAR
Build F BRE
Build A PAR
Germany :
no orders received : - F KIE
Italy :
A VEN
A NAP
Russia :
no adjustment
Turkey :
no adjustment
Waiting for ERIKK to confirm and post map and savegame, since he is back. I think that the removal of the German fleet is right, since tunerica is in "civil disorder" (no orders received) ; the rules state that the farthest units from the country have to be removed first, but all 3 units are in the country (thus are equidistant, distance = 0) ; then, fleets are removed before armies.
barbu1977
07-06-2004, 21:22
Realpolitik is removing A - Prussia as default.
I think it is using the house rules of PBEM available on the diplomatic pouch:
http://www.diplom.org/Email/ep.house.rules.txt
9) XIV.4
If a power is required to remove a unit and no valid order is
received, the least recently produced unit that is not at a supply
center will be disbanded. This is the first one listed on the
reports which will be the one most likely to be furthest away from
a home supply center. (However, in any case NMR is prohibited by above
rules, so this change should have no effect.)
In my oppinion, this makes more sense. An altermate way to find the army farthest away would be to add up the army's position from the 3 suply centers. In this case: Kiel = 2 Prussia = 5, Sil = 4. Therefore removing the prussia army.
I'll let these toughts to the moderator.
I agree. We have to remove the army. But I am interested in what Tunerica has to say.
Socrates
08-06-2004, 02:00
Well, I think we've already talked about the rules. But it's your game. After all.
It are the Avalon Hill rules, but with an enhancement for PBEM games.
After all, the game is in essence a board game. I see no problem
here. What's your problem Krys?
RealPolitik seems to remove the army too.
I am not posting the map yet. We have had two NMR's this season:
- Schip doesn't submit his moves and does not post in the Diplo forum why
he did not submit those moves but does post in thge KoD forum on his c3c
Deity games... Feels like a big 'fuck you' in your face, right?
- Tunerica doesn't submit a disband order. This isn't that bad. The rulebook
says fleets are disbanded first when units are on equal distance. In the
diplo PBEM world there are different rules but we agreed on following the
rulebook (so I think Krys is right in this matter).
Still, it would have been nice if the person involved simply dropped a line.
...AFAIK everyone accepted the schedules we proposed...
I would like to check if all players are still dedicated to this game: if you
read back this thread there is a lot of stuff on missing moves and crossed
deadlines, exactly like in the other game. Also, I hardly have had any diplo
in this game. Almost every time I had some it was of ME contacting a 'bussy' or
'away' MSN contact. It was ME sending out PM's. I have hardly had any email
diplo and sometimes my emails aren't even replied on. Krys has the same experiece
in his game.
You see, I am not having any fun anymore and am wondering why I should put more
energy in this game. I will continue when I can be sure we wont get anymore NMR's
and people start sending their moves on (the accepted) schedule. Also, if you
can't make the deadline you can at least tell us in advance, we have shown to be
easy going last months. Every fucking week Krys and me are in the dark about people
not making a deadline in one of the two games.
So, post if you want this game to continue. All of the players! If I don't
hear from you I consider you out of the game. I am not playing to get irritated
every week. This may sound harsh but I don't like to get a 'NMR thank you' for all
the hours I (and Krys) have put in this game. (I must say things are far worse in
game #1 btw.)
For when the message is still not clear: I won't continue a game when the
chances on getting a NMR every week is present... NMR's fuck up the game!
Only having one unit left... Probably gone soon!
Would be happy to take over another's units!
Game on!
quote:Originally posted by kryszcztov
adjustment orders for winter 1903 :
Austria :
no orders received : - A BOH
-> Austria is gone
1. You should collect and publicate orders, never ever draw conclusions. That is up to the game master.
2. I did ask Erikk to fill in the retreat for me, if possible/necisary.
It doesn't make a difference anyway, since I am gone anyway. But still.
barbu1977
08-06-2004, 13:37
I'm in, I still have to kick Sablewyvern's butt.
But when he's dead, I plan to NMR the rest of the game [fdevil]
Seriously, whe have had nice diplo up north. I hope to see the outcome of the game. But like Erikk said, If people are not commited, we migth want to stop. I had hoped that people from this site were commited to their games. Of course, it is easy to be on time when things are going well, but you see the real commitement of a player when things go bad.
Only Turkey really messed up in this game. And only once, I think.
Furthermore, Tunerica/Germany failed to post retreat orders.
It sucks, but it is not too bad!
quote:Originally posted by Stapel
Only Turkey really messed up in this game. And only once, I think.
Furthermore, Tunerica/Germany failed to post retreat orders.
It sucks, but it is not too bad!
Yup, but I did a review on last seasons. We have had many people
posting the moves too late. I am also talking about the other game
by the way. I am involved in both.
Krys and me are left in the dark too many times. We are near the
point that we consider 1 minute too late a NMR. In that case both
games will be over soon if you take last seasons logs in account.
It is time speak up and ring the alarm bells. I am out of these
games if it stays this way...
Maybe a 2-week schedule would be better?
Another solution is posting profissonal moves in the beginning of the week.
Winter 1903 moves resolved:
I followed Krys' conclusion on the disband issue.
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Socrates
08-06-2004, 19:28
A 2-week schedule isn't the solution, me thinks. It will double the games' length (which is already not going that fast !), and I doubt players will then be on time. I must add my support to ERIKK's post, but I still wish people will behave better by themselves in the near future.
BTW, game #1 has already been so messed up, that I'm not too far from considering it a "test game", though it's a pure personal opinion, and the winner of this game will really win "a" game. You get the idea. Everyone knows it, but I can say it again : I felt sorry for taking Venice in the 1st year, but since Italy was out...
