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Matrix
24-11-2003, 14:53
Who'd like to play a PBEM on Rise of Rome? :) Choices are:

Rome, Carthago, Macedon (=Greece), Persia.

I prefer not to play as Persia as I've already done that once as beta tester. But I can tell from that game that this Conquest is extremely fun! ;)

I don't have Conquests myself, but might get it on december 6th (Sinterklaas). If not, I'll buy it the day after. [rolleyes] The beta version still works, but I reckon it might not work well with a complete version. [rolleyes] So we'd better wait.

Shabbaman
24-11-2003, 15:02
I'll take that in consideration. I don't know exactly how much time I'll have on hand. BTW, from what I've seen (Anarres' screenshots) there's a corruption bug in that scenario. I don't know exactly what, but maybe it'd be a good idea to wait for a patch.

anarres
24-11-2003, 15:15
I will play, and I don't mind being someone shit (Carthage?). I know Rome is massively favoured in this scenario, and I imagine Macedon is also quite strong.

Matrix
24-11-2003, 16:58
It was my impression that Rome and Persia were most powerful, but not Macedon. Persia has an untouchable backland (because of no 'X-wrapping') but Macedon is caught between Persia and Rome. Rome starts very small though; that's their biggest disadvantage.

Edit: waiting for the first patch might be a good idea, Shabbaman!

Black_Waltz
26-11-2003, 02:16
I'll be up for it. If my computer is fixed in time. I do agree however that it may be wise to wait for the first patch. What's an expansion without the obligatory patch 1 month after to fix the bugs. :-p

Anyway, I would say that Carthage and Rome are probably the two most powerful, although Carthage is somewhat squashed in the corner. Anyway, I will take Carthage if all possible.

Matrix
26-11-2003, 17:23
Cool! ;)

(I thought Carthage sucked. [rolleyes])

Black_Waltz
26-11-2003, 22:00
quote:Originally posted by Matrix

Cool! ;)

(I thought Carthage sucked. [rolleyes])


Check out Benderino's post on CFF in Conquests section. It's rather intresting as to what could be to come.

Oh. And my computer is now fixed. :)

Pastorius
26-11-2003, 22:32
PBEM or Internet MP?
OR perhaps both? as I reckon a few people would want to play against eachother here @CDZ

EDIT: note to self - learn to read

Black_Waltz
27-11-2003, 07:42
Well as it says 'PBEM' I'm guessing a 'PBEM'.

If it turns to multiplayer then unfortunatly I can't play.

Matrix
27-11-2003, 15:12
PBEM. Turns take far too long in this scenario for turn based, but that makes it perfect for PBEM. ;)

Matrix
27-11-2003, 15:14
Hey, are we complete now?

Anarres, Black_Waltz, Paalikles and me?

Then who'd wanna be who? I prefer Carthage or Rome. :)

Black_Waltz
27-11-2003, 15:23
Cartahge for me. Just had a sneaky play with them and I must say I like them a lot. :) If anyone else really wants them though I don't mind going Rome. :-p

Matrix
27-11-2003, 16:01
No, because I already claimed Carthage and Rome too, so either you are Carthage and I Rome, or the other way around. [:p] And since you prefer Carthage then you will be Carthage and I will be Rome. ;)

Shabbaman
27-11-2003, 16:26
quote:Originally posted by Black_Waltz

Cartahge for me. Just had a sneaky play with them and I must say I like them a lot. :) If anyone else really wants them though I don't mind going Rome. :-p


You're planning to cross the alps with your elephants?

anarres
27-11-2003, 17:37
I'll take whatever is left.

Black_Waltz
27-11-2003, 21:19
quote:Originally posted by Shabbaman

quote:Originally posted by Black_Waltz

Cartahge for me. Just had a sneaky play with them and I must say I like them a lot. :) If anyone else really wants them though I don't mind going Rome. :-p


You're planning to cross the alps with your elephants?


Either that or ship my huge, hulking Elephants onto a galley somehow. :-p

Well. It looks as if we are enemies my good Matrix! :-p

Pastorius
27-11-2003, 23:10
Err - I dont have time for this at current - perhaps later on ;)
there will always be time to [hammer] Paalikles' forces...