Now, if people start to submit orders on time, it will prove that CDZ can host other games after these two.
tunerica
09-06-2004, 04:16
Seems that people are not really all that happy with me not putting moves in. First of all, this is the first time that I haven't put orders in, secondly, I haven't had time because I have been studying for exams, and because of this and the fact that if I don't put an order in a unit get removed (as stated by the rules), I didn't forsee it having that big an impact (and it didn't really). I am happy to continue the game, even though my position is screwed up.
sablewyvern
09-06-2004, 12:15
I'm happy to continue.
This game isn't high on my list of priorities (and, to be honest, I won't be upset if it is canned), however, I plan to get orders in when required (I've been a few hours late on one occasion) and basically continue as I have been.
I'll even continue to submit orders if my situation becomes untenable.
As for press ... I haven't been sending as much as a truly serious and experienced player would, but it's been enough to get me where I am and to have a decent grasp of the bigger picture.
hi all. All I can say is sorry, I really forgot to put in my moves. I missed Erik's post earlier on and I was under the impression that I could continue the game, accepting the situation as it was. I should have posted earlier, and I still want to continue playing.
That's it. All responded (Col pm'd) and want to continue. I assume we won't be having
any problems anymore with orders issued too late. If someone can't make it, please let
us know. Also, sending a profissional set early in the week can help. I already sent mine.
Weekly standard schedule (all times GMT):
- Monday, after results are posted : turn starts ;
- Friday, 20:00 : deadline for movement orders ;
- Friday, after 20:00 : results are posted on CDZ ;
- Saturday, 20:00 : deadline for retreat orders ;
- Saturday, after 20:00 : retreats are posted on CDZ ;
- Monday, 12:00 : deadline for adjustment orders (falls) ;
- Monday, after 12:00 : adjustments are posted on CDZ (falls),
turn ends, next turn starts.
No moves posted yet as we are waiting for Sable to send his moves. We are 2 hours
late now, gonna wait some more...
Please have patience.
sablewyvern
12-06-2004, 03:13
Sincere apologies, that was very bad form on my behalf.
Orders are in.
Socrates
12-06-2004, 12:06
movement orders for spring 1904 :
England :
F Denmark - Helgoland Bight
F North Sea - London
F Norway - North Sea
F Norwegian Sea - Edinburgh
A Ruhr - Burgundy
France :
F ENG C A PIC-LON
A LVP-WAL
F BRE-MAO
A PAR-BUR
A HOL S A BEL
A BEL S A HOL
A MUN S A PAR-BUR
F MAR H
Germany :
A SIL - MUN
A PRU - BUR
Italy :
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople
A Budapest - Vienna
A Greece Supports Russian A Rumania - Bulgaria
F Ionian Sea - Eastern Mediterranean
A Naples Hold
A Trieste - Serbia
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea
A Venice - Tyrolia
A Vienna - Bohemia
Russia :
A Galicia Hold
A Moscow - Ukraine
A Rumania - Bulgaria
F Sevastopol - Black Sea
A St Petersburg - Livonia
Turkey :
A Bul - Ser
F Con - Aeg
A arm - Smy
F Bla - Bul
RESULTS SPRING 1904
A number of bounces occurred.
No retreats.
One unit destroyed.
England :
F Denmark - Helgoland Bight
F North Sea - London
F Norway - North Sea
F Norwegian Sea - Edinburgh
A Ruhr - Burgundy *bounce*
France :
F ENG C A PIC-LON *no order for A PIC recieved/would have bounced anyway*
A LVP-WAL
F BRE-MAO
A PAR-BUR *bounce*
A HOL S A BEL
A BEL S A HOL
A MUN S A PAR-BUR *cut*
F MAR H
Germany :
A SIL - MUN *bounce*
A PRU - BUR *bounce/impossible*
Italy :
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople *bounce*
A Budapest - Vienna
A Greece Supports Russian A Rumania - Bulgaria
F Ionian Sea - Eastern Mediterranean
A Naples Hold
A Trieste - Serbia *bounce*
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea
A Venice - Tyrolia
A Vienna - Bohemia
Russia :
A Galicia Hold
A Moscow - Ukraine
A Rumania - Bulgaria
F Sevastopol - Black Sea *bounce*
A St Petersburg - Livonia
Turkey :
A Bul - Ser *bounce* *dislodged* *destroyed*
F Con - Aeg *bounce*
A arm - Smy
F Bla - Bul *bounce*
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REMINDER
Deadline for movement orders is tomorrow 20:00 GMT!
Socrates
19-06-2004, 00:31
Advertisement :
We need a replacement player for game #1's Russia !! Toasty can't play anymore, so if one of you could play as him until the end of the game, that would ease our job. Take a look at the situation now, and engage. If someone takes Russia very quickly, then we would set up a special schedule for the replacement player to get into the game.
"I want you for game #1's Russian army !!" :D
Socrates
19-06-2004, 00:34
movement orders for fall 1904 :
England :
F Edinburgh - Clyde
F Helgoland Bight Supports A Ruhr - Kiel
F London Hold
F North Sea Supports F London
A Ruhr - Kiel
France :
A WAL-NAF
F ENG C A WAL-NAF
F MAO C A WAL-NAF
F MAR-LYO
A MUN H
A HOL-KIE
A PAR-GAS
A PIC-BUR
A BEL S A PIC-BUR
Germany :
A Prussia - Berlin
A Silesia Supports A Prussia - Berlin
Italy :
F Aegean Sea - Smyrna
A Bohemia Supports A Tyrolia - Munich
F Eastern Mediterranean Supports F Aegean Sea - Smyrna
A Greece - Serbia
F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Naples - Rome
A Trieste - Vienna
A Tyrolia - Munich
A Vienna - Tyrolia
Russia :
A Bulgaria - Constantinople
A Galicia - Warsaw
A Livonia Supports A Galicia - Warsaw
F Sevastopol - Black Sea
A Ukraine - Rumania
Turkey :
F con - aeg
A Smy - con
F bla - sev
RESULTS FALL 1904 MOVES
There were some suprising moves this turn!
England :
F Edinburgh - Clyde
F Helgoland Bight Supports A Ruhr - Kiel
F London Hold
F North Sea Supports F London
A Ruhr - Kiel
France :
A WAL-NAF
F ENG C A WAL-NAF
F MAO C A WAL-NAF
F MAR-LYO
A MUN H *dislodged* *retreat*
A HOL-KIE *bounce*
A PAR-GAS
A PIC-BUR
A BEL S A PIC-BUR
Germany :
A Prussia - Berlin
A Silesia Supports A Prussia - Berlin
Italy :
F Aegean Sea - Smyrna
A Bohemia Supports A Tyrolia - Munich
F Eastern Mediterranean Supports F Aegean Sea - Smyrna
A Greece - Serbia
F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Naples - Rome
A Trieste - Vienna
A Tyrolia - Munich
A Vienna - Tyrolia
Russia :
A Bulgaria - Constantinople
A Galicia - Warsaw
A Livonia Supports A Galicia - Warsaw
F Sevastopol - Black Sea *bounce*
A Ukraine - Rumania
Turkey :
F con - aeg
A Smy - con *bounce* *dislodged* *retreat*
F bla - sev *bounce*
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Saturday, 20:00 : deadline for retreat orders
France and Turkey have to submit a retreat order. I can post the
retreats Sunday morning on CDZ
Monday, 12:00 : deadline for adjustment orders
England, Italy and Russia have builds, Turkey, Germany and France
must disband a unit. The build results will be posted on Monday.
REMINDER
AFAIK no retreat orders were recieved which means both armies have been destroyed. Italy, England and Russia have a couple of hours to PM their builds. Germany needs to submit a disband order.
Builds cant be sent until the retreats have been posted!! We need to know where units are before we decide builds. (Provisional build was Pmed to Krys last night)
As I said: no retreats have been recieved - the two units are therefore destoyed!
France and Turkey are on par, they don't need to issue a disband anymore.
Socrates
21-06-2004, 13:33
Sablewyvern sent me a retreat order, but more than 24 hours after the deadline.
Winter 1904 adjustment orders :
England :
Build A Edinburgh
France :
no adjustment
Germany :
remove a sil
Italy :
Italy builds:
A VEN
F NAP
Russia :
Fleet in St P please. (do I have to specify coast?) in which case south coast. [col, I hope it was a joke ! [crazyeye] ]
Turkey :
no adjustment
The France order is ignored as it was far too late. Also, we have no
disband order from him anyway (if he does retreat he must disband a
unit and is too late for that too).
Winter 1904:
ENG: build A EDI
FRA: no adjustment
GER: Remove A SIL
ITA: build A VEN, F NAP
RUS: build F StP(sc)
TUR: no adjustment
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spring Austria England France Germany Italy Russia Turkey
1901 03 03 03 03 03 04 03
1902 02 05 05 05 06 05 04
1903 01 05 06 05 07 05 05
1904 00 05 09 02 09 05 04
1905 00 06 08 01 11 06 02
1906
1907
1908
1909
1910
1911
1912
1913
1914
1915
1916
1917
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Socrates
21-06-2004, 14:35
Well, to be very precise, sablewyvern sent me a "retreat & disband" combo order, and so I had to ignore both orders, since the retreat was too late and the disband then wasn't needed. Players have to know that adjustments are separate orders from retreats.
Not that I am part of this game, but isn't that a little strict?
If the retreat was only just past the deadline I would (personally) take it, and if *any* order is too early can it not just be kept for when it is needed?
I'm not trying to cause trouble, but trying to understand that people can't always hit the deadlines.
Well, I thought he ignored posting a retreat because he had to disband a unit anyway. I did not know he had sent a separate disband order. Now I know for sure I possibly fucked his strategy.
I thought it wouldn't matter not waiting for him any longer because of the above. Anyway, we DID wait one day for him...
I dont feel bad about this. If Sable or others have problems with it, let me know!
REMINDER
Today 20:00GMT: deadline for movement orders.
Saturday 20:00GMT: deadline for retreat orders.
You might wonder where the results are from fiday evening. We havent posted them yet because we
miss Sable and Schip. They have been contacted by PM 24h ago but still no word yet. This sucks
very much of course. We are closing the absolute deadline when I go over to a NMR for both and
start looking for replacements...
Remember the posts I made a couple of weeks ago? [rolleyes]
Socrates
27-06-2004, 21:27
Spring 1905 movement orders :
England :
F Clyde - Norwegian Sea
A Edinburgh - Yorkshire
F Helgoland Bight Supports A Kiel
A Kiel Supports A Berlin - Munich
F London - North Sea
F North Sea - Skagerrak
France :
no orders received !
Germany :
a ber - mun
Italy :
A Bohemia Supports A Munich
F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
A Munich Hold
F Naples Supports F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
A Rome Hold
A Serbia - Greece
F Smyrna Supports A Bulgaria - Constantinople
A Tyrolia Supports A Munich
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Tunis
A Venice - Piedmont
A Vienna - Trieste
Russia :
A Bulgaria - Constantinople
A Livonia - Prussia
A Rumania - Bulgaria
F Sevastopol - Black Sea
F St Petersburg(sc) - Gulf of Bothnia
A Warsaw - Silesia
Turkey :
no orders received !
Still nothing from Schip and Sable...
They NMR'd this turn and I will not proceed with the game until we find some replacements.
Of course I am utterly disappointed atm... :(
It sometimes happens that players start to NMR when they are close to elimination - but to NMR in a strong position is unusual.