Black_Waltz
27-11-2003, 23:45
Ok. So we still have one slot open. Who wants Macedon or Persia?

digger760
28-11-2003, 08:36
me! me!

Black_Waltz
28-11-2003, 10:37
*roflmao* Well then which Civ! :-p Anarres will take whichever is left.

digger760
28-11-2003, 11:06
Dunno.....without having played the scenario yet!

Persia i suppose (I am guessing i wont be surrounded)

(it was that flamin link to Beridino's thread that drew my in)

Should be fun.

Black_Waltz
28-11-2003, 11:56
*roflmao* Seems a lot of fun doesn't it! Fear my War Elephants of Doom!

...

*coughs*

Ack well. 7th you say Matrix?

Matrix
01-12-2003, 18:44
Ok, so it's:
Matrix: Rome
Black_Waltz: Carthage
Anarres: Macedon
Digger760: Persia

Whenever I have Conquests I'll start the game. Probably the 7th indeed. ;)

Black_Waltz
02-12-2003, 11:55
Sounds good. *starts growing a beard to 'get into character'*.

Matrix
02-12-2003, 13:23
I'll comb my hair forward. [rolleyes]

anarres
02-12-2003, 13:27
I'll get ready to be slaughtered then! :)

digger760
02-12-2003, 13:46
digger looks around ...confused...ignorant of history..panicks cos he does know what to do.

Black_Waltz
03-12-2003, 00:34
... You're Carthage's bitch any you do everything I say...?

*coughs* It's worth a try! :-p

blackwizzard
03-12-2003, 15:39
sorry for the interruption . there are two patches available at atari.de or for other countries atari.com . actual version is 1.02

anarres
03-12-2003, 15:48
That patch is cosmetic, no gameplay fixes at all (apart from a lux display fix, but again that is cosmetic). [sad]

Black_Waltz
03-12-2003, 22:13
Yeppers. No point in getting a patch which does diddly squat to gameplay.

Matrix
04-12-2003, 19:28
Well, he may do that. It doesn't chance a thing for us. [rolleyes]

Black_Waltz
07-12-2003, 09:29
*crosses fingers*

*coughs*

Not that I'm desperate for another PBEM or anything... ;)

anarres
07-12-2003, 15:11
I say we start this - the patch release has been 'guesstimated' at mid Jan, and even if it come out on time that is too long.

Black_Waltz
07-12-2003, 15:51
Conquests aren't as affected by the corruption bug. Maybe we should say a ban on GPT deals though?

Oh. And I also suggest that there be no 'blocking' of islands with units. As there is no unit with amphibious attack in this scenario it would seem a bit cheap.

anarres
07-12-2003, 16:06
I'm not 100% sure about a ban on GPT payments - maybe it will work because the other AI in this game have very limited resources and tech trees, so not much would be offered anyway.

Black_Waltz
07-12-2003, 16:18
Hmmm... I'm not sure. I had noticed that the Celts seemed to have a rather large stockpile of monies when I was playing this. Quite nice getting 100+ per looting a city. But I'll go with the majority decison.

digger760
08-12-2003, 10:10
i havn't had the chance to play the sceanrio yet...infact i've played so little of conquests i hav'nt even seen this so called gpt bug that people speak of

digger760
09-12-2003, 13:24
So have you got conquests yet Matrix. If so then we must be ready to rock and/or roll. [band]

Matrix
09-12-2003, 17:53
Still waiting... http://www.straland.com/images/smilies/suicide.gif

Black_Waltz
09-12-2003, 22:07
Ack! I'm SOOOO itching to play this!

anarres
10-12-2003, 10:22
Matrix, do you need someone to send you something in the post while you're waiting for your copy? ;)

Black_Waltz
10-12-2003, 23:12
New Patch due next week. I suggest waiting for that?

Oh. And do we have agreement on not using troops to blockade islands?