Well, AFAIK they both disappeared...
This game is on hold until I have sorted out what's going on.
Socrates
28-06-2004, 18:34
Schip replied that he won't continue the game, unless to help other players. I think we are right to search for a replacement. I know one guy ready to take this spot (if he still agrees of course). So, mysterious player, make your apparition !!! :D
Maybe tunerica knows whatever happened to him roommate Sable...
tunerica
29-06-2004, 08:16
He forgot about it as far as I know. Not sure what he intends to do.
I can play, if either of the missing players do not wish to continue.
I find it very disturbing we hear nothing from Sable. The only way I can
take this is assuming he has quit and disappeared.
Forgetting to submit and not replying in this thread or on Krys' PM's is
a real shame. Let alone the posts I made a couple of weeks ago about
fucking up the game.
Sable is out!
(I wonder how sable is able to play his 10 other Diplo games over at
diplobounce...) [rolleyes]
Anarres if you want to, you can take over France. We need someone else to
play Turkey, which is near dead and wont consume too many time from the
player.
Just to bring you up to date then Anarres, you're allied with Russia against the rest of the world.
I will ask Beam to take over Turkey's last years. Anyone knows the fate
of Turkey: they are bound to be eliminated so it wont be much hassle for
him.
Of course if some other RELIEABLE player wants to play Turkey, you
are my very welcome guest! :)
I will update the results thread soon and create a temporary schedule.
Planning last weekends retreats in the coming weekend and do fall 1905 1 week later.
Unless all oppose and want to do the fall 1905 moves coming friday?
ERIKK, I would assume something has happened to Sable, rather than him just not being bothered. To give up when you are this strong does not indicate you can't be bothered with the game!
Oh, everyone PM me to say hi - especially if you want my help. ;)
Since you already posted the Spring 1905 orders I guess you need to put them in the results thread and tell us the next deadline?
Wow anarres, you are lazy: read up before posting!
On the assuming:
Read 3+ posts up anarres! Tunerica's post indicates he forgot his moves but did not tell us. I am fed up with this. We waited two days before posting the other moves and I waited replacing him until I heard something from him (and Schip). I haven't heard anythig from him yet but only the things Tunerica told us, which arent very reassuring.
On the schedule:
Read 2 posts up anarres!
Socrates
29-06-2004, 12:21
Congratulations, anarres (he was the mysterious replacement player) !! I don't think Beam wants to replace anyone in Diplo these days, but just ask him a 2nd time if you want to.
About the schedule, well, spring 1905 movements have been played, and so there are only retreats to be made (if there are any). I suggest ERIKK solved the turn now, and asked for retreat orders by tonight or tomorrow. And then go on with the usual schedule this week-end for fall 1905.
Beam will do Turkey.
I will post the results and schedule soon!
Erikk just asked me to play Turkey and since that basically comes down to keeping two ships floating I think I can handle that given the workschedule.
What's the next deadline and what should be submitted by that time?
SCHEDULE:
- there are no retreats
- next move: fall 1905 moves are due next Friday 2nd july 20:00 GMT
- orders are submitted by a PM to Krys!
England :
F Clyde - Norwegian Sea
A Edinburgh - Yorkshire
F Helgoland Bight Supports A Kiel
A Kiel Supports A Berlin - Munich
F London - North Sea
F North Sea - Skagerrak
France :
no orders received !
Germany :
a ber - mun *bounce*
Italy :
A Bohemia Supports A Munich
F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
A Munich Hold
F Naples Supports F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
A Rome Hold
A Serbia - Greece
F Smyrna Supports A Bulgaria - Constantinople
A Tyrolia Supports A Munich
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Tunis
A Venice - Piedmont
A Vienna - Trieste
Russia :
A Bulgaria - Constantinople
A Livonia - Prussia
A Rumania - Bulgaria
F Sevastopol - Black Sea *bounce*
F St Petersburg(sc) - Gulf of Bothnia
A Warsaw - Silesia
Turkey :
no orders received !
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To the new players: you deserve a tiny insight on the current state of the affairs
Here is a short recap from the Italian perspective:
- Austria has been stabbed by Italy and has been destroyed
- Turkey is under attack by Russia, who are supported by the Italians
- England and France attacked Germany but some seasons ago France stabbed England
- France and Italy were friends but in fall 1904 France moved into the Western Med
and Italy attacked the France in Munchen.
- Russia and England have been leaving each other alone in the north
- Spring 1905 Germany and England colaberated against Italy
- Russian and English troop buildup in Scandinavia and central/north Europe
Situation winter 1904 - spring 1905 (from the Italian perspective):
Turkey is at war with Italy and Russia
Italy is at war with England, France, Turkey and Germany
Russia is at war with Turkey and Germany and possibly England
England is at war with Italy and possibly France and Russia
France is at war with Italy and Germany and possibly England
Germany is at war with France, Italy and Russia
Hey - Russia has never attacked Germany or been attacked by Germany. Yet.
Not true (I think), IIRC Germany went for Warsaw some seasons ago...
Don't remember if it resulted in some bounces or so. I could be wrong of course.
Ah - that was just ahem a misunderstanding.
barbu1977
29-06-2004, 14:34
Just a little note here. I'm a little unhappy by the fact that the NMR was accepted at this point of the game giving a one turn advantage to countries at war with the NMR. If known that 2 players were late, I think no movenent orders should have been made and the turn replayed with the new players.
I understand that this is a little to late now and I'm willing to continue the game to the end.
Well, ehhmm it's kind of difficult of course with all the moves presented yet...
We can replay the entire turn but that would affect the game too as Beam and anarres already know what is going to happen.
I dont want to be a spoil sport: let's vote on it!
I will abstain in this vote:
Replay turn (yes/no/abstain):
Barbu: yes
ERIKK: abstain
Beam:
anarres:
Col:
Tunerica:
Krys:
(majority wins)
I vote no. Replaying the turn could really fuck up some people that have revealed their intentions.
barbu1977
29-06-2004, 15:32
I think my post was miss understood. I do not think that replaying the turn is the thing to do (although I would not mind). I was just expressing that I would have liked things to be done differently. Nevet the less I fully accept what has been done and ready to play.
Socrates
29-06-2004, 15:36
quote:Originally posted by anarres
I vote no. Replaying the turn could really fuck up some people that have revealed their intentions.
I don't take part in this game, but that is the reason why I think turns shouldn't be replayed after orders have been posted : players have "shown" their intentions, and so that would fuck up the game more than a few NMR's. I understand that some feel spoiled (I was both advantaged and disadvantaged in game #1 by NMR's), but otherwise we would have to delay the game by one week each time someone forgets to send his orders and doesn't react in a couple of days. Hopefully, by the end of games #1 and 2, the "reliability" level for Diplo will rise... ;)
Well, I think all is cleared now. It is good to hear other peoples opinions on things like this.
Indeed it sucks as some have advantage over these NMR and that is clearly why I hate this
situation so much. The 'NMR people' fuck up the game for the others: I won't enter a game with
Toasty, Sable, Schip or Melifuous anymore... A Krys says; my next game will be with people high
on the 'reliability' level. ;)
We will stick to the schedule as stated earlier.
I vote no too - if I'd known in advance about the NMR i'd have done things differently so I dont think the basic premise is valid.
The only time you can do this is before the moves have been revealed. Substitute players arent ideal either but the best that can be done. All that diplo and misdirection goes to waste in many cases and you start all over again.
REMINDER
Fall 1905 orders are due 20:00GMT this evening.
PM them to Krys.
Submitted orders to krys last night.
Socrates
03-07-2004, 11:06
Fall 1905 movement orders :
England :
F Helgoland Bight Supports A Kiel
A Kiel Supports A Berlin
F North Sea Convoys A Yorkshire - Norway
F Norwegian Sea - Barents Sea
F Skagerrak - Sweden
A Yorkshire - Norway
France :
A Belgium - Ruhr
A Burgundy - Munich
F English Channel - London
A Gascony - Marseilles
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Gascony - Marseilles
A Holland Hold
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - North Atlantic Ocean
A North Africa - Tunis
Germany :
A Ber H
Italy :
A Bohemia Supports A Munich
A Greece Hold
F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Munich Hold
F Naples Supports F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Piedmont - Marseilles
A Rome - Tuscany
F Smyrna Supports A Constantinople
A Trieste Hold
F Tunis - North Africa
A Tyrolia Supports A Munich
Russia :
A Bulgaria - Rumania
A Constantinople Hold
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden
A Prussia - Berlin
F Sevastopol - Rumania
A Silesia Supports A Prussia - Berlin
Turkey :
F Bla > Ank
F Aeg > Con
FALL 1905 MOVES:
England:
F Helgoland Bight Supports A Kiel
A Kiel Supports A Berlin
F North Sea Convoys A Yorkshire - Norway
F Norwegian Sea - Barents Sea
F Skagerrak - Sweden *bounce*
A Yorkshire - Norway
France:
A Belgium - Ruhr
A Burgundy - Munich *bounce*
F English Channel - London
A Gascony - Marseilles
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Gascony - Marseilles
A Holland Hold
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - North Atlantic Ocean
A North Africa - Tunis *bounce*
Germany:
A Ber H
Italy:
A Bohemia Supports A Munich
A Greece Hold
F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Munich Hold
F Naples Supports F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Piedmont - Marseilles *bounce*
A Rome - Tuscany
F Smyrna Supports A Constantinople
A Trieste Hold
F Tunis - North Africa *bounce*
A Tyrolia Supports A Munich
Russia:
A Bulgaria - Rumania *bounce*
A Constantinople Hold
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden
A Prussia - Berlin *bounce*
F Sevastopol - Rumania *bounce*
A Silesia Supports A Prussia - Berlin
Turkey:
F Bla - Ank
F Aeg - Con *bounce*
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Retreats
There are NO retreats
Adjustments:
Austria 0
England -1
France +1
Germany 0
Italy 0
Russia +1
Turkey -1
Saturday july 3th, 20:00 GMT: deadline for retreat orders
Monday july 5th, 12:00 GMT: deadline for adjustment orders
Can we *please* get the adjustment orders from anarres and beam?
PM'ed to krys, apo for the delay [blush2]
barbu1977
06-07-2004, 14:31
I'll be away for the weekend and back only sunday night. I won't ba able to post any retreats before then. Since there are no adjustments this season, I propose to use the adjustment deadline for retreats.
Don't worry, we will keep that in mind Barbu. If you have to retreat we will use the adjustment deadline, if not then we will use the regular schedule.
(All adjustments for winter 1905 are in but Krys hasn't been able to post them yet.)
Socrates
06-07-2004, 18:13
Yeah, I was kinda sick today... :D [blush2] Really been unable to open my PC until now.
Winter 1905 adjustment orders :
England :
Remove F Skagerrak
France :
Fleet in Brest please
Russia :
Fleet in St P
Turkey :
Disband F aeg.
Winter 1905:
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spring Austria England France Germany Italy Russia Turkey
1901 03 03 03 03 03 04 03
1902 02 05 05 05 06 05 04
1903 01 05 06 05 07 05 05
1904 00 05 09 02 09 05 04
1905 00 06 08 01 11 06 02
1906 00 05 09 01 11 07 01
1907
1908
1909
1910
1911
1912
1913
1914
1915
1916
1917
1918
1919
1920
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Socrates
09-07-2004, 23:03
I know we're not supposed to give names away, but anyway the deadline was crossed. We broke a record !! [party] Only 3 players sent their orders on time this time. Of course I'll wait for more orders before posting them here. :D I hope game #1 is better than that...