Matrix
10-12-2003, 23:38
Thanks anarres, but it's probably on it's way right now. ;)

And yes, Black_Waltz, seems perfectly logical to me. :)

Matrix
24-12-2003, 15:15
I don't know how much longer I have to wait till I get Conquests, but I'll play the game with my brother's cd. [rolleyes]

Black_Waltz
25-12-2003, 00:25
Well I'm all patched up so whenever is fine for me.

anarres
27-12-2003, 18:56
I am back from Christmas at my parents - are we all ready to play now?

Edit: I have the save from Matrix - I will play and send (it will take a while!)

I have also created an Open Thread (http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1277), lets post there from now on...

anarres
27-12-2003, 23:14
Hmm. Accelerated Produciton is on. :(

Matrix, this will ruin the game for me. Please can we play without Accelerated Prodcution?

Black_Waltz
28-12-2003, 22:52
Yes. I agree. No accelerated production. I really dislike playing with that.

Matrix
31-12-2003, 02:42
Yes, we can. The reason I left it was because it's on by default and I can't change it, except when I move the single player Conquest to the multiplayer directory. Will do so when I'm back home.

And another thing: I still don't have Conquests (I think) so can't use the patch. Will it work when you play with patch and I without?

anarres
31-12-2003, 13:28
[:o]

I'd rather not do that Martix. For a start you will suffer crippling RCP corruption for all equidistant cities...

Matrix
02-01-2004, 21:08
Rats. But I don't know how much longer I have to wait... [sad]

Matrix
06-01-2004, 13:30
I have it! [yeah] And I've installed the beta patch (1.12) and sent the first turn, without AP, to anarres. ;)

I've named the savegame RoR001a.sav, with the intention that anarres can send RoR001b.sav, digger760 RoR001c.sav, Black_Waltz RoR001d.sav and than I'll send RoR002a.sav. (Just like Skyfish, Gos and I did with our 3 player game.) Is that ok? :)

digger760
06-01-2004, 13:47
sounds good.

anarres
06-01-2004, 14:21
Cool! I will play tonight when I get home...

anarres
06-01-2004, 20:45
I get an error when loading ("can't find TECH_Council in pediaicons.txt"). IIRC this has something to do with how you set the game up (maybe the Game Type option needs to be 'Scenario'?)

Skyfish
06-01-2004, 21:04
I am afraid that if Matrix could open it, play, save then send, its a problems with your PediaIcons file anarres [sad]
But am not sure...

Matrix
07-01-2004, 12:41
To all players: please copy the directory "/Civilization III/Conquests/Conquests/Rise of Rome" to the directory "/Civilization III/Conquests/Scenarios/". Then it works.

digger760
07-01-2004, 12:46
what about versions....I think the 1.13 version looks pretty good. Although i havn't upgraded yet (still using 1.12).

anarres
07-01-2004, 13:39
Please can we use 1.13, the FP chages are well are worth it, and I'd rather not run multiple patches if I can help it...

digger760
07-01-2004, 16:59
The 1.13 and 1.14 patch were not really released to the world, they seem to be sneaking out via the incorrect channels. 1.13 might be the better patch, but now there is a 1.14?? who nows when 1.15 will comes out. I dont want to be patching every 5 mins. Since 1.12 is the world recognised C3C patch at the moment i think we should stick with that. We should only uses patches that have been properly released. ie listed in the CFC patches page

anarres
07-01-2004, 21:16
Well, the ones listed are the ones TF decides to put there. If you want to take the 'official' line you shouldn't be using 1.12 becuase that's a beta patch and isn't officially released by Firaxis. The only "real" patch is due in June, and all the patches (including 1.12) are unofficial beta patches.

Matrix
08-01-2004, 01:58
1.07: latest official complete patch
1.12: latest official beta patch
1.14: latest unofficial beta patch

If you don't want to have to patch often we should wait until the next official patch. I have absolutely no idea how long that's going to take. But I agree with anarres that the changes are really big, and important.

Edit (whisper): Next official patch by the end of february.
[cry]

digger760
08-01-2004, 10:34
Well what is the consensus on the patch we should use. Since this is my only C3C PBEM i am flexible.

Matrix is on 1.12 as far as i know,
annares is on 1.13 or 1.14,
BW ?
Me 1.12.