In a couple of hours I will be gone till sunday evening. As we have only 1/2 of the needed orders
the retreats deadline must be postphoned (also Barbu isnt around for retreats)...
Anyway, sent those damn orders! [mad2] Is it that hard to live up to
damn deadline when you have 5 days to respond????
Quite annoying indeed....
Socrates
11-07-2004, 00:03
Spring 1906 movement orders :
England :
F Barents Sea - Norwegian Sea
F Helgoland Bight - Holland
A Kiel Supports F Helgoland Bight - Holland
F North Sea - English Channel
A Norway - St Petersburg
France :
F Brest - English Channel
A Burgundy Supports A Ruhr
F Gulf of Lyon - Western Mediterranean
A Holland - Kiel
F London - Yorkshire
A Marseilles Hold
F North Atlantic Ocean - Norwegian Sea
A North Africa Hold
A Ruhr Supports A Holland - Kiel
Germany :
A ber H
Italy :
A Bohemia Supports A Tyrolia - Munich
A Greece - Serbia
A Munich - Kiel
F Naples - Ionian Sea
A Piedmont Hold
F Smyrna - Aegean Sea
A Trieste Hold
F Tunis - Western Mediterranean
A Tuscany Supports A Piedmont
A Tyrolia - Munich
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Tunis
Russia :
A Bulgaria - Constantinople
A Constantinople - Smyrna
F Gulf of Bothnia Supports F St Petersburg(sc)
A Prussia Supports A Silesia - Berlin
F Sevastopol - Black Sea
A Silesia - Berlin
F St Petersburg(sc) Hold
Turkey :
Fleet holds in Ankara
Wow, I'm gonna need to know how Holland / Kiel gets resolved, some pretty complex stuff there!
Socrates
11-07-2004, 01:47
Nah, still quite simple ! Didn't open RealPolitik, but here is my guess :
Looking at all the units involved in the scenery, there are 2 supports : one from Ruhr which isn't cut, and one from Kiel which is cut (by Munich at least). The unit in Holland goes to Kiel with its support, because it's a 2 to 1, and Munich is only a(nother) 1. The unit in Heligoland Bight goes to Holland, unsupported, because it was freed. And there it is. The unit in Kiel will have to retreat...
Even with no attack from Munich, it would have been the same.
England:
F Barents Sea - Norwegian Sea (*Bounce*)
F Helgoland Bight - Holland
A Kiel Supports F Helgoland Bight - Holland (*Dislodged*)
F North Sea - English Channel (*Bounce*)
A Norway - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
France:
F Brest - English Channel (*Bounce*)
A Burgundy Supports A Ruhr
F Gulf of Lyon - Western Mediterranean (*Bounce*)
A Holland - Kiel
F London - Yorkshire
A Marseilles Hold
F North Atlantic Ocean - Norwegian Sea (*Bounce*)
A North Africa Hold
A Ruhr Supports A Holland - Kiel
Germany:
A Berlin Hold (*Disbanded*)
Italy:
A Bohemia Supports A Tyrolia - Munich (*Fails*)
A Greece - Serbia
A Munich - Kiel (*Fails*)
F Naples - Ionian Sea
A Piedmont Hold
F Smyrna - Aegean Sea
A Trieste Hold
F Tunis - Western Mediterranean (*Bounce*)
A Tuscany Supports A Piedmont
A Tyrolia - Munich (*Fails*)
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Tunis (*Fails*)
Russia:
A Bulgaria - Constantinople
A Constantinople - Smyrna
F Gulf of Bothnia Supports F St Petersburg(sc)
A Prussia Supports A Silesia - Berlin
F Sevastopol - Black Sea
A Silesia - Berlin
F St Petersburg(sc) Hold
Turkey:
F Ankara Hold
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SCHEDULE
Retreats
English A KIE
Adjustments:
No adjustments
Monday july 5th, 12:00 GMT: deadline for retreat orders (Barbu is away Sunday)
barbu1977
12-07-2004, 00:18
Since I am the only one to retreat, I'll post it here.
England:
A Kiel - Denmark
Had it been a fall move, England might have chosen the fast route home - disband and rebuild - but that move might have been assumed by default.
quote:Originally posted by col
Had it been a fall move, England might have chosen the fast route home - disband and rebuild - but that move might have been assumed by default.
But it wasn't a fall move ;)
To all: dont forget to post your moves today! [nono]
Socrates
17-07-2004, 10:04
Sent a PM to tunerica, but just realized he was out of the game. Anyway I had to wait for col.
Fall 1906 movement orders :
England :
F Barents Sea - Norwegian Sea
A Denmark Supports F Holland - Kiel
F Holland - Kiel
F North Sea - Edinburgh
A Norway - Sweden
France :
F Brest - English Channel
A Burgundy - Belgium
F Gulf of Lyon - Western Mediterranean
A Kiel Supports A Ruhr - Holland
A Marseilles Hold
F North Atlantic Ocean - Clyde
A North Africa - Tunis
A Ruhr - Holland
F Yorkshire - Edinburgh
Italy :
F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea
A Bohemia Supports A Tyrolia - Munich
F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Munich - Ruhr
A Piedmont Hold
A Serbia Hold
A Trieste - Budapest
F Tunis - Western Mediterranean
A Tuscany Supports A Piedmont
A Tyrolia - Munich
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Tunis
Russia :
A Berlin - Kiel
F Black Sea Hold
A Constantinople Supports A Smyrna - Ankara
F Gulf of Bothnia Supports F St Petersburg(sc)
A Prussia - Berlin
A Smyrna - Ankara
F St Petersburg(sc) Hold
Turkey :
F Ankara - Constantinople
FALL 1906 MOVES:
England:
F Barents Sea - Norwegian Sea
A Denmark Supports F Holland - Kiel
F Holland - Kiel
F North Sea - Edinburgh (*Bounce*)
A Norway - Sweden
France:
F Brest - English Channel
A Burgundy - Belgium
F Gulf of Lyon - Western Mediterranean (*Bounce*)
A Kiel Supports A Ruhr - Holland (*Disbanded*)
A Marseilles Hold
F North Atlantic Ocean - Clyde
A North Africa - Tunis (*Bounce*)
A Ruhr - Holland
F Yorkshire - Edinburgh (*Bounce*)
Italy:
F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
A Bohemia Supports A Tyrolia - Munich
F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Fails*)
A Munich - Ruhr
A Piedmont Hold
A Serbia Hold
A Trieste - Budapest
F Tunis - Western Mediterranean (*Bounce*)
A Tuscany Supports A Piedmont
A Tyrolia - Munich
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Tunis (*Bounce*)
Russia:
A Berlin - Kiel (*Fails*)
F Black Sea Hold
A Constantinople Supports A Smyrna - Ankara
F Gulf of Bothnia Supports F St Petersburg(sc)
A Prussia - Berlin (*Fails*)
A Smyrna - Ankara
F St Petersburg(sc) Hold
Turkey:
F Ankara - Constantinople (*Dislodged*)
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SCHEDULE
Retreats
Russia F ANK (he dies)
no other retreats
Adjustments:
Austria 0
England 0
France +1
Germany 0
Italy 0
Russia +2
Turkey -1
Monday july 5th, 12:00 GMT: deadline for build orders
er I hope that a Turkish fleet that just died. :)
barbu1977
21-07-2004, 14:21
Is there a movement order due on friday?
We're still waiting to find out the builds!!
Whats happening??
I sent my build orders to krys ages ago...
Well Krys, why are we still waiting?
Anyway, the deadline is on friday, as usual. I see the date of the build orders is wrong but I
don't think that's why we don't have any build orders in yet. I guess Krys has simply forgotten
to post them.
I guess I'm relieved from sending orders? ;)
I just PM'd krys to see what is happening.
Socrates
21-07-2004, 17:02
WTF ??? Mega [blush2] ! Yeah I forgot, and yeah I deleted those PMs a few hours ago... [aargh] The constant delays must have mixed up my mind. I'm so sorry, but I see that I only need anarres and col's orders. Please send them to me as soon as possible. Expect the results tonight.
SHIT!!
[lol] I accidentally posted my order instead of PM'ing it. [rolleyes]
Socrates
21-07-2004, 18:44
Sorry again... Winter 1906 adjustment orders :
France :
Army in Paris
Russia :
armies in Warsaw and Moscow
Thanks! :)
Will post a map and a save tonight.
WINTER 1906
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Next deadline is the regular fridaynight again. :)
Socrates
23-07-2004, 22:56
Spring 1907 movement orders :
England :
A Denmark - Kiel
F Kiel - Baltic Sea
F North Sea - Edinburgh
F Norwegian Sea Supports F North Sea - Edinburgh
A Sweden - Finland
France :
A Belgium - Ruhr
F Clyde Supports F Yorkshire - Edinburgh
F English Channel - London
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Marseilles - Piedmont
A Holland Supports A Belgium - Ruhr
A Marseilles - Piedmont
A North Africa - Tunis
A Paris - Burgundy
F Yorkshire - Edinburgh
Italy :
F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea
A Bohemia - Munich
A Budapest - Vienna
F Ionian Sea - Tunis
A Munich - Burgundy
A Piedmont Hold
A Ruhr Supports A Munich - Burgundy
A Serbia Hold
F Tunis - Western Mediterranean
A Tuscany Supports A Piedmont
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Tunis - Western Mediterranean
Russia :
A Ankara - Sevastopol
A Berlin - Kiel
F Black Sea Convoys A Ankara - Sevastopol
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F Gulf of Bothnia - Baltic Sea
A Moscow - St Petersburg
A Prussia - Berlin
F St Petersburg(sc) - Gulf of Bothnia
A Warsaw - Silesia
SPRING 1907 MOVES:
England:
A Denmark - Kiel (*Bounce*)
F Kiel - Baltic Sea (*Bounce*)
F North Sea - Edinburgh (*Bounce*)
F Norwegian Sea Supports F North Sea - Edinburgh
A Sweden - Finland
France:
A Belgium - Ruhr
F Clyde Supports F Yorkshire - Edinburgh
F English Channel - London
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Marseilles - Piedmont
A Holland Supports A Belgium - Ruhr
A Marseilles - Piedmont (*Fails*)
A North Africa - Tunis (*Bounce*)
A Paris - Burgundy (*Bounce*)
F Yorkshire - Edinburgh (*Bounce*)
Italy:
F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
A Bohemia - Munich (*Fails*)
A Budapest - Vienna
F Ionian Sea - Tunis (*Bounce*)
A Munich - Burgundy (*Bounce*)
A Piedmont Hold
A Ruhr Supports A Munich - Burgundy (*Disbanded*)
A Serbia Hold
F Tunis - Western Mediterranean
A Tuscany Supports A Piedmont
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Tunis - Western Mediterranean
Russia:
A Ankara - Sevastopol
A Berlin - Kiel (*Bounce*)
F Black Sea Convoys A Ankara - Sevastopol
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F Gulf of Bothnia - Baltic Sea (*Bounce*)
A Moscow - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
A Prussia - Berlin (*Fails*)
F St Petersburg(sc) - Gulf of Bothnia (*Fails*)
A Warsaw - Silesia
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SCHEDULE
Retreats
No retreats
Adjustments:
No adjustments
Friday july 30th, 20:00 GMT: deadline for fall 1907 orders.