Matrix
08-01-2004, 17:47
I vote on 1.13. (My current status.)

(I just noticed 1.14 has only been mentioned, but not released.)

digger760
09-01-2004, 09:05
ok, i'm updating now. So were is the sav? i hav'nt seen turn 1 yet.

anarres
09-01-2004, 12:22
Sorry, I have it. I will use this 'workaround' to make it load.

anarres
09-01-2004, 12:23
btw, do I have to downgrade to 1.13 now?

digger760
09-01-2004, 13:23
i think with 1.14 you have the advantage of having 2 cores, while us 1.13er's have 1 core and 1 good city elsewhere.

I did'nt think 1.14 was actually made availible, just talked about. I thought you liked 1.13 anyway.

It looks like there could be quite a few beta patches to come, and if so, this could be quite disruptive to this game. I dont want to "beta test" i just want to play on the most popular version (which is 1.12 or 1.13). Wereas i get the feeling annares you would like to beta-test a bit (ie run the 1.14 or 1.15 if they are availible)..correct me if i'm wrong.

So how are we going to play this game with the potential of relatively unknown beta patches popping up all the time?

anarres
09-01-2004, 14:47
I can run 2 instances. You are right also digger in that 1.14 isn't even out yet, I was getting confused between 1.12 and 1.13. [crazyeye]

Lets agree to play this on 1.13, unless a new beta patch comes out that we all want to play on. 1.13 is definitely stable enough, so I am happy with that.

Matrix
10-01-2004, 01:36
Agreed. :) Game on!

Since Black_Waltz hasn't responded, I'll send a PM/IM...

Matrix
12-01-2004, 10:18
Where's the game?

digger760
12-01-2004, 10:39
I have it...i dont play on weekends...will play and send on in the next couple of hours

Black_Waltz
13-01-2004, 00:12
I'm here. Computer problems. I've finally given up and ordered a new PC but it may take awhile to arrive.

Question about playing on 1.13. Does this mean that I should create a backup of 1.13 when I upgrade to the next patch? I'm a bit unfamilar with the procedure of playing with diffrent patches.

Oh. And Digger. Please make sure the others know about my predicement. I hope I'm not holding up the save too much.

Matrix
16-01-2004, 21:55
Let's just all upgrade to 1.15 now and use whatever patch is newest. [rolleyes] I haven't seen a savegame in return and would like to get this game going.

Anarres and I are on 1.15 already (too).

Black_Waltz
21-01-2004, 14:08
Still waiting for new PC. I'm guessing end of this week sometime. Sorry for the hold up.

Matrix
22-01-2004, 14:58
Ok, thanks for the update.

anarres
22-01-2004, 15:02
Digger - what is your interest in this game? Do you still want to play or should we find a replacement?

digger760
22-01-2004, 15:09
Try and find a replacement.

digger760
04-02-2004, 18:31
*BUMP*

So is anybody going to replace me?

Although i played the first turn, as far as i know Black Wlatz who follows me has'nt played his first turn. So who ever wants to take over could play my first turn again.

digger760

anarres
04-02-2004, 18:58
If digger is replaced I need to replay my turn. ;)

Black_Waltz
10-02-2004, 02:03
I return. So sorry for the delay. This game seems doomed from the outset. But now I have my machine and soon to install Civ III and Conquests. Is the game still on?

Matrix
14-02-2004, 15:17
As far as I'm concerned it is.

anarres
14-02-2004, 18:11
Yes, but lets find a replacement for Digger since he'd rather not play.

Black_Waltz
16-02-2004, 22:30
So how about advertising for new players?

Matrix
17-02-2004, 10:45
It would help if the title says "Extra player wanted" instead of "game started". http://www.straland.com/images/smilies/lipsrsealed.gif

digger760
17-02-2004, 10:48
As author/owner of the thread, you should be able to change it Matrix.

Matrix
17-02-2004, 13:05
That's true. http://www.straland.com/images/smilies/idea.gif

Black_Waltz
18-02-2004, 09:59
So we basically need somebody who wishes to be Persia and then we're off. :)