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SPRING 1907 MOVES:
England:
A Denmark - Kiel (*Bounce*)
F Kiel - Baltic Sea (*Bounce*)
F North Sea - Edinburgh (*Bounce*)
F Norwegian Sea Supports F North Sea - Edinburgh
A Sweden - Finland
France:
A Belgium - Ruhr
F Clyde Supports F Yorkshire - Edinburgh
F English Channel - London
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Marseilles - Piedmont
A Holland Supports A Belgium - Ruhr
A Marseilles - Piedmont (*Fails*)
A North Africa - Tunis (*Bounce*)
A Paris - Burgundy (*Bounce*)
F Yorkshire - Edinburgh (*Bounce*)
Italy:
F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
A Bohemia - Munich (*Fails*)
A Budapest - Vienna
F Ionian Sea - Tunis (*Bounce*)
A Munich - Burgundy (*Bounce*)
A Piedmont Hold
A Ruhr Supports A Munich - Burgundy (*Disbanded*)
A Serbia Hold
F Tunis - Western Mediterranean
A Tuscany Supports A Piedmont
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Tunis - Western Mediterranean
Russia:
A Ankara - Sevastopol
A Berlin - Kiel (*Bounce*)
F Black Sea Convoys A Ankara - Sevastopol
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F Gulf of Bothnia - Baltic Sea (*Bounce*)
A Moscow - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
A Prussia - Berlin (*Fails*)
F St Petersburg(sc) - Gulf of Bothnia (*Fails*)
A Warsaw - Silesia
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SCHEDULE
Retreats
No retreats
Adjustments:
No adjustments
Friday july 30th, 20:00 GMT: deadline for fall 1907 orders.
barbu1977
30-07-2004, 16:11
Hi all fellow Allies and Enemies. I'll be going on vacation this monday up until friday august 13th and it is not the kind of vacation where you find an internet café.
I've submited my moves for this turn. If results are in early on moday, I might be able to submit moves for next week, but I doubt i'll make deadline for the 13th. Maybe this deadline could be moved for monday the 16th.
I've also seen on the diplo 1 thread that Col is away. I don't know how we want to do this?
Ok, Barbu. We have to hold the game until you and Col are back.
We wait and follow game #1 as far as the next moves concern.
What about the turns from Friday? Aren't we going to resolve that now or has someone not sent orders yet?
Socrates
01-08-2004, 18:16
2 players on 4 sent them. ERIKK said we'll wait for next Friday, because col was on holiday. Of course you can resend orders after some more chatting.
Agreed, anarres you can keep or change them as you want to.
Please note: the deadline for fall 1907 orders is Friday august 6th 20:00 GMT.
I checked my PM's and I did send the orders last week, but by mistake I called it spring 07 orders. Does this matter?
Socrates
07-08-2004, 15:38
Fall 1907 movement orders :
England :
A Denmark Supports F Kiel
A Finland - Sweden
F Kiel Hold
F North Sea - Edinburgh
F Norwegian Sea Supports F North Sea - Edinburgh
France :
F Clyde Supports F Yorkshire - Edinburgh
F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc)
A Holland - Kiel
F London - North Sea
A Marseilles Hold
A North Africa - Tunis
A Paris - Burgundy
A Ruhr - Belgium
F Yorkshire - Edinburgh
Italy :
F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea
A Bohemia - Munich
F Ionian Sea - Tunis
A Munich - Burgundy
A Piedmont Hold
A Serbia - Budapest
A Tuscany Supports A Piedmont
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Gulf of Lyon
A Vienna - Tyrolia
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea - Gulf of Lyon
Russia :
A Berlin Hold
F Black Sea - Constantinople
A Bulgaria - Rumania
F Gulf of Bothnia - Baltic Sea
A Moscow Supports F St Petersburg(sc)
A Prussia - Livonia
A Sevastopol - Ukraine
A Silesia Supports A Berlin - Silesia
F St Petersburg(sc) Hold
FALL 1907 MOVES:
England:
A Denmark Supports F Kiel
A Finland - Sweden
F Kiel Hold
F North Sea - Edinburgh (*Bounce*)
F Norwegian Sea Supports F North Sea - Edinburgh
France:
F Clyde Supports F Yorkshire - Edinburgh
F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc)
A Holland - Kiel (*Fails*)
F London - North Sea (*Fails*)
A Marseilles Hold
A North Africa - Tunis (*Bounce*)
A Paris - Burgundy (*Bounce*)
A Ruhr - Belgium
F Yorkshire - Edinburgh (*Bounce*)
Italy:
F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
A Bohemia - Munich (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea - Tunis (*Bounce*)
A Munich - Burgundy (*Bounce*)
A Piedmont Hold
A Serbia - Budapest
A Tuscany Supports A Piedmont
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Gulf of Lyon
A Vienna - Tyrolia
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea - Gulf of Lyon
Russia:
A Berlin Hold
F Black Sea - Constantinople
A Bulgaria - Rumania
F Gulf of Bothnia - Baltic Sea
A Moscow Supports F St Petersburg(sc)
A Prussia - Livonia
A Sevastopol - Ukraine
A Silesia Supports A Berlin - Silesia (*Fails*)
F St Petersburg(sc) Hold
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Retreats
There are NO retreats
Adjustments:
Austria 0
England 0
France 0
Germany 0
Italy +1
Russia 0
Turkey 0
Monday august 9th, 12:00 GMT: deadline for adjustment orders
Since I am the only one: I want a fleet in NAP.
